By Rob Bricken in
Movies
Thursday, Nov. 19 2009 @ 11:31AM
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1) You Don't Dream in Cryo...And... there we go. Jake gets an avatar to hunt for resources. Jake falls in love with sexy furry and their simple, nature-loving ways. Humans come to kill the furries, and Jake is torn between the cartoonishly evil humans and the aggrivating noble cat people. Jake fights with the furries. Oh, it's worth mentioning that "I See You" is a tender love ballad, exactly in the vein of Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" from James Cameron's Titanic. Because when you have a movie about a race of aliens who look like a blue Garfield, an overproduced song about love is what you need to pull it all together.
2) Jake Enters His Avatar World
3) Pure Spirits of the Forest
4) The Bioluminescence of the Night
5) Becoming One of the People
6) Climbing Up - Iknimaya - The Path to Heaven
7) Jake's First Flight
8) Scorched Earth
9) Quaritch
10) The Destruction of Hometree
11) Shutting Down Grace's Lab
12) Gathering All the Na'vi Clans for Battle
13) War
14) I See You (Theme from Avatar)
73 comments
Comments
Nicnac said:
this movie is going to be awesome.
James Cameron does not make bad movies.
DoctorSmashy said:
Isn't Leona Lewis (an X-Factor winner) the person who recorded this soundtrack?
As in, Leona "even more annoying than Celine Dion" Lewis?
Beanieson said:
I think south park had it down when they called it "Dances With Smurfs"
WetOREO said:
Yes, James Cameron does not make bad movies...except for Titanic.
Nicnac replied to WetOREO:
regarding Titanic...
I rather pick on junk like Transformers 2, Twilight, etc.
Titanic was epic in scale. It delivered.
Lo Pan said:
Sweet. Now I don't have to see it.
rj472 said:
They put about as much thought into the song titles as they did for Phantom Menace when they named one ***SPOILER ALERT*** "The Noble Death of Qui Gon" on that soundtrack. (Just needed the spoiler warning. Someone would have called me out for ruining Phantom Menace for them. Jar Jar already ruined it for me.)
ZADL said:
So, it's Dances With Furries after all. Just as I thought.
Bill said:
I've said this twice before already, and now I will say it a third time: "I have no desire to see this movie."
Snoodle said:
Anyone know who's doing the rest of the soundtrack?
Boyle said:
Celine Dion-style songs make my heart want to go on. What could be so wrong about that?
zsasz said:
wow..thats the most unimaginative series of song titles ever, suits the film i guess.
and again, everyone i ask who isnt always surfing the net has not even heard of the movie (tho i imagine closer to its release there will be a flood of trailers to inform that lot)
drunken_hopfrog said:
Screw this movie. Trailers look stupid and the CGI technology is not ready for this level of required immersion.
I discuss my thoughts of it at Pop Bunker here: http://www.popbunker.net/2009/08/discuss-perspective-upcoming-motion-picture-avatar/
FireThief said:
Sometimes I hate being a nerd because of this. I like this site, I really do, but man, your completely irrational hatred of this movie is starting to wear on me.
I understand Cameron said something about how this movie would revolutionize filmmaking, and how technology had to catch up with his idea, or something along these lines, but when does a creator/filmmaker not exaggerate their upcoming project in order to generate buzz?
Someone could put together a hilarious clip package of actors and directors talking about their upcoming projects, revealing at the end they're talking about the most horrible crap to be released in a long time.
For me "Avatar" is a sci-fi movie, and if I made the decision not to see a movie due to what the creator(s) said during press time, I'd be skipping a lot.
SpecterM91 replied to FireThief:
I absolutely agree with this. I, too, love the site, but god dammit, we have the most whiny ass community I've ever seen. It doesn't matter what it is, they always bitch about it as if it's the spawn of Ed Wood... Well, no, that isn't true, they praised the Plan 9 remake if I recall. Because fan remakes of one of the worst movies ever have more potential than a scifi movie from the guy behind Aliens and Terminator.
Arcane replied to SpecterM91:
To be fair, you can only go up with a Plan 9 remake.
SpecterM91 replied to Arcane:
Okay, yeah, that's true.
Chew Chew replied to FireThief:
Both of you make valid points, but fuck you anyways.
Just kidding.
Seriously- as self proclaimed Nerds, we tend to be very passionate about our objects of nerdery. Sci-fi movies are high on the list.
When James Cameron, the guy who directed some of our favorite sci-fi movies of all time, announced that after a long-ass break he was going to revolutionize film making with a monster budget, high concept, sci-fi film, we all jizzed our pants a little. More than anything, we want the movie to be great.
Unfortunately, it's looking to be a very predictable plot and the visuals are looking cartoonish and weird. So our passion turns to snark. Which is, I'm sorry to say, the preferred defense mechanism of geeks everywhere.
You hurt us, you betray our trust, you get us excited and let us down, and we'll snark the shit out of you.
Lucas learned this. The Wachowsky siblings learned this. Speilberg learned this. And now it's Cameron's turn.
Don't get me wrong- we're still showing up in droves on opening weekend, hoping to be changed forever by cinematic epicness, but at least we're ready to say "I knew it" if it sucks.
SpiderHyphenMan said:
500 million dollars. This cost 500 million.
WetOREO replied to SpiderHyphenMan:
For 500 Million, we are getting Kitty Cats! Blue Kitty Cats!
JOE said:
I don't think it's irrational when there's hate on this site. I think it's a reasonable reaction. considering 90% of what the entertainment industry produces is total let- down if now just outright crap. Considering the paychecks these filmmakers et all make, considering the inflated bugets on these projects, considering how damn expensive it has become to even buy or watch one of these things, I don't think it's unreasonable for the first response to something like Avatar to be a good couple of groans, especially when it's clear that it is just another reiteration of such a tired, old plot.
I love most of Cameron's old output too, but it doesn't give him a free pass on this, since what he has showed us of it so far looks really weak.
Chew Chew said:
It's missing the track "The Colors of the Wind".
You know, for when John Smith learns about the beauty of the earth and shit.
BeastOfGevaudan said:
It'll be complete bullshit if the Na'vi win with bows and arrows over the humans, which of course they will, which in turn is why I won't pay to see this movie.
SpecterM91 replied to BeastOfGevaudan:
Do I really need to bring the Ewoks up?
James Cameron said:
Reading this thread is like watching a monkey fuck a football. You'll all be in the theater...MARK MY WORDS! YOU'LL ALL BE IN THE FUCKING THEATER!!!!
Nomad replied to James Cameron:
No, we won't be.
Burn the Land said:
What does "FURRIES" refer to? I have seen this reference a ton and I don't get it, it looks like the blue fellas have human like skin (other than the color)
Smurfs works...but furries doesn't make sense since they don't have fur.
DoctorSmashy replied to Burn the Land:
Furries are the subjects are the subject of many a fan fic, because a lot of web-surfers have a kind of infatuation with anthropomorphic animals or something... I don't associate myself with such things (MORAL HIGHGROUND, BEETCHES) but it is referenced a lot on this site, and that's all I've been able to pick up so far. I'm probably wrong, ask your local weirdo for further information.
RobP replied to DoctorSmashy:
That's pretty close, I think. I don't know if it started as an internet thing or not, though. The first time I ever heard of a "furry" was on Late Night with Conan O'brien. From what I can gather, a "furry" is someone who is attracted to and what's to be an anthropomorphic animal-- the kind you find in a lot of Anime/Manga, Fantasy/Sci-Fi, and The Muppets. In order to curb and mollify their innermost desires, they have sex with other "furries" while wearing animal costumes. Or something.
I dunno. That's what I got from Conan.
squidgod2000 replied to RobP:
Yeah, that's about right.
Creepy, isn't it?
vashfanatic replied to RobP:
Not /all/ self-described furries are into the dress-in-costumes-for-sex thing. Not all are even into the porn part of it. Some are just really big into drawing pictures of and writing (non-porn) stories about anthropomorphic animal characters. Lord knows with what we were raised on as children, that's not exactly unexpected. I'm not a furry myself, but I've know people who describe themselves as "furries" and are just as appalled as we are by furry fetishists.
But let's face it: part of Rob's dread of this series is the godawful fanfiction he's going to see because of it. Heck, I bet there's already porn for it just from the trailer. Anyone want to risk a search?
Slust replied to DoctorSmashy:
There is a difference between "furry" and "nekomimi".
Namely which of the two traits are dominant.
Furries is a broad term that is primarily used to describe animals with human traits. (See Talbain of Darkstalkers)
Nekomimi, literally means "cat girl" but can be a broad term for the inverse, humans with animal traits. (See Felicia of Darkstalkers)
I really wish there was something I could say that would discount the immediate suggestion that I am a furry by knowing this...
Arcane replied to Burn the Land:
I think it's a reference to their cat-like faces
TrapJaw said:
Because when you have a movie about a race of aliens who look like a blue Garfield, an overproduced song about love is what you need to pull it all together.
My first exposure to Avatar was a some footage of the chick Na'vi running along. Viewing made me think that the Na'vi looked more like X-Men's Nightcrawler had knocked up Tigra from the Avenger.
Arcane replied to TrapJaw:
better than Tigra from the Thundercats
Tyler said:
I think you're being a little harsh on the film. Not every movie made is unique in it's storytelling. Cameron is getting good at taking classic stories and putting a sci-fi bent on them. I don't mind it but I understand the dissapointment in a film with so much hype. I think it will be good regardless of the lack of originality. I just hope to god every news outlet doesn't start touting it as the second coming in movie making. Maybe in effects, certainly not movie making.
lou-bert vs. q-bert said:
I think this movie will be unoriginal and empty, but still solid entertainment. I couldn't produce anything better, could you?
JOE replied to lou-bert vs. q-bert:
For 500 Million? Hell yes.
Or better yet, make ten lower budget movies that are probably ten times better.
Rob said:
Shockingly, guys, I don't hate the movie. I don't hate James Cameron, either. I think the Terminator films are outstanding (I'm not a big Aliens fan). It's just that Avatar has received a great deal of hype — unlike, say, that Plan 9 remake — but nothing I've seen from it or heard about it excites me. (Also unlike the Plan 9 remake, because that trailer had me pleasantly surprised.)
I'll be watching the movie — mostly to do a review for TR — with an open mind. I may be anticipating more bad than good based on the previews and stuff, but it's James Cameron. He certainly has the potential to make a kick-ass movie.
Did you get that James Cameron/Playboy tip I sent you, Rob?
I realize that James Cameron being interviewed in the magazine is not news (unlike, say, Marge "posing" in Playboy, which I was totally wrong about and you were totally right about). However, I did think Cameron stating that he wants/hopes/knows adolescent males are going to get a stiffy for the lead female Na'vi was pretty mind blowing...
Arcane replied to RobP:
I'd hit it.
I mean, if I were a blue thing too.
cocacolaoso replied to RobP:
So he confirms himself that Avatar is for furries? In playboy? Oh My...
Chris replied to cocacolaoso:
Yeah, he spent five-hundred million dollars to make a niche film for a group of people that aren't even tracked on a national census.
Or could it be that leading actresses are chosen to evoke boners in the male viewing audience? It's just ridiculous to envision an animated version of an actual actress as eliciting the same response?
Lots of fucking morons on this shitty blog-that-thinks-its-a-movie-critic website.
Hmmm... said:
James Horner sure knows how to pick his track titles...wink wink nudge nudge. He's known for having some of the crappiest, most pretentious, and occasionally horribly generic track titles for his albums. Look at these:
Friginator said:
Well, at least they're not getting popular rock bands to sing songs barely related to the movie. I hate that, with very few exceptions.
Xanthippas said:
My friend referred to it as "Dances With Wolves in Space" (you know, white guy hooks up with natives, changes sides, fights for natives, etc., etc.) And what do you know, the Dances with Wolves soundtrack titles kind of give away the game too. I mean, seriously:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dances_with_Wolves_(soundtrack)
"Main Title – Looks Like a Suicide" – 3:59
"The John Dunbar Theme" – 2:16
"Journey to Fort Sedgewick" – 3:25
"Ride to Fort Hays" – 2:00
"The Death of Timmons" – 2:24
"Two Socks – The Wolf Theme" – 1:30
"Pawnee Attack" – 3:49
"Kicking Bird's Gift" – 2:10
"Journey to the Buffalo Killing Ground" – 3:43
"The Buffalo Hunt" – 2:42
"Stands with a Fist Remembers" – 2:09
"The Love Theme" – 3:46
"The John Dunbar Theme" – 2:04
"Two Socks at Play" – 1:59
"The Death of Cisco" – 2:14
"Rescue of Dances with Wolves" – 2:09
"The Loss of the Journal and the Return to Winter Camp" – 2:09
"Farewell and End Title" – 8:50
This is no coincidence, by God.
squidgod2000 said:
Fern Gully meets the Smurfs meets Starship Troopers.
BorgQueen said:
Thanks for saving me 20 bucks! And the problem that I have with this movie, and I am sure many will agree is that you have basically a brilliant director (Alien, Terminator) with a fuckload of money thanks to a giant boat and what does he do with it? He doesn't set out to make the most thought-provoking, intelligent, badass movie ever... he turns all his 500 mil over to computers to make this movie for him! I certainly appreciate the skill that goes into CGI these days, especially to make something that looks as close to life as possible, and CGI definitely has it's place but it seems to me directors nowadays are giving up. No stuntmen, no clever camera tricks, hell no coherent plot even, they just clutter to movie with effects and sit back expecting the unwashed masses to eat it up like a starving man at a buffet. It's insulting and it will continue until the unwashed masses wake the fuck up and vote with their wallets. This movie isn't the only insult here, but when your pompus, king-of-the-world ass take 10 years and FIVE HUNDRED FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS to make a movie, it damn well better be something we have never seen before. Avatar is not it.
You know, for a post being as NERD RAGEy as they come (NERD RAGE being the topic du juor, every day), you actually make a pretty good point about the movie that I hadn't even considered before. You're absolutely right that Cameron could be blowing two decades' worth of goodwill with this movie. Even if he did rip off the story, or even if it was an adaptation, he could still have done something with the material to make it fresh.
Actually, this reminds me of something else in his Playboy interview that I'd forgotten... He says, and I can't quote it because I'm at work still, that Avatar is meant as a film that draws it's inspiration from the past. I'll have to see if I can find the line and post it here. But, if I remember it correctly, he admits to basically what you're saying here-- except he's proud about it.
ZeroCorpse said:
They should have called it "Journey to the Uncanny Valley."
Still, I might see it. I'll kind of feel bad for Cameron if this movie doesn't make a profit.
wingdarkness said:
Rob I can't believe you haven't already referenced the episode of South Park from last week (Nov. 11th), that likened James Cameron AVATAR to ripping the plot of The Smurfs...Funny $hit, u should look for it...
Glass said:
If I was a supporter of this movie, I'd start getting woried. Every bit of news that comes out about this movie just makes it look worse. Whoever's in charge of the marketing should be fired.
Friginator said:
Still, the X-Men 3 Soundtrack was probably the most revealing one I've seen:
1. 20 Years Ago
2. Bathroom Titles
3. The Church of Magneto, Raven is My Slave Name
4. Meet Leech, Then off to the Lake
5. Whirlpool of Love
6. Examining Jean
7. Dark Phoenix
8. Angel's Cure
9. Jean and Logan
10. Dark Phoenix Awakes
11. Rejection is Never Easy
12. Magneto Plots
13. Entering the House
14. Dark Phoenix's Tragedy
15. Farewell to X
16. The Funeral
17. Skating on the Pond
18. Cure Wars
19. Fight in the Woods
20. St. Lupus Day
21. Building Bridges
22. Shock and No Oars
23. Attack on Alcatraz
24. Massacre
25. The Battle of the Cure
26. Phoenix Rises
27. The Last Stand
DoctorSmashy replied to Friginator:
Shock and No Oars? Seriously?
Gleeman said:
It's Sky Captain all over again: sparkly experimental SFX with a crappy plot in a crappy movie...
Friginator said:
I have no reason to think that the movie won't be good. But it can't possibly live up to the hype or the anticipation. And I'm very doubtful that it'll make $500 million domestically.
quebecois said:
Huge fan and all that...but...dumping on Avatar like you do is starting to irrate a bit...
Yes...it is Dancing with wolves with blue peoples...but is it not what SCifi does best?...take something familiar and view it throught a different angle?
When has Cameron EVER disapointed us as a filmmaker? Heck...he made a chickflick in 97 and made it kickass.
and if he can pull off the 3D trick with this one...well...then a new age of moviegoing will arrive...i certainly hope so.
So peoples...let us reserved judgment a bit before beating this one to death with snark
Blinker replied to quebecois:
We are reserving judgement. We're just trashing what we've seen of this film so far, which all does suck.
Movies (and promotion for the movies) are supposed to actually do something to impress us. We shouldn't have to automatically be impressed.
Greg said:
So is Elton John or Phil Collins doing this soundtrack?
JT said:
Are you really ragging on the names of the tracks on the soundtrack? Really?
wow.
I know you have a thing for hating any new movie that comes out and you dont give anything a chance but really...this is ridiculous man.
When has James Cameron fucked up to warrant all of this hate?
Give it a chance dude...really.
Chris replied to WetOREO:
umad, bud?
Rik replied to WetOREO:
I found this site after looking for more information on Avatar. For those of you who haven't seen it, it really is a great movie. I just can't believe all of the haters on this site. Seriously folks, get a life and don't knock it til you try it. WetOREO, I bet you wouldn't be quite so bold if you had state your real name.
FireThief said:
Slow news day.
bradbury said:
uhmmm... isn't this almost exactly the plot of "Battle for Terra"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0858486/
Chris replied to bradbury:
Uhm, isn't this exactly the plot for every alien movie ever made where they weren't bursting out of people's stomachs or blowing up the White House?
Wake the fuck up.
Burn the Land said:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/dor/objects/800318/avatar/videos/avatar_hardware.html
I think this looks pretty good...and fun!
Gleeman replied to Burn the Land:
Well Cameron does always get the hardware right, it's the rest of the movie I'm worried about.
