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Templar said:
instead of the drunks, lunatics and drunk lunatics on-board the Battlestar Galactica.
That pretty much sums it up, sadly. Ah, for the days of Dirk Benedict...
Posted 06/23/2009 at 11:33:10 AM
Stephen said:
Just let it die already. It was a good, occasionally great series, but you're dragging a corpse around like a Weekend at Bernie's movie at this point.
Bad enough that Caprica looks awful. What drove me away from BSG during that last season was too much focus on the Cylons at the expense of the human characters and the political drama that drove the show in the first couple of seasons, and now they want to make an entire movie revolving around the Cylons? Pass.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 11:37:00 AM
Bloods End said:
Yeah. Then we could have cowboy robots and daggits.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 11:38:25 AM
emerson999 said:
@Stephen
Agreed. The last episode left a really sour taste for me. But I have a feeling it's these kinds of rehashes that are going to taint my memory of loving the show so much. This just looks like it's going to go the way of the most hated tv convention, the clip show. And Caprica, from the pilot, seems like wasted potential heaped on wasted potential. I'm going to watch both, because I'm pretty desperate for any scifi at this point. But I have a bad feeling about it.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 11:46:10 AM
Templar said:
Yeah. Then we could have cowboy robots and daggits.
Exactly. Modern sci-fi is sorely lacking in robot cowboys and cyborg dogs.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 11:47:22 AM
front toward everybody said:
Big BSG fan, and I'll probably watch this, but I'm skeptical.
I mean would you watch a show that's set on the Death Star or the Executor that's just the same as Star Wars IV-VI but from the Empire's point of view? Would that be compelling entertainment?
Actually, that might be a bad example. I would totally watch that.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 12:09:49 PM
Stephen said:
"Actually, that might be a bad example. I would totally watch that."
Yeah, I'd totally watch that. Screw Clone Wars, I want "Empire", with the Emperor figuring out new and creative ways to neuter the Senate and Vader wandering around killing anyone who so much as bends a spoon with their mind.
Really, I just want a Sci-Fi West Wing. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK!?!
Posted 06/23/2009 at 12:12:09 PM
Marshall Lex said:
"Empire" is probally the most genius TV idea I've heard all afternoon! Storylines could include the Stormtrooper Union complaining about the poor quality of their guns. Darth's drunken liason with a R2 droid on board the deathstar (with the second season dealing with his grief after it is blown to pieces by Luke "Genocidal" Skywalker). And of course a whole episode with the stormtroopers studying the sercurity footage of the Cantenia trying to work out who shot first.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 12:44:45 PM
Stardoe sucks said:
Correction: Just let it die already. It was an occasionally good, overrated mess of a series, and you're dragging a corpse around like a Weekend at Bernie's movie at this point.
Syfy really wants to hang on to that extra 600,000 viewers the show dredges up, eh?
Posted 06/23/2009 at 12:58:16 PM
emerson999 said:
On the other hand, despite reservations about this - I would totally watch a new weekend at bernies movie. Now there's a franchise which needs to come back.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 01:05:59 PM
Captain Flunky said:
Does it have Grace Park in it?
I'm there.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 01:09:41 PM
ZeroCorpse said:
First, I'm so NOT interested in anything BSG ever again. That "god did it" ending just pissed in my face, and I'm not going to give them my time anymore. Fuck them and their horrible ending; "God did it" was more insulting than Peter Parker asking the devil to save Aunt May and grant him a supernatural divorce.
Now, the idea of a show based around the Empire... That's good stuff. Especially if it tells the story in the way much of the galaxy must have seen it: The Empire is THEIR empire, and thus the good guys. The Rebels are terrorists and murderers, and thus the bad guys. Sure there will be conspiracy theorists under the Empire who talk about how Palpatine is a cruel leader, but the majority of people (especially humans who don't like aliens all that much) would love their nation and be truly patriotic.
Imagine a scene from EMPIRE in which the Galactic Empire's version of Glenn Beck or Rush Limbuagh talks about how the terrorist rebels destroyed some Imperial ships at the Sluis Van shipyards while Vader and the top officials were attending a ceremony, "These ''rebels'' as they call themselves, are murderers and traitors. They killed 2,000 good men and women of the Imperial Navy! How can anyone defend what they're doing? This just floors me. It truly sickens me to see my galaxy being tarnished by these terrorists. But don't you worry folks; The Emperor has sent Lord Vader to chase them down, and rest assured, they will be stopped!"
Then, a year or two later, the Death Star is destroyed. Of course, to the public at large it wasn't marketed as the "Death Star", but the Imperial Expeditionary Battle Planetoid. As far as the public knows, the terrorist rebels destroyed a multi-trillion-credit project that was going to protect the galaxy, and they murdered a crew of 265,675, as well as 52,276 gunners, 607,360 troops, 30,984 stormtroopers, 42,782 ship support staff, and 180,216 pilots and support crew.
Yeah. They're terrorists all right. Can you imagine the outcry from Americans if a small, suicidal "freedom fighter" cell murdered THAT MANY loyal military and non-military personnel?
Yep... A series like that could be fun. It would be great seeing them paint the rebels as villains, and seeing the process Vader goes through in swatting down Jedi who "lie" about and threaten the safety of the Empire, while making it look like they're the bad guys.
I'd be so into that.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 01:10:45 PM
Templar said:
Imagine a scene from EMPIRE in which the Galactic Empire's version of Glenn Beck or Rush Limbuagh talks about how the terrorist rebels destroyed some Imperial ships at the Sluis Van shipyards while Vader and the top officials were attending a ceremony, "These ''rebels'' as they call themselves, are murderers and traitors. They killed 2,000 good men and women of the Imperial Navy! How can anyone defend what they're doing? This just floors me. It truly sickens me to see my galaxy being tarnished by these terrorists. But don't you worry folks; The Emperor has sent Lord Vader to chase them down, and rest assured, they will be stopped!"
Amusingly, and perhaps unbeknownst to ZeroCorpse, there's a considerable amount of material in the Star Wars Expanded Universe sources to make the case that the Rebels were murderous terrorists, by and large (atrocities include Rebel cells on Coruscant releasing hardened murders and other violent criminals from maximum security prisons after news of the Emperor's death got out, resulting in "an orgy of murder and rape" of otherwise innocent Imperial citizens), and the "New Republic" that replaced the Empire essentially a violent, expansionistic, one-party Fascist state. :p
Posted 06/23/2009 at 01:43:01 PM
Endroren said:
They lost me at "Starbuck is a ghost....woooooooo!" I just don't care anymore.
Posted 06/23/2009 at 02:13:01 PM
Chelsea said:
Look, it's written by Jane Espenson, who couldn't write anything bad if she tried, and directed by EJO (and the few eps of Battlestar that he directed were always creepy and awesomely rythmic) so I'm there.
The quality of the show might have waned a little at the end, there, but it was still better than 99% of everything else on tv, even at its worst.
Love you forever, BSG!
Posted 06/23/2009 at 04:07:45 PM
Chelsea said:
And Starbuck was an ANGEL, not a ghost, get it straight!
(Still that particular choice did make me roll my eyes a little. Cop-out, guys. Cop-out.)
Posted 06/23/2009 at 04:10:06 PM
Daniel said:
The first two seasons of BSG just blew my mind. Some of the best Sci-Fi ever made. And then...
The horror.... the horror.... *sobs hysterically*
Posted 06/23/2009 at 11:44:00 PM
ZeroCorpse said:
@ Templar
You know, I do read the EU stuff, and I have just one thing to say:
Darth Caedus was SO the good guy in that last series.
Posted 06/25/2009 at 01:42:03 PM
varrior said:
"Look, it's written by Jane Espenson, who couldn't write anything bad if she tried"
She wrote Deadlock, which is universally considered one of the worst episodes in the series, and is known for being one of the worst writers on Buffy.
I don't know why people like to suck Espenson's metaphorical cock. She can't write character or plot in any sort of continuity, and people seem to enjoy her brand of smarmy and idiotic dialogue that she writes. Look no further than the Caprica pilot, Deadlock, and The Hub for some complete character derailment.
Posted 06/26/2009 at 10:24:09 PM






