For the one that made this post... You are an asshole, a sexist, and an asshole though.Down with the sexism
• Jaime Reyes is back as the Blue Beetle! That's cool with me. Much like Kyle Rayner, I always found Reyes to be an infinitely more interesting character than his Silver Age counterpart. I know there are a few vocal Ted Kord fans, but to me, that's like being a vocal fan of white bread. Just... why?
• Martian Manhunter is joining Authority. Well, Stormwatch, but along with Apollo and Midnighter. This strikes me as extremely weird. But the big news is...
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To all of you who are using the excuse that Harley is dressing this way because of her 'liberated sexuality' http://imageshack.us/f/836/756... She isn't. Once again Harley is trying to get the Joker to pay attention to her.
Skimpy new outfit, sex in the bathroom... Honestly if the Joker does come back into the picture what do you think is going to happen? I love Harley Quinn- she is my all-time favorite character, but she is a battered woman.
does DC have to make every super villain a carbon copy of the joker?
I liked harley when she was a goofy demented screwball slightly Psycho sidekick of the joker
I have no sympathy for this version at all
DC deserves to go bankrupt over this crapfest
Food for thought:
The people who are decrying the "slut shaming" and are saying things like "Can't handle a woman showing a little skin, huh?!" are most likely the same people who bitch and moan about women being objectified and overly-sexualized in the first place.
Pick a side and stick with it, people.
chill out. I dont mind the new look at all. I mean big deal, catwoman is usually depicted wearing a skin suit with cleavage that leaves nothing to the imagination. Costumes change all the time.
It's a frikin' costume change. Ranting over "slut this and whore that" when you have basically 90% (at least) of the female characters in the comicverse in SWIMSUITS while superpowered godlike men save the planet with their bulging muscles is ridonkulous.
get over yourself.
cool, can I pretend I don't find the female form attractive too?"NUUUUUU boobies! whayyy???!!!"
yeah, it's Harley, but I'd like Harley no matter what she's wearing.
and showing skin does not = slut
I don't like Harley at ALL. Half of what I loved about her design was that it left it alll to the imagination.I loved the cowl because I knew her big blue eyes were underneat it. I loved the jester hat because when she took it off, she had gorgeous blonde hair in piggy-tails or a pony-tail.The suit was sexier as a full cat-suit, I loved to imagine holding her on my lap!
- It's not only the man-fans who miss the suit's subtlety. We female fans miss it too!
Well, speaking as a fat, bald, old, out-of-touch, suburban, Silver-Age, cracker fanboy, I liked Ted Kord because instead of ANGSTY COSMIC DRAMA, he generally had mundane, relatable problems like insecurity and heart trouble; because he had Peter Principle'd himself up to B-list superhero through competence, not editorial fiat; and mostly, because he and Booster were funny together and made jokes the way my friends and I did.
So go ahead, call me and mine White Bread. We've been called worse. Ted was a nice guy who knew he would finish last for doing the right thing, but did it anyway, and though we are rarer than Northern White Rhino, there are a still a few of us left in this world.
I wish they would stop messing with Harley. I mean really, they make her look like a $20 whore and hell, Arleen isn't even her voice actress in arkham city! C'mon DC get your shit together and stop ruining Harley D:<
Oh, and this is just WAAAAYYYY too reminiscent of Tira from Soul Calibur. : / I'm going to go out on a limb and say that got some inspiration form her? But with Tira, it works. With Harley, it doesn't. It just isn't her.
The thing is, I'm racking my brains, and Harley to my knowledge was never actually a member of the Suicide Squad. : /And for those of you who I'm sure don't know, the Suicide Squad was comprised of Villians who, in exchange for commuted prison sentances, would go on high-risk black-ops missions, top secret to the point that they were deniable assets to the U.S. Government. It was rightly called Suicide because more often than not, there would be someone who was killed on these missions. Whether discovered and put to death or an accident, there was never a confirmation that you would come home.
"I know there are a few vocal Ted Kord fans, but to me, that's like being a vocal fan of white bread. Just... why?"
Becuase Blue and Gold was one of the best best friendships of comicsdom, THAT'S why. Can you name another pair of buddies in the DCU?
I'm going to keep being a vocal Ted Kord fan until I cease to draw breath.
considering that i have a very , very strange and extreme harley quinn fetish, this is fine by me. lmao (adds to spankbank)
Thank you DC for continuing to rape whatever sense of decency you ever once had, and any one thing you've ever had, for that matter.
Your masterful completion over the years of fucking up literally every concept you've ever introduced somewhere down the line of your illustrious history, through useage of either giant, massive universe-changing events that fuck everything up....
Or the small, personal, individual, little touches of every historical concept, character, idea, establishment and concept that you have ever introduced in itself, though big or small that you've lovingly fucked up through personal attention, effort and dedication.
Literally nothing from your entire history, however large or miniscule has ever gone unscathed or desecrated by you, multiple times at the very least.
It's somehow impressive, in a sick, sad, extremely depressing way, just how perfect DC has become at the art of failing.
My hat. It is off.
Have you actually read any comics featuring Ted Kord past his Charleston days? You keep calling him white bread and boring, but Ted's been full of personality since the late 80's. I adore Jaime and am glad he has the name of Blue Beetle and his own book, but there's no need to bash Ted without knowing anything about him...
Now is this new Suicide Squad somehow aligned with the Suicide Girls? Because that could explain things. As a wise old Mr. Horse once said, "No, sir. I don't like it."
Harley Quinn is easily my favorite character in any comic over the past ten years. Am not happy with this design. That being said, since it is Harley, I actually will give her more leeway into making it work then I would other characters. Only a little leeway, though.
Well Poison Ivy is now in a full unitard, so they had to get the material from SOMEWHERE. Besides, maybe it's good for character development. She's done with Mistah J, so she doesn't dress like he wants her to anymore. Well, I can dream, at least.
So, you all know what Bang Bus is, which means that you watch porn, but you can't handle that a comic book character may be dressed like a porn star, which means that you find the porn profession dishonorable. I have to say that, realistically, you can't have it both ways; You either find pornography dishonorable, and refuse to watch it, or you watch it and accept that it is a perfectly honorable profession. The "Madonna/Whore" complex is exemplified at its worst among nerds.
That said, this costume is, canonically, certainly out of character for Harley Quinn.
And that's how the 90's most worthwhile and enduring addition to the Batman franchise was transformed into a cheap knockoff of Daredevil villain Typhoid Mary.
To some degree it's, as Tim Gunn put it, semiotics. Harley Quinn's old outfit was quickly and easily associated with, well, a harlequin. That harlequin imagery translated to an understanding that she was associated with another clown themed character, the Joker. This outfit... Why western pistol holsters? Why a bandoleer? I can sort of understand the throwing knives in relation to a circus act, and the cape, sort of, but the cape is awkward. The rest of her outfit, though, is the sort one typically associates with strippers or streetwalkers. There are revealing costumes which do not carry that implication. Wonder Woman, and even Power Girl manage to not come off as bottom of the barrel sleaze because of how they carry themselves. A powerful look or a winning smile go a long way. This picture, is not the Harley I know. She's not adorable and open, but incredibly dangerous when you look closer. It's just exceedingly hostile. A lot of people say the attitude of this pic seems closer to the Joker, but there's already a guy who sneers like that, the Joker.
If they really want a character with that look, who has a thing for knives and homicide, they could get Rose & Thorn, as I've probably said before.
Why does it matter? Simple, this is artwork meant to express a character and sell a book. The character that's on the page there, doesn't feel, at first, second, or third pass like Harley and that's my problem. Put Bruce Wayne in the exact same outfit but in blue and gray-- it's just as out of character for him-- and now that you have bat-beefcake, I don't think anyone would argue that it's an appropriate look for the character. Maybe if he had bat-pasties, that would be pretty hot.
I dunno know, man. Liked the spandex a lot more for Quinn. Timeless design.Besides, I'm an "outline" kind of guy, versus, well... this.
I don't get it?
Honestly, what is the problem? In a meta example it makes absolutely no difference since she had never wore any tipe of armor but only a full body leotard, so she is having the same amount of defense (meaning none) and it doesn't make it any more impausable or unfitting when one is going to fight.
In a more straight direction: she is sexy?... and this is bad HOW? Don't see how this would affect (if the writing is good) her characterization, her efficiency or her personality. Isn't hypocrite decrying that doing this is degrading when said fans are doing the degrading of the character instantly of how she looks? You haven't even read the story or the dialog and you are stating she is unworthy in aesthetics alone? Shouldn't we be able to see beyond "boobies" before making any asumption. In fact, Isn't this article is doing exactly as its accusing the author to do, lowering a good writen character sorely for how her looks?
Maybe Im thinking too much or I had simply become sickening of all the Nerd bemoaning of sexuality, like a panicked 22 year old in the Dark Age of Superheroes, instead of screaming how "hardcore" and "mature" comic is, now vomiting how pro-feminist (which is not, by the way- or at least its more in line with Militant Feminism, if a little) and enlightened they are, how witty they are and how thoughtfull they are when they demand things to be more considerated and respectable for the Fair sex (You Go Girl).
It makes one sound equally vanal, immature and panicked shamed Fan who is trying desesperately to win approval from people who could care less (or only care in the sense of crytizing) about the medium in the first place.
Yes, it looks irrealistic. So is 99% of the entire comic Verse and its, might remind you, an escapism work ? Are you seriously stating that a top and some shorts are destroying your Sense of Disbelief in the comic industry? In a work with the Suicide Squad?
Oh, by the way, excellent for you to call her an Slut. And a whore. Because she is obviously is, dressing like that instead of some respectable jeans and a sweater. Since she isn't capable of having any sense of personality, intelligence, morality or any worth whatsoever. That isn't anything misogynist and degrading. At. All. Surely it shows how tolerant and far thinking you are and how much respect you had for the character in the first place.
Well wathever. I honestly liked her how she looks, like a demented version of Alice in Wonderland (not like in the game) and her smile is so Joker that its sent shivers to my spine. The hair is so-so and the small cape really doesn't work (it would have been better if she had gloves or instead of bullets were knife but yea). The entire look create an image of violence, of uncontrolled rage, of the madness (almost Lovecraftian with the background) that is about to be unleashed. Hell, even her pose is less about a poster girl and more like an animal ready to strike and you can bet she is going to enjoy every single second of it.
I only hope that the story can make justice to this picture.
I gotta say, DC was really smart to pick up some licensing and team up with one of the premiere feminist voices of the generation on this new book:http://img830.imageshack.us/im...
Also, I'll be surprised if there isn't a controversy over Midnighter and Apollo. Not because their gay, but because they're gay murderous superheroes. Authority was probably a lot more murdery, but now that they're in mainstream DC, aren't Gay groups gonna complain that the one gay couple is a negative example for gayness? Unless...welll, I guess if they dial back on the murderness.Time will tell.
yyyyup there's basically no credibility to your complaints about Harley's new outfit when it's directly under your favorite photo of a big-tittied Power Girl cosplayer.
POWER. COMPANY. PLEASE.
BRING IN THE POWER COMPANY.
THE DC UNIVERSE NEEDS MORE POWER COMPANY.
MAKE A POWER COMPANY TV SHOW.
IT'S CALLED THE FREAKING POWER COMPANY. IT'S RUN BY A BIG GUY NAMED MR. POWER. IT HAS AN EVEN BIGGER GUY IN IT. HOW IS THIS NOT A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FRANCHISE?!
seriously, it writes its own marketing. I would love someone to care about the Power Company again.
god knows how flash points going to effect it but in the latest birds of prey issues shes kind of had a proper mental breakdown and seems a lot crazier than usual, maybe this is the end result of that?
I mean you can only be the jokers beaten wife for so long before you snap in a buffalo bill kinda way and not her usual "aint i a stinker" kind of way y'know? it had to take a toll on her eventually. and how would dc express that in art form? grimdark emo harley thats how.
-also, i just noticed, she is wearing cowboy gun holsters, a little cape and a victorian ruff. I'm guessing her level of crazy just squared or something.
Guess the relaunch is already planning a crossover; looks like Harley is teaming up with Hammerhead and IG-88 from STAR WARS.
Hopefully this is just a stylized cover or something, and not the real costume? I do like the pigtails, though, and the viciousness of her face. The corset is just dumb.
The problem with that statement is being able to tell which gender Marilyn Manson was to begin with.
Then you need to learn an appreciate a woman's curves in spandex, and the style of leaving the goods to the imagination, rather than having them flop out for all and sundry to stare at. Harley was cute/crazy sexy personified, this costume makes her look like a whorish Rodeo Clown.
Other than the hair, this new outfit completely sucks. What have they done to my poor Harley??



