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Yeah. Just let that sink in a little.
Now, you might think the fact that McFarlane wants the sequel movie to be about a cop chasing Spawn and not Spawn (because that's exactly what the 12 people who might still be looking forward to a Spawn movie would want, less Spawn in it) and that he sees DiCaprio as the cop mitigates the insanity of this somewhat, but no. It doesn't. The people who are allowed to "picture" DiCaprio in anything and have it be legitimate is incredibly limited, and mostly to top-tier Hollywood directors. When Todd McFarlane says it, it's not news, it's a sign he's utterly lost touch with reality, which he was only tenuously grasping anyways since he thought he'd be making a second Spawn film anyways. It's all kind of sad, really.
In a related story, I've pictured wrestling Diora Baird for the WWE Championship Belt in a vat of baby oil. I honestly think my odds are at least as good as McFarlane's of getting DiCaprio.
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Strangeman, "People were excited about Spawn in the same way they got excited about the Sony Dreamcast, claiming it would revolutionize everything, ever." Did you mean the Sega Dreamcast? Who thought that would revolutionize everything? It ended up being a damn fine system, nonetheless.
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How many chances does he get? Or, more specifically, how many chances will Hollywood studios give him? The 1997 live-action Spawn movie came and went (with horrible CGI effects as well). In the late 90's (maybe 1997 also), HBO aired a dark and gothic Spawn animated series that was more like the comics than the movie ever was. But, a cartoon series about a hellspawn airing at midnight on HBO may not be the best way to pick up viewers. So, studios want to give him <b>another</b> chance to make a Spawn movie? Sure, why not? It's certainly easier than making something original. Plus, the studio probably figures there are hordes of comic fans lining up to see this movie... or any comic book movie!
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God I am such a fucking retard- up until I read this article I thought Todd McFarlane and Seth "Family Guy" MacFarlane were the same person. I thought this amalgamation was an incredibly talented renaissance man, now I just think they are both kinda douchebags.
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Oh Todd! Your delusions know no bounds! Out of sheer morbid curiosity, I went to Wikipedia to catch up on what was going on in Spawn. My god...that shit makes soap operas look like the works of Shakespeare! There are times when I dream of Todd MacFarlane, Rob Liefield, Jeph Loeb and Joe Quesada sent on a shuttle to the Sun, and I sigh...
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Didn't McFarlane said he wants the next Spawn movie to be like "The Departed"?
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DiCaprio? It's been a while since I've seen anything Spawn-related, but wasn't he black? Now, admittedly, his skin color becomes less important once it all gets burned off, but still....
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I'm sure for those on the TM hatewagon (not me, I liked his Spider-Man) were thrilled to hear when he was successfully sued by the former NHL player Tony Twist whose name and likeness were used in a story without permission. And also the money he lost on the Mark Mcgwire 62nd homerun ball.
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In other news: Todd Macfarlane is actually great at pitching his sucessful movie ideas at Big-time Hollywood Heavyweights says Todd Macfarlane....who also confirmed that Jane Mansfield was also in the film currently being co-directed with Orson Wells and Alfred Hitchcock. Oh, and De-Niro. At least 12 people cheered. Todd Macfarlane fucking sucks.
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The ironic thing is that all the Image guys walking out on Marvel (and then getting run out of the DC offices), while bad for the industry in the short term, was ultimately a positive. DC refocused their line around great writers (Waid, Morrison, Dixon, Marz, Kessel) and went out of their way to show fans why the Image way of creating characters wasn't really condusive to good comics (Knightfall being the best example, although all of the Supermen were parodies of Image characters in a certain way). Marvel was hurt worse - initially failing to replace so much talent, then following DC's lead only with worse execution - but eventually they refocused on the writing as well. (It's especially funny in retrospect that they hit on the "Ultimate" idea four years earlier with Heroes Reborn, and went to Image with it, but couldn't execute until they did it all in-house.) Eventually, Image nearly collapsed under its own weight since it's much harder to keep artist-driven comics fresh over a long run (although bringing in Alan Moore to write titles like Supreme helped). What made it worse is that the combination of the DCAU style and anime's increasing influence made the Image founders' art style look increasingly out-of-date as the Liefeld clones who didn't know anything about actual storytelling were chased from the industry. Then DC bought the only studio worth a damn, Wildstorm, which basically ripped the heart out of Image.
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McFarlane is one of the talking heads responsible for the Aluminum Age of comics. The age of "dark and gritty", over-drawn musculature, hyper-sized/powered villians, giant guns, and hackneyed baysplosion stories. It happened to fall right when i tried to get back into comics and turned me right the hell off. Although I did have a soft spot for Joe Mad's overly comic art and Maggot from the XMen for some reason.
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You know, I download mass torrents of comic books, mainly because I'm a theiving bastard. But do you know what I never see in any of these collections? Spawn comics. I see dog-eared comics from the 40's, Savage Dragon comics, I see Tarrot comics, I see the most obscure indie zombie comics, but no Spawn. That's because either people do not like Spawn, or are not aware that it still exists, or remember that it did exist. If it wasn't for the toy line, I doubt people would remember McFarlane still exists. If it wasn't for Invincible, I doubt people would remember Image still exists. Spawn is dead, in more ways than one. I read a breif mention of Spawn in this month's Wizard magazine, and they were talking about how exciting it was that one of the old writers was coming back to work on Spawn, with the old characters. People were excited about Spawn in the same way they got excited about the Sony Dreamcast, claiming it would revolutionize everything, ever. In a way, it did sort of prelude today's modern comic industry, but the problem is that it stopped there and it hasn't done anything exciting since. So a movie? I don't see how a new Spawn movie could be worse than the last one. If they try taking things in a new direction like Todd suggested, it might be worth watching. A movie about a regular Joe cop trying to take down a super-powered perp who may or may not be a bad guy would probably have a better plot than the Wolverine movie, but then Spawn just isn't a draw to anyone. Why not make it all original? I mean so much shit gets changed when comics go from being comics to movies that the character and their stories are unrecognizeable, so why not just make a super hero just for the movie itself?
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"The comic readers never wanted that." Although I don't like the guy... Spidey did sell dramatically better under his pen than before. As you noted, it wasn't anything especially good, but he sort of captured the zeitgeist of the comics fan at the time with over-the-top characters like Venom. If anything, Wizard was more made by McFarlane doing the cover for the first issue than McFarlane was made by Wizard (I never read CBBG).
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@ Rotgut... You were fans? Really?!!? I hate the guy. I've hated him ever since he ruined Spider-Man, and I hate him for pretty much every other colossal "fuck you" he's given to the comics industry. I hate him for his "action figures" with no points of articulation and ridiculously high price tags. I hate him for his ego, his lack of talent, his poor writing, his awful artwork, and his role in turning comics into utter shit in the 90s. I hate him for making so many new Spider-Man fanboys think Spidey was all about Venom. I hate him for making Mary Jane look like a cheap whore, and for making Peter Parker look like an over-muscled retard. He has done NOTHING positive for comics in his entire existence. Between McFarlane and Liefeld, you have the perfect storm of suck. The only reason he got as far as he did was because the industry and the industry journalists gave him WAY more credit than the fans were giving him. Most of us HATED HIS GUTS, and wanted him as far from comics as possible. It was the comic book press (Wizard, CBBG, etc.) who kept propping him up. The comic readers never wanted that. It amazes me that it took a face-to-face interview with the man for you to feel empty and disappointed. I felt that way from the first time I experienced his work on The Amazing Spider-Man.
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Does anyone (other than McFarlane himself) really think another Spawn movie will be made?
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This isn't anything really to freak out about. I think the odds of Leonardo actually doing a Spawn movie are between slim and none. McFarlane has no chance of getting him on board for this.
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Not surewhat his current reputation is, but back in '97 or '98 we interviewed McFarlane at Toy Fair. What a total EGO MANIAC he was! My editor and I couldn't get over it. It was as if he was trying to pass himself off as God or something. He even spoke of himself in third-person ie the guy on Seinfeld (haha). Yes, as in "Todd McFarlane thinks Spawn is ready to face new challenges, blah blah..." We were such fans of the man's work and we ended up walking away from the experience feeling empty and disappointed...
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Michael Bay would be a perfect director for this movie. Seriously, McFarlane has already cut out the main character and made it a generic cop story, which is what most Hollywood directors try to do with movies like this in the first place. It's like he's already tried to make it mainstream enough that a bunch of frat holes would want to go see it. Just throw Megan Fox in there and some crazy explosions and now the name Spawn just gets the movie marketing credibility to try to get more people to come see it!
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wanting a spawn sequal with out the title character just proves that Todd idea of reality is his own . though sure spawn will be part of the film in some way. even though the old out of sight out of mind fits the character now.
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yeah... isn't Spawn black? Form what i've heard the current Spawn comics (which Todd McFarlane has nothing to do with) are pretty good. But still
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In the nerd hierarchy, where do Spawn fans fall? Below Pokemon fans older than 6 years of age, or above?
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I actually recently re-watched the 1997 movie and wow...what I thought was awesome then was pretty horrifically bad. But Spawn is still awesome and since I don't read the comics I would be down for a new movie. Not with DiCaprio though. DiCaprio should go make the 2 live action Akira's because I don't care what you say I think it could be amazing.
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"(because that's exactly what the 12 people who might still be looking forward to a Spawn movie would want, less Spawn in it) " Considering the only readable Spawn comics in history have been the ones with as little Spawn in them as possible (Bendis' Sam and Twitch comes to mind, and keep in mind that I can't *stand* Bendis), this isn't an entirely unreasonable thought. I mean, seriously, Spawn's almost as "90s awful" as Gambit.
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