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What's Frodo doing in The Hobbit? I don't want to spoil too much, but I can say that Frodo is part of the connecting tissue between The Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring.
In fact, the next shot was an over the shoulder on Elijah Wood hammering a sign up on Bag End's front gate: "No Admittance Except On Party Business." You guys should have an idea where that puts this moment in the timeline.
Specifically, at the end of the second Hobbit movie so it ends about half an hour before Fellowship of the Ring begins. I don't think linking the two projects is strictly necessary -- is anyone really going to be confused that The Hobbit is part of the LotR saga once Ian McKellan pops up as Gandalf? -- but it's also hardly the end of the world. Anyways, it's nice to have Frodo's role confirmed, lest anyone worry that Bilbo was going to suggest to the dwarves that they take his inexplicably full-grown nephew along to Lonely Mountain. Thanks to Jamey for the tip.
Well Bilbo is only supposed to be 50 in the Hobbit. I can't imagine an 110 year old hobbit doing everything he did. You try facing Smaug at 110! Also in the books, Frodo is 50 when he leaves for his journey, when celebrating Bilbo's 111, I do believe they made him younger. Age consistency errors are gonna irk me. Doesn't mean I won't see it though. Although if it is in Flashback form, I'll have no problem whatsoever.
They really should have let someone else have a go at this.
Ah, but I'm one of those tiny minority that prefers the original children's "Hobbit" over the later "Lord-of-the-Rings-prequel" version.
And here I thought they were just going to do time travel or something else un-LOTR-like but so very Hollywood.
Perhaps they'll frame the narrative by making "The Hobbit" a story that Bilbo is recalling to his young nephew?
Eh, I can't say I care or, at least, don't find it an awful thing. It seems like it could be a nice scene and if it does fit as tightly together with the Lord of the Rings movies as Rob is guessing, it seems like a clever bit of advertising. The scene will practically beg for you, the viewer at home, to immediately put in the Fellowship of the Ring during one of those ill-advised "let's watch the Lord of the Rings" marathons. I wouldn't be surprised if the two Hobbit films will have four hour extend editions...so you can expect to be stuck watching for...twenty to twenty-three hours of the stuff?
Meh, I can live with flashbacks. As long as he doesn't have Bilbo suddenly stop in the middle of a chase to go ice skating like King Kong, I'll be happy.
I dont see why people are bitching about this. So there are going to be connecting bits that have Bilbo recounting the events of the film to Frodo (or something like that), big fucking deal. Jackson isn't changing the story in some drastic way and is not belittling the audiences intelligence.
Ive lost a lot of nerd cred forgetting Third Age history, but aren't the Hobbit and LOTR 60 years apart with next to nothing happening?
You are pretty much right, but that does not matter. The story will (most likely) be told in flashbacks or something.
I wouldn't put it past Peter Jackson to chuck the plot and have Frodo be the hero of The Hobbit instead of Bilbo. After that godawful King Kong remake, Jackson's been pretty deep on my shit list.
But what if that is from the beginning of the movie? Like say it starts with Frodo putting up the sign, then we go inside and Biblo starts telling the story of how he found the ring?
This could also lead to some interesting FFF....
Huh.
Well, it satisfies the movie-goers who doesn't give a lick of shit for the books, and shuts the fanboys up who doesn't give a lick of shit for the movies. For now, anyways. Bottom line: good call.
by the way, Rob, there's still a non-zero possibility that this flick won't get made (or finished) :)
Considering how much corporate poo flinging has been following this one I'd say a double digit chance. But it was written by the same persons (I understand they are represented by false names in the credits) who turned LotR into from an incoherent pile of words (those books were so padded out as to be unreadable) into something well worth watching. That this script exists is a good thing, it makes me happy, The Hobbit was the first book I ever read way back as a six year old (took me about eight months to finish) and I re-read it every six years.
It actually is essential that it is done this wayThe Hobbit was written in character by Bilbo - after the eventsLotR was not written this way - it's objective not subjectiveIf you don't set this after then you lose the perspective it was told from and all the distortion that comes with it.You'd have to completely rewrite the whole thing to make it an objective story instead of a subjective one OR have the orginal subjective story with no particular point of reference which would be stupid
Wasn't Lord of the Rings written by Frodo? It's been a while and I could be confusing details.
This isn't for continuity. It's a cast reunion that people are getting paid for. :P That said, if I got to be part of such a massive and well-executed film franchise, I'd do whatever the hell I wanted with the friends that I made on the journey, accuracy be damned.
I'm with you on that Rob. While not a big deal it is totally unnecessary. I've never understood why movie makers seem to think we are all idiots. Did they think we wouldn't know they were connected because the titles not called, "Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit" we morons would be confused. I'm sure if the Hobbit, Dwarves, Shire and Gandalf didn't give it away the very similar ring would. It's like Lucas saying he connecting RotS woth RofJ with Darth Vader shouting, "NOOOOO!" What? Did you think the Lightsabers, use of force, and names were not enough?
I'm an idiot but give me just a tiny bit of credit.
They don't think WE'RE the idiots, it's the general audiance. You know, the ones that probably think books are novelizations of the movie. There has been a gap of almost a decade between these new films and the previous one. Honestly, I think this scene will serve as a way to jog peoples memory about the Lord of the Rings story, and allow people who haven't been so engrossed in the fiction as we have help make the connections in some "Ah-ha!" moments.
This continuity is as retarded as pasting an image of ghost Hayden Christensen in at the end of Jedi. Yes, I went there.....
Hold on lemme check...okay, no, actually it's not. Putting Legolas in the movie is more like the ROTJ debacle, but still comes nowhere near close to it.
Thought about typing "First!" and leaving it at that because of the whole AICN angle, but my dignity - such as it is - wouldn't let me.
Yeah, not even ironically. But I can't help but think of the "First!" zombies when AICN is mentioned.
Hey Lucas rewrite Vader... is it ever cool to type 'Firsties! In a blog?'
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