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Unfortunately, for every terrible live-action comic book movie that manages to get to theaters, there at are least three animated DVD feature movies that seem like they were thrown together by a group of writers with the vaguest of super hero magnetic poetry kits, and they need pointing out as well. Here's a list of the five best and worst to ever cross our home entertainment thresholds.
5) Green Lantern: First Flight
Origin movies are the bane of comic book adaptations. You've got to explain who the character is and how they got their powers, but too many movies get stuck in the process and spread it out over the entire movie. Green Lantern: First Flight handled all this beautifully by starting at the beginning with Hal getting his ring and then putting him right to work as a brand new space cop. From there we get the rad, space epic that all Green Lantern fans have always wanted. Hopefully the big screen version will take a few pages from this book which has big time space aliens, a good deal of GLs, ring-slinging, villains in the form of Sinestro and the Weaponers of Qward and most importantly, very little Earth, just the way it should be with an army of space cops.
4) The Batman vs. Dracula
The Batman was kind of the redheaded stepchild of the Batman animated world as it followed the beloved Batman: The Animated Series. Not nearly as groundbreaking or grown-up as its predecessor, The Batman still came out swinging, trying to hold its own weight only to get cancelled after five seasons and followed up by the hilarious Batman: Brave and the Bold. Eventually turning into a de facto Justice League cartoon itself, The Batman was also notable for spawning the first animated feature pitting Batman against a classic monster in the form of Dracula who rolls into Gotham, makes Penguin his slave and starts turning folks into vampires under Batman's cowl-covered nose. Since its still aimed at kids, you don't get to see Batman slaying vamps Buffy-style, but he does have some pretty sick fight scenes between him and Drac that makes the whole thing worth while.
3) Hulk Vs.
Marvel Studios had a lot of misses in the straight-to-DVD animated feature department (more on that soon), but Hulk Vs. was the first one to really bowl viewers over. Up to this point, their interpretations were either watered down versions of hardcore stories or the aforementioned magnetic poetry compilations, but Hulk Vs. took the basic idea of the Hulk (i.e. he fights) and did it up by throwing him against Thor and Wolverine in two 40-ish minute episodes. Sure, they probably both could have lost a few minutes and been made up of just fighting, but they get credit for breaking the mold and trying something different. We've got high hopes for the Planet Hulk DVD which comes out on February 2nd.
2) Hellboy: Sword of Storms
The animated Hellboy movies are an interesting case because they're not just based on the comics, but Guillermo del Toro's movies (technically the first one), which offers up an interesting dynamic because some of the artistic direction comes straight from the comics while the stars of the movie voice the characters. Sword of Storms does a much better job of capturing Hellboy's character and also brings in a healthy dose of creator Mike Mignola's style in the form of some random zombies and even a nearly word for word adaptation of the short story "Heads" in the middle of the movie. The rest of the flick is an original story pitting Hellboy and the B.P.R.D. against some pissed off Japanese gods and drops Hellboy in a crazy Japanese dream world. We wouldn't mind a few more entries in this series, especially if they more fully adopted Mignola's art style.
1) Wonder Woman
Wonder Woman's one of those characters who doesn't really have a defining storyline. She's more known for being part of the Justice League or as the star of a 30-year-old TV show that no one watches anymore. But, there is some coolness in the character. She's a freakin' Amazon warrior after all and that's the route the writers took when putting this animated feature together. It also doesn't pull any punches, pitting Wonder Woman against nothing less than a giant army of zombies! Keri Russell may not be the best choice for her voice, but we'll forgive that for a kick ass story with tons of murder and even some swearing! Again, we're hoping that whenever the Wonder Woman movie gets off the ground, it's more like this than an ultra-boring look at Princess Diana being molded from clay for an hour and a half.
The worst are yet to come, starting on the next page.
Comments
Bad Brendan said:
Over all i agree with the list but i personally do believe that the young Avengers from last year deserves to be in the worst category.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:22:25 AM
chudleycannonfodder replied to Bad Brendan:
Agreed. But my guess is that he either didn't know about it or forgot about it.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:05:53 AM
MORS replied to Bad Brendan:
young avengers is absolutely the worst. i will gladly watch dr strange a hundred times rather than watch young avengers again
Posted 01/29/2010 at 12:05:13 PM
R3MY replied to Bad Brendan:
Yeah, Baby Cap with his energy shield made me puke more than the typical FFF.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 01:23:45 PM
Strangeman replied to Bad Brendan:
Technically, all the kids in the Next Avengers movie were original to the movie itself, so it's not technically a comic book adaptation. But yes, it was terrible. Ultimate Avengers II deserved to be in the Worst List as well. Honestly, you could expand that Worst List by about fifteen entries.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 02:41:16 PM
satur8 said:
Somehow I've watched most from your "worst" and then passed on some from your top 5. Looks like I'll need to go back and check them out.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:24:12 AM
MooseBerry said:
I was pretty shocked by how good the Green Lantern movie was...Even the animation quality was quite good. I'll have to check out the rest.
What did you guys think of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker? The plot was shocking, but too bizarre for me to feel like it tied together well...And Batman Beyond blows.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:25:18 AM
RunnerX13 replied to MooseBerry:
I know BB is one of those love it or hate it, I'm in the former and really liked Return of the Joker. It was a great Joker movie, nice mix of dark and comedy.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:35:23 AM
McRowan replied to MooseBerry:
I liked Return of the Joker, although I had to fastfoward through the main flashback scene. I don't want to spoil the scene for anyone who hasn't seen it but it was a little too disturbing for my kid who was also enjoying the movie. Apart from that it was great.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:26:05 AM
Furious George replied to MooseBerry:
I liked it. Though the story was a little strange, I found it compelling. It is violent and shocking, even in the edited version, but probably no more so than any of the early Batman films.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:42:21 AM
John replied to Furious George:
I agree with everything you said there, I really liked Return of the Joker.
Also Batman Beyond was flawed certainly, but not irredeemably so and ROTJ totally justified it's existence
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:01:19 AM
The Thriller replied to MooseBerry:
I agree. RoTJ should have been on the top five best. I might have to check out Batman vs Dracula, though, as I'm a sucker for vampires. (I didn't even mean to make that pun).
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:36:27 AM
RunnerX13 said:
I found Hellboy: Sword and Storms to be dreadfully boring, took my two nights to get through, but really liked the second film, Blood and Iron.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:33:04 AM
RunnerX13 replied to RunnerX13:
I also have to say that New Frontier is still my favorite DC Direct DVD, and there's a lot to be said for the always overlooked, Batman: Subzero. I know it's easily dismissed as an extended episode, but for a cartoon, that's not really a bad thing. Kirkland really puts his all into this feature, and the animation was stunning, despite some very early attempts at CGI.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:43:53 AM
Bettie Petty replied to RunnerX13:
I agree with that comment about New Frontier. I checked it out just for the hell of it and loved the style of the art as well as having two of my favorite people from Twin Peaks (MacLachlan and Ferrer)voicing in it. It was quite a pleasant surprise.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:25:50 AM
Revelo said:
Surprised GL wasn't higher, but it's a pretty good list. Also wondering what you thought of Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, T.J?
Also I must check out Wonder Woman then.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:43:13 AM
Rick said:
Just wait until you see Planet Hulk
will blow you away
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:49:05 AM
Shane no AKA said:
Hands down the best STDVD Animation is DC's New Frontier
and I'm a Marvel zombie!
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:50:11 AM
Ramone replied to Shane no AKA:
YES! New Frontier is awesome. Surprised it didn't make the list.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:39:49 AM
Spazweez replied to Shane no AKA:
Ditto NEW FRONTIER for the number one slot.
It's the single reason I gave animated adaptations a second shot after the awful DR. STRANGE flick. And it's ten times better than FIRST FLIGHT, which I thought was average.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 03:51:13 PM
THE PR0F3550R said:
You could have expanded this to best 10 and worse 10.
I enjoyed most of the recent DC animated movies such as Wonder Woman, Green Lantern: First Flight, and even Superman/Batman: Public Enemies. Superman: Doomsday and Justice League: New Frontier didn't wow me and I have not seen Batman: Gotham Knight so I have no opinion an that.
The Marvel animated features have been less than stellar. Ultimate Avengers 1 was okay, but Ultimate Avengers 2 was sucky. The Invincible Ironman was a downer. I pretty much gave up on Marvel because these first three were just not that good. Hulk Vs was good for its simplicity, but nothing to go ape over.
The older DC Animated Universe movies like Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero, and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker were all pretty good. Superman: Brainiac Attacks while technically not in the same universe as Superman the Animated Series is decent enough because it feels like it continues Superman: TAS.
I like both DC and Marvel, but to me DC seems to just do better with animated television shows and animated feature films. The majority of them just hold up better in animation, story, and character portrayal.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:56:21 AM
McRowan replied to THE PR0F3550R:
DC Superheroes tend to be over-the-top and lend better to animated movies. Marvel Superheroes tend to be more down to earth and lend better to live action movies. Just my opinion.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:30:40 AM
THE PR0F3550R replied to McRowan:
You're right with this analysis. DC characters have not translated well (except Batman, but then again, we watch Batman for his villains) to film, but I'm not sure if it's the characters themselves or the writers/directors/producers who make the films fault.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:29:45 AM
boredatwork replied to THE PR0F3550R:
I like Marvel comics better, I can never figure out the DC continuity. All this pre-post crisis crap that floats all over the place drives me nuts.
But their animated kicks ass, and it isn't even close. Well, usually.
I didn't like Doomsday/Superman, and apart from the plot and all that, the way their cheeks were drawn pissed me off. Ultimates 2 sucked balls, but 1 was pretty decent, if I recall properly.
I wish I'd seen more of the 'good' list before the kids went to live with their mom. I saw a lot of the bad ones with them though.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:37:11 AM
Bettie Petty replied to boredatwork:
Yes! The whole cheek thing bugged the hell out of me. I had a hard time enjoying it for the character designs alone.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:34:06 AM
SuperDevil replied to THE PR0F3550R:
DC animation does a much better job with getting quality voice acting.
Also, the best DC animation follows the simple triangle approach that was developed for their male characters (started in Batman:TAS). Male characters can look really stiff when you attempt to draw them realistically (unlike female characters, who are more curvy).
It's also the reason why Hulk Vs. doesn't belong anywhere near a top 5 list. I understand this is a Marvel site and you want to have a Marvel movie in your top 5 list, but in what universe is Hulk Vs. better then Superman/Batman (which was an action packed blast), New Frontier, Sub-Zero, or Return of the Joker?
As for your bottom list, Superman/Doosmday doesn't belong there. Especially withe existance of Ultimate Angers 1 & 2 and Young Avengers.
Superman/Doomsday was much better then the awful "Death of Superman" storyline that ran in the comics. It added more logical elements as well. The detailing on Superman's face is distracting and hurts the movie. But, it's lightyears better then Young Avengers.
As for Superman's death not meaning something. My wife, who hates my comic collection and gives me looks when I go to the comic store, who refuses to see Star Wars or Star Trek movies, who doesn't like science fiction in general, cried when Superman died.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 03:15:52 PM
Motivational Smart Ass said:
Like satur8, I also seem to have seen more on the "Worst" list.
I wholeheartedly agree on Dr. Strange (I think I used the scan button on my DVD for a chunk of that one), Iron Man, and Superman/Doomsday. I was so disappointed on the Doomsday one, but that was my own fault for even remotely getting my hopes up.
Am I the only one who feels that when the writers take a super popular storyline, use the same title, then basically gut and alter the story completely to make it kid friendly and fit into 80 minutes, that it's akin to fraud? Everyone knows it's not going to be the same, but the producers use the name just to get fans of the original to plunk down money for it. Stupid. And I'm stupid for falling for it. Thank God for Netflix so these days I just lose time and not money...
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:58:49 AM
Capt Ireland said:
Hulk vs is great overall. The fact that Deadpool was in it just sold it for me (at least on the wolverine side he was) Really want to check out GL movie, and I might look into the wonder woman movie now since the Robot thought it was awesome. Anyone see Public Enemies (Bat and Sups) How was it?
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:58:56 AM
RunnerX13 replied to Capt Ireland:
Public Enemies was pretty good, of course the voice cast was stellar.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:06:52 AM
Arsenal said:
You forgot to add JLA New Frontier to the best of list. Superman/Batman Public Enemies was also pretty good
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:08:04 AM
jeffers said:
I can't really pass proper judgment on Dr. Strange, considering the fact that when I saw it I'd actually seen very little of him (MUA was the extent of my Dr Strange knowledge). As for the rest I have to agree with you especially in the case of mystery of the batwoman,I mean come on, the whole "everyone did it" twist hasn't been shocking since Agatha Christie used it.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:08:15 AM
one zen bullet said:
Superman/Doomsday wasn't so bad. It had a shirtless, effeminate Lex Luthor homoerotically beating the shit out of his Superman clone while screaming 'who's's your daddy?!'
It would have been much better if they had the usual Diniverse voice cast though. There will never be a better Luthor than Clancy Brown.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:08:31 AM
GUMBERCULES! replied to one zen bullet:
And the fact that the fight with Doomsday lasts about 5 minutes? How about the fact that they completely skip the actually INTERESTING stuff, like the 4 Supermen who replaced him? Also, everything is made better by a goofy robot sidekick, right?
That movie is precious moments of my life I will never get back. A movie should never make you feel THAT glad you read the book first.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:09:15 AM
Jack of all games replied to one zen bullet:
Agreed. I hated the voice casting for Superman/Doomsday. Clancy Brown is definitively Lex Luthor and if you're going to go with someone different you need to have someone who can at least portray the same level of menace along with the high intelligence.
If memory serves, Luthor's voice actor was the same guy who voiced The Atom during his appearances in JLU. That totally ruined it for me as he sounded the same.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 01:17:29 AM
Ahem! said:
I thought that the Turok: Son of Stone would have been in the Top Five. Excellent, if overlooked, DVD! And I agree with Bad Brendan regarding the Avengers Next. Truly appalling.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:18:40 AM
Menshevixen said:
Agreed about Turok: Son of Stone. Your Top Five are just about right on, though; First Flight and the Wonder Woman movie were awesome. Public Enemies was also ace, in a bromance kind of way.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:32:32 AM
wil said:
I'm kinda disappointed you only stuck to the new DTV animated films.Return of the Joker and the Mr Freeze one both deserve a place in the top five. And there's been some very iffy DTV live action super hero films. The Man Thing film that came out a few years back, for instance?
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:33:00 AM
Nik said:
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who fell asleep during Gotham Knight. I still haven't seen the whole thing.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:38:38 AM
rattrap007 said:
I agree with most of your picks.
GL first flight is excellent. Wonder Woman was great as well. Hellboy films were well done. Hulk Vs. was also good. Plus with that you got Deadpool who stole the show.
As far as worst: Yeah the Iron Man and Strange were fairly bad. I'd place Gotham Knights at #1. Animation varies from great to ugly ass fish lipped people. horrid.
Haven't seen the The Batman ones, nor do I care to. But good list overall.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:43:27 AM
GoSpeedGo108 said:
I actually really enjoyed Gotham Knight, but that's probably because i enjoy anything with Batman in it. I found most of the animation styles (yes, even the first one) to be really cool, and while the plot was lacking it was still interesting enough to keep me wanting more.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 09:57:56 AM
demoncat said:
i would have had green latern first flight higher on the best list like number 2 or one. and would have put gotham knights on the best list for one had to watch it a few times and get use to the animation. as for the worse list doctor strange was not that bad it was the first time marvel finaly got the sorcer supreme into other media the iron man film should have been number one on the worse list
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:02:06 AM
Ahem! replied to demoncat:
The recent Doctor Strange DVD wasn't his first time in Other Media. I remember a live-action TV Movie in 1978 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077469/
He also stared in a few animated series (speaking parts) like Spider-Man and His Amazing friends, SM:TAS, Incredible Hulk & a cameo in X-Men. Just sayin'
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:15:48 AM
rj472 said:
The Wolverine part of "Hulk vs." was what "Wolverine: Origins" should have been. You essentially had the Wolverine origin story in it and a much more faithful Deadpool.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:03:05 AM
Nick said:
Good list. I think Hulk Vs should be number one though. Haven't seen The Batman vs Dracula, but I'll have to check it out. Looking forward to your "Worst" list.
-- Nick
from City of Kik
http://nickleshi.blogspot.com
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:14:31 AM
jason bergman said:
Gotham Knight was *awful*. I didn't hate Dr. Strange. It was just silly.
And for the record, the unrated Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker has to be #1. That's just badass.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:16:05 AM
Menshevixen replied to jason bergman:
This is true. I loved Batman Beyond and the movie was great. I would probably do lots of naughty things to Bruce Timm, given the chance.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:18:37 AM
Loafy said:
I'd switch Green Lantern with Wonder Woman but otherwise a solid list. And I'd definitely remove Dr Strange from the worst list as I found it far more entertaining than most of Marvel's films. Both Ultimate films are worse than it.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:48:43 AM
Geoff said:
'The coolest thing about the epic "Death of Superman" story from 1992 was, you guessed it, the fact that after a long and grueling battle across the entire country, Superman died defending the world from an alien monster'
Nope, the coolest part was the funeral itself. Which, of course, was done better in the Justice League episode 'Hereafter', since that was able to capture the 'DC Universe in mourning' feel that Superman / Doomsday couldn't.
But, geez, a 'best' list that includes Hulk Vs. and excludes both Return of the Joker and New Frontier? Fail. Fail. FAIL.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:55:35 AM
Jettwinlock said:
I like anime, but those Animetrix and Gothom Nights have taught us anything is that short stories about a specific universe with multiple directors never works out.
Wait for Halo Legends they will have 3 for 3 of the worst sci animation packs of all time.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:08:34 AM
Kevin replied to Jettwinlock:
Animatrix was largely fluff, but it had some really cool animation, and I always like seeing a specific universe interpreted in different styles. And "The Second Renaissance" segment completely changes the tone of the sequels, because you realize that the humans treated the machines pretty shitty. So the actions of Neo and the human resistance seem a little less heroic when you realize that humans fucked everything up in the first place.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 04:58:19 PM
Jack of all games replied to Kevin:
The Second Renaissance is the one part of the Animatrix that I just cannot pull my eyes away from. It provides an excellent backstory to the otherwise unfathomable Matrix universe and once the war between humans and the machines gets rolling it truly has some of the most horrific scenes for me. I still cringe when I think of those guys in powered armor getting cut open and then pulled out screaming.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 01:28:06 AM
Juancho said:
The Batman vs. Dracula was a mediocre, at best. I wouldn't place it on the list of "the best".
Also, Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow should be high up on this list (replacing Superman: Doomsday).
Of course, this is your list, so what I'm saying doesn't really matter, but this is what I would have done.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:10:48 AM
JOBSQUAD said:
You are crazy, Gotham Knight kicked ass.
It's the only one of these straight to
DVD movies that had any creativity and
originality (in the Animation, I do agree
they totally lifted that plot from BTAS).
I find the character designs and animation
in pretty much all these to be bland and
generic. They all look the same!
Agree with #1 though, Dr. Strange sucked
whale dick.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:51:25 AM
wotness said:
I second Bad Brendan: Young Avengers should be in the worst list. I don't know why anyone ever thought that was a good idea (not to mention they let Cap's son pretty much completely ignore his mothers legacy and let him only focus on his all-American father..)
Hulk vs. deserved to be in the best 5, pure because it showed the best depiction of Deadpool on screen ever (despite a couple of flaws). You would think that wouldn't be hard, seen he has less than a handful appearances outside the comics, but the Wolverine movie showed just how bad they could screw it up.
I didn't think Batman: Gotham Knight was too bad. I actually enjoyed that it showed some different sides of Batman and how depressing his world can be. But it is not something everyone will like.
Dr. Strange..well, it was ok-ish. Then again, I don't know much about him. I did find it annoying how they pretty much slaughtered all characters. Lady Death: The Movie should be in the worst list. Characterization, fight scene's..just bad.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 12:16:29 PM
Anonymous said:
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm should've been number one (we actually get to see the Animated Series Joker kill someone for once!) At least Batman Beyond the Return of the Joker didn't make the good list, Batamn Beyond sucks ass.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 01:47:28 PM
BuncheB said:
Some people think that BATMAN: MASK OF THE PHANTASM was released straight to video, but I was fortunate enough to catch it when it played theatrically in Manhattan. I still think it's the best Batman movie ever made and am saddened that it never got the notice it deserved from audiences while it played on the big screen. I think it lasted less than a week at the one theater where I knew it played in Manhattan. Seriously, it was like if you blinked, it was gone.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 01:51:06 PM
jason bergman replied to BuncheB:
I saw it in NYC too! Was great on the big screen. Plus I felt like the biggest nerd EVER going to see it. Was great.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 03:42:56 PM
mrm1138 replied to BuncheB:
Yeah, it definitely had a wide release otherwise I never would have been able to see it in Lima, Ohio. I agree that it's an out, and out classic and up until the release of Batman Begins, it was arguably and ironically the least cartoonish Batman movie ever made.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 06:54:13 PM
BallsMonkey said:
The Batman vs Dracula over Batman Beyond Return of the Joker? Over JLA: New Frontier? Ove Superman/Batman Public Enemies? I don't think so.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 01:52:37 PM
This Is Me Posting said:
Wow. I'm actually surprised at how many people like Green Lantern: First Flight. I would have easily placed that in the Top 5 Worst list. That movie's fucking horrendous.
New Frontier was meh.
Return of the Joker should have placed.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 02:16:40 PM
Bob said:
Whoa, is taste ever subjective! This list should have been called, My Favorite and Least Favorite Direct to DVD Animated Movies, because of this.
I would say the Wonder Woman one was one of the worst, and Gotham Night one of the best. Superman/Batman Public Enemies was hideous, it was truly horrible, with rushed art on segments being the main offender. However, I cannot believe New Frontier was left off the best-of list, if not the top spot. It's on another level of awesome.
Agree on the Marvel ones being in the Bad category- the Avengers ones made me wonder why I was watching them. Hulk VS were surprisingly fun, though.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 02:28:09 PM
Malcadon said:
OMFG!!! THE Batman vs. Dracula movie sucked ass! It was boring and mediocre! I can't believe THAT was put in, instead of Justice League: The New Frontier - which was WAY better!!!
...otherwise, nice list!
Posted 01/29/2010 at 03:14:24 PM
ryan said:
I would disagree with Wonder Woman in the "best" category and certainly with it scoring #1. I found Wonder Woman to be dreadfully boring almost (but not quite) as boring as Iron Man. I actually stopped buying the Marvel and DC dvd for a while because of Iron Man. I actually slept through most of it.
I liked New Frontier quite a bit and was surprised it didn't make the list. I also enjoyed Public Enemies. It was a fun movie that showcased alot of characters.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 03:39:40 PM
SoldierHawk said:
I loved WW and GL, and agree with most of your "worst" choices...except one. I ADORED Batman: Gotham Knight. Some of my favorite Batman stories/interpretations of all time are in that movie. I think its fantastic.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 03:46:25 PM
misszilla said:
Maybe I'm a little more accepting of any sort of media that gets put out, just because I love the entertainment factor. I mean, I realize that Frank Miller's All Star Batman and Robin was... well, you know. But I loved it nonetheless, if not for the quotability. :)
But I have to disagree with Gotham Knight being on the worst list! I'll admit, the second story is a little boring and confusing, and for some reason Bruce has brown eyes in his straight up appearance as a mangaslut, BUT STILL. I loved it so much, and there is a terrible amount of insight to some of the stories, even if it has been done or been stated before. There aren't any original ideas anymore, but there are always new ways to recreate them.
I DON'T KNOW. I'm horrible at making a point. I'm an animation major, so hell, maybe I'm just defending the movie based on the fact that I could just watch the thing on mute all day and not get bored. You have to give it that, at least. The animation was fantastic. :D
Posted 01/29/2010 at 04:35:41 PM
Scortia said:
Oh screw this. You had me until the #1 worst. The Dr. Strange movie is awesome. I actually OWN the damn thing.
Some segments of Gotham Knight were great, some were misses.
Mystery of the Batwoman deserves worse than #5. Horrible movie, though the weird Bruce/Barbara innuendo was entertaining.
Every Avenger movie ever made should be in the Worst list... old and new, all suck hard. Their tv series was crap too. NINETIES EXTREME!
Also, Green Lantern haters. Kilowogg made that movie great, ya bunch of poozers!
Posted 01/29/2010 at 05:10:27 PM
Kid Nicky said:
I love how multiple people here seem to think Gotham Knights "ripped off" the first story from an episode of BTAS. They're both adaptations of one of the most popular done-in-one Batman stories.
I thought Gotham Knights was pretty cool. Most of the animation was cool,and none of it was the same tired old shit. Plus,come on,the Deadshot part was awesome beyond belief.
Normally I hate comments on top 10 lists saying"FAIL YOU FORGOT X!!!11!ONE!" but in all seriousness,Wonder Woman is a better movie than New Frontier? Have you been smoking the crack?
Posted 01/29/2010 at 05:28:26 PM
Pete said:
I dunno. I was bored to tears by Batman vs. Dracula, and the extreme liberties taken with the GL mythos turned me off of it (though, truth, I did love Kilowog).
On the other hand, I quite enjoyed Gotham Knight and the Invincible Iron Man, so... *shrugs*
Posted 01/29/2010 at 05:41:36 PM
Reverend Ender said:
Green Lantern was Garbage. Public Enemies was Garbage. Doomsday was passable. Anyone with differing opinions does not count.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 07:49:03 PM
clark said:
I pretty much agree with this list, although I fell asleep during Batman vs Dracula, and I remember Dr. Strange being pretty good (but I'll have to watch it again to make sure). Gotham Knight was mostly just disappointing, but had a few moments, and Iron Man has got to be my number 1 worst effing animated movie I've seen.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 08:42:52 PM
mrloco said:
Thanks for the reviews and thanks for the comments. After reading the 'best' list i went straight to comments to see if there was consensus on some others that should have made the list and am looking forward to New Frontiers, Public Enemies, and a couple of other highly regarded shows mentioned.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 10:03:26 PM
LBD "Nytetrayn" said:
Gee, I liked Dr. Strange when I caught it on TV a while back. But then, I had almost no exposure to the character prior, save for cameos in Spider-man and House of M and such.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 11:17:15 PM
Tupper said:
"OMFG, if you liked that, your a fucking queer loser!"
Reverend Ender, please continue banging your head against the wall in anticipation for Orson Scott Card's books being made into a movie. Gimme a reason why Public Enemies sucked that makes sense or piss off. Simple as that.
For Optimus' sakes! If you're all gonna bitch, bitch about how you CANNOT write about the best and worst of anything and leave off entries that are CLEARLY good. TJ, dude, if you haven't seen all the Straight-to-DVD comic films, THEN YOU CANNOT WRITE A LIST ABOUT THE BEST AND WORST. The commenters are right; New Frontier was great and should be on the best list, Mask of the Phantasm (brief theatrical premiere or not) should have been number one, and at least two of the Avengers films should be on the worst list. Come on man. It's like picking the Oscar for best picture after only seeing ten movies that year.
Oh and just for arguments sake:
Gotham Nights was great, but should have maintained a better consistancy through each story; Green Lantern was fantastic but could have tied more in with the color spectrum ring ideas Geoff Johns came up with; Wonder Woman was awesome, no doubt; New Frontier was great; Ultimate Avengers 1 was pretty entertaining with bad voiceovers while 2 was drek with no storyline and bad voiceovers; Next Avengers = forgettable; Iron Man = Boring. Hellboy = really boring (and it pains me to say that); Hulk Vs. was freakin' fantastic. Lots of comic characters and spot on characterizations; Public Enemies was also fantastic seeing as it was basically 80 minutes of Batman and Superman beating the crap out of everyone; Superman/Doomsday had almost no redeeming qualities seeing as it ignored everything that made the comic storyline great; and finally out of the three Batman: TAS movies, Phantasm = Big Win, Sub-Zero = Entertaining and Batwoman = good way to kill some time with old friends who aged kind of badly.
Dr. Strange remains unwatched by this nerd.
Now I must watch World War Hulk and Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths.
Make a point and BACK IT THE FUCK UP! Sheesh.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 12:37:18 AM
Uncle Pappy Wolf said:
Hmm, Not the list I would have made but its alright. I'm guessing were not looking at the whole of Comic Book inspired stuff but only straight from the page adaptations? if so I would have to say the Amazing Screw-On Head could have been added to the worst list and New Frontiers should of been on the Best List. I didn't have high expectations for Gotham Knight. I thought it was just an artsy Anime take on the Bats..so it wasn't that bad to me. The worst thing comic book related put to DVD was that Watchmen Complete Motion Comic. all the voices where done by the same dude even the female ones!!and they put that Crap on BLU RAY!heh!
Posted 01/30/2010 at 03:32:16 AM
Ren Geek said:
I seem to be the only person in the boat who enjoyed the Next Avengers. The premise was clever enough and unlike most other CBAMs, it wasn't trying to be a distilled adaptation of an existing storyline. It was something completely original in itself and I give it massive credit for that.
I was amused by a lot of the stuff it didn't say, like who Black Panther's kid's mother obviously was that the boy had lightning powers.
Sure, it was all kiddy and suffered the same production quality as other Marvels, but I would have watched a series of this.
On DC side, New Frontier. An excellent job of distilling the basic story down. If I was to make a Justice League big-screen movie, I'd pay attention to how this was worked.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 08:06:28 AM
ThatCostumeGirl said:
WW should not be number 1. It's one of the worst adaptations. Sure it's pretty and decently cast and action packed, but I think the only thing they had right story-wise was that she was Wonder Woman and the guy from the plane was Steve Trevor. That's about it.
I'll add a vote for Young Avengers for Worst and New Frontier for Best.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 04:25:29 PM
J22 said:
What does it say about me that the only 3 comic book movies I've seen are all in the worst list?
Posted 01/30/2010 at 05:33:19 PM
James Ferguson said:
I'm watching Superman: Brainiac Attacks and I think that it's worse than Superman: Doomsday. The horrible portrayal of a cartoonish Lex Luthor is enough to warrant that. The score is horrendous too.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 08:48:06 PM
t-fal said:
Wonder Woman as number one? Please.
The first Ultimate Avenger movie should have placed first. It's still the standard as to how to properly do this kind of stuff in my opinion as it has the look of a summer blockbuster.
Conversely? Young Avengers is the absolute pits. Horrible concept, horrible execution.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 11:55:06 PM
SenorMysterioso said:
The best part of Superman Doomsday was the documentary in the special features about the actual Death of Superman story and the comic book industry of the 90s. If you see the dvd in the discount bin the doc is worth the price but dont waste your time watching the film, its horrible.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 03:47:16 AM
Glass said:
Ultimate Avengers has got to be one of the worst. They took a comic series that was already designed like a moview and made it a Saturday morning cartoon.
Gotham Knight was a failure from conception. It's supposed to be a bridge between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight but it's decidedly not in continuity. THe result is fanfiction tripe.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 10:34:30 AM
Yackoochi said:
I say Batman: Return of the Joker is the best, with Iron Man being the worst; I mean they hardly showed the red/gold armour!
Wonder Woman and Green Lantern were excellent... however I thought there was too much emphasis on Sinestro instead of Hal in GL.
I don't think it's fair to have Batman: Gotham Knight in the worst category, yes some segments were unusual and underwhelming it was a bold move on the animation front.
Marvel's Ultimate Avengers was decent however after that they all tanked. DC has proven time and time again they kick all sorts of a** in the dvd animation dept.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 12:32:11 PM
Mickey Stabs said:
you know whats sad? my girlfriend owns 4 of the 5 worst on this list. and i kinda gotta agree with them being bad. her brother owns the other one from that list.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 03:50:28 PM
Mickey Stabs said:
you know whats sad? my girlfriend owns 4 of the 5 worst on this list. and i kinda gotta agree with them being bad. her brother owns the other one from that list.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 04:02:11 PM
Acid Rainbows said:
Some of Gotham Knight was really pretty, and I'm an art student, So I can watch something like that. I wasn't even aware there was an overall storyline other than "Look at the Batman, Doing his Batman thing" I really don't remember the film, I suppose that says alot about it's plot...
Overall, from what I've actually seen, Good list :)
Posted 02/02/2010 at 09:23:10 PM







