Well, this should please the "Transformerz have no genderz!1!!11" sub-set of the fanbase at least...

What?! Bay doesn't give a shit about the source material? Surely you jest.

I knew it. I said it before too. From that one interview of his where he was like "I'll do what I want to the movie/characters; it's my movie" it was a big red flag. Bay is without a doubt a douche bag.
I may not be a huge fan of Arcee but to just kill her off in what will probably be some obscure manner leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
And for the record I had no idea it was Jazz who died and even when I found out the movie made no effort to have the audience connect with the Transforms so I didn't really care that he was callously torn in half.

I'm telling you I get the feeling Bay's douchebaggery will lead him to kill of Optimus Prime in some worthless way not deserving of the leader of the Autobots, but on a good note since he doesn't have the Matrix of Leadership I don't have to deal with Hot Rod becoming the leader (no offense to him, but I just don't see him taking the torch from Optimus). Although from what we've seen from Bay it may end up being Shia LeBeouf becoming the Autobots' leader. *shudder*

"I'm telling you I get the feeling Bay's douchebaggery will lead him to kill of Optimus Prime in some worthless way not deserving of the leader of the Autobots"
That one's basically inevitable, I swear Optimus Prime *must* die at least once in every damn continuity for some reason...

Quite honestly, I didn't like Arcee either. Kill the bitch-bot.

I think that if the Transformers in the movie didn't look so bloody awful and looked more like detailed versions of G1 or Unicron Trilogy Transformers, than I would have tolerated the film. While Transformers have always evolved, they've at least maintained a look that made them somewhat relatable. The generic piles of scrap metal they looked like in the film helped rob them of their character.

If the robots had looked the same but been given an excellent story (and mythology) that presented them all as actual characters that I cared about, and if the movie was actually about them instead of being about humans dealing with an explosive, giant robot problem, than I would have been thrilled.

But Bay got it wrong on both counts, and that is why I feel he does not get Transformers.

Bay gets how to make $$$$ with a summer action flick cenetered around special effects, huge set pieces and pyrotechnics. It saddens me that that is what the current generation of kids will consider Transformers to be.

"Kill the bitch-bot"--classy!

Christ. Nerd Nation gets the films it deserves.

The Feminists of the world will unite. The only female Transformer in the entire series so far is put to death because Bay does not like her. And there is only one girl in the movie and she's some kind of "smoking hot" babe. I guess if Arcee was animated as a sleazy "Concubine" then he would have kept her in the movie.

Well first of all, Arcee sucks the big one, so I hope that she also gets ripped in half, and anally raped to boot, whether before, during or after the ripping is moot.

Second, it's very easy to tell that it was Jazz getting killed in the first movie. He was the Autobot that spoke in ebonics, not in Junkion.

The only reason i remember that it was jazz that was killed was cause he's the "black" transformer and the black guy's always the first one to die in an action movie.

I still don't understand when people actually admit to liking the first Transformers movie. Just the other day, I stumbled across it on TV and said to myself "Why do I hate this movie so much again?". I didn't have to wait long for an answer.

Luckily, it was the scene where the Transformers surround Shia and Megan Fox and reveal themselves in a 'way-cool' spinning-around-the-main-characters shot with the Transformers transforming in the background to go from looking like cars to looking like wobbling, indisctinct scrapheaps.

Then Optimus explains that they learned to talk from "the internet"--not radio, which is beamed into space forever and ever, but the INTERNET--and then Jazz said something like "this seems like a pretty cool place to KICK IT!" and did a fucking BREAKDANCING MOVE and landed on a car laying on his side with his hand behind his head like he was fucking posing for a fucking picture, not like if he was a fucking radically advanced war machine robot from outer space, which is what the whole fucking movie was supposed to fucking be fucking about.

JESUS FUCK.

So what makes ANYone think Transformers 2 will be anything but a maddening pile of suck?

Hachiko and Lou-Bert - What the hell is the matter with you two? You're both starting to sound like Michael Bay.

Seriously if I will support Michael Bay more if he promises to add all the stupid ass replacements from the original animated movie. If Wheelie gets stomped on repeatedly I might actually go out and buy the criterion edition of Armageddon. and if he swears that Kup gets dismembered in a long tortuous process, I will shell out cash for the deluxe edition of Pearl Harbor. and the unholy things i would do if he killed Springer and Ultra Magnus.... first and second borns..... he and jerry bruckheimer could each have one....

pls remove the if, I'm not eastern european

How could anyone not be able to tell which Autobot was Jazz? He was the one who spoke in Ebonics and had such classic lines as "whats shaking little crackers?" and I believe he also said "Fo Shizzle my Nizzle" and "You aint seen nothing yet" right before breaking into a delightful tapdance. We've known for years that Michael Bay hated black people(just look at Bad Boys for proof of that) now we know he hates women as well. This just means that Arcee will be spared the dishonor of having some electronic form of PMS that results in someone from Sector Seven shoving a giant electronic tampon into her against her will...and you know that was probably in the script at some point!

@Zach

I never liked the Arcee character, and yes to be honest, she was an unwelcome metallic vagina in the "Official Girl Haterz Society" (or whatever it was called on The Little Rascals).
And if the Wheelie in the film resembles the animated incarnation in any way shape or form, I also fully support him being dispatched by a good anal raping/ripping in two.

And I don't understand all the Bay-hating. I mean, Pearl Harbor and pissing Transformers aside, he did helm The Rock and Bad Boys II, which are respectively the Ben-Hur and Citizen Kane of dumb action flicks.

just goes to prove why certain properties and directors should not be mixed together. for bay should never have been allowed to do the films espiclaly given that he is out to kill any fan favorite transforerms or ones that fans have always wanted to see in a new film.though surely arcee could be rebuilt

Well, I suppose that tears it. I now have to track down Michael Bay and feed him his own fucking testicles before strangling him with a piece of wire.

I'll file this under "I'll believe it when I see it."

Bay has frequently mentioned his cunning disinformation campaign to keep spoilers to a minimal.

At this point it's become fairly clear that he's the only one working at the Ministry of Truth and this just means that almost everything Michael Bay says about TF:2 is a clever lie.

"The Fallen doesn't have anything to do with this movie."

"Megatron isn't in TF:2, he's only in the toy line."

And so on and so on.

Now then. Please don't take this as defending Mr. Bay, because he IS an unbelievable douchebag. I'm just saying this bit of news and his douchebag status may be unrelated.

"I didn't like how WW2 ended so I had the Japanese win"

quote from Michael Bay on the set of Pearl Harbor 2: Rising of the Rising Sun

Bay is a douche, but I just can't drum up any feelings about Arcee's potential death. She wasn't a cool transformer that just happened to be a girl; she was the female who's entire identity and purpose was to be the damn token girl character. It's mildly irritating and insulting - "You're only included because you're not a guy, not because of your interesting skills or personality." Bleck.

Even as a little girl in the 80's she annoyed the hell out of me. If this isn't just misinformation, I may cheer her death just for the hell of it, depending on her characterization (lol? In a Bay flick?) prior to being offed.

Though, the only way Arcee's death could have less emotional impact than Jazz's would be if it happened off screen, with no characters even being aware of the event.

I always kind of liked Arcee. Even if the original toon didn't do much except make her a surrogate mother/big sister figure, other writers have done some more interesting things with her...

...such as Simon Furman making her the first female TF, the result of a twisted gender-fender-bender experiment conducted by Jhiaxus in the IDW comics.

Speaking of IDW, they've been using Arcee in their Movie comics for awhile, it hasn't been bad. She's actually been something of an off-Earth central character/leader of sorts, so I hope that much is at least acknowledged in the film, death or no.

You people do know you're getting worked up over a TOY movie don't you?

Meh, Bay was a douchebag for what he did to the classic robot designs in the first film, it was to be expected that Bayformers 2 would be just as bad... well worse when you consider Bay has Optimus Prime mounting a geriatric Jetfire.

Maybe in about 10 years time (because Hollywood seem to be starting remakes closer and closer to the release of the original) we'll get someone making a new film that respects the source material and classic look of the Transformers instead of shitting all over it.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't like the first Transformers live-action movie (and I'm a HUGE TF fan so you'd think I'd like it no matter what) and doesn't like Michael Bay. I think the designs of all the TFs in the movie look like absolute sh*t (I also agree that the Autobots seemed like retards hiding in the bushes while Shia LeBouf gets a talking to about masturbation). I can't believe there are people out there that like them. They just look like a jumbled up mess of parts and metal.

Matt & Trey of South Park fame pretty much nailed Michael Bay every time they've mentioned or depicted him on screen.

In "Team America" there's a song with the lyric: "Pearl Harbor sucks, and so do you." which goes on to describe how crappy Michael Bay's movies are, and in the Imaginationland trilogy, they send up Bay by having him be a complete douche who doesn't know anything about being creative, mistaking special effects for story elements.

They're spot-on. Bay is an idiot director. He's Uwe Boll with a budget.

wrong. uwe boll with a budget made ITNotK. there is no comparison.

How is this a bad thing? Everyone is acting like Arcee is some important character like Jazz/Prime/Megs/Starscream etc. It's Arcee. Remember when she came out? Transformers the Movie.

No one likes her anyway.

Who cares about genders. Sure so TFormers have gender. So? Is that what the movie's going to focus on? Someone hoping we'd see Ironhide get it on with a motorcycle? Get your heads out of your asses. She's a minor character that no one bought into even in the 3rd season of the show.

It's like people are confused. HES NOT KILLING PRIME. HE'S KILLING A SUPPORTING CHARACTER. NO ONE CARES IF DAWALLA DIED IN BATTLESTAR. WE ONLY CARE ABOUT THE CORE CAST.

This doesn't mean he doesn't 'respect the fanbase', he knows Arcee sucks and that's all there is to say about it. If this website is going to be so anally one-sided about Transformers, then please stop reporting on it. Fucking christ man.

I personally dont give a crap about Arcee (When it comes to female Transformers, Elita One was always the best!!) but good god if Michael Bay just wants to have a giant wank over robots, why rape the Transformers franchise? Why doesn't he just call it Bayformers or My Big Wet Robot Dream and make a movie and leave the franchise of Transformers intact without raping it? I for one will not see Transformers 2. I hate Michael Bay, I hate what his done with the Transformers franchise and I hate the idea of a robot, I con't care if it's Jetfire or what, needing a walking stick!!!

Fuck You Michael Bay!! Your not getting my money!!

YES! MICHEAL BAY IS TURELY A CON!! HA HA! another bot bites the dust. ^_^ I am happy

Nothing about Bay I didn't already know. The first movie had plenty of evidence that told of his disdain and lack of respect for the core fans. The rough part is that all the box office money the movie makes him continue to believe he has good directorial judgement.

I like to blame all the lowest common denominator summer movie watchers for that. Thanks guys. Really, thanks for supporting your local Hollywood douche bag.

She dies in the movie, but not before spilling some robot menstruation on John Turturro's face.

I'd also like to point out the lunacy of declaring Jazz's death in the first movie as "touching" or "memorable." Even when I watched it, I had no idea which Autobot died, because I couldn't tell them apart.

Ha. I read that too and thought exactly the same.

"She dies in the movie, but not before spilling some robot menstruation on John Turturro's face."

I am 99.9% certain this was probably in the script at some point. Look....I liked The Rock and Armageddon,I was only a casual fan of TF,but good sweet monkey jesus was that first Transformers movie bad. The original cartoon and toy designs that had been popular for 30 years were deemed "too unrealistic" so instead we got giant chunks of blurry CGI Metal. Most of the movie was about computer hackers and horny teens and soldiers and govt. agents and anybody BUT the giant goddamn robots we all paid to see. Masturbation jokes,pissing robot jokes,and endless shots of planes and tanks and flags flying by in slow motion....all the movie was lacking was a MST3K version of Hacksaw Jim Duggin in the bottom right corner fo the screen chanting USA USA USA!!! I went to the first flick against my better judgement...no way in hell will I EVER watch the sequel. Or the godawful GI JOE movie.

how could he? HOW COULD HE.

"Most of the movie was about computer hackers and horny teens and soldiers and govt. agents and anybody BUT the giant goddamn robots we all paid to see."

You left out gimpy male chihuahuas that wear female collars and are addicted to opiates.

senseless robot death and destruction is what the movie needs.

Hmmm, i think is Mbay really wants to wow anyone he will have the decpeticons gang rape her first. I think giant robot gangrape is un sailed waters in live action cinama as of yet.

She wasn't a cool transformer that just happened to be a girl; she was the female who's entire identity and purpose was to be the damn token girl character. It's mildly irritating and insulting - "You're only included because you're not a guy, not because of your interesting skills or personality."

Hey, some of us love her for exactly that reason, Foozle. ;)

I liked Arcee. Was disappointed the original never got a proper toy.

In Hollywood, bad press is better than no press at all. Bay just might be lying like a drunken asshole in order to make sure he stirs up the Nerd Rage contingent enough to get the movie the attention it needs. True or not, he's getting what he wants from this press release.

Michael Bay: Hollywood Epic Troll.

I don't give a shit about Arcee. She was a lameass character who spent time nursing Daniel, who was also a lameass character.

""I'm telling you I get the feeling Bay's douchebaggery will lead him to kill of Optimus Prime in some worthless way not deserving of the leader of the Autobots""

Worse than the time Optimus Prime decided to kill himself because he lost a computer game? Seriously, do you fucks not know the source material that Bay's 'disrespecting'?

Hey, some of us love her for exactly that reason, Foozle. ;)

Lol, more power to you, then. =D

And to be fair, she's pretty damn awesome in IDW's publications, kinda creepy in fact. She certainly never earned the same amount of hate that I poured on Wheelie or that wheelchair kid. (I'm so going to hell for that, but really, he was a ridiculous little Marty Stu who needed to be rolled off the end of a pier above sharkticon infested waters.)

Hey, some of us love her for exactly that reason, Foozle. ;)

Lol, more power to you, then. =D

And to be fair, she's pretty damn awesome in IDW's publications, kinda creepy in fact. She certainly never earned the same amount of hate that I poured on Wheelie or that wheelchair kid. (I'm so going to hell for that, but really, he was a ridiculous little Marty Stu who needed to be rolled off the end of a pier above sharkticon infested waters.)

Will people PLEASE stop saying Arcee should get raped before she dies? Seriously, you're just showing that you either have serious issues with women or simply like to shock people for attention.

Also, anyone who takes the time to go onto a comment thread where people are discussing a toy movie and leave a post pointing out that it's ONLY A TOY MOVIE, should be... well, not raped, but something just as bad.

http://baylaw.blogspot.com/

I don't get why 'I hated Arcee in the cartoon' strikes anyone as a valid reason for hating her in a movie that's not out yet. I mean, let's look back at the first Transformers; was anyone in character more than half the time? These aren't the Transformers geeks knew and loved, these are random imposters with their names slapped on. So Bay's not killing that Arcee you thought was wussy when you were ten and she was palling around with the dorky kid in the exosuit, he's killing the only female presence among his ludicrously testerone-drunk giant robots.

And promising even less emotional impact than Jazz' death, to boot.

@Garnet

Of course, no character in the movie acted like their original incarnations; they were all monumentally worse.
This logic dictates that the new Arcee will be even more pointless, banal and annoying than the original one, who was just Daniel's milkmaid.
PPppppbbbbt. Proceed to Get Raped. Or as not to offend Zach,just die unceremoniously (although I agree with the posters who called this for the disinformation soundbite this spoiler probably is).

so i've been thinking this over, and i watched some of my old box sets and the movie, and then i went through my graphic novel collections, and I realized that they were all cheesy and kind of crappy. I love transformers, but really, much like GI Joe, Thundercats and MASK, the only purpose for adding characters or killing them was to create more toys to make. I mean I kind of enjoyed TF the first few times I saw it. I didn't really have to think, I could just tune out and watch crap go Bloosh and Kapow and outside of John Turdturro, everyone was halfway decent. I mean classic designs be damned, look at the comics and tell me you could really tell characters apart, tell me they had independent personalities. I mean Blaster led the Autobots for awhile. Optimus was missing for almost a volume and a half. Michaely Bay should die, just for my sitting through Pearl Harbor, but really outside of feeling wistful for my childhood when a new toy of Prowl for Kiddy City made my tears go away, the transformers kind of sucked.

Though if he does ruin Grimlock the only other strong personality outside of Megatron, Prime and Starscream I will jump the fence into utter hatred of TF Bay

Dude, if you needed any proof just look at what he's wearing! It's a fucking open cardigan with his fucking bare chest sticking out! Only a real douche can think that's a decent idea.

I don't much give a shit about Arcee but the fact that Bay WASTED MONEY sticking her in only to kill her off halfway in filming shows that he's not a director, he's a 12 year old who likes slapping his cock across a chess table and calling it a checkmate.

It's like people are confused. HES NOT KILLING PRIME. HE'S KILLING A SUPPORTING CHARACTER. NO ONE CARES IF DAWALLA DIED IN BATTLESTAR. WE ONLY CARE ABOUT THE CORE CAST.

Dualla WAS a part of the core cast, you fucking idiot. Sure, she was annoying, but she had been there from the beginning and had always been the optimist. Her killing herself was a huge symbolic measure, just like Gaeta leading a fucking insurrection against the man he had admired forever.

man! that would suck if i bought a motorcycle that was a robot and it was killed. that's like a couple thousand dollars down the drain...wtf?

I don't understand Bay. He could inflict so much more punishment on the true Transformers fans with killing off Arcee in a romanitc way. Like she could die in the arms of Optimus, who'd shout out:
"You killed my love Megatron, you'll pay for this I swear!"
And Arcee could whisper: "I'm so cold Optimus..."
Everybody in the audience would go: "Awwww..."
well, except us, ture TF fans, we'd slit our wrists, I guess...

Michael Bay is a huge, flaming douchebag...

Seriously? Is this news?

hi, I'm someone who can retain information for more then 20 seconds, here to tell you and your goldfishlike memory banks that bay said he would be pumping out a lot of disinformation, like him pretending megatron isn't in the movie.

@RobertDeNitro

You make it sound like you want Arcee's death to be like the chick in Ninja Scroll.

"Optimus, I am so glad to have known you, I just wish we could've made love, even just once....." Beep...Muerte.

First case of femme Autobots in Refrigerators?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Refrigerators

Michael Bay's website has a screening process in order to post on his message boards.

I dislike his films. I really disliked the new Bayformers.

Yet another Hollywood douchebag taking a shit on my fond childhood memories....

http://current.com/items/76399362_transformers-2.htm
Watch it. You'll enjoy it if you dislike his movies. =)

Wow. You people are taking this way too fucking seriously.

IT
IS
JUST
A
FUCKING
MOVIE

Get over it!

If Michael Gay died I would be the happiest person on the planet! I would arrive at his grave and piss on his freshly dug plot. Lets just say I know something you don't. He doesn't care about the well being of his crew and doesn't care about the acting in his movies. He is so bad at directing that not even his CGI robots can act! Steven Spielberg should be ashamed of himself. He should of hired a real director that cared about the fans, that cared about making a great movie with a story, not these two pieces of crap Mike GaY sh*t out of his ass. He changed the iconic look and nature of the Transformers and created his own shitty view of the show. It was not just a show, it was a huge part of all of our childhoods. Seeing flames on Optimus was very offensive. So, do what Im doing...buy the bootlegs, download it illegally, and dont let Mike Gay take your money.

One word here DORKS