I'm sure Robert Rodriguez had the best of intentions when he gave Sin City creator Frank Miller a co-director title on the Sin City movie. Yet he did the movie-going public a terrible disservice, which allowed miller to make his highly anticipated Spirit
Miller will write and direct his own big-screen take on the comic serial; while the creator has only begun to sketch ideas, it's expected to be a darker take, with many of Miller's signature visual elements and themes, such as corruption and redemption. It's likely to be a priority project for Miller, though he has been mulling a "Sin City" sequel.Well, fuckbuckets. So what do you think--all black and white, with the only colors being the laser blasts? Twiki played by Jaime King? I'm trying to think of something funny, but I'm pretty this is all shit Miller is already planning for the film.
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Sin City was Frank Miller's only contribution to comics. Everything other one of his graphic novels was a dark take on the original. After the seeing Robocop 2 and 300 I've become so fucking sick of Frank Miller I can't stand to hear his name. Just like John Scalzi Frank Miller produces ultra violent, sexist, dystopian worlds and sometimes he gets so bad people actually notice his stuff is complete crap.
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"Jimmy said: wow a lot of hate for Frank Miller..wtf? Lets face it he pretty much is responsible for bringing comics out of the kiddie ghetto as well as influencing movies enough to have non sucky movies based on comics. I think we can indulge him a bit in the directors realm and give him a pass... Plus the movie has not come out yet!!!" OK..lets get this straight. No he was not responisble for "bringing comics out of the kiddie ghetto" as you put it. Not even close. And I woudl have been ok with the dark knight and batman begins never being made. They are way toooooooo serious...I mean come on..it's a guy in a cape and cowl with spiked ears for crying out loud. It can;t be that serious, if it is it all falls apart..because that could NEVER happen in any sort of real world scenario, the guy would be laughed out of the alley. That happened wayyyyy before his time. what he IS responsible for however is the dumbing down of comic books, making the man super macho, tough guy, bets at what he does crap, and women weak pathetic creatures lucky to have love. The comic book industry has FINALLY after all these years started to get away from the Frank Miller tough guy we all grew to hate so much. He may have single handedly ruined comic books.
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FACT: Erin Gray was the only good thing about Buck Rodgers. I don't see how it's possible to make something worse than the TV show.
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The Spirit is like the Velvet Undeground of superhero comics... everyone in the biz studied it, no-one else has ever heard of it. Easily the best detective strip of all time, the classic 40's stories are never exposed to the mass market because the Spirit's sidekick was a little black guy with a mouth like a donut called Ebony. Although written as a brave and stalwart companion who saved the Spirit's bacon pretty much every time out, he is today a jaw-dropping racial stereotype. Despite this, Eisner remains pretty much the greatest all-round cartoonist of all time, and the work should be considered essential by comic buffs. How Miller got these weird, stilted fight scenes out of Eisner's brilliant, hilarious, palpable violence is beyond me. Decided to completely lose the classic source material, I guess.
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Ha, wow. No idea who the Spirit is, huh? Well, Arcane, there used to be this guy called Will Eisner. There were a couple of people who though his work should be the basis for comparison by which all other comic books of merit should be judged. Those guys named some award after him. But you're right ... nobody much cares about him anymore.
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Man. Alan Moore did NOTHING to make comics more adult. Nope. Nothing. Also, that R. Crumb guy. That was mostly kids stuff right?
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I had no idea who the Spirit was before this movie started getting produced and I still don't. Is this why we don't need a Spirit movie, a lack of popularity or relevance in modern society? Is Miller ruining a memory most people don't even have?
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For the record, The Spirit comics aren't really like "Frank Miller" comics. They are better. Will Eisner was and always will be one of the absolute best cartoonist to ever exist. Miller isn't even in the top ten. I really wish they wouldn't have made a Spirit movie. Not just Miller, anyone.
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HAHAHAHA! You guys are throwing tantrums because Buck Rogers won't be like your unbelievably crappy third reimagining from the 80's? Yeah, that's right, it had already been remade TWICE. Has anyone actually read the original comic strips or seen the Buster Crabbe serials? THAT is Buck Rogers. No fuckin' Twiki, no crappy hair cuts, no Lost in Space-rip offs. Guys, that show you hold so dear? It is probably the WORST sci fi show ever, so give Miller a break and see what he'll do with this, because his style is actually well suited for bringing Buck back the way he's supposed to be. Or would you rather want another feisty teen "reimagining" like Sci Fi's Flash Gordon? Because that IS the alternative. Oh, and the character Buck Rogers? Total misogynist, so you shouldn't worry about that either.
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That's enough Frank.
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The sad thing is Frank Miller has devolved into a parody of himself. Dark Knight Returns: genius. All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder: not so much.
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please, frank miller's his own cheap knock-off. The days of anything fresh and/or inspired coming from that douchebag (wasn't he playing up the aspects of 300 as pro we gotta kill them savage iraqis etc) are long since past.
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"Jimmy said: wow a lot of hate for Frank Miller..wtf? Lets face it he pretty much is responsible for bringing comics out of the kiddie ghetto" Yeah. Thanks largely to Frank Miller and others like him, comics have no more sense of wonder and are no longer fun to read.
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Please keep in mind that Buck Rogers has been around far longer than the Gil Gerard TV show (which, in hindsight, wasn't all that great to begin with). It was originally a novel, comic strip, movie serial, and black and white tv show decades before anybody ever heard the mantra "bidi-bidi-bidi." Miller has a vast plethora of Buck Rogers templates to pick from, some of which fit right into his general creative view. All we know about the film so far is that there will be a Buck Rogers film done by Frank Miller. Don't try to tear down a film that has yet to do anything to deserve it. And for the record, yeah, I'm a big fan of the Sin City stuff :) Doc
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I dunno it may be perfect, 70% of Buck Rodgers is saucy banter and fist fights and Frank Miller can do both. But redemption and corruption? Please in the words of Princess Ardala, Buck is the perfect genetic specimin. Man i feel disgusting for knowing that.
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<i>Col. Deering is going back into the flight attendant skirt and back to being a DID.</i> <the_brain>YES!!!!</the_brain> ;)
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Yeah, I'm starting to wonder why all the hate for Miller myself. Granted, the Spirit looks kinda cheesy but I think it's just keeping with the spirit (pun fully intended) of the comic. Even though I've never read a Spirit comic to be honest so I'm not exactly sure. But isn't it supposed to be pulpy/noir fiction where the dames are dames and the guys are super-macho tough guys? The Spirit may not be that great but hey, at least it has Scar-jo in it as eye candy. There are worse comic book to movie adaptations to bitch about. I'm looking at you: any of the Fantastic Four/Punisher movies. The guy wrote the Dark Knight returns for Chrissakes! If it weren't for him, I highly doubt that Batman Begins and the Dark Knight would have ever been made. Cut him some slack. Worst case scenario: Twiggy gets a makeover and ends up like Metropolis's female robot Maria. Only with bigger boobs.
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wow a lot of hate for Frank Miller..wtf? Lets face it he pretty much is responsible for bringing comics out of the kiddie ghetto as well as influencing movies enough to have non sucky movies based on comics. I think we can indulge him a bit in the directors realm and give him a pass... Plus the movie has not come out yet!!!
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No. Col. Deering is going back into the flight attendant skirt and back to being a DID. Sigh.
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Buck Rogers was always a second rate sci fi series so it's not like Frank Miller is going to direct Star Trek or anything. I'm pretty sure I only watched it as a kid because it had bright colors and a robot.
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At least this will keep Frank Miller from destroying a property anyone actually gives a damn about. Tim Burton does enough by himself when it comes to destroying great franchises with his "reimagining" opuses. The most Frank Miller can do is destroy a character that's best remembered for hanging out with a midget robot with a penis shaped head.
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<i>They forgot "and the misogynist virgin/whore dichotomy."</i> One could no doubt make such a case, but how would you, specifically?
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The dispute that resulted from awarding Frank Miller a directing credit on Sin City also buried any chance that Rodriguez would direct a John Carter of Mars movie.
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But really, was there very much to screw up to begin with?
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Awkward staging, worse-than-wooden acting, weirdly, amazingly fake movements/action--honestly, am I the only one that thinks of "A Trip To The Moon" when I see clips from "The Spirit"? For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygGkBffo66k Seriously. Miller is dragging us a hundred and seven years backwards. Which is a tad too far for Buck Rogers.
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Darker you say? What a surprising choice.
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Gods, I am so tired of Frank Miller movies. Guys are super macho, girls are feisty whorriors. WE GET IT, FRANK!
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"...with many of Miller's signature visual elements and themes, such as corruption and redemption..." They forgot "and the misogynist virgin/whore dichotomy." Maybe they ran out of wordspace. :P He has some of the most blatantly fucked-up views of women I've seen in cinema since Soylent Green and its "furniture" girls. Bleh.
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