No, obviously not the Sci-Fi/Syfy TV series, and not the rumored movie from Bryan Singer. Apparently, Richard Hatch -- a.k.a. Original Recipe Apollo -- tried to get his own Battlestar Galactica relaunch off the ground and on the air in 1999. It was going to be subtitled The Second Coming, would've been a continuation of the original BSG series and would have starred him as Apoolo, natch. I don't know how Show Me Sci-Fi found this four-minute trailer for the project, but man, it is 1999-eriffic as hell. And for you many nerds who loathe the recent BSG, this should make you cry tears of ecstasy -- then tears of agony, seeing as the project went nowhere.
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Ok.. Let's say you are a Star Wars fan, (and I will assume most of you are…) Now! Let's say I want to re-imagine Star Wars. Let's say I'm not exactly happy with the lack of female main characters in the original, and we will remake Han Solo into Hana Solo… and we will make it a darker, more mature vision, so we will have Chewabaka rape Luke, and then eat him… Now do some of you understand why we didn't exactly appreciate the new Battlestar Galactica? I am really not sure I can make this any more clear. Some things can be updated, but some things should have been left alone! (Like the original show's cast of characters and their sense of family, and especially their theme of HOPE!!!) I am not saying that the new show was entirely bad.. but it was such a huge departure in theme, tone, and characters, from the original that it perhaps would have been better to have made it a completely separate identity. The way they did it just feel cheap in that they obviously rode on the pre-existing fan base to launch their own idea. That is all…
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Wow.....I never knew there were this many fans of the old BSG. Are all these people posting from a retirement home? LOL. Sorry, but I'll take New Galactica (and Caprica! YAY!) any day of the week and twice on Sundays over the archaic POS that was the original series. Yuck.
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Whatever happened to all that money Hatch won on "Survivor", anyway? Seems like that should have covered this with a little to spare.
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Oh... so Richard Hatch is actually an alcoholic? Ah, that explains a lot. Thanks for clearing this up. God. You haters of the new BSG ramble on, and then you all probably wander off to your nerd dens, where you pound it to photos of Katee Sackhoff (or Jamie Bamber... whatever.) Who fucking cares anyway? The real crime is that no one has tried to resurrect Gil Gerard for a Buck Rogers re-imagining. "Bidi-bidi-bidi... what's the fucking deal Buck?"
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As someone that worked on Richard's trailer, I'd remind some of you about the following: The entire project was done out of pocket... namely Richard's own funds. He racked up some serious credit card debt as a result. Some of the production was done with volunteers. People came from all over to help with everything from costumes to special f/x. Actors volunteered their time without pay. Academy award winner Dean Cundey brought his own equipment, his own film stock and volunteered his cinematography skills. Richard traveled extensively, again sometimes out of pocket, sometimes as part of a convention appearance, to promote his ideas. He had a webmaster who did an incredible job promoting and communicating with fans. He had other web sites join together to help promote his production. And for those that think "THAT WAS A VIDEO GAME TRAILER" then try reading Richard's BSG books. The first two were the template for what we might have seen onscreen if it was produced. Richard advanced the original BSG into something intelligent, nostalgic, yet very exciting. Like the article's author wrote, this should make you cry tears of ecstasy -- then tears of agony, seeing as the project went nowhere. And Richard was no traitor about jumping into Ron Moore's craptastic BSG show. The man has to eat like the rest of us. I think it helped him to pay off those bills, too.
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I thought it looked pretty sweet, except for those godawful helmets. And some bad acting by Hatch, who proved he CAN act well in the new series. But what's with all the repeated comments?
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Excuse me, got to change my shorts. DAMN.
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<i>Humans are the center of universe with a god watching all, what a medieval concept.</i> Medieval is awesome.
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I loved the original show. This would have been better than what we got. The new series is best watched by watching the first episode, then the last, and boom, done. What surprises me is how much of this trailer, the new show stole. The cylon civil war, the evolution of cylons etc.
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This BSG looks like the bees knees! I'd like to know what happened to Dirk Benedict's Starbuck. Also, Boxey and Muffit. And also a cameo (in photograph form) of Jane Seymour's Serina. I LOVED BSG when I was a kid. LOVED IT! One of the greatest bits of opening music as well.
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Jeezum Crow! I want my 4 minutes back.
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Moore's BSG had more boring, pointless episodes per week than Lost. It's probably too expensive to expect exciting space battles in a sci-fi war epic EVERY episode, but couldn't they at least have SOMETHING interesting happen to their characters from time to time? Ego-trip or not, at least this version looked like it might have promised some degree of action and suspense. Plus, no ridiculous space battle "shaky-cam", which for that reason alone gets my thumbs-up.
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This had me at Richard Lynch.
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This looks fucking awful. We definitely got the better show.
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Anyone who thinks this series would have become anything but an ego-trip for Richard Hatch is deluding themselves. Look at that video ffs, he ran away from an exploding planet!
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"BSG is not about the supernatural. It's science fiction, not fantasy." Yeah, it's not like the whole concept was loosely based on Mormon theology or anything.
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Now that Sackhoff has completely silenced the whinging of old BSG fans about female Starbuck they have to resort to vague complaints about "religious mumbo-jumbo". Guess what? Both series are based on mormonism and if anybody gave enough of a shit about your show back in the 70s to watch it, it would've expounded upon the exact same themes.
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On the awesome side: John Colicos as Baltar! Ship of Lights! The Evil Time Travelling Guy that gave the Nazis Rocket Technology! Lorne Greene as the Ghost of Obi-Wan Kenobi! On the lame side: No Hot Maren Jensen :( Lorne Greene as the Ghost of Obi-Wan Kenobi :(
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Richard Hatch = bad actor. However, the idea looked ok in a trailer. I am almost 100% certain though that as a whole, the project would suck, just as horribly as the original series. There was a few aspects of that trailer that can be seen in the latest Battlestar though, which proves that Moore (yes all you bloodsucking old head purists) did "know what BSG was all about" (some goon said this earlier). And to the person who said BSG is SCI-FI and SCI-FI only. I agree with the first part of your statement; however, when this show was re-imagined (note this word), it was sold to quality actors and writers (for TV) as a human drama set in outer space. Without this idea, Battlestar never comes into re-fruition; letting your old ass, lame, cheap, star wars rip off show die a well deserved awful death and never reappear in the 2000s...
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@ Coward hiding behind the name Anonymous: //You can all call Richard Hatch an asshole and bastard all you want, but at least he knows what BSG is all about.// Uh, you do realize Richard Hatch became a major recurring character on the new BSG, right? Seriously, fuck the bitching about the two shows. One was bad most of the way through and ended on an ok note. One was good 90% of the way through and ended badly. There's plenty wrong with both.
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...On the other hand, a reimaging *can* be a good thing. This week, Dynamite released a reimaging of <I>Galactica 1980</i> that actually turns the much-derided TV mistake into something that actually fracking *works*. The art may be hit or miss, as are all of Dynamite's licensed properties, but the story proves that if you know what you're doing, you *can* polish a turd.
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Richard Hatch = bad actor. However, the idea looked ok in a trailer. I am almost 100% certain though that as a whole, the project would suck, just as horribly as the original series. There was a few aspects of that trailer that can be seen in the latest Battlestar though, which proves that Moore (yes all you bloodsucking old head purists) did "know what BSG was all about" (some goon said this earlier). And to the person who said BSG is SCI-FI and SCI-FI only. I agree with the first part of your statement; however, when this show was re-imagined (note this word), it was sold to quality actors and writers (for TV) as a human drama set in outer space. Without this idea, Battlestar never comes into re-fruition; letting your old ass, lame, cheap, star wars rip off show die a well deserved awful death and never reappear in the 2000s...
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Religion has long been used in Science Fiction stories. As Matt brilliantly pointed out regarding the Mormon connection with BSG. The Matrix, Star Wars, Babylon 5, Superman, Star Trek, etc. (I'm sure there are more obvious ones) are examples of this. As for a bad ending, still wasn't as bad as the ending to Babylon 5's shadow war saga?
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On the awesome side: John Colicos as Baltar! Ship of Lights! The Evil Time Travelling Guy that gave the Nazis Rocket Technology! Lorne Greene as the Ghost of Obi-Wan Kenobi! On the lame side: No Hot Maren Jensen :( Lorne Greene as the Ghost of Obi-Wan Kenobi :(
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...On the other hand, a reimaging *can* be a good thing. This week, Dynamite released a reimaging of <I>Galactica 1980</i> that actually turns the much-derided TV mistake into something that actually fracking *works*. The art may be hit or miss, as are all of Dynamite's licensed properties, but the story proves that if you know what you're doing, you *can* polish a turd.
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clearly this and bryan singer's "thing" would have been and will be superior to the 4 year series that just finished sarcasm
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"That looks like Battlestar Galactica meets Wing Commander 3. The whole thing reeks of videogame FMV cutscenes." Of course it reeks of videogame FMV cutscenes. Chances are that Richard Hatch paid for it out of his own pocket and cobbled it together with whatever he could afford. Many video pitches that are presented to various studios are of a similar quality. They are more about presenting the story idea and less about impressing people with special effects.
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Wow. People think this looks good? Just by the trailer, I can tell the show would've lasted about half a season before getting the plug pulled. As bad as the ending was for Moore's re imagining, that show was still the best drama this decade besides The Shield. Sorry, this just looks like it would've been the butt of so many jokes.
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I love reading stuff that slams the new BSG in favor of the old BSG, especially since I'm watching the original series on Hulu. It was a cheesy as hell show, get over yourselves. Maybe it gets better eventually, but I'm two episodes in and trying not to tear my eyes out. New BSG instantly trumps Old BSG by not having retarded language like yahren, centon, and golmonging. It also didn't have a stupid monkey in a suit (which instantly kills any Old BSG credibility, as far as I'm concerned). Also, whoever decided to have ancient Egyptians design the pilot helmets for the original BSG (and repeated here) should be shot.
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I love reading stuff that slams the new BSG in favor of the old BSG, especially since I'm watching the original series on Hulu. It was a cheesy as hell show, get over yourselves. Maybe it gets better eventually, but I'm two episodes in and trying not to tear my eyes out. New BSG instantly trumps Old BSG by not having retarded language like yahren, centon, and golmonging. It also didn't have a stupid monkey in a suit (which instantly kills any Old BSG credibility, as far as I'm concerned). Also, whoever decided to have ancient Egyptians design the pilot helmets for the original BSG (and repeated here) should be shot.
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I think Moore should have just made the final five EVIL sleeper agents. It was a fantastic military show then devolved into rainbows, unicorns, and classic rock. The emphasis on the final cylon models was not the most interesting aspect of the show. The tense us vs them and finding a suitable home were far more fascinating factors. Cuz that stuff was all character driven. Plus you know it got bad when there was that episode where Anders was lucid and explaining the origins of the final five to the others. So after the commercial break you had one character (Tyrol) explaining to the others what another character (anders) had just said. So dissappointing.
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"BSG is not about the supernatural. It's science fiction, not fantasy." Yeah, it's not like the whole concept was loosely based on Mormon theology or anything.
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I think Moore should have just made the final five EVIL sleeper agents. It was a fantastic military show then devolved into rainbows, unicorns, and classic rock. The emphasis on the final cylon models was not the most interesting aspect of the show. The tense us vs them and finding a suitable home were far more fascinating factors. Cuz that stuff was all character driven. Plus you know it got bad when there was that episode where Anders was lucid and explaining the origins of the final five to the others. So after the commercial break you had one character (Tyrol) explaining to the others what another character (anders) had just said. So dissappointing.
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I'm an unapologetic fan of Moore's BSG, but I'll agree that for what it is, this has the look of an ambitious sequel. I'd have watched at least a miniseries. But an ongoing series would have been very difficult to maintain for as long as Moore's ran. Reason: just like the original series, you can't come up with good stories for long about villains with no more motive than being inherently evil. Even after one season, Larson was scrambling to find deeper challenges for his heroes. Best part: the tiny cameo of the Ship of Lights at 2:43.
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I would like this to have been made, and rolled with the hologram Lorne Greene, eventually they'd run out of BSG footage and resort to Bonzana clips, not explaining why Adama used to dress like a cowboy. NuBSG promoted itself as science fiction with real world allegory, NO SPACE MONSTERS/ALIENS (because Eddie James Olmos is above that sort of thing and would quit). Then it winds up GOD DID IT. THERE'S A PLANET OF HUMANS JUST LIKE US. Yeah, no alien life...not even an alien insect...but humans out there and humans here. Humans are the center of universe with a god watching all, what a medieval concept.
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Actually, ZeroCorpse, BSG is space opera so there's a little more room to introduce less scientific elements. But whatever, I agree that Moore's whole "this series was brought to you by the letter G, the number 7, and our Heavenly Father" ending was maddeningly awful. I nerdraged harder than an aspergers kid losing his favorite MtG card.
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The inclusion of John Colicos (and Maren Jensen?) automatically makes this about a billion times better than EMOBSG.
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New BSG is poor a whole host of reasons. The fact that for every decision or action a character makes I could write down a hundred reasons why it wasn't a rational or "realistic" choice to make. How many times in BSG does someone not tell somebody else a vital piece of information, seemingly only to spread out the plot to fill the number of episode that have been ordered. Why do people in the fleet get so pissy about Galactica and what Galactica does? WHY DOES NO ONE REALISE THEY ARE FUCKED WITHOUT GALACTICA??? And where are they going? Episode after episode the fleet is seemingly just floating around aimlessly. No one pipes up "we're heading here for reason X". No they just float around and then some Cylons show up. argh!
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always wondered if footage existied of richard hatchs long talked about and never happen revil of BSG and now saw it .
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Exactly. BSG is not about the supernatural. It's science fiction, not fantasy. I don't need some mysterious guiding hand driving the characters to the ending and then fixing everything for them in the blink of an eye. I *really* don't need whole plot points dropped or dismissed so carelessly. Personally, I think Moore painted himself into a corner and couldn't get out, so he whipped out the "omnipotent solution" to end the series and then go cash his checks. And they have the audacity to sell the whole series in a high-priced box set? Seriously, screw SciFi and Moore. They won't see a dime from me for BSG merchandise.
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If it left out the religious mumbo-jumbo that infected the recent series, then it's guaranteed it would have been 100% better.
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Wow, that is pretty bad... and far from the so bad it's good variety. The original belongs in its campy place in the 70's. The newer version blew it away.
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There should really be a spoiler warning on this post. That is the last time I watch a video before reading the article.
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I believe the correct question is: "You think if Ritchard Hatch didn't like eating and paying the rent he would have guest stared then taken a recurring role?"
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Waaaaaaahhhh. New BSG isn't like the old BSG... BooFuckingHoo You think if Ritchard Hatch didn't like the remake he would have guest stared then taken a recurring role? Get over your selves.
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People hate the new BSG? Silly people! BTW Rob, I like how your 404 page asks WHOSE RESPONSIBLE THIS? LULZ!
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Wow, with this history of awesomeness, it's shocking that the BSG reboot had such a hard time attracting a mainstream audience....
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I grew up on Battlestar Galactica (like many here) and didn't understand just how campy it could be. While I liked the SciFi retool (I'm really a big fan of darker imaginings), this is something I would have watched the hell out of. Almost looks like it was taking itself seriously. Richard Hatch needs to be admired for his love of the concept and for doing his damnedest to keep it on peoples' radars all these many years. Shoulda been made.
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I thought this was awesome, myself. It's a shame it'll never happen now, in particular since John Colicos is now dead. He was the best Baltar.
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Let me just say that I am looking forward to monkey suit Daggit.
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Let me just say that I am looking forward to monkey suit Daggit.
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And this is how the sequel to BSG should have been. Not that ScyFy Channel garbage so many here seem to love. You can all call Richard Hatch an asshole and bastard all you want, but at least he knows what BSG is all about. I saw this posted on BattlestarGalactica.com about 4 years ago and wanted to see more of it. I especially liked the virtual Lorne Greene version of Commander Adama on this. Now go ahead and rip me a new ass, as I know so many of you will. I just hope to God that the movie goes back to it's real roots and forgets about the newer BSG series all together. Including the monkey suit Daggit!
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@ ZeroCorpse - that's assuming the Singer project goes anywhere. Doubtful that it will. So, to stem the inevitable whining and bitching and cries of "AT LEAST IT'S NOT EMOBSG", I would sure as hell have loved to see this.
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And yet it would be a vast improvement if it didn't shit on the fans by saying it was God all alone, or falling back on any sort of "it's magic, we don't have to explain it" kind of ending. Looking forward to the Singer project. Fuck Moore. He pissed me off with that cop-out ending.
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That looks like Battlestar Galactica meets Wing Commander 3. The whole thing reeks of videogame FMV cutscenes.
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