But what is new -- by which I mean old -- by which I mean this almost happened a long time ago but was just mentioned by James Cameron in his recent interview with 60 Minutes -- is that Fox wanted noted football player and murderer O.J. Simpson in the role of the original Terminator. Holy fucking shit. I'm not even counting the fact that we may not have been blessed with Arnold Schwarzenegger's career, although that's to horrible to even think about. But can you imagine watching The Terminator now if the role had gone to Simpson? It's bad enough watching him in The Naked Gun movies, but watching him stalk and attempt to murder a scared innocent woman? AWKWARD. FilmDrunk has the 60 Minutes interview video, but why you would willingly want to watch 60 Minutes is beyond me.
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Gaith said:
Dude... this has been common knowledge for years. We may have to fine you a cool five nerd points for only discovering this now. ;)
As for watching 60 Minutes... if there's nothing geeky about being an informed citizen, I might not be a geek, then.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:09:39 PM
ZeroCorpse replied to Gaith:
Hate to agree, but yeah... Old news, Rob.
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The best part of it is that they turned down OJ Simpson in the end because he "wasn't menacing enough." or something like that. Basically, they said they didn't believe America would buy him as a mass murderer because he was such a nice guy!
Posted 11/24/2009 at 06:25:10 PM
Tom Robin said:
usually, the Lucas bashing begins after de seeing of the ENTIRE movie.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:17:40 PM
Monkey boy said:
Yeah seriously did this website just take me back in time to 1998? This is almost unforgivably old news that has long been imdb trivia fodder for th better part of my life.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:20:51 PM
Duck said:
Lately Bricken, I gotta say, more and more it appears that you are actually disturbingly uninformed in some pretty common pop culture knowledge. Not just this Terminator info, which as has been said is common knowledge for about 15 years, but many things recently. For a guy who runs a geek/pop culture site, you seem woefully uninformed in a lot of areas.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:22:45 PM
easilydissolved said:
Yeah, I remember hearing that a while ago. Not sure where. Here's something I found out that blew me away. Bill Murray was almost Batman in the '89 movie.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:24:49 PM
TED-209 replied to easilydissolved:
This one might not blow any nerd minds, but Jean Claude VanDamme was originally the Predator. He actually wore a prototype costume and did flips in it for test footage.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:35:28 PM
Steve Harrison said:
Maybe I've forgotten parts of Terminator lore, but why would Fox want OJ when Cameron was making the picture for Orion?
I don't really recall Cameron shopping the pitch around, I thought he got the 'in' with Orion due to his work with Corman?
FILM NEERRRRDD
But yeah, I suspect there would have been some problems with the premise...
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:25:14 PM
KateDrinks said:
Yeah i remember this story, the version i heard was that they were going to cast OJ Simpson but they didnt think he would be "believeable" as a murderer... i guess the jury agrees
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:28:35 PM
crooow replied to KateDrinks:
It makes sense. Us old folks remember that prior to O.J. being arrested for murder, he had a carefully crafted public persona as an affable, inoffensive celebrity. He wouldn't have been credible as a ruthless killer. That was what made his arrest all the more shocking. I'll say this much-he was a good actor.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:08:25 PM
FernGulleyHaloSmurf said:
Seriously, everybody knows that in addition to OJ being cast as T-800, Arnold was originally considered for the role of Reese.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:29:50 PM
NerdRage said:
Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me but it appears he lost his gun :30-:32 when he falls down and has it again when running.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:47:41 PM
NerdRage said:
check that, it doesn't seem he has it again until he slides under the tree.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:51:34 PM
Hawkman said:
Who cares? That clip was teh awesome! That dino-avatar was chasing that one avatar. And it was trying to eat that blue avatar, but the blue avatar hid in a tree. The din-avatar was pissed about that, and it only wanted eat that other avatar even more. Then the one avatar tried to shoot the other avatar, but that didn't go very well. Then the avatars chased each other some more until the blue avatar jumped into some avatarian river. As the one avatar clung to an avatar branch in the river the other avatar was back on the cliff roaring, "AVATAAAAR!!!"
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:53:58 PM
This is currently my favorite TR comment ever.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:30:11 PM
JimmyZappa said:
That was quite an entertaining clip. I have a renewed sense of optimism for Avatar now.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:55:19 PM
Eponymous said:
Wow, people are turning into rabid wolves everywhere. I forgive TR for not necessarily knowing (or remembering) about OJ and the Terminator. Honestly, it's ringing a bell at best, but I don't explicitly remember reading that factoid before.
The Avatar trailer? Just continues to confirm my prediction that the movie will make, at most, $200 million worldwide and be the end of James Cameron's clout in Hollywood... He had a nice run...
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:18:03 PM
Black Angus said:
It seems Cameron watched another Arnold movie - Predator - and blatantly copied it. There is no suspense in seeing a CGI character being chased by a CGI monster. Crap and I will not go and see this movie.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:20:59 PM
lou-bert vs. q-bert said:
Hey hey hey. OJ was *funny* in the Naken Gun movies!! And if he was the Terminator he'd be funny in that today, since we know what he did.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:24:06 PM
lou-bert vs. q-bert said:
Hey hey hey. OJ was *funny* in the Naken Gun movies!! And if he was the Terminator he'd be funny in that today, since we know what he did.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:25:12 PM
Pj said:
As apparently the only person that learned something new in reading this post (screw you guys, I didn't know about OJ), I wanted to comment and say thanks for the trivia.
And now I'm sure the Nerd Nazis will come down on me, too. :)
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:41:13 PM
JOE said:
My favorite bit of what-a-difference-a-day- makes O.J. trivia is always that early episode of Seinfeld when Elaine wants her boyfriend to change his name because it's the same name as a serial killer and she suggests O.J.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:42:41 PM
DJRM said:
Did anyone else notice that the alien mosnter sound effects were the same sound effects from Jurrasic Park for the dinosaurs?
Seriously listen to the alien monster roar it is exactly the same as the tyrannosaurus rex from Jurrassic Park.
Also i can't remember how to spell Jurasic and i am too lazy to look it up.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:43:35 PM
tvtastegood said:
Well who says you don't learn anything from the web.
As for the trailor. Meh. I will wait for on demand cuz I'm too cheap for netflix
Posted 11/24/2009 at 05:12:23 PM
tvtastegood said:
I forgot to mention this movie has giovanni ribisi in it aka blubbering boy. In every movie he is in he cries, and he is awful at it, he blubbers like a baby and I hate it. Another reason I will not see this movie.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 05:18:25 PM
Chad said:
I don't care what anyone says this looks like a fun, awesome movie.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 05:30:11 PM
CChaos said:
Okay, I've got an open question for people: how many television ads have you seen for Avatar now? Several terrible and lower budget movies, like The Stepfather and SAW VI, ended up getting over a month of advertisements before the movie actually came out.
Avatar comes out on December 18th; that is just a little over three weeks from now. Yet I haven't seen one single ad yet to this point. With how big he wants this to be, they need to get their marketing people to actually DO something it seems, cause word of mouth is only going to go so far. It's a Science Fiction movie and, as such, the odds are already stacked against it because it's a brand new property. If the thing actually took a half a billion dollars to make, one would hope that a little of that would have been spent on advertisement.
Amusing clips with terrible looking aliens and revealing a 'Dances with Wolves in space' plot aside, how do you guys think it's going to do, based completely on how bad their marketing so far has been?
Posted 11/24/2009 at 05:45:40 PM
demoncat said:
old news this just proves even James had ideas that had to be tried to get to what terminator was ment to be for lucas did the same thing with star wars before he got his cast.though one has to wonder why James would consider O.j simpson as a killing robot when he was more part of the lethal weapons series before his true colors emerged
Posted 11/24/2009 at 06:32:52 PM
The Wilson said:
This movie is gonna flop harder then Waterworld. The storyline is the
most cliche thing I have ever seen. Also, the studio says it's "gonna make
a profit." How can it? It seems like the budget is bigger then all of the Star Wars movies box office combined. Avatar is Cameron's Waterloo.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 09:57:58 PM
cocacolaoso said:
But I didn't know about O.J. and The Terminator casting either! Please don't hurt me! Now I have to give back my Nerd Card or something? *COUGH*damnnerdnazies*COUGH*
Posted 11/25/2009 at 12:50:18 AM






