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First up, if you were concerned about Mickey Rourke's Lord Humungus-esque Whiplash harness/outfit that got revealed a few months ago, Comic Book Resources says that's for an early scene in IM2, and Rourke will be wearing a more imposing, armored Whiplash/Crimson Dynamo-type outfit before the end. Now, I think that's a good thing. It's hard to take Rourke as a credible threat for Iron Man when his nipples are exposed.
The second rumor is very much a rumor, because I can't track down where it started, but i concerns Michael Papajohn's appearance in Spidey 4 which gave me a small nerd rage-aneurysm the other day. I just assumed that Raimi was going to re-re-retcon Uncle Ben's death, but someone somewhere has suggested that this might actually be Spidey villain the Chameleon in one of his disguises. I certainly hope that's the case, since it both fucks with Spidey and doesn't muck up the already murky waters of movie Uncle Ben's murder.
So yes. Two things thaat make me look forward to two comic-based movies, although admittedly they're not confirmed. It is possible, people. It's just not very often.
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Zach R said:
I'm sure Spider-Man 4 will be another turd. I really still don't buy Tobey Maguire as Spidey. He's not witty enough and still just does that wide-eyed, aw shucks shit he's done for years. Iron Man 2, on the other hand, will be rock sauce.
Zeig said:
I agree with Zach for the most part, Maguire looks the part of Spidey, but he does not play the part well, so hopefuly a real villan in the 4th movie would make it enjoyable =D
Kaiyodo said:
i always thought that wasnt whiplash/crimson dynamo definitive outfit. about spidey movie, coming from the third one, i just have lost any respect on the directors desicions for a 4th movie... maybe they get the same guy that coreographed the dance on boolywood heman to this one....
DE12 said:
I am actually hopeful for Spidey 4, cause this time Raimi won't be taking crap from the execs which is what caused the venom mess. I do agree that Tobey doesn't act enough like spidey, hell in the third movie, Harry makes more quips than spidey does.
As for Iron Man 2, it should be awesome.
Chance said:
I'm surprised at all the venom (Ha!) towards Maguire as Peter. He is a respected actor that brought a lot of clout to the franchise when he was cast. Remember gimmick comic film casting like Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze? Thanks to Maguire's success in the Spidey films, we got excellent casting like Downey in IM. Favreau never would have gotten the studio to sign off on that if audiences hadn't turned out for Maguire as Spidey, Jackman (respected in Australia and on stage before the X films) as Wolverine, etc. Now it's the NORM for quality actors to play comic heroes/villains, not the exception, and so you get directors casting actors who can actually play the role (like Papa Kirk as Thor) and not just the latest beefy action star.
DE12 is right - the studios demanded Raimi shoehorn Venom into Spidey 3 because they were worried Raimi, Maguire, Dunst, etc. would all be done and they wanted a 'finished' trilogy. Imagine Spidey 3 without Venom, and with Sandman's story (which I loved) even more fleshed out and the conflict between Peter and Harry given more time to develop. That is the film Raimi would have given us.
I would like to see Petey deliriously happy in the next one so that can contrast to the darkness whatever villain brings. We've had enough brooding Spidey for awhile.
Endroren said:
Hey - everyone makes a bad movie sometimes. Spidey 1 and 2 were SO good that I have hopes for 4. And since Marvel's success with the "Maybe we shouldn't totally rewrite the original story" thing I am willing to bet we'll see a stronger adherence to "canon".
At least I hope so. :(
Geoff said:
It's not Toby's fault that the Spidey scripts script him as unfunny - he only works with what he's given, and does a good job with that.
But it would be nice if they tossed in some of the jokes from the Spectacular Spidey animated series - for all my complaints about that show's 22-minute fights, at least they know that Spidey has to be funny in them. Rami never seems to want to go in that direction, which is odd.
Another plausible reason for the reappearance: can anyone else say "flashback?" C'mon, this is Spidey we're talking about - the guy can't get dental work done without going into a three-page flashback to Gwen Stacy's death.
Jeff said:
Bruce Campbell should play the Chameleon. Give reason to all his random cameos AND make re-watching the movies supercool.
Nick said:
Whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Why would you insult The Governator as Mr. Freeze?
He is the ONLY reason I will ever watch Batman & Robin when it's on. Him and Alicia Silverstone were the only parts of the movie that were worth watching :P
ZeroCorpse said:
Agreed on Campbell as Chameleon... Hell, I think most fanboys want that. It would be perfection. Bruce has yet to play a true villain, and this would be a great way to get some more exposure for The Man With The Chin.
Evil Monkey Pope said:
Bruce Campbell as Mysterio would be awesomer.
I still think that Whiplash costume is retarded. The whip handles aren't long enough for him to wield them dexterously. Plus, he's holding electrified whips whips with his bare hands! Wouldn't you at least put on an insulated bodysuit with gloves when you're using that kind of weapon? He'll take himself out of the picture well before iron man shows up with such little protection.
I would've preferred someone like Ghost or Living Laser since Whiplash = Crimson Dynamo = Omega Red.
grounds for cohorts said:
a guy with whips sounds pretty lame as a villian against iron man. iron man can handzap him from afar or shoot those cool little multi-targeting missiles from his shoulders.
when i-man's got weapons like these, he's either going to be dumbed down to make it a fair fight, or those whips are gunna shoot stuff--which still doesn't seem enuf.
where's mandarin? a chinese dude with a fu manchu and superpowered rings would totally be believable. (uhh, that was sarcasm, but I WOULD believe it. really.)
pumpkinguts said:
I agree with grounds, The Mandarin is the number 1 Iron Man villian imagine him and a kick ass CG Fin Fang Foom.
ZeroCorpse said:
What do you want to bet that they save Mandarin for the first Avengers movie?
This thread does bring up a good point, though: Iron Man has to have the WORST rogues' gallery of mainstream Marvel heroes. Most of them are just other guys wearing high-tech armor (Crimson Dynamo, Iron Monger, Titanium Man, Whiplash, Stilt-Man, Ghost, etc.)
And then there's Mandarin; The Ras Al Ghul of Iron Man lore.
I suppose Victor Von Doom is cool when he's an adversary to Stark (even though he's usually the FF's main baddie), but sadly, he's not going to be anywhere near the Marvel Studios movies until the FF's film rights revert back to Marvel. And we all KNOW that they fucking WASTED Dr. Doom in the Fantastic Four movies.
Best villain in the Marvel Universe, and they screw him up royally.
As for the other Avengers, you know Ant Man will start off with Ultron as the villain. You know Captain America will begin by facing off against the Red Skull. You know Thor will be dealing with Loki. You know the next Hulk flick will have greenie facing off against Absorbing Man or The Leader (hell, we saw his origin in the first one). And you know the Black Widow won't even get her own movie because Scarlett Hojansson can't act her way out of a paper bag.
What they really need is to get the Vision and Scarlett Witch in there somehow... and by the way, they really should have had Scarlett Johansson play Wanda rather than Natasha.
Bigman said:
They just finished a flying scene at Downey studios last week for Ironman 2 Spoiler?
