• fakeassname? More like dumbassname. GUH!

• wait... you're saying we're cinematically juevenile because didnt think Transformers or Indy 4 were good movies? I'm sorry but neither of those movies are even close to being good films. I consider good films to be: 2001: A Space Odyssey, Taxi Driver, Silence of the Lambs, A Clockwork Orange All of these films have great plots great filming techniques, great acting and great atmospheres. Neither Indy 4 or Transformers even come close to comparing.

• People don't work if nobody is willing to hire them. Trust me, this is the kind of statement that gets people blacklisted.

• What part of HALF THE POPULATION DIED do you not get. Are you mad that it was women. If all the women died and men turned to savagery and homosexuality, would that make more sense to you? Does it really matter that it was women? Society would fall apart because there aren't enough people there to hold the machine together. It has nothing to do with being negative towards women. It's just an elaborate 'what if'. The fact that you think all these people could even possibly hold society together after something as catastrophic as that is beyond me. I chock it up to naivete.

• "There's one point to it: make the scene feel real to an audience," An audience is made up of people. People with varying, dare I say subjective, viewpoints. What works for an audience depends on the audience. I'm not defending this hack, you're just incredibly wrong.

• Except for the 'cool guy' part.

• Say what you will, but LaBeouf really knows how to eat a banana, and that's all you need to get by in Hollywood.

• I don't think there was anything wrong with his acting in TF2. It seemed the same as in the first, a panicky teenager. Out of all the things wrong in TF2 I can't say Shia's performance was one of them. Soooooo yeah back to blaming the writers and directors!

• ... When he mans up and tells this to Michael Bay's face before walking off the set, then I'll respect him. Until then, fuck him.

• I DON'T CARE! THIS IS JUST A DUMB SHIT MARKETING CAMPAIGN TO TRY TO TRICK PEOPLE INTO THINKING TF3 WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE THE LEAD ACTOR SAYS HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO CRAPPY MOVIES ANY MORE, AND NATURALLY THAT MEANS HE WONT STAR IN TF3 UNLESS IT ISN'T CRAPPY .... BULL SHIT! FUCK YOU "BEEF" FUCK YOU SPIELBERG FUCK YOU MICHEL BAY FUCK YOU WORLD THAT MAKES THESE SHITTY ASS MOVIES SUCCESSFUL! WHEN RELEASE DAY COMES AROUND I'M GOING TO TAKE MY $50.00 (TWO TICKETS + POPCORN AND A DRINK) AND RENT EVERY SINGLE FUCKIN' COPY OF ROBOT JOX I CAN FIND AND WATCH THEM. YES, I SWEAR ON THE DAY TF3 OPENS I WILL WATCH EVERY SINGLE FUCKING COPY OF ROBOT JOX IN TOWN .... AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GONNA FUCKING LOVE IT! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

• Also my thoughts exactly.

• I actually don't mind Shia Le'beoufe. I just feel sorry for the rest of you guys for having bitch fits over some guy you hardly know. Hell you think he'll care about your comments? He makes more money than any of us. I guess what I'm trying to say is why give a fuck if he doesn't? Don't let it get to you. I'm not.

• Wow. I hate the Beef too, but this Man With Two Brains guy, "trained actor", you just sound like a pretentious douche. I'm a trained actor myself, but I don't think I will EVER use that to prove my point as you have. You just sound angry and whiny. Like every other actor I know who hasn't "made it." Get over it. Most of us won't "make it." We all have great careers awaiting us in community theatre and less talented actors (like the Beef) will continue to make millions. Just accept it. Whaddya call guys who got Cs in med-school? Doctor.

• I feel like he's indirectly saying the first TF movie was good. It wasn't. He is mistaken.

• Wyngarde: "Holes was terrible. I've never been hit over the head with a message movie like that one." What message? Eat peaches in the desert? Nobody's mentioned Wall Street, which he's playing a leading role in alongside Michael Douglas. But that probably has an emotionally engaging story line without a mountain of special effects so I guess the average TR reader doesn't even know about it. Even the movie that had the previous decade's BEST special effects was completely shit on by nearly every commenter on this site. You guys honestly have the worst and most juvenile takes on cinema it's fucking laughable.

• Agreed. I want to see him in a lower budget, more story driven movie. Enough of this running around and dodging explosions. Show me you can play a convincing character. Kudos for saying what he said, PR stunt or not, he has more guts than some actors.

• Acting isn't subjective?!?! 'fraid not. I've seen too many arguments about whether a particular actor is or isn't good an a given role to buy that. And to claim that being an actor gives you more insight than others? Eh... no. You have your right to your opinion, but it isn't better or worse that anyone else's on here.

• <del>Pics</del> Vids or it didn't happen.

• Maybe you need to reduce the silicate levels in your diet?

• Well, this is a step in the right direction for building the Beef's rep back up, now he needs to find himself a low-budget indie flick or two to do where he actually gets a chance to show us if he can act or not.

• I liked both of those movies.

• unless he's already contracted into the deal, the biggest and best statement he could make is not do a third bayformer, that or hold out until he's confident in the script. i'm not sure how much he can own the mess of Tranny 2. the writers didn't write; the editors didn't edit; and the director seems only concerned about pyrotechnics and military lingo. no one sorted it out: bay completely ignored his responsibility as director. maybe the first one was carried by spielberg...whatever. i like labeef. i enjoy the other films he's in. here he's just punishing himself out of hand, confusing his acting with everyone else's roles going into the movie.

• ...because I haven't seen that movie and have no interest in seeing it. Why would I list a movie I haven't seen?

• Wow, now I know you guys are ruthless, but good Gods. Now I am rather apathetic when it comes to LA Beef, I neither like nor despise the actor. But honestly people, how many of you would gladly go up to the person who more or less is your boss and tell them YO your work sucks, make it better please? Particularly, if you are gonna make millions doing it. There is integrity and then there is sabotaging your career. So of course, he's not going to piss off those in charge of his hefty paycheck. On the other hand, he isn't deluded into thinking what he did in these movies was any good. So kudos to him. So I'm with Rob. And the rest of you need to chill.

• That's because art is subjective. While one person might love Jackson Pollock's work, another might think he was a drugged-up drunken hack. Acting, on the other hand, isn't subjective. There's one point to it: make the scene feel real to an audience, and make your character seem like a real person. LaBeouf utterly fails at that. I'd still think he was a shitty actor even if those movies somehow managed to be good, that wouldn't change. Saying that he used to have promise is the same thing as saying that he's a bad actor. If you read my other comments in this thread, you'd see that I said that he needs to be reminded of the basics. If he was put through a crash course in Stanislavski's system, or the 12 guideposts to feeling the reality of a character, he might actually grow and become decent, but right now he isn't making his characters real, he's just robotic aside from his character's moments of panic (yes, I did intend the singular). There is only ONE thing an actor needs to do to be successful and he doesn't manage that.

• WTF,why did you leave off Grandma's Boy?

• Don't act like you wouldn't wanna see that buddyboy.

• Clever.

• Yo! He was the shit in Holes!

• Holes was terrible. I've never been hit over the head with a message movie like that one.

• Well if wanting to see robots fighting makes me a dope, then I'm all for being a dope. Too bad that movie has not been made. They've got two with Shia dodging robots in the back ground while they cut to jet fighters in slow motion, but no awesome movie and robots being the main characters and duking it out. One day, they'll make that movie.

• Didn't say that it wouldn't happen, but Women run many countries. Women hold many jobs or power. Women know how to operate weaponry, prepare food and fix machines. Things would be different, yes, but resorting to a Mad Max world with bows and arrows? Don't think so. They make it sound like , "No men! Back to the stone age becuase us women can't do anything" and I say that's stupid. And I don't think EVERY woman would instantly become a lesbian. It's not like men disappeared from history.

• Jesus you fucking hater-gators, did nobody see Holes? Bobby? If you want to see an actor in good films you sort of have to want to watch GOOD FILMS IN THE FIRST PLACE, idiots.

• I went to 3 different art schools! I have a degree! Strangely enough, I am still in no more position to judge than before school! I often have no fucking clue about art and realize my degree will easily tear beneath my feet if I decide its a soapbox to stand on. I think Shia takes alot of shit since he's the common element in 2 of the biggest disappointments to our geeky 80s obsessed brotherhood. He was really funny and unusual as a kid on the Disney Channel. I think all the promise he showed got him pulled into some big successful stuff pretty fast, which snowballed into more unearned roles before he got more experience than "stutter, spaz out, and run like shit!" Calling him the next Tom Hanks before his big films were released was idiotic. It's cool to see him take more responsibility than he should have. If TF and Indy4 had been awesome, we'd probably just feel lukewarm abour him and wouldnt even be talking about him. I think the prequels show that a clusterfuck of a film can't be saved or made much shittier by its stars.

• Shia the beef should be commanded for he is risking his whole career and pissing off a few people that could end his career in holly wood. mostly the studio who makes the trans formers film. plus Steven for finaly admiting crystal skull was a train wreck not to mention Shia is just asking for Michel bay to have him crushed by a transformer in the next film. or their balls.

• Then you actually try to have a decent spin on his comments knowing you put that pic up to Eff him over Rob! Too funny... Anyways, people are too hard on The Beef...Coming from a kinda popular Disney show to where he is today is surprising...I actually think the dude is pretty humorous, but he got involved with the Devil Micheal Bay and a totally out of touch Steven Speilberg...What was he gonna do turn those two down and start guest appearing on Suite Life with Zac and Cody???? I hope he chooses better movies based on his comments..I think the kid has some talent...

• LMMFAO, I can't even comment on the content as I've been laffing 10 mins. straight at the pic of The Beef just about to insert the fanboy-dick aka banana in his mouth...Too effin funny that pic...xD That pic is so f*cked up xD hahaha...

• PS... Brotherhood of the Wolf failed even worse!

• Crystal Skull failed. Utterly. I'm a forgiving critic, I can accept bad technical acting, if the chemistry works. Don't mix what you ask your audience can believe in with what they should. Crystal is a horrible failure. All of the previous Indy films did it right, sure the Ark melted zombies, the holy grail gave life, and a cultist can pull your still beating heart out of your chest. Believable? Sure they're all 'magic' it fits. Man eating ants, I was cool with (Lots of local legends of similaar feets) The flying saucer bit (again wierd local legends + captures that serial movie style), I was okay with because I can see where it came from but... Swinging on vines with monkeys, just dumb Surviving ground zero by hoping in a lead lined fridge, and then watching the mushroom cloud from a hilside??!!! What were you smoking? And worse of all The Crystal Skull... One of the most important props, of Lucas's Career... looks like he got for $5 @ a Holloween store. OMG, plus the actors whip it arround like it ways a pound or two thing ought to way 50-60 lbs easy, even if it was hollow.

• wow i read almost the exact same shit off another site. try to say some original shit next time, rob. it's ok to have your own opinions!

• TF2 gave me diarrhea, migraines and acute brain fever that sent me into a downward spiral that took a year of counseling to pull myself out of. But thanks for realizing it kills innocent minds after the fact 'the beef'.

• And NO MEN WHATSOEVER....why is it crazy to think that a lot of women would resort to lesbianism?

• it was good, it was no 'The Sign of the Beaver' but it was ok.

• Well, according to a lot of dopes, "big robots fighting" is what they wanna see.

• Sort of like a high tech tribute to Hitchcock, only written and directed by idiots and performed by the talentless. Um... in my opinion.

• I've always loved and respected Shia, so this makes me love and respect him all the more. He was a joy to watch on Even Stevens when I was younger, and his work on Tru Confessions blows me away every time I watch it. I'm glad that not only has he made it big, but he's still serious about what he does (despite all the fame) and humble about it. From seeing these articles, he's definitely not afraid to admit when he's done a bad job, and c'mon, that puts him in the top .1% of Hollywood actors out there, in my book.

• Like I said in my other response, I don't often see stuff in theaters because I don't have the money for it, so the last one I can remember going to a multiplex to see is "Sherlock Holmes" which I really enjoyed. I'm planning to try to catch cheap matinees of "Iron Man 2" and "Kick-Ass" soon, though, and both look at least fun. Some movies I've rented recently or watched on TV, or watched from my collection include "Dazed and Confused", "The Big Sleep", "Way of the Dragon", "Flash Gordon", "The Princess Bride", "The Day the Earth Stood Still" [original], and "Six-String Samurai". And no, "Flash Gordon" and "Way of the Dragon" don't have particularly good acting either, but they're great anyway because they manage to be fantastically entertaining, something which "Disturbia" completely failed to do for me.

• Assuming makes an ass out of you. I don't see a lot of movies in the theater for financial reasons, but I'm far from a snob when it comes to movies. If a movie has good acting, an interesting (to me) plot, and isn't a crappy rip-off, I'm going to enjoy it. I also enjoy cheesy b-movies quite a bit. However, when a movie sucks, like Disturbia does, I don't enjoy it.

• pfft... he's just selling the next movie. He is already saying how awesome Transformers 3(D) is going to be...

• Well, if you look at the interview, he basically says, "I can't act, I can't do what the scripts says and I only have this job because Steven has a crush on me." I guess what I'm saying is just once, I'd like to see something bad happen to these big budget turds. Like no one going to see it opening weekend.

• If you look at the interview, he basically says, "I can't act, I can't do what the scripts says and I only have this job because Steven has a crush on me."

• That's a pretty harsh criticism. What movie have you seen in theatres recently that rates as passable?

• Disturbia was a good movie.Yes we all know its no Rear Window (no shit), but it was fine popcorn entertainment that was well made. Your claim that the acting was "uniformly terrible" and some of your other comments on this board leads me to believe that you carry unrealistically high expectations for a movie to meet your approval. It sounds like you have a certain criteria that you've amassed from viewing assorted cinematic masterpieces and using it has the stick all films regardless of genre or purpose are measured with. There's having high expectations for a movie, which is good, then there are the expectations of the ego stroking variety. "What? What is this drek? It seems that the local mulltiplex isn't showing any Bergman films!"

• You see how far that nanner is peeled. That's the size bite he takes....without chewing. Good taste indeed.

• Hey, thanks for mentioning Stanislavski, kept me from having to. I've studied his teachings and they can be really useful for getting a feel for a character and helping an actor get in the moment, both things that Beef there fails miserably at. The kid could probably be pretty decent if someone put him through his paces and made him go over the basics again (something all actors need from time to time) but instead they rely on him being a known name, don't challenge him, don't even push him to give the minimal effort and the result is always him failing to pull off any moment but sheer panic realistically, and hearing him yell "NOOO!" over and over again multiple times in every damn movie he's in does not a passable performance make.

• I respect Shia for essentially saying what 90% of the internet thinks. PR move or not, it shows he has a head on his shoulders.

• I still get slapped in the head every time I see that part where they Sh*t-talk the room mate with "go whine to your boyfriend." on top of all the racist caricatures, a homophobic slag was just the turd on top for those two. They were about as much help to that movie as Jar Jar Binks was to the Star Wars prequels.

• 1) (95% of his movies suck, most of the time he just picks shitty movies). 2) Indy, just too much time had passed; no one could have saved that - no one.

• I'm a trained actor, so I know more than you about ac-ting!" Hey, Stanislavski just called from beyond the grave and said to stop being pretentious. How's that community theater production of "No No, Nanette" coming along?

• That would be totally self-centred and unprofessional.

• Half the population died mysteriously overnight. In what way is it stupid that the world fell into chaos?

• I'm not going to say that shia has balls, but walking off in the middle of a filming isn't ballsy. It's a dick move, because a lot of people (cast and crew) are already committed. Now if he complained and refused to work for part two as soon as he read the script (before filming) then I would call that a ballsy movie. There's no way any sane mind could read the script of TF2 and think this it was worth making.

• I enjoyed Crystal Skull, too. Except for the ending, which was pretty horrible, it was good old-fashioned Indy goodness -- certainly no dumber than Temple of Doom.

• All "Y" did was prove women can't do anything on their own. (I don't agree with that) The whole planet falls into savagery because men are gone? And none of them are horny? And they all turn into lesbians? STUPID. Granted, I quit around issue 20, so things may have changed. But man, I was really hoping for something good from that series. Maybe Shia DOES deserve that movie. His fans like crap. So it's a perfect match.

• No. He does not get my respect. It's a BS PR move on his part. If he had real "balls". he'd walk up to Bay and say "You know what we are doing here is really bad, right? I quit." That would be so awesome! Actor walks off a big budget movie half way through filming because he knows it's crap. But I can't believe you fell for this, Rob. As well as some of the readers here.

• I actually didn't think that Crystal Skull wasn't that bad. Of course, I have no love whatsoever for Temple of Doom...

• Exactly. "You lost a bit of the relationships. Unless you have those relationships, then the movie doesn't matter. Then it's just a bunch of robots fighting each other." The human "relationships" are primarily what made me hate the first movie so much I didn't even see the second.

• You should see it. I didn't expect to like it at all from the previews, but I was pleasantly surprised. Sort of a high-tech tribute to Hitchcock films.

• Of all the cheap knock-offs of rear window, it has to be the worst. The acting was uniformly terrible, the dialogue was unrealistic, and the changes from the initial plot pushed it 'beyond the extreme' and into unintentional comedy territory. The coffee house I used to go to (before the owner ran it out of business due to losing interest) had passes for a free screening and I ended up walking out.

• It's because the acting is terrible, the plot makes no sense, they ignore the layout of Chicago completely... etc. It stretches the suspension of disbelief about 100 times further than the breaking point. Oh, and I never saw it, I just saw previews, then presented my guesses about the plot to people I know who'd seen it who confirmed all of them.

• Best. Picture. Ever.

• Shia is a shitty actor. I'm a trained actor and know good from bad, and the kid fucking sucks. Keanu may be wooden, but at least he has managed to TRY to pull off more than one emotion, unlike beef-boy here...

• Exactly! Transformers is called Transformers because it is about giant, transforming, fighting robots. The half of the movie that was like a bad, unfunny college film was actually worse than the part with the robots.

• I'm glad he's being open and self-critical, but Crystal Skull is a good, underrated movie.

• But I want giant robots fighting each other, I couldn't care less about the humans

• I loved "Eagle Eye." Really surprised it was so good. Don't get why it didn't get a better reception.

• This is awesome, and I applaud his self awareness, but Megan Fox's performance in Jennifers Body totally wins for hyper self-awareness and awesomeness. I hated her until that movie, now have mad respect.

• Ass.

• I didn't think Disturbia was too bad.

• you've got a weird obsession with that pick of the Beef, Rob. what are you trying to tell us with it...hm....

• I like the beef and I like TF/TF2 and Crystal Skull. But Crystal Skull is alot like Temple of Doom its not as cool or good as Raiders or Crusade but it has its moments. And Transformers is just pure awesome, its gots Robots punchin' and Killing each other, army porn, boobs and ass shots, and funny... they are good popcorn flicks.

• It's actually a lot more like NONONONONO! NO! NOOOOO! NONONO!

• Best. Picture. Ever.

• I liked Indy 4- the monkeys were sucky, but it was so brief, it didn't wreck the movie for me. Yeah, practical effects for 5, please, as an audience we can spot CGI like pros now. Transformers 2 was horseshit- it embarrassed me as a human being.

• I'm not saying he's the greatest actor in the world or anything like that, but I wouldn't call him "bad" either. And yes, he's got a much better range than Keanu Reeves.

• Criticizing your work long after all the money has been made from it doesn't take balls. If he really really felt that bad he wouldn't been up front back when the films were still in theatres. He's just thinking about his future movies (including TF3) and needs to get as much of the viewing public on his side.

• Aww, but I wanted a nerd argument! Come on, ARGUE WITH ME!

• I used to hate the beef, but now...Yeah, it's easy to criticize your own work when it sucks, but it's much harder when (1) they were financially successful and (2) they involved some pretty big names in Hollywood who could ruin your career. I mean, I hate Crystal Skull, but if I got offered a part in an Indiana Jones movie, I'd probably make a crystal skull in my pants out of nerdish glee.

• No my good sir, screw thyself. I could go on and on about Y: The Last Man, but the post is called "Shia the Beef Has PRETTY GOOD TASTE," three words that shouldn't be used in the same paragraph as Brian K. Vaughn's poorly-written sexual fantasies.

• GREAT PICTURE.

• If he had shown me any real acting talent in any of his stuff, this would actually make me respect him. As it is, he's just a guy that many women find attractive and has somehow managed to be cast in stuff. I think he COULD be a DECENT actor if someone made him go over the basics, but he's more one-note than Keanu Reeves. Still, at least he admits to having made terrible movies. Oh, and anyone who thinks I'm being too hard on the guy and wants to prove LaBeouf's talent: post a link in here of him emoting in a scene and his trademark big "NOOOOOO!" doesn't count, because that's ALL HE EVER FUCKING DOES.

• I only actually fully watched Transformers 2 earlier today and now I can say that I finally get why those twins are so loathed. They even have those gold buck teeth! Christ....

• ...You argue that this kid is capable of quality acting?! Well then, you must put him right up there with Keanu Reeves!

• Yeah, good acting just wouldn't do a terrible comic like Y: The Last Man justice.

• Screw you!

• "It takes serious balls for anyone in Hollywood to criticize their work," By serious balls, do you mean wrecking balls?

• I didn't mind the "monkey swinging" scene, but I'm glad someone involved is acknowledging how nonsensical TF2 was.

• THIS! This here. Falling on your non-fatal sword is a bitch move. Calling out the director/writers/whatever is the manly-never-going-to-work-again move. So, meh.

• Wow. Kinda like how everyone hated Wesley but Wil Wheaton is a pretty cool guy.

• "First of all, The Beef has my infinite respect for saying these things out loud. It takes serious balls for anyone in Hollywood to criticize their work" ------------------- This is just part of Shia's "Love Me" campaign. He's only saying what everyone else in the word already said, then puts all the blame on himself, because he's a "serious actor". If he really had balls, he would have said Crystal Skull sucked because George Lucas jumped the shark a long, long time ago.

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