• Actually, I have been calling the Hasbro customer service phone number complaining about these very badly made new G.I.Joe figures that have been around since 2007. And if you or somebody that you know that collects G.I.Joe figures is not happy with these anorexic figures that cannot stand properly and fall down easily and sometimes they slip off of the stands, and do not fit in some vehicles, or the weapons slip off of the hands, or you just hate those awful head designs, don't hesitate to call Hasbro and complain about that. Or anything else for that matter. Reach them at 1-800-255-5516.    -James

• Gi JOe original material is not a simple material to generalize. There were the 12" figs and evolution, there were the early 1982-1984 cold war influenced futuristic military vs the bad guys army. 1985-1986 probably the best remembered, colorful characters, and after that... it got a bit funky. some characters up to the late 80s still were okay, others not. The cool thing was.. you could always find the joe for you. each personality... and there were mean looking ones, and funny ones to poke fun at. A strong human dimension ( oops... looks gone here !) BUT... as goofy and stupid the cartoons were... the cartoons don't represent the whole of GI JOE by themselves. Look at the thousands of filecards, and figure artwork. Pretty impressive, thee gave the toy the essence of the characters. Just look at Zarana from 1986,Destro, Stalker form 1989, I mean... damn... The filecard had humor and some realistic military thing going on. Okay, for those who grew up and wanted more realistic joes culture... there were the comics. 2 kinds of comics.. the regular series which focused on the origins, ( thank you Lary Hama ) but a bit too much centered on the snake-eyes/ storm shadow drama to my taste...( it's cool ..) but my favorite were the SPECIAL MISSIONS. here it was just better than rambo movies, a blend of action and adventure, geo political references, real world inspired tactics and events. Please... do yourself a favor.. dont just judge gijoe from the cartoons and a few random comics.. grab the special missions, like the first issue... see, gijoe spirit ranged from goofy family appropriate animated violence to real life inspired military events and hardware, all across a platform of varied characters which made it attractive until it was overflooded with ninjas. OK. my 2 cents... they botched this movie by trying too hard on " new concepts". I understand the whole " keeping up with our times" crap. Well. army still uses powder propelled ammo and some of the coolest military hardware dates from a couple of generations. I believe the right mix and blend of coolness factor and military references/ high tech modernity might have eluded the gi joe spirit. remember, this is not about being the hottest military sh*t, this is GIjoe. otherwise... make a new matrix trilogy where nanoparticle warfare is happening from within ... think about it... cool characters, great hardware... some plot and some story telling... now let's hope they correct the shots and get this stuff to maturity by gi-joe 3... I bought a load of 25th anniversry figures but they still can't get them right. Am back to the originals now, which don't have issues of mismatching color and legs halves just as bad as these expensive and flimsy display figs. Aside a broken crotch and loose knees, old figures could withstand children intense play. New figures end up with limbs pulled off, head, and sigh... can't sit well. you know what? they could have made them work. I' m just tired of resculpting them and having to stare at someone else's hastily put together anatomical proportions errors. Peace.

• Wha... is this the new matrix? x-men? are you sure it's gi joe? the baroness lost her accent? storm shadow is this... uh... sigh. pause.. why did they need to brand this cool bad ass action flick with the GI JOE heritage? who knows, maybe they ll make so much money we're all gonna forget about the original characters.

• I've waited a long long time for a GI JOE movie. Now that it's finally here, I'm not gonna complain like the rest of you dick heads! It's a fuckn movie for crying out loud! It will not change my fuckn life. From what I've seen so far, the movie is very creative and for the dick head who has a problem with Marlon Wayan being in the movie, KEEP YO ASS AT HOME! NO ONE GIVES A FUCK IF YOU DON'T WANNA WATCH THE MOVIE. You can always watch the cartoons. Which by the way seems a little lame now that I'm a GROWN ASS MAN! I still collect the figures. I have the 25th anniversary figures and the movie figures. I do feel that the figures could have been a lot better but I'm too much of an adult to cry about it. A true fan appreciates the gift of a live action film from a child hood fantasy PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• If you saw this trailer without the movie title, you would have no idea this is a GI Joe movie. Those battle suits they wear look more like a Halo movie. StormShadow's costume looks like some high fashion crap. I have been a fan of GI Joe since the first six characters were released in the early 80's. This crap isn't GI Joe at all...it's what Schumacher did to Batman. I wont waste 90 minutes of my time and $10 on a ticket for this. Been waiting for a GI Joe movie for years and this is an absolute disappointment.

• Why, Joseph Gordon-Levitt? Why?

• Also, someone mentioned the "NFL SuperPro Suits" hahahaha! First off, thats a fuckin hilarious and fuckin true statement! It's clear this movie has the curse of being one of the thoughtless film fillers stinking up the year. That trend has grown a whole fuckin lot in the past 5 years alone. I think the writers should go on strike again, we're not paying them enough for these great movies. Sarcastic caskets. Guessing hollywood is like doing your little brothers fuckin homework, becasue we all know the questions and answers thoroughly. The question, what does the audience want to see? Answer, according to Hollywood, iron man suits, matrix action, godzilla remake quality visuals, rock music, hot bitches, guys saying serious one liners right before some copied bland action stinks up the air, the audience laughing after said one liner. Of course we know this movie will be fucking shitty. It might have its audience. I personally know the movie will be more processed and factory pressed than a mcdonalds mccatshit, but things could be fuckin worse. I'm hoping it at least sheds a light on todays youth to go out and play with those fucking toys and stop setting inside talking to random voices on the gamebox 450.

• I think you hit the nail on the head, they're not humans. They're fuckin robot bug monkeys! Fucking lame! Heres how they made the movie: Deconstructed their favortie scenes from films into theirs with the same spots for dialogue, and same thoughtless cliffhangers. 2. Put those scenes in irrelevant places, peppered throughout the entire movie. 3. Narrow minded dialogue. Each thing said is made to be a quote on a folder, which will be 75 cents next year at Dollar General. 4. Go to walmart, look for the "countdown singers" cd of generic songs, and picked out the generic version of "crazy train" to be put at the end of the trailer. Rock music makes things realistic and gritty as we all know.

• the liberals say the Constitution should change to meet the times. for example, bearing arms when most of us are miles apart and surrounded by wilderness is one thing yesterday; living walls apart from our neighbors in cities of millions is another. besides, men made it; they're flawed. so it inevitably needs correction. the conservatives say, 'how much change is too much? at what point would it no longer be the Constitution? and would changing a document that represents our core values eventually misrepresent us and no longer be respected?' fewwwww. it's a good thing we're only arguing about a movie. i'm going to imaginarily slap that latex ass(uhh, the baroness's) and watch it, never at full price of course.

• Thundercats movie cabbage patch strawberry shortcake zelda megaman super mario 2 just sayin...cabbage patch would be more entertaining than the board game movies that are coming out, like Battleship, Monopoly, and Candyland. errr...not that i'd see a cabbage patch movie. right...cuz... i wouldn't.

• GI Joe looks just like the transformers but they're shorter. Everybody busted on that movie before it came out but it was ok and made the bucks. If they're going to keep making movies about toys, here's my vote:MICRONAUTS and BIG JIM AND THE WOLF PACK!!!

• Oh yeah, one more thing: For all the apologists who are also Joe fans, remember that when this was first getting off the ground the plan was to not even have an organization called Cobra. It was deemed "too silly." Instead, they were thinking, "Well, maybe we'll have A GUY named Cobra, but we're still not really certain about that yet either." True story. So we could have had a team of young studmuffins in black attire and accelerator suits fighting generic unnamed terrorists. Would it still have been G.I. Joe THEN?

• RE: all the bickering about the necessity for radical (meaning 'extreme') updates on the Joe premise: From what we've seen thus far, you could call this movie by another name and it would still be the same. Take away all the familiar character names and physical attributes (what few are left), and you'd be left with any other generic "ultra squad" movie. Adding the G.I. Joe tag on this doesn't mean squat - it's a name for draw. In other words, if a property can be drafted the exact same way with a different name and yet be the exact same thing, what's the point of the licensing in the first place? (Other than the money draw, I know.) If you decided to "update" Superman along these same lines and decided, "Well, the underwear look is dumb. Let's put him in an all black jump suit instead. Also, newspapers are failing by the hundreds, so let's make him a textbook writer. And, flying is kind of silly, so let's give him a rocket powered motorcycle - that'll look cool. Also, he's from Earth and was given his powers by wishing on a birthday cake bought from a Chinese ancient artifacts shop." Why bother calling it Superman anymore? Oh yeah, because it's recognizable. People will come see it because they know the name and it features stuff blowing up. Everybody wins. But, is it Superman just because that's the name attached? I'm happy I have a second-run theater where I can see drek for $1.50 should I so choose, and RedBoxes where I can rent the thing for a buck should I choose not.

• You all brought this on yourselves when you paid money to see Transformers.

• I am going to watch this "film" because of Baroness and Scarlett. They look HOT! Also, WHY THE FUCK is The NFL SuperPro in this movie?!!! And there's 2 of them!!!!

• Templar said, "Do me a favour, would ya? Don't use the term "jumped the shark" in my presence again. It implies the situation is less complicated and more straightforward than it actually is..." Alright, I gotcha. I tend to write really long sometimes and I thought I'd use recognizable media terminology. But you're right. Btw, I do like such characters as Hit 'n Run. I just couldn't from memory tell at what point the line got (in my opinion) off the rails. Templar in response to GI Joe Resolute: "Didn't really like it, all in all." Valid complaints to the mini-episodes, but I was just really wanting to get your take on the costumes. But interesting to hear your views on the other stuff too. But I disagree with the point of making it adult shuts out the kids. Maybe the ones under 12, but I think Resolute is still okay for 12 and up. But that's me. Templar said, "Yes, but conversely, neither does it mean that Battle Force 2000, Armor-Tech, Mega Marines, Star Brigade and so forth were necessarily devoid of good ideas which could be usefully applied to a film adaptation, and one of these is definitely powered armour." But at some point, after looking at the width and length of the whole property, you gotta triage. I think most fans would agree that they wouldn't be too hurt to see stuff like BF 2000, Armor-Tech, Star Brigade to be left out. I just find it out what Hasbro/Paramount decided to be important elements and what wasn't. Templar said, "C'mon, Jack, even Joel "Bat-Nipples" Schumacher would've baulked at that one. ;)" You sure? :) Templar said, " I'm arguing that the nature of the franchise rules out such a thing except for maybe a period piece which would be of limited appeal to children and thus counterproductive to both Hasbro and Paramount's purposes" Perhaps. But considering how much influence the XBOX generation has had on the film, they would've also realized that sticking closer to (the version I like) would've still been fine. Remember COD Modern Warfare is HUGE. Templar said, "G.I. Joe has always been very much a product of his time and this film is no different in that respect." Let's say I'm willing to drop my personal attachment to early 80's/marvel comic book issue 20-50 version of GI Joe and you're willing to drop your Starship Trooper fetish.....you're right. Making a GI Joe movie based on the current day interests isn't a bad creative move. But I feel they still have failed to do even that. Fine, do hi-tech uniforms - do they have to be all black like Cobra uniforms. If GI Joe is in black, why make Cobra in black too? Make them in Dark Blue. Please, if someone is about to say how untactical blue is, it doesn't matter in an urban setting. SWAT teams use blue jumpsuits okay? Why not urban greys? If you wanna establish a new look for the Vipers, do you really have to copy the Army of Two masks? If I was cool with the changes, including the use of powered armored suits, I'd still be upset with the mass lack of unoriginality of art design through out the whole production. As hardcore a fanboy as I am, I'm fine with Snake Eyes, Baroness and Storm Shadow.....but those are only 3 things I'm fine with. Everything else seems uninspired. So even being okay with the retooling of the franchise, I feel the movie still fails on too many things to get me excited. Anyways, at least one of us may end up enjoying it. Its unfortunate that I won't be me. GI Joe was indeed one of my favorites growing up. I'd say even more than Star Wars. Considering how big a armored suit fan you are, you must've been pissed at the Starship Troopers movie with Verhoeven. Maybe? To me, the new Joe film is like that. You expect armored suits and didn't get 'em. I expected Special Mission style action and tactical gear and I'm getting armored suits. :) Templar said, "Peter Jackson must die. That is all." I'm angry at him too actually. Not for excluding the songs and Bombadil or the scouring of the Shire, but for effing up epic/cool moments like Eowyn's confrontation with the Witch King. WTF was that abortion of a scene? Guess he's too busy trying to make Legolas do another cool stunt than bring Eowyn's story arc to a proper and dramatic closing. Man, there's a huge list of moments that dude messed up on. Although, granted by the 3rd film he was running ragged. Directing feature films will take a toll on a man. He did 3 in a row. *shrug*

• <i>That's some clever debating there Templar. I notice you responded against my He-man reference with a logical counter point about how he would have an arctic wear version (which they did make with an ice axe and was in the cartoon) and it would make sense. However, I notice you didn't directly retort to my Batman Extreme Skyboard Pryro variant.</i> C'mon, Jack, even Joel "Bat-Nipples" Schumacher would've baulked at that one. ;) <i>Let's agree that yes, both of us would be cool with Duke wearing winter gear if he was on an arctic mission. Yes, I'm fine with Duke being able to drive the GI Joe jeep. But where you said that we were all cool with how every Joe could jump into the F-14 and pilot it, that's where you're wrong. I was never cool with that.</i> Neither was I, but I wanted to use it as an example of the fact that that sort of multi-tasking wasn't at all unknown in "classic" Joe, not that I think a suit of powered armour should only be of use to a trained specialist, an idea which, taken to its ultimate extreme in the MJOLNIR suits, makes me loathe <i>Halo</i> even as I enjoy the story and visual designs. <i>Just because I say a certain era of Joe is my favorite and the one that the live action movie should be based on, doesn't mean that era didn't have flaws that would be best left out during translation to the big screen. Same goes for Armor Brigade, Battleforce 2000, Ninja Force, or whatever other goofy crap.</i> Yes, but conversely, neither does it mean that Battle Force 2000, Armor-Tech, Mega Marines, Star Brigade and so forth were necessarily devoid of good ideas which could be usefully applied to a film adaptation, and one of these is definitely powered armour. <i>Yes, the era I'm talking about how cooky crap, all variations of Joe did. We debating over which era of Joe should've been brought to the big screen and how close they should've stuck to it.</i> I think that's where we part ways. I'm not arguing for a specific era to be adapted into a film, I'm arguing that the nature of the franchise rules out such a thing except for maybe a period piece which would be of limited appeal to children and thus counterproductive to both Hasbro and Paramount's purposes. G.I. Joe has always been very much a product of his time and this film is no different in that respect.

• That sound you hear is my childhood crying.

• <i>Well, its obvious Templar is totally cool with the upcoming live action film.</i> Not really. I'm more than a little perturbed by "Ripcord" apparently being a jokey black guy rather than than the hardass white guy from the comics, cartoons and original toy line, "Ripcord" being rumoured to be trying to hit on Scarlett at every opportunity and being warded off at swordpoint by Snake Eyes, "Ripcord" being played by Marlon Wayans... but I don't know what's been discarded by Larry Hama after he apparently went at the original script with a weedwacker, and I don't know if Marlon Wayans will manage to not be groan-inducing, so I'm keeping myself in a state of cautious optimism, and concentrating on the elements of the film that I really like, such as the powered armour, reactive armour, Ray Park as Snake Eyes and so on and so forth. <i>Oh yeah....now I remember. Lord of the Rings. I was once having a conversation with my diehard Tolkien friend and we went back and forth about whether the singing/songs should be in the movie. That and Tom Bombadil.</i> Peter Jackson must die. That is all. <i>So dude, I get you. But I'm still gonna be me.</i> Likewise. I'm still going to be me, I mean. I don't think I really "get" you at all. :p <i>Those who were fans of that era of Joes usually agree that the '82 to '86 run of toys were the best. Before the toyline jumped the shark.</i> Do me a favour, would ya? Don't use the term "jumped the shark" in my presence again. It implies the situation is less complicated and more straightforward than it actually is, as I attempted, rather backhandedly, to point out with the reference to the introduction of powered armour and ninjas in 1984. Yeah, I don't think there's much debate that most of the more memorable characters were introduced before 1987, but that's no doubt in some ways related to Sunbow not being able to continue the <i>G.I. Joe</i> cartoon into 1988, and to say the line "jumped the shark" is a disservice to the very many cool and interesting characters/figures introduced later on in the line like Hit & Run, Muskrat, Repeater, Shockwave, Rampart and others. I think things only really started going into decline around the early 1990s when the introduction of new characters was reduced to a trickle and all the figures got the same selection of brightly coloured weapons on a sprue. <i>But what I'm saying is, for me, if the new live action movie was based more on my favorite version of GI Joe, it would've been a better movie. Under the right creative team , I bet you would've liked it too and we wouldn't be having this conversation.</i> I might've liked it, if it was done in 1985 or as a 1980s period piece, but we just have to accept that "G.I. Joe vs Cobra" has always been about futuristic military tech, which necessarily means that the aesthetics have to evolve and change to reflect each new generation of kids' idea of what "futuristic" looks like, and this, the movie Joe, is arguably it. <i>By the way, overall . . . what did you think of GI Joe Resolute?</i> Didn't really like it, all in all. The animation, voice-acting, character design and so forth was quite good, but the promise of a more "grown-up" G.I. Joe was spoiled by Snake Eyes cutting down Cobra troopers who should have been able to kill him long before he got close enough to hit them with his sword, Duke and Scarlett likewise being utterly unhittable (except for dramatic effect) by Cobras, Zartan becoming a Bond villain, Storm Shadow becoming a ninja version of Emokin Skywalker, Cobra Commander killing subordinates for no good reason just to throw in a bit more violence, Duke nuking Siberia and then calling down Hell on American soil, irregardless of what the Russians might think and the fact that Cobra bases like Springfield were usually shown to house the non-combatant wives and children of Cobra operatives. It all felt rather hollow and self-indulgent, in the final analysis, and the thought that this was supposed to be for the adult fans just made it seem rather selfish, as the young kids who might just be discovering G.I. Joe weren't important enough to share in it. In this, I definitely think the movie will come out better at children, who are the ones that G.I. Joe really exists for, after all. <i>Would the GI Joe live action trailer turn you off if they used the costume designs from Resolute?</i> Probably not, but while the <i>Resolute</i> costume is probably the most visually interesting look that Duke's ever had, I just don't have the same level of interest in the costume design that I do in this film. <i>Honestly, .....if you saw a live action trailer that looked like the one we just watched, just minus the accelerator suits, and plus costumes that were more like GI Joe resolute......would you still be excited about it?</i> Yes, but as I said, not to the extent that I'm excited over the film as it is. A big part of that is that I've loved the idea of powered armour ever since reading <i>Starship Troopers</i> at a young age, and seeing it incorporated like this into G.I. Joe is something of a dream come true for me, but another part is that these new costume designs are appealing in part because they manage to incorporate certain homages to things that have gone before (Snake Eyes' visor and the lips on his mask, Scarlett's odd crossbow weapon, Storm Shadow's white costume, Destro's mask, the uniformity of the original team uniforms) while taking things in a new direction with a new aesthetic that hasn't been seen before, and I think that's a good thing, as the last few cycles of G.I. Joe designs over the years (G.I. Joe vs Cobra, Spy Troops, Valor vs Venom) haven't really been all that inspiring, and I think really hurt the line. <i>If no, then I guess the new movie is made for YOU. If yes, then the movie could've appealed to you and us crazy fanboys at the same time....rather than just people like you.</i> *chuckles* You've got that backward, my friend. The movie's being made to appeal to crazy fanboys like me and people who have no experience with the G.I. Joe universe at all, rather than just people like you. First and foremost, it's meant to introduce another generation of kids to G.I. Joe, rather than pander to us confirmed fanboys, and I think it's going to do that very well.

• And yeah, about the TV cartoons being silly too. I'm much more forgiving of a cartoon that's twenty five years old and had the budget the catering cart on these productions has. For the money and "talent" that goes into these things I expect a lot more effort.

• Oh I'm so tired of people going back and forth defending this shit. If G.I. Joe didn't work as a movie as is, then don't use it to make a fuckin movie. This looks nothing like G.I. Joe. This is another Matrix wannabe with the G. I. Joe name slapped on it. I don't mind little changes but if you showed this to people cold without telling them it was G. I Joe or that a G.I. Joe movie was even made they would have no idea. This is garbage plain and simple and until I can see it for free like I did with the Mummy movies and Van Helsing I'm not taking a step foward to it. And I'm not even a big G. I. Joe fan. I'm just tired of these crap reimagining by people who don't give a rats ass about the source material. There's dozens of filmmakers who grew up with these properties and would give an eyeball to portray it on screen they way thay saw it in their minds eye. Instead we get assholes like Sommers and Michael Bay worrying about what their next franchise will be.

• Screw you, MTV. You make me sit through a 30-second ad, and then give me nothing for it because I'm in Canada? You just go to Hell. ...yes, I know it's on YouTube now. I didn't known that when I clicked Rob's embed, where there was no indication it was hosted by MTV, aka Screw Canada, Inc.

• lou-bert vs. q-bert said: "Has anyone gotten amnesia that the animated series is ridiculous, too? Cobra and Joe soldiers practically teleporting out of vehicles & planes upon explosion!!? Laser guns instead of bullets and bombs!?? Remember 'And knowing is half the battle.'????" Oh I remember alright. That stuff was silly, even to my younger kid self I remember thinking that stuff was dumb. However, please keep in mind that when fanboys like me say "why are you changing it so much!?" we don't mean they should keep the bad stuff. We mean, keep that core good stuff, clean it up and give it to us. Example: Abrams' new Trek movie. He kept the core stuff....red shirts, blue shirts, yellow shirts, the Enterprise, photon torpedoes, the Federation, beaming, etc. Left out the bad stuff, alien wild west towns, or alien prohibition era gangster societies, dudes in rubber suits, bad fight choreography. That's kinda what we crazy fanboys want. Keep the good stuff, the core essence, leave out the bad. But there's the rub, we all differ on opinion as to what the "core essence" is. For Hasbro, just having an elite unit that fights Cobra is core enough. How they're dressed up isn't important. Trek was a good balance when it came to translating old to new. Iron Man was a good translation from comic book to big screen. Why couldn't those on GI Joe see where the balance needed to be? Probably because those in charge don't understand the source material. Or they do, but they want to put their mark on it and be the ones who re-invented it for the "better" and take ownership of that.

• These new power rangers are RADICAL!

• Okay, I've just seen the clip, and I still stand by my previous comment.

• I haven't even seen the clip and I know I'll be seeing this on the first night. Don't find GI Joe so sacred that it is an abomination to change it around, it's been done before. We've still got Larry Hama's Marvel Comics to fall back on. Has anyone gotten amnesia that the animated series is ridiculous, too? Cobra and Joe soldiers practically teleporting out of vehicles & planes upon explosion!!? Laser guns instead of bullets and bombs!?? Remember "And knowing is half the battle."???? This may end up being a steaming pile of monkey poo, but I'm going there in with an open mind.

• i bet it better than Resolute.

• I don't know which I hate more, this movie, or me for going to go see this…

• I can visualize this clip without the accelerator suits, and it would be so much better. They look like Robocop clones and they loose all individuality which makes Joe so great. This loses me right when Duke "jumps" then "climbs" up the pole. I just want this to do well, but not ruin the franchise.

• Templar said, "No, it's like seeing He-Man trudging through the snow in appropriate winter gear and complaining that he'd never stoop so low as to wear something that actually made sense in the environment he currently happened to be in, by golly. Not the True He-Man!" That's some clever debating there Templar. I notice you responded against my He-man reference with a logical counter point about how he would have an arctic wear version (which they did make with an ice axe and was in the cartoon) and it would make sense. However, I notice you didn't directly retort to my Batman Extreme Skyboard Pryro variant. Let's agree that yes, both of us would be cool with Duke wearing winter gear if he was on an arctic mission. Yes, I'm fine with Duke being able to drive the GI Joe jeep. But where you said that we were all cool with how every Joe could jump into the F-14 and pilot it, that's where you're wrong. I was never cool with that. Just because I say a certain era of Joe is my favorite and the one that the live action movie should be based on, doesn't mean that era didn't have flaws that would be best left out during translation to the big screen. Same goes for Armor Brigade, Battleforce 2000, Ninja Force, or whatever other goofy crap. You're just bringing that stuff up for the sake of winning a counter point. Yes, the era I'm talking about how cooky crap, all variations of Joe did. We debating over which era of Joe should've been brought to the big screen and how close they should've stuck to it. Considering there are characters name Snake-Eyes, Heavy Duty, Destro, Storm Shadow....we can at least agree that they weren't going for the old 12 inch figure version that were around pre-80's. So let's not bring that up anymore.

• Well, its obvious Templar is totally cool with the upcoming live action film. I'm trying to think of an instance where something deviated so drastically from the core material and I was still cool with it. Uhm....thinking....I'm sure there's something...I'll get back to that later. Just trying to see his point of view. I'm sure I've been in his seat a few times while some fanboy jabbered on about how something of his was getting raped. Oh yeah....now I remember. Lord of the Rings. I was once having a conversation with my diehard Tolkien friend and we went back and forth about whether the singing/songs should be in the movie. That and Tom Bombadil. So dude, I get you. But I'm still gonna be me. Templar said, "Depends on what you mean by 'original'. The original look and feel of G.I. Joe was the Korean War (and then Vietnam)-era U.S. military. The look and feel of the original 'G.I. Joe against Cobra the Enemy' G.I. Joes projected some rather fantastical ideas about future military personnel into their uniformically green, sweater-wearing troopers and their oddly-shaped, visored helmets, and subsequent characters tended to be either relatively down-to-earth types almost indestinguishable from real-life military personnel such as Footloose, Falcon and Dusty, and really bizarre, sci-fi types like Fast-Draw, Charbroil, and, well, Sci-Fi. Anyone seriously complaining that the movie designs are somehow divorced from the 'essence' of G.I. Joe in light of all that is beyond all reason." I knew this was gonna come up. :) Alright, when I reference the Joes, and which version, I'm referencing the ones that had the most public exposure. As many older men I run into the remember the 12" Korean war era ones, there are more that remember the 80's cartoon and comics. Those who were fans of that era of Joes usually agree that the '82 to '86 run of toys were the best. Before the toyline jumped the shark. And that the Marvel comics, 20-50 and the Special Mission (side comic) first few were the Joes written at the their best. Sure, they will be divisions. Their will be people that only remember Sigma 6. Sure, my opinion my differ from yours. But what I'm saying is, for me, if the new live action movie was based more on my favorite version of GI Joe, it would've been a better movie. Under the right creative team , I bet you would've liked it too and we wouldn't be having this conversation. By the way, overall . . . what did you think of GI Joe Resolute? Would the GI Joe live action trailer turn you off if they used the costume designs from Resolute? Honestly, .....if you saw a live action trailer that looked like the one we just watched, just minus the accelerator suits, and plus costumes that were more like GI Joe resolute......would you still be excited about it? If no, then I guess the new movie is made for YOU. If yes, then the movie could've appealed to you and us crazy fanboys at the same time....rather than just people like you.

• <i>That would insinuate logic was used in the scripting of this "film".</i> Exactly. Try watching the clip again. Duke's visor appears to have been smashed when he gets caught in the shockwave from the Baroness's gun.

• <i>I'm sure they did a little bit of that too. But I'm talking more about art design. When it came to the "look" I think its obvious that they were heavily influenced by the art design styles of the current video game market. Now, the idea is all well and all, but its applied in a way that doesn't evoke the original look and feel of GI Joe.</i> Depends on what you mean by "original". The <i>original</i> look and feel of G.I. Joe was the Korean War (and then Vietnam)-era U.S. military. The look and feel of the original "G.I. Joe against Cobra the Enemy" G.I. Joes projected some rather fantastical ideas about future military personnel into their uniformically green, sweater-wearing troopers and their oddly-shaped, visored helmets, and subsequent characters tended to be either relatively down-to-earth types almost indestinguishable from real-life military personnel such as Footloose, Falcon and Dusty, and really bizarre, sci-fi types like Fast-Draw, Charbroil, and, well, Sci-Fi. Anyone seriously complaining that the movie designs are somehow divorced from the "essence" of G.I. Joe in light of all that is beyond all reason. <i>I'm sure Templar would like to point out that even Joes use power armor but most of his links just show guys in heavy padding.</i> I'm sure Violence Jack would like to dismiss the evidence of powered armour-use in G.I. Joe, but he's rather difficult to take seriously when he's describing, among others, the "Armor Brigade" series of Joes including one "Robo-Joe" as being clad in nothing more substantial than "heavy padding". <i>And I'm cool with a Joe in power armor, but its gotta be in the Joe style. That being a specialist trained on that suit, brought on board to operate it.</i> Which, again, is a ridiculous assertion, given that having trained fighter pilots never stopped Flint, Lady Jaye, Duke, Scarlet <i>et al</i> from operating fighter aircraft in the cartoon, or from participating in arctic or desert missions despite the presence of trained arctic and desert warfare specialists in the comics. <i>Hasbro got real sci-fi and wacky after a certain time. Everything became power armor and ninjas.</i> Yes, right around 1984, when they dropped the team uniform look and started to bring in what are often referred to as the "Village People" characters. But yeah, it's not like a toy-line that featured a laser infantry trooper, a "Heavy Artillery Laser" and a rocketpack trooper right from the 1982 get-go could have been "real sci-fi and wacky" from the beginning, right? <i>True Joe fans don't really count those so please don't use them as canon.</i> Your interpretation of "True Joe Fans" is non-definitive and open to criticism. <i>Its like seeing a Jungle Attack He-man costume in the upcoming He-man movie and saying its okay because Mattel made that variant.</i> No, it's like seeing He-Man trudging through the snow in appropriate winter gear and complaining that he'd <i>never</i> stoop so low as to wear something that actually made sense in the environment he currently happened to be in, by golly. Not the <i>True</i> He-Man! <i>Movies should be based on toylines and their stories from a time when they were at their best.</i> Again, as we can readily see here, what constitutes a toy line "at its best" is highly contentious and open to distinctly differing interpretations.

• "Most likely because the visor was smashed when Baroness blasted him with her pulse-gun. Not the most realistic way to deal with damaged hardware of that sort, perhaps, but as you said, this is a movie. ;)" That would insinuate logic was used in the scripting of this "film". I think it more likely that they wanted to make sure we could all see how pretty he is. I restate, "Fuck Hollywood."

• Templar said, "Or they could have, y'know, been digging through Popular Mechanics for ideas (like Hasbro designers have often done for the past couple of decades) and realized that powered armour and liquid reactive armour are the next big things in infantry tech as far as the U.S. Army is concerned... " I'm sure they did a little bit of that too. But I'm talking more about art design. When it came to the "look" I think its obvious that they were heavily influenced by the art design styles of the current video game market. Now, the idea is all well and all, but its applied in a way that doesn't evoke the original look and feel of GI Joe. Usually, power assisted suits were left to Cobra Commander's second armor suit or the Cobra S.N.A.K.E. http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/83/snake/ I'm sure Templar would like to point out that even Joes use power armor but most of his links just show guys in heavy padding. That's not power armor. And I'm cool with a Joe in power armor, but its gotta be in the Joe style. That being a specialist trained on that suit, brought on board to operate it. Now, I can't rightly recall if there were ever such a Joe, but you gotta remember, Hasbro got real sci-fi and wacky after a certain time. Everything became power armor and ninjas. True Joe fans don't really count those so please don't use them as canon. Its like seeing a Jungle Attack He-man costume in the upcoming He-man movie and saying its okay because Mattel made that variant. Or seeing a sky surfing pyro Batman in a third Batman movie and saying its okay because there's a toy that legitimizes it. Even toylines jump the shark. Movies should be based on toylines and their stories from a time when they were at their best.

• <i>This is what I'm pretty sure they did: sat around in a "creative" meeting, asked each other what their target demographic were into (boys 10-18), figured it was the X-Box 360.</i> <i>Accelerator Suits = Halo Spartan suits, Joe Combat Uniform = Splinter Cell, Solid Snake suits, Cobra Vipers = Army of Two guys.</i> Or they could have, y'know, been digging through <i>Popular Mechanics</i> for ideas (like Hasbro designers have often done for the past couple of decades) and realized that powered armour and liquid reactive armour are the next big things in infantry tech as far as the U.S. Army is concerned...

• <i>I full agree that soldiers should use whatever weapons they have available to them but this is a movie. If the entire movie is like this with the bad guys wearing normal clothing while the Joes fight with powered armor it is going to make them a lot less heroic.</i> True enough, but I'm not sure what would make you think there's such a disparity in firepower all the way through. We've been told repeatedly that the Accelerator suits are only utilized in the Paris sequence, and throughout the rest of the film, the Joes seem to be combatting heavily-armed and armoured Vipers of various sorts (one scene apparently has bullets bouncing off of the Cobra soldiers' armour) while dressed in more mundane military body armour or their reactive armour suits. <i>Additionally, why did Cobra bother to break into the building, they clearly had a perfectly usable hover-jet to launch the rocket from.</i> No idea. I think we'll have to wait till the film's released to get the answer to that. <i>I would like to second Cobra Commander's point as to why did Duke take his helmet off.</i> Most likely because the visor was smashed when Baroness blasted him with her pulse-gun. Not the most realistic way to deal with damaged hardware of that sort, perhaps, but as you said, this is a movie. ;)

• &#64;Templar: I full agree that soldiers should use whatever weapons they have available to them but this is a movie. If the entire movie is like this with the bad guys wearing normal clothing while the Joes fight with powered armor it is going to make them a lot less heroic. Additionally, why did Cobra bother to break into the building, they clearly had a perfectly usable hover-jet to launch the rocket from. I would like to second Cobra Commander's point as to why did Duke take his helmet off. The next scene should be him smashing his head into the jet and spending the rest of the movie in a coma.

• This is what I'm pretty sure they did: sat around in a "creative" meeting, asked each other what their target demographic were into (boys 10-18), figured it was the X-Box 360. Accelerator Suits = Halo Spartan suits, Joe Combat Uniform = Splinter Cell, Solid Snake suits, Cobra Vipers = Army of Two guys. Friggin sad. Brandon said, "i dont see why people get their panties in a wad over the way this film looks.....get over it.....no crap things are gonna be different...they have to make it more modern and more main stream.....this movie will be a success" I totally understand updating stuff. Sometimes, with things that were really old or just plain don't translate directly, you gotta do some work on it. Mostly silver age super heroes with underwear on the outside. But its GI Joe! Its guys in military gear fighting a James Bond like villian (instead of SPECTRE, its Cobra). All you had to do was NOT put in some of the sillier characters that came later. (Raptor, Sgt. Slaughter, Croc Master, etc, anything Battleforce 2000) Oh, wanna know why we're mad? Because we're fans. How hard is that for people to understand? Aren't you a big fan of something? Just because you're not Joe fan doesn't mean we're crazy for being disappointed. Sure a little change is okay. I'm also a huge Trek fan, but I was fine with the new Abrams movie. Why? Because he didn't change it that much! Now imagine something you really like being drastically altered and you'll know how we feel. I used to make fun of people who griped on "Vanity Fair" not being as good as the book. Or "Total Recall" not being faithful to the original story, because I didn't care about any of those books. But now its happening to me. Everyone gets a turn eventually on the Hollywood rape wheel.

• After the first preview, I was prepared to write Steven Sommers' effort off as on par with "The Mummy": stupid, but enjoyable. Now it's looking more and more like "Van Helsing". I will not pay for my eyes to bleed a second time unless he plans on spotting my doctor bills. And sorry, but G.I. Joe ain't shit without Baroness' accent. For realz.

• <i>Also, why is that the heroes have super-powers thanks to the accelerator suits yet they are fighting normal human villains?</i> Soldiers aren't supposed to fight fair. If you have an overwhelming advantage, use it. More to the point, it looks as though, in-movie, the Cobra operatives are trying to be relatively low-profile to help pull off their attack on the Eiffel Tower, hence Storm Shadow's white business suit and the black Hummer H2s instead of full ninja gear and HISS tanks. The Joes have no such concerns.

• <i>those mech battle suits look really stupid and totally take the fun out of the whole concept of GIJoe show - a crew of dudes and chicks that don't really look like they're on an elite military strike force but still kick ass.</i> Don't be ridiculous. G.I. Joe has <i>never</i> been about "dudes and chicks that don't really look like they're on an elite military strike force". The actual concept has always been military fantasy, "15 minutes into the future", which is to say <i>Popular Mechanics</i>-type prospective military tech, hence the focus on autonomous armed drone vehicles (the Pack Rat combat robots), man-portable laser weapons (Flash, Sci-Fi, Laser Vipers), combat-effective rocket packs (Grand Slam's JUMP, Hawk's 1991 incarnation), stealth bombers (the X-19 Phantom), genetically-engineered supersoldiers (Serpentor, Hydro-Vipers, Star Vipers, Bio-Vipers...) and since the latest projected innovation in military technology "15 minutes into the future" is powered armour, it only makes sense that the movie's going to take the opportunity to show-case it as it does other prospective innovations like weaponized nanites and sheer thickening fluid, a liquid silicate substance with formidable ballistic properties which (in-universe) forms the basis of the black armoured suits the Joes are seen wearing.

• <i>Boo, can't watch the clip in Canada.</i> The clip's up on YouTube now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2drp2R5mMM

• I will give this to the GI Joe movie, it is set to be the most efficient adaptation of a popular comic book/animated series. Most of these movie series took at least three movies to destroy my fond childhood memories (X3 and Spidy 3. Also, why is that the heroes have super-powers thanks to the accelerator suits yet they are fighting normal human villains? I will be physically sick if the movie turns into a super-powered Marlon Wayans beating up a non-powered Destro.

• To everyone who doesn't like people bitching about this film... 1. When did this become a discussion about your opinion of my opinion? Discuss the movie. Convince me that it rocks. I don't need your analysis of what other people have said. 2. Whether or not the movie does well or looks good, has nothing to do with whether or not it is true to the original. They are two different issues. I think the Transformers movies suck as transformers movies - but I like them as movies. 3. It IS possible to remain true to a franchise and do well. Iron Man. LOTR. Spider-Man. You don't HAVE to abandon the core elements of a franchise for the film to succeed. It's just a lot harder to do. So if don't like the complaining, offer a differing view! Or at least divorce your opinions of whether the movie looks good from whether it is faithful to the original. Two different arguments. In the meantime, stop wasting our time bitching about other people's opinions.

• Boo, can't watch the clip in Canada.

• those mech battle suits look really stupid and totally take the fun out of the whole concept of GIJoe show - a crew of dudes and chicks that don't really look like they're on an elite military strike force but still kick ass.

• <i>Yes, Cobra had the MOBATS SNAKES, those big suits of robo-armor but those were for nameless grunts that the Joe could shoot without qualms. The Joes (and main Cobra forces) never subsumed their visual identities to wear SyFy TV movie superhero costumes and jump around in slow-motion like the world's least timely Matrix rip-off.</i> Yeah, the Joes (and main Cobra characters) never, <i>ever</i> wore powered armour as the links below attest: http://www.yojoe.com/action/87/cobracommander3.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/clutch3.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/blastoff.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/gungho5.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/mirage.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/robojoe.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/duke5.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/rocknroll4.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/heavyduty2.shtml http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/destro4.shtml Geez, Rob, you're embarrassing me...

• You know, the problem here is that for every one of you shaking your fist in rage at how bad you plan to hate this movie, there are literally a hundred normal non-adults-who-cry-over-live-movie-adaptions-not-matching-their-fond-childhood-memories-of-cartoons-created-solely-to-sell-toys types who are going to pay to see this movie. Same as they did Transformers, and same as they're going to do at the second one, and so on. Internet nerdrage is so far from the beliefs of the bulk part of the movie-going public, it's not even funny. Want more proof? Anyone who's ever so much as picked up a single Wolverine comic in their lives hated the Wolverine movie. Yet how much did it make? My point here is, I don't know why you waste the energy being mad or hating the movie, when they are going to make metric shit-tons of cash despite you and everyone you know planning to "boycott" it. So have fun with that wasted effort.

• i dont see why people get their panties in a wad over the way this film looks.....get over it.....no crap things are gonna be different...they have to make it more modern and more main stream.....this movie will be a success

• "Nostalgia has a firm grip on all the "true fans" that it can't let them see that, yep, the original cartoons all these "abortions" were based off of were just as goofy." I can accept that the cartoons were goofy and for kids, but there was a ahole other, kick-ass version of both Gi Joe and Transformers. Most of the comics, at least the ones that continued in coninuity, were really well written, with good character development, great art and cool action/violence. Theses were both great franchises from our childhood with awesome toys. What really saddend me is the great potential lost by ruining the entire concept behind this franchise. I know, it's based on a toy and don't expect Oscar quality. I just want a good action flick that resembles at least marginally the stories, characters and vehicles from the original line. You can update and enchance without erasing everything that makes a concept stand out. They'd rather give us generic shit. This movie looks like a steaming pile of shit even if you were to call it an original concept, erasing all GI Joe branding from it. Fuck you Hollywwod.

• So why did that little kid playing, against all logic, the veteran soldier, Duke, take off his helmet when running after the helicopter. Does it serve no purpose? What goos is armor with a bare head. Everything about this sucks so much, it hurts.

• "I've grown to expect that from this site, though. I've seen more than a few Transformers articles where they position themselves as die hard fans who can't accept change,then say things that make it seem like they've never even watched the show." I heard that. Nostalgia has a firm grip on all the "true fans" that it can't let them see that, yep, the original cartoons all these "abortions" were based off of were just as goofy.

• I'm going to have to stop trying to make connections with the "Modern Era" GI Joe toys and comics on this, since it is more than clear all associations with source material are completely irrelevant to the filmmakers. Stormshadow makes an appearance in the first 5 minutes of the film not only being un-ninja, but unmasked? I don't care how right Baroness looks, because that's an epic failure. I could harp on the go-go-joe powersuits, too, but really, what else needs to be said about them? This whole movie looks like the filmmakers and Hasbro decided to completely relaunch GI Joe as a new brand, completely detached from what came before. It is 100% clear from the clip that it is not made for existing fans. What I wonder (and it's a bit of a nightmare, really) is if little kids will dig this. Its SO terrible and schlocky that it looks Power Rangers awful. Could it be hilariously stupid and retarded in a way that's entertaining to people that don't know the franchise? I'm not saying that is a noble thing to do, but I do wonder if that is a deliberate choice they made which could explain what otherwise is complete insanity and ineptitude in making a movie with the name "GI JOE".

• I keep on saying that the Joes look like the offspring of retarded Iron Man suits! I really hope this film bombs. It has no good qualities.

• Did they really just duplicate Team America? Heheeee. Oi. I can't see this film. I love my Joes, but this is bad. Sucky, terrible, bad. (I know everyone attack France, but all I can think of right now is TA.)

• I didn't really have an opinion of the movie, one way or the other. I wasn't really that into gi joe as a kid. But wow, that...looks like a really bad movie. Not just a bad adaptation, but a bad movie.

• What's funny is that I was all excited after seeing that they'd gone to the trouble of putting details like Snake Eyes' ninja clan symbol on his costume - that had to have come from Hama. Of course, then they showed off the rest of the costumes and yikes... bad times. Unless the accelerator suits are supposed to be a disaster in waiting and the theme of the movie is that the soldiers are better without too much technology around them (... could work...), I don't see how this is going to make any kind of an impact, much less make enough money for a sequel.

• Wow...the more I see the more it looks like another Streetfighter. /loads gun, points at head.

• &#64;Joe: not so! I can watch it from Germany. Though, you probably came out the better for not seeing it. Boy, is this film going to be a hot, humid pile of feces. Why were they all grunting all the time? How did SS extricate himself from a Joe - in his goram speed suit - after just getting tackled? I wish I could have seen this in a theater, because booing loudly doesn't play so well alone in my office.

• I have to agree. The original story implied that the United States Armed Forces, working together, could defeat any enemy, even the bad-ass army of mirror-faced clones that was COBRA. Now it's like "let's put put a bunch of tweens in supersuits and play Matrix".

• I'll tell you one thing. . . the only, and I mean THE ONLY reason I will see this movie is for the Baroness. Accent aside, she just looks too hot to pass up. It's amazing they even got the Baroness' sex appeal right. The rest of that super armored NFL half time show crap can just go straight to hell. For about 30 years the Joe's have held strong against the forces of Cobra. Looks like Cobra finally gets to win one.

• I'm cool with playing fast and loose with details to make things work on screen or to update them some for a new generation, like Star Trek, for instance. However, in this case, the problem is that, aside from the look of the Baroness and Snake Eyes, this in no way resembles or feels like G.I. Joe. Plus the "accelerator suits" looks retarded and completely unbelievable, via poor CGI. That said, I'd probably see the movie just to see Rachel Nichols in a skin tight armor suit as Scarlet. My childhood crush still abounds, lol.

• Yea I saw the trailer a few weeks ago on the big screen. Not impressed at all.

• I'm really excited about this,but then again I don't really give a shit about G.I. Joe in the first place,so I don't really care if they change stuff. Of course,I guess I am a bigger fan than the guy who wrote: "Yes, Cobra had the MOBATS, those big suits of robo-armor but those were for nameless grunts that the Joe could shoot without qualms." I've grown to expect that from this site,though. I've seen more than a few Transformers articles where they position themselves as die hard fans who can't accept change,then say things that make it seem like they've never even watched the show.

• Bwwwwwww I cant watch it as its america / canada only

• I remember the first bit i read about this was that a Wayans was going to be one of the main characters. The next thing i read was that Hasbro was in close on the production actually hiring on Larry Hama to help produce and keep things legit. The Wayans thing made me think this would be horrible, the Hama thing made me think there was still hope. The more i see of this movie the more i realize my initial reaction was the correct reaction and this movie will be the biggest rape fest piece of shit released this year. This is more along the lines of the shitty GIJOE SIGMA 6 which by the way is NOT GIJOE at all. The only good thing about this entire fiasco is that Sienna Miller looks fucking rad as fuck as Baroness other then that this thing is the most blasphemous pile of trash that has ever been forced upon GIJOE fans. I will say this with a straight face and with a full sense of what it means and bare all consequences head on ... "When this movie gets released the Motion Picture Academy MUST go back (posthumously?) and award Duplh Lundgren the award for Best Actor for his portrayal of Frank Castle in the Punisher to balance out the level of suck this movie will achieve once released. If they dont do this there will obviously be a time rip in the fabric of space and we will be plummeted head first into a world where Ishtar is considered the greatest film ever made and the likes of Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Gone With the Wind and The Wizard of OZ are all seen as historical flops and terrible examples of the movie making industry." I beg you that if you ever liked GIJOE even in the smallest way please boycott this movie and show HASBRO and Hollywood they are fucking morons and need to stop trying to fix things that arent broken! We like GIJOE FOR A REASON, AND THIS AINT FUCKING IT!!!

• Baroness without an accent? Bull. Shit. That goes for the rest of this abortion of a film as well.

• To be nitpicky and pedantic, the MOBAT was a G.I. Joe tank (though Cobra had their Battle Android Troopers, or BATs); the Cobra robot/robotic armors were called "S.N.A.K.E.S." Without going into needless details, the MOBAT acronym was also much less tortured. And more easily retconned into something less toy-referential. Anyway, as for the movie...maybe it'll be better on DVD. When we can switch the French-language track on and pretend that it's actually an Action Force movie guest-starring Destro. And...adjust the contrast so the almost assuredly revamped Cobra logos don't look as prominent. ::pause:: ::agonized bawling::

• ...The Fuck?

• Not gonna see this. But then again I'll end up closing my eyes and letting Hasbro facefuck me when I shell out for the toys.

• I agree, this movie looks pretty awful. Unfortunately it'll probably be a big hit which means we'll have to put up with more awfulness every couple summers for the foreseeable future.

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