And when I say "kinda good," I mean "holy shit." I've never been a big Trek fan, but watching this latest trailer -- especially the space battle at the end, where wreckage is flying everywhere -- has made me crazy excited to see the film, something the other trailers and news bits haven't quite been able to achieve, although theyv'e all been good.
However, there's a bit of weirdness I've discovered that might shipwreck this whole, er, enterprise. I feel like they're spoilers, although the info is all technically available on the Star Trek IMDB page. hit the jump for these weird and frankly disturbing discoveries.
I saw something in the credits which confused me, so I checked the IMDB page. Did you guys know Winona Ryder is in the movie? Seriously, she's playing Amanda Grayson, who you might know better SPOCK'S FREAKIN' MOM. I'm not as disturbed by the cameo as much as I am by the fact that I somehow didn't know this until this morning. Did you guys know?
Unfortunately, that's not all. While perusing the IMDB page, I also noticed the role of Starfleet Academy President is being played by one Tyer Perry.

Yes, that Tyler Perry.
Why? I assume Perry's a big Trek fan and asked for a cameo, but I do not approve. We're already going to have god knows how many Trek cameos and nods and Easter eggs in the flick. Adding a bunch of celebrity cameos on top of that will just be distracting, in my august opinion (although I might be biased because Id rather die than sit through a Madea movie). And for all I know, Perry plays the Starfleet Academy President as Madea -- it's not like IMDB specifies whether he's in a transvestite fat suit or not.
This is, however, at least one thing I discovered which might possibly mitigate Perry's involvement, and that's the fact that Diora Baird is in the film. Now, Diora Baird looks like this.

And she'll be playing this:

The Orion Slave Girl. It might not make up for Tyler Perry, but if it doesn't, I don't know what will.
Comments
Trekker said:
Despite my fandom for the original series, I'm looking forward to the reimagined version. It look pretty cool but...
...maybe it's just the twisted way my brain works or an over eager imagination, but does anyone else wonder if they're seeing what _I_ think I'm seeing at 1:45? This IS a Green Band trailer right?
Posted 03/06/2009 at 06:28:33 AM
varrior said:
Winona Ryder as Spock's mother really isn't that big of a deal. Jennifer Morrison on the other hand plays KIRK'S mother. Yes. Dr. Cameron from House. You can even see her in the trailer like 25 seconds in.
Although her as an Orion girl... *droooooools*
Posted 03/06/2009 at 06:32:15 AM
gnomemaster said:
Personally, the Tyler Perry news is old news. You know Seth MacFarlane was on an episode of Enterprise. Why? Probably because he's a crazy nerd, is worth a zillion dollars and helped "produce" the episode. Same goes for Tyler Perry. His movies suck, but he keeps churning out a million of them. So he's probably worth a lot.
Jennifer Morrison as Kirk's mom, meh. Not a big deal to me. She probably gets ONE scene, and that's her all sweaty when she gives birth to James Tiberius Kirk. Who then, at the age of 3 minutes, loses his virginity to his Vulcan nurse. Then the cut the Umbilical cord.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 07:09:33 AM
Bill Binder said:
Tyler Perry has done a few interviews on the subject. He's not a big Star Trek fan, and the Trek crew aren't really big Perry fans. He just was appropriate for the (very minor) role. I have no problem with hiring a competent actor to play a minor role.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 07:21:28 AM
anti said:
[i]"but does anyone else wonder if they're seeing what _I_ think I'm seeing at 1:45?"[/i]
...and that statement right there m why ST will never, ever, ever....ever be considered cool. In a nutshell.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 07:21:39 AM
varrior said:
You're idiots. It's not a gay scene. The chick under him is wearing a bra.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 07:44:28 AM
MLKshake said:
recently watched all the trek flicks...
this doesn't look like a trek flick....
JJ Abrams is kind of a hack and he basically alienated his primary audience by being like i dont even be knowing bout the trek- the inside of the ship looks wack as fuck aka white on white on white grrrreattt detail boss hog haven't seen that done poorly in tons of other space movies nopppe!!!!
i have like 50mill problems w/ this biz but few of them stack up higher than Bana's head tatts... how dumb does that look....
I really don't know how you guys are so positive about dick cheese......
Posted 03/06/2009 at 07:53:12 AM
Drakonnen said:
F'ing brilliant trailer. Best one yet. I'm really, really excited for this movie.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 07:57:21 AM
Nick Marino said:
trailer looks lame!!! what makes classic Trek so cool isn't FX and big space opera - it's the fact that an interesting group of characters continually encounter different forms of civilization that test their ingrained morals and previously explored internal limits. when the show says "where no man has gone before," it's just as much a philosophical proclamation as a physical one. i mean, how many overdone sci-fi movies out there have done space opera? a ton. and at the end of the day, spectacle may be mildly interesting, but it's personal conflicts that actually make movies meaningful. i can't judge this movie based on that because i have no idea what the conflicts and/or themes will be. but the trailer is just pushing lots of CG and boring plot elements in my face: "kirk, you gotta do what your daddy did!" LAME! give me some real meat so i can make an informed decision about this film.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 08:27:42 AM
Jxn said:
I don't mind about Tyler Perry. What's scaring me is the fact that the guys who wrote "Transformers" wrote this movie too.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 08:58:37 AM
Jxn said:
That and it's starting to look a lot like Star Trek - The Cliche.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 09:03:06 AM
Drakonnen said:
Wow, they actually get some good writers and producers, put a lot of effort into making Star Trek look new and actually exciting, more like a big screen blockbuster than another episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation that just happens to be in the movies, and now a bunch of fellow nerds are whining about it?
Just because it has action in it, doesn't mean the characters and the personal interactions aren't there. I've read a lot about the Kirk and Spock interactions, and it all sounds like genuine Trek but more exciting.
Plus I like the story line idea about what makes someone who they are, and this time line's Kirk sorta going up against the legacy of the old timeline's Kirk, rather than simply disregarding the old time line or trying to shoe horn this in as apart of the same timeline.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 09:37:43 AM
Zach Oat said:
Ken Marino is right! Star Trek is about talking, and drinking tea, and Picard looking at his fish, and aliens having petty border disputes and the Enterprise not being able to get involved, or else the aliens might stop acting like whiny little bitches and develop a little faster as a society! Not all this "entertainment" bull!
This reminds me of the disaster that was Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, where there were all these boring ship battles, and not one border dispute to speak of. And certainly no tea. Lame!
Posted 03/06/2009 at 09:40:13 AM
Drakonnen said:
Nicely put, Zach.
The most common reaction I've seen to most of these new Star Trek trailers is: I've never really been a Star Trek fan, but that looks awesome!
Just look at the You Tube comments. Maybe the Trekkies are annoyed Star Trek might actually go more main stream, lol.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 09:51:32 AM
Froop said:
what is it at 1:45 that you people are talking about? the one big monster eating the other big monster??
Posted 03/06/2009 at 09:56:00 AM
Snoodle said:
Never was a fan of the series' but I am so all over this new film!
Posted 03/06/2009 at 10:08:05 AM
Snoodle said:
The score is beautiful also...anyone know who did it?
Posted 03/06/2009 at 10:25:49 AM
Anonymous said:
Its up in HD at the Star Trek movie website by the way.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 10:33:42 AM
varrior said:
I don't know what people are bitching about, every major successful ST film both critically and financially has been an action movie with some good acting behind it. Put it this way - the one good actor from the Heroes debacle is one of the leads in this film, and most of the cast as far as I know is good at what they do. Nobody really gives a flying fuck about canon details and if the bridge looks like the 60s POS. If it has the major elements of a good film, I'll watch it.
I agree with the guy who said it seems like Trekkies are afraid their baby is being stolen, when it was never their baby in the first place.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 10:48:11 AM
Photoboy said:
"Drakonnen said:
Wow, they actually get some good writers"
The morons who wrote Bayformers are good writers? I can't wait for Spock to break something and say "my bad" or for the Enterprise to have flames painted down the side or for Kirk to take a piss on Uhura. Actually, I would like to see that third one.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 10:52:15 AM
Kay said:
Alright. I'm tired of hearing all this "Only Non-Trek fans are excited for the movie" bullshit. I'M a Star Trek. I watched reruns of the original series with my dad, I own the original six movies and I've seen every episode of Next Generation and I am honest-to-God PSYCHED for this movie. Yea, it will be different from your average "Picard staring at his fish" storyline, but I have a lot of faith that Abrams isn't going to rape us on this one. As someone mentioned earlier, Zachary Quinto (arguably the only saving grace of Heroes) and a host of known, qualified actors are headlining this thing.
Yea yea, The Transformers' writers were involved. Wah boohoo. This is Star Trek guys. Star Trek. A big, beautiful, glossy Star Trek nerd heaven. Quit your bitching. If it sucks, you can complain then.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 11:12:47 AM
James said:
I've never seen Star Trek, but I'm going to see this one just for Jenniffer Morrison and Gabriel Gray
Posted 03/06/2009 at 11:33:27 AM
Drakonnen said:
Transformers was actually a good movie, hence one of the reason it is wildly successful and almost everyone I now who saw it, loved it.
Sure, pissing on the guy was over the top, but what is the big deal that they added flames on Optimus Prime? That is seriously what you're crying about? Did the blue flames rape your child hood? Did you hug yourself in the fetal position because Bumble Bee was a Camaro rather than a VW bug? lol.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 12:35:23 PM
cummins said:
I wish this Trek trailer was the one attached to Watchmen in the theater where I saw it. I got the same old one with the Robocop.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 12:51:40 PM
Snoodle said:
Popped back to say Michael Giacchino did the score if anyone cares.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 04:03:48 PM
Laini said:
I've not really followed this film at all and that's the first trailer I've seen but now I'm really psyched for it.
I won't be able to watch it out without imaging Spock turning evil and removing Kirk's brain but whatever :P
Posted 03/06/2009 at 04:36:41 PM
Legham said:
Starship Troopers already covered this reimagined ground. Abrams is a hack.
Posted 03/06/2009 at 06:26:26 PM
John Howard said:
OMGosh I cannot wait for Star Trek
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Posted 03/07/2009 at 05:24:03 AM
jitendarsinghrathod said:
nice movie i am wailting for the release of the movie
Posted 03/07/2009 at 05:41:51 AM
Anon7723737 said:
Soundtrack is a ripoff from the Dark Knight. Other than that, I'll watch it ... when I can rent the Blu-Ray.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 05:44:23 AM
JJTehHack said:
Yuck, looks like the transplanted cast of any crappy teen-to-20something flick with matching 90210 dialogue.
It's a reboot for the 6th grade mentality that dominates western society, in other words it will be all flash with zero substance that you might as well watch with the sound off because the script was written by some talentless producer's nephew characterized by talentless young idiots (AKA "actors") that you'd rather see beaten in an alley.
Hollywood needs the reboot, they can't make anything but infantile CGI fests and crappy formulaic romantic comedies anymore.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 05:51:07 AM
DeathVegetable said:
"I have a lot of faith that Abrams isn't going to rape us on this one."
Abrams is an animal who has raped before, you can't change him therefor your hope is unfounded. Sounds like battered wife syndrome.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 06:08:04 AM
monsigneur holy crap said:
the review was juvenile in it's critique. stop suckin the old trek dick. i actually agree that this looks good, and it's got sylar as spock. so far i like jj abrams creations, it's just the villain, for a blockbuster megaflick, uh they kinda coulda done better(?), dude looks like piccolo from dragonball z....
Posted 03/07/2009 at 06:12:07 AM
farquad said:
I'm crazy psyched to see this. Finally a Star Trak that normal people can see. Virginity and pocket protectors are no longer a mandatory requirement for people going to see a Trak movie.
Yo and Syler plays the pointy eared guy.
I doubt those of you complaining really want to watch some corny old Star Trak movie like the ones already made or the corny old tv show.
We're in 2009 guys. Its time to get with the times and watch how the new generation makes something for nerds and dorks into an awesome masterpiece that EVERYONE will be talking about.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 06:12:22 AM
@trekker said:
It's the adjuster on her bra strap, not a nipple.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 06:23:35 AM
bmulligan said:
"Why are you talkin' to me, man...?"
Yeah, that's awesome writing, there. Can't wait to see this script make Phantom Menace look like Shakespeare. And the over-the-top deliveries also seem to be of Lucas-worthy direction.
Taking popular mythical characters like Kirk and Spock, that have been carved in stone over the last 40 years in movie, TV, and novel form, is not artistry, it's heresy. Why, why, why did this need to be done? Money. It's the only reason.
I'd have been much happier, and more interested, if they created NEW characters from the Star Trek universe in the parallel time frame and told THEIR stories instead of "re-imagining" characters we all know and love. We love them because they are established and have "history", and are "alive" in the minds of true fans of the series. In fact, the characters are so established and real, that this type of project is like revisionist history, also known as a LIE.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 06:31:11 AM
TPInformer said:
I dont see how you can judge Tyler Perry being in the movie when you know jack squat about him, you said yourself you'd rather die than sit through a Madea movie (which in my book is ignorant to the point of being racist) so you don't know that "madea movies" can be serious as well as funny its not just TP in a fat suit acting a fool for 2 hours. You should watch one of his movies, really, with one of you "black friends" (if you have any) and open your mind, it might improve your opinions you post since all races can see them in the world it might be a good idea, or maybe this isn't your cup of tea...
Posted 03/07/2009 at 06:40:57 AM
Sam said:
I am so on this movie i dont care really i just want a new series out of it for real
The Trailers are making me Most Impatient for this film and the more they put out the more impatient i get. COME ON TIME KEEP MOVING PLEASE LOL
Cheeers and remember James Kirk is NOT John L Picard.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 07:22:56 AM
The Pig said:
Bmulligan, you're an idiot. You're taking one piece of obviously pre "kirk as we know him" dialogue and damning the entire movie. Get over yourself.
Also, the music is NOT a ripoff of Batman. You heard one note and it reminded you of that. Nevermind the vocals going on underneath it, or the progression of the song AFTER that note. I hate to tell you this, but there are only SO many notes in music that you can play around with and odds are you're going to hear ONE note somewhere else. Just because mud's the same color as chocolate milk doesn't mean it's chocolate milk. But God forbid I think a little deeper about something.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 08:40:53 AM
John E Reb said:
Wow. Impressive. Just a darn shame they had to call it Star Trek. Otherwise it might be a good movie. But sorry, this ain't Star Trek.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 08:49:07 AM
Anonymous said:
Dude, calm down, they are actors. You'll be fine if you just breath deeply a few times. I am sure your universe will not implode just because Ms Ryder is in teh movie.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 09:05:04 AM
OldSchool said:
Meh. Seems too derivative of Star Trek: New Voyages in some places, and 90210 in others... I'll stick to modern new Trek like ST:NV and ST:Odyssey.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 10:53:59 AM
World Headlines said:
Tyler Perry is so unfunny, I don't get why people like his movies where he always dresses up in drag.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 11:33:34 AM
Anonymous said:
It's like no one has any idea what the term "reboot" means.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 11:57:43 AM
Gee said:
It's not Star Trek. It's a reboot to bring in the new generation of Jonas Bros kids.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 12:45:41 PM
Kevin said:
Recently I've been booing at the screen at movies. The first time will get a chuckle. The second time will get a few positive responses. The third time will see you joined with a chorus of boos. Just wait until Tyler Perry shows up in a Star Trek movie while I'm there.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 01:06:04 PM
ooolon said:
K'plath p'tarch! Down under we haven't seen the movie yet. Have you all time-warped into the future for a sneak preview? I prefer to watch before I praise or pillory.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 01:13:06 PM
NickD said:
bmulligan: Yes, because popular mythical characters are always ruined if played by different actors. See MacBeth, Hamlet, even Doctor Who.
And anyone complaining that the acting's going to be bad with a bunch of kids should really go and watch the previous movies, paying special attention to that legend of acting, Mr William Shatner. It's amazing he didn't win an Oscar for ST:III, I tells ya.
If this movie has raw human emotion conflicted against Spock's logic and in the end they all learn something about themselves AND defeat the bad guy, it'll be good Trek and a good movie. If it leaves us with hope for the future, then it'll be a great ST movie (and in that respect, the anti-Watchmen).
Posted 03/07/2009 at 01:33:16 PM
OM said:
...Bah. Tyler Perry's just not that big a deal, much less a talent. Hell, if I want to see some black dude dress up in drag and try to be funny, I'll go watch Flip Wilson reruns where I can see it done *right*.
In fact, I think I'll go watch a couple right now...
Posted 03/07/2009 at 02:26:21 PM
What an idiot said:
Why are you surprised by these actors. Not only have they been announced for months, but the first trailers showed winona and you obviously just didn't pay attention. If you were a real fan you would have not needed to wait until this trailer to realize.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 03:28:19 PM
David said:
When you say "hit the jump" you sound like a complete moron. Also, this article is a waste of time, so here's a short summary from haylcron on Digg:
"I'm sorry, but why is this a front page story? Here's an article breakdown: I don't like two of the actors, that's dumb. The space battle looks cool. That chick is hot.
I mean... really?"
Pretty much sums it up without any need for a "jump."
Posted 03/07/2009 at 03:31:43 PM
Paul said:
Never saw Alias. Cloverfield was ok for a pizza vid. MI3 was unwatchable. Fringe is stupid.
So how did this guy get his hands on one of the greatest franchises in history?
Great cast but I just know the story will be secondary to things exploding and the direction will be disjointed with lots of shaky camera.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 03:35:52 PM
wooo said:
To all the whiners: It's just a movie to entertain you. Shut up and be entertained by it. Who cares if there are no fish or lame border disputes, nor aliens to not interfere with. It's still a Trek movie. Why can't they make it exciting? what's so wrong with that?
Posted 03/07/2009 at 04:03:00 PM
YOUHAVEBADTASTE said:
@ Woooo:
Yea lets all shut up and be entertained! Lets follow the rules! Lets forget about forming our own opinions! Lets go along with the crowd! Lets do what they want us to and say what they want us to say!
Yea you do that and see how far it gets you. STOP AND THINK FOR ONCE! You're the reason they can push this kind of crap to audiences around the world!
Look if you LIKED this preview and you want to see this movie, YOU HAVE TERRIBLE TASTE! You know SHIT about Star Trek, good acting, or good movies for that matter.
If you DID NOT LIKE this preview that means your opinion DOES matter because you've obviously seen the series. You know that its not this emotional piece of teeny to twenty something high school drama garbage! YOU KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO DUMB IT DOWN FOR THE AVERAGE "EXCITED" MOVIEGOER! It means you use your fucking brain!
If you LIKED the preview - You're a god damn tool.
DIDN'T LIKE - You're a BADASS!
Prove my point and try and argue with me, you're still a tool.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 04:42:09 PM
YOUHAVEBADTASTE said:
William Shatner, Brent Spiner, Levar Burton, Patrick Stewart, Leonard Nemoy, and the late Deforest Kelly would be appalled at what they're trying to do to this series!
To all "excited" moviegoers:
JE CRACHE SUR VOUS!!
Posted 03/07/2009 at 04:49:14 PM
TrekIsFantastic said:
The trailer looks really good and it's certainly doing its job selling the new 'Abrams version' of Star Trek to a younger, and hopefully a new, generation of trekies. But, I really hope there is a good or even a half decent story in it and that it's not just another action packed no brainer, but judging by Abrams' previous track record... Let's just say I'm not getting my hopes up.
-TrekIsFantastic
Posted 03/07/2009 at 05:13:56 PM
timcat said:
"I agree with the guy who said it seems like Trekkies are afraid their baby is being stolen, when it was never their baby in the first place."
We are getting in the neighborhood of fifty years so considering this is the prime, paramount, archetype, mythical example of a fictional series brought back from the dead by it's fan base I must seriously disagree with you on a material, fundamental level.
Yes, Gene Roddenberry originally gave us three seasons of Star Trek, but with out the first and greatest cult following ever that story ends with him. Every frame of every film or series after that belongs, Yes, Belongs, to the Fans who made it possible.
So if you are going to screw around with a sci-fi franchise it had better not be Star Trek.
Posted 03/07/2009 at 11:54:22 PM
varrior said:
"Yes, Gene Roddenberry originally gave us three seasons of Star Trek, but with out the first and greatest cult following ever that story ends with him. Every frame of every film or series after that belongs, Yes, Belongs, to the Fans who made it possible."
And this, friends, is why Trekkies look like retarded fish out of water in modern society. They actually think that the film and television industry owes them jack shit.
Of course, this being the internet, it's easy to make such claims.
Posted 03/09/2009 at 06:11:06 AM
pumpkinguts said:
I think we all need to calm the fuck down its a movie, It looks like a steaming pile of dogshit of a movie but it's a movie.
Posted 03/09/2009 at 07:40:07 AM
Bleh said:
"They actually think that the film and television industry owes them jack shit."
I do believe there was substantial cash handed to the industry over the last 30 years so yeah.... I think the industry does 'owe' them enough to consider their input.
Otherwise those dollars will go elsewhere.
That said.... its almost impossible to gauge whether the movie will be good or not from a trailer. At the moment, the trailers give very little *story* information. I can't tell if I'm going to get any spock/kirk/mccoy banter. I can tell they're completely ignoring the "starships are not constructed on a planet's surface" bit. Not a good start but we shall see.
Posted 03/11/2009 at 03:03:23 PM






