If you told me the remake of Ed Wood's seminally horrible Plan 9 from Outer Space might not be that bad, I'd have hit you. Inevitably, I would have caused more damage to myself, and you'd have hit me back, far more successfully, and I'd have instantly crumpled to the ground, crying. But that's neither here nor there. Because the teaser trailer for Plan 9 (that's the name of the remake) has come out and maybe I'm just losing my edge, but I think I dig it.
Normally, these remakes of crappy '50s B-movies (Ed Wood aside) is that they're played too straight and are those just as dull as the originals, or played too much for laughs, and aren't funny, and are dull in a whole new way than the original. This... this is somehow good and terrible at the same time. Really, I feel like these guys are making the movie Ed Wood saw in his head when he was making Plan 9 from Outer Space. That doesn't mean it'll have a coherent plot, decent dialogue or even be a good movie, but it might have all the horror and suspense and drama that Wood thought he was packing into each of Plan 9's single takes. It's a very line, but I think these guys might pull it off. We'll see. IN THE FUTURE.
Comments
AfterGlow said:
Well, I suppose the whole "aliens using zombies to conquer earth"-concept actually could make a pretty decent movie, even if Ed Wood failed miserably.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 05:29:42 PM
Wyngarde said:
Fast Zombies? C'mon. Nothing says "Extra" like an extra in make-up running around.
I really want this to be good, I really do, but fast zombies are stupid and the people that like them make bad movies. Please prove me wrong, I really want to be wrong...
Posted 09/09/2009 at 05:33:23 PM
demoncat said:
this just shows nothing is so bad that even hollywood will not touch to remake. that and they are getting to the bottom of the barrel by going for plan 9. and no doubt the rif rax crew is already figureing out when they can get their hands on the thing to mock
Posted 09/09/2009 at 05:39:48 PM
Anonymous said:
Looks like a remarkably generic zombie film. What a shame. Hopefully the leader of the invasion is still an unbelievable flamer.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 06:24:08 PM
ClancyDamon said:
I want to like this. The trailer looks promising. But the even if the concept was fairly original when Ed Wood did it, it's been played to death by now. This looks like it's going to try and play the whole thing straight, and I just don't think it'll work. The whole reason Plan 9 is so wildly entertaining (even without riffing) is because it tries so hard, comes off so earnestly, and fails on every level. I don't think you can willingly create that, and if you remove that you aren't left with much.
Still, I wouldn't mind seeing this when it comes out.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 07:09:55 PM
AfterGlow said:
Wyngarde, "Please prove me wrong, I really want to be wrong..."
28 Days Later is still the best damn Zombie-movie ever made.
Running zombies are scary, there's nothing in the least bit frightening about something moving with the speed of a senior citizen.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 07:37:10 PM
Dok Industrial said:
to me, remaking the worst movie in history is the cinematic equivalent of challenging the gold medal sprinter at the special olympics to a footrace...even if you win, you lose.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 07:44:13 PM
Chelsea said:
I agree with AfterGlow about 28 Days Later, but the zombies in that technically weren't zombies at all. Just living humans that were infected with blind rage.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 08:08:55 PM
Wings (Caffeinated Joe) said:
I don't know... It looks like this might just be crap-crap and not hahahaha-crap.
Hope it improves during filming.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 08:27:49 PM
Amanduh said:
Anyone who thinks Plan 9 is the worst movie in the world clearly hasn't seen Manos: The Hands of Fate. But I have to admit, I've kind of wanted to see a remake of Manos. Not a "reimagining", where pretty much everything is changed but the title, but a straight remake. It would be fascinating to see if someone could actually make it INTERESTING.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 08:51:50 PM
CChaos said:
Think of it this way: if Hollywood even fails to make Plan 9 From Outer Space into higher tech amusing camp, then I think we can all safely say that they are a lost cause.
Screwing up Plan 9 would just be...is that even possible?
Posted 09/09/2009 at 08:52:36 PM
RageTreb said:
I was iffy until I saw the text at the end. If they're doing it as a celebration of Ed Wood, I can dig it. As long as they're not trying to make a better one, just trying paying homage to Wood, I want to see it.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 10:11:22 PM
yappy said:
What a crock of shit. This isn't a remake of Plan 9, it's a remake of the crap-fest Dawn of the Dead remake.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 10:17:04 PM
Lithroe said:
@ All about 28 Days Later
I enjoyed that movie too, but it wasn't a Zombie movie. I love zombie films, but people forget that it was not a zombie film. They were neither Voodoo nor Undead. They were people who had lost their minds to uncontrolled rage, but were not in a zombie like state.
Posted 09/09/2009 at 11:05:58 PM
OM said:
...Holy frack. This *might* not only work, it could usher in a new era of remaking 50's B-Movies into semi-serious flicks. Imagine real stinkers like This Is Not A Test or Manos done this way?
Shit, we could even get Howard the Duck redone in such a way that poor Steve Gerber won't turn over in his grave...
Posted 09/09/2009 at 11:06:22 PM
Furious Badsex said:
How do you shit all over Avatar but PRACTICLY GIVE A BLOWJOB TO A PLAN 9 REMAKE!?!?!
"Really, I feel like these guys are making the movie Ed Wood saw in his head when he was making Plan 9 from Outer Space."
These are not the words of a rational man.
Are you lactating?
Posted 09/10/2009 at 12:06:58 AM
Wyngarde said:
"28 Days Later" was one of the worst movies I ever saw. Yep. I said it. Whiny emo fest. Thank God "Shaun Of The Dead" came out to erase that experience.
Running zombies would fall apart. It's the over whelming numbers that's the scary part. You have 8 bullets and 43 zombies, good luck. How fast can you get the door open? They don't stop. You may get past the first batch, but over the hill is a ton more.
There's no acting in running. It looks terrible and laughable, especially when the have to slow themselves down to not knock over the actor they are chasing. It's not scary either. (Loved in "Dawn Of The Dead" re-make how they were fast everywhere, but on the stairs, they slowed down, but sped up again when the heroes got door open!) It's like being at a Haunted House run by boy scouts.
Zombie means "Sleep Walker", not "Sleeping athlete".
Posted 09/10/2009 at 01:04:28 AM
Jambo said:
And so the eternal nerd battle of running zombies vs shuffling zombies continues.
I vastly prefer running zombies when they're done right (like the 28 movies) -
a) much scarier
b) zombies run cause they can't feel themselves getting tired, sore, etc
c) shuffling zombies aren't threatening - at all. You could walk away from them. You could even stand still and you'd probably still outpace them.
It's impossible to go back to being scared by the sad old shuffling brain-eaters after the frantic and frightening infected from 28 Days Later.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 03:56:35 AM
Photoboy said:
Nice to see they're carrying on Ed Wood's legacy by having a man with long grey hair suddenly replaced with a stuntman with short black hair when he's dragged into the bushes. He puts his arm over his face like Lugosi's stand-in! ;)
Posted 09/10/2009 at 04:31:44 AM
Jambo said:
Yeh they lost me after the dodgy bush-dragging "aaaargh" bit.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 07:12:19 AM
Greg said:
I love Ed Wood for all he was. This trailer looked like some pile of crap put together by the high school drama club over summer vacation.
And zombies are fast until they are slow. Fresh dead move a lot faster than those with atrophied muscles and rotting bits.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 08:14:36 AM
AfterGlow said:
"It's the over whelming numbers that's the scary part. You have 8 bullets and 43 zombies, good luck. How fast can you get the door open? They don't stop. You may get past the first batch, but over the hill is a ton more."
Yes, and it's the exact same scenario with running zombies, except a lot scarier since you know, they run.
It's just like the opening of 28 Weeks Later when Robert Carlyle is trying to outrun a mob of infected, and over the hill another 20 infected joins in on the hunt.
It's the hopelessnes of the entire situation that get's to me, because you know that there's nowhere to run and you will tire far earlier than your pursuers, which scares me on an entirely different level compared to the not so scary "I can always outwalk them as long as I don't get surrounded"-zombies.
Chelsea and Lithro; Yes, I know that they were just infected humans who acted like zombies, but if they can call a person who sparkles in sunlight a vampire, I believe it's ok to refer to the infected as zombies ;)
Posted 09/10/2009 at 08:45:07 AM
Wyngarde said:
When they run at you, you need to keep the movie going. So the characters just get out of the way or finding 'convenient' places to duck into. Over and over again. Lame. No suspense. No survival instinct. (Laying out in an open field sleeping is STUPID, 28 Days Later...)
You stay inside and let them run by. Woo! Scary! There they go! Why aren't they falling apart or rigamortis kicking in? I don't know! It's stupid! Hey! They are gone! What a waste of time.
And the best ones are NEVER about how fast the zombie goes, the best one are about people trying to survive. So when they concentrate on the speed, you know the movies going to be lame. Proof: There's still no GOOD zombie movie with fast zombies. Most films have gone back to the classics.
Another person said it right: It looks like the high school drama club. You also get no variety with running zombies. You have to cast mid-20's people and they all look the same running. Bunch of hip trendy coffee drinkers all died and here they come running! How can something dead have so much co-ordination and control over it's body? Danny Boyle must be around and he hate horror films.
"Infected Humans"...I just want to start punching people when I hear that. Because Danny Boyle is too "above us" to make a "Lowly" Zombie movie...Prick.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 09:42:19 AM
Karma said:
I HATE THIS.
And do you know why? Because this is NOT Plan 9 from Outer Space.
When I see a trailer for a remake of Plan 9...
I want to see nothing but talking and horrible scenes with dialogue that makes no logical sense.
I want to see stock footage used inappropriately.
I want to see awkward day to night transitions in the same scene.
I want to see sets that look like cardboard with shower curtains erected behind them.
I want to see a movie that promises an invasion of zombies that ironically only features 3 total unconvincing and hilariously bad zombies, in the total film.
This has none of those things.
This is not Plan 9. it is nothing like it. This bears no resemblance to Plan 9 OR anything that has made it a cult classic.
And I hate this. The people invloved here have OBVIOUSLY never seen the film that they are intending to remake.
The original Plan 9 From Outer Space was so goofy, it was funny, and so bad that it was enjoyably awesome.
This just seems like a tepid, generic, unremarkable, straight-faced zombie movie and I absoutely cannot stand seeing this. This is an insult to Plan 9... and believe me, for something to actually insult something that bad, takes some work.
But these people have done it. They have made a film which as completely taken all of the expectations people would even go to see this movie for and has shit right all over it, and into the mouths of everyone that made the original the cult classic it is.
This trailer actually has angered me beyond belief. Is truly nothing safe from remakers who absolutely cannot grasp the point of what anyone really wants to see?
It's been said that someone would have to fail PRETTY hard to outfail Plan 9 From Outer Space. Well, congradulations, these people have done that.
But not in any enjoyable way. Or in an entertaining way. Just a boring, stupid, unfunny, and completely missed-the-point sort of way.
GOD, this just proves the collective incompetence of Hollywood when they can't even remake Plan 9 From Outer Space correctly, and actually succeed in making the original look like Citizen fucking Kane. No, not even Plan 9 is safe from a remake that even disappointments on the bare minimum of expectations.
Jesus Christ almighty I have lost all faith in human kind, due to this shit.
FUCK THESE PEOPLE MAKING THIS FILM. FUCK EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM UNTIL THEY DIE FROM ANAL BLEEDING.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 10:15:19 AM
Duck said:
Running zombies are for the unimaginative. Fans of running zombie movies who think it is now the only way to go and represents a greater scare because it is "more extreme" are the same type of people who made things like the Punisher, Wolverine and Venom into superstars and and ushered in the Image school of "X-Treme" comics.
It's all about the genre. Just like the 3 original Alien movies are not exactly horror/sci-fi (but rather Haunted House, Action, then Prison survival movie), the new schools of zombie movie are sub-divided genres. A classic traditional Romero influenced zombie movie is essentially a survival movie, one in which the zombies are incidental. They are more about the studies of human instinct, societies and micro-societies. They analyze human nature and often satirize it. The zombies are terrifying exactly for 2 reasons.
One, they are slow and pathetic but never, ever ending. They give the false sense of hope, the illusion that you can escape and beat them, but like a slow disease that destroys you over time, they will eventually win. That is the fear. You can have temporary sanctuary, but the doom is ever present. That lends itself to an extremely rich genre to play with, because then the people are forced to be studied, analyzed and dissected, like Lord of the Flies.
Two, zombies ARE US. That is the true horror. Not some giant fire breathing monster or super humans, just dead who walk and refuse to die. Fast zombies aren't us, they are super heroes. They are cheetahs. There is no tension, in depth analysis, studying. It is just constant high speed editing, shaky cam action movie stuff. Lots of running, lots of screaming, lots of fast paced gore, no real story or character development.
Slow zombies are cancer, fast zombies are car crashes. A slow story about the horror of a person facing cancer will always be more horror than a person in the middle of a 30 car pile up... to me, at least.
Both genres have a place and sometimes fast zombies are kinda fun in a full-tilt amusement park ride way, but that isn't really a great zombie film. 28 Days Later is, in my opinion, a great film and a fun take on the genre, but no, they aren't zombies. That film is more like Romero's The Crazies. It is a violent riot film about uncontrollable rage, the exact opposite of zombies.
I'm all for the exploration and pushing of the boundaries of the genre (which I sincerely belief is a classic film genre like the Western, Gangster film or Legal Drama, always worthy of a de-constructing or re-imagining as well as a standard classic take), but when someone says "How can I be scared of slow zombies after seeing running zombies", I think their taste in war films would be to watch Rambo or Commando over The Deer Hunter or Apocalypse Now.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 10:45:31 AM
Duck said:
Karma, I think you are the one who doesn't get it. You can't intentionally make a cult film, it has to happen by accident. Plan 9 took 30 years to become a cult film and most "fans" of it treat it like a cult film because they think they are supposed to. If you weren't already predisposed into thinking Plan 9 was a legendary "worst film ever made", you would probably watch it and then turn it off after 10 minutes thinking it was just another inept poorly made sci-fi film from the 50s.
So the reverence for the source is mostly manufactured. But there is some sincere reverence, and I think these guys have some of that. They probably thought, "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to actually try and make Plan 9 with some production values and maybe try and see what Wood could have done if he had any talent, money or technology?" Maybe that is an already a doomed exercise, but still a fun one to try and one in which I'm sure they a sincere. This is no big-budget Tim Burton "homage", this looks like a modern day fly by night low budget company just having fun with a film I'm sure they love as much as you believe you love Plan 9.
If they intentionally tried to make it bad, as you've suggested you want to see, it would be idiotic. You can't intentional make "bad" and have it be "so bad it's good". That would be trite, calculated and stupid. So, they tried to make something with a modern flavor, an understanding of the source (that isn't anything to protect and revere like Citizen Kane or the Godfather or something) and a fun nod to the 50's.
No offense, but simply based on the trailer and from your post, I'd venture to say those guys "get" Plan 9 way better than you do, in my opinion. Seriously, though, no offense.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 11:00:31 AM
JayWicky said:
This is so incredibly stupid.
It's like stupid has a brand new dick made out of bionics to fuck our collective brains with it.
There was another 60s flick in which aliens possessed dead bodies to invade the world. It's called Invisible Invaders. Look it up. It's no NOTLD, but it's a reasonable well-made B-movie and it could use the media shot in the arm that a remake would provide, because nobody remembers that flick except for me (and you, the person reading now who remembers it).
But Plan 9 doesn't need that shit. Everybody knows Plan 9. Plan 9 is an icon and it's OK on its own, with its camp and its Tor Johnson and its Vampira and its fake Bela Lugosi. That's what made Plan 9 different. The very fact that it's a bad movie is part of the mystique. "Redo it better", the basic motto of a remake, is more absurd than ever in this particular case. If anything, they should try to re-do it worse.
I mean fuck that oh-so-clever use of Criswell's monologue on the radio. If it doesn't have people dressed like Dracula and Elvira's granny or a big fat bald Swedish wrestler, that's no Plan 9. That's generic zombie movie #6306184.
Whatever.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 11:33:45 AM
Name, indeed said:
This actually reminded me of the Invaders From Mars remake back in the 80's. It retained just the right amount of camp from the original and still was (for my 15YO self) pretty suspenseful.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 12:30:24 PM
tvtastegood said:
Slow zombies all the way!!! Its knowing that the dead out number the living ten thousand to one and that people have to figure out 1) how to survive. 2) come to grips with the reality and hoplessness of the situation and most of all 3) how to work together. People can't work as a team. Everyone has a way to survive etc.
The best zombie flick made recently is Diary of the Dead. It mixes great cinematography with decent charecters camp and story.
As for plan 9 I will see it because ed wood made a terrible flick and these guys want to pay homage so I'm game.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 02:31:58 PM
Yaanu said:
From my FilmSchoolRejects comment:
All I can say is...
...
Michael Bay. That's all I can say about this thing.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 06:32:59 PM
davelog said:
Y'know, I've eaten in a lot of italian restaurants. Some of them have been exquisite, with a rich menu of savory delights, freshly-made pastas complimented with hearty bolognese that's been simmering all day building depth and character.
And sometimes, I just want Spaghettios out of the can, over the sink. You can gussy up Spaghettios all you want, but it's never as good as it is right out of the can.
Plan 9 From Outer Space is that can of Spaghettios. Sure, you can get a plate of heaven at Paesano's, but when you want to shovel up that cold can while staring blankly at the electric clock, nothing else will fill that role.
You don't even attempt to remake base classics like Spaghettios. Or any of Ed Woods' masterpieces. Stop it, please.
Posted 09/10/2009 at 11:15:36 PM
turkish spock said:
I dunno, looks like a pretty generic zombie movie to me, and I'm so zombied-out right now that even an exceptional-looking zombie film would have to work hard to get me interested.
As for all this making the movie that Ed Wood saw in his head business, I say no. For one thing, I'm pretty sure that Ed's head didn't have a generic zombie film of the kind that wouldn't be made for another 40 years or so in it. Also, Ed's head was clearly a strange place, what with Glen or Glenda? coming from there and all. Point is, I firmly believe Ed Wood made the movie that he saw in his head, and I salute him for it.
Posted 09/11/2009 at 12:38:22 PM
Reis O'Brien said:
This is a fucking joke, right? It looked horrible! And not in that meant-to-look-horrible kind of way. Seriously, this is a piece of shit. I'm calling it, right here and now.
Posted 09/16/2009 at 01:22:14 AM






