• Remember when I joked about the DCnU-er? Uh.... sorry about that. Because DC is about to launch "a 'Second Wave' of titles as part of its historic DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 initiative!" according to its website, with six new series including Batman Inc., Earth-2, Worlds' Finest, Dial H, G.I. Combat, and The Ravagers, all out in May. Totally coincidentally, DC is also shitcanning six series, including Blackhawks, Men of War, Hawk and Dove, Mister Terrific, Static Shock and OMAC. I wonder how devoted DC is having 52 comics released every single month. I also wonder how devoted they are to releasing at least one straight war comic per month that no one will ever read.
• Spoiler alert! If you've not read the newest issue of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 9 comics -- specifically issue #5 -- look away. Did those people look away? Okay, good. Apparently Buffy is pregnant now. There's been a lot of crazy shit happening in the recent Buffy comics, but this... I don't know, man. I liked season 8, except that horrible Jeph Loeb bit. But I'm having a hard time seeing this working out without Buffy pulling the same shit that Angel did with Connor. I'll give it a chance, but I am not expecting good things out of this. (Via Blastr)
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So Logan is just gonna play with himself? LOL!
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Gaaaah! Who in their right mind would buy all of Flashpoint? Flashpoint was so bad that I ended up figuring it was a ploy to make DC fans actually look forward to the New 52. @tetrisdork:disqus : The Huntress thing gives me an irk--I've been reading the Huntress mini (which is great), and in the first issue you see clearly that this is Bertinelli, but the last few issues had hints that it was Wayne, but when I queried Marcus To early on about who it was he indicated that it was Bertinelli (admittedly anecdata) and Harras said in the press release that Helena Wayne was the Huntress in Worlds' Finest, and...I'm just wondering if they're going to do a Bertinelli/Wayne merge, or if there will be two Huntresses, which doesn't seem to jibe with DC's whole "we're trying to streamline things and make them easier to understand for new readers!" schtick. tl;dr I love Helena Bertinelli. Don't leave me, Helena! :B
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Meh. Have Spider-Man and Ms. Marvel boned, yet?
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I'm glad to see it go, what with "cor blimey" as every british expression and "arse" in the first issue. Yup.
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But Flash had to give Captain Cold Iceman's powerset :(
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It's semi-new, I mean at least circa CoIE, those stories were sorta wrapped up or easily explained. IC established a new universe that pretty much held all the classic DC stuff as having happened in the past, with minor alterations here and there (Lovers and Madmen seeming to serve as a new Joker origin, for example). FC did not alter the landscape at all, and with "Crisis" Flashpoint, most books were barely wrapped up before Barry's fumbling a timeball lead to everyone getting a brand new DC, which while annoying in how every book took 5 issues to cross over and used established arcs on Batman and Green Lantern, did entirely reboot everything else in its universe, which had never been done 'out of nowhere' and lead to the most hype they had in awhile.
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I approve this message and how it seems to point out that House of M was the beginning of the mundane foundation Marvel has used ever since.
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I agree about Marvel. I have a friend who bought every tie-in to Fear Itself and I wept a little for him on the inside - it was costing him around $100 a month (he may have also been buying all of Flashpoint as well at the time).
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That sound you hear is Satan cackling in triumph, as his first plan of the new year to fuck up nerddom has came to fruition. Oh don't worry, he's not done yet. Next, he'll turn Wonder Woman into an emotionless fuck-machine worthy of the rape rack. Seriously, fuck the new 52!
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New 52 has been a blast. That Scott Snyder is bringing it on Batman & Swamp Thing. Love that Batwoman, GL and All Star Western. I am way more excited for this Council of Owls business than I ever will be about X-Men vs. Avengers. Again.
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Why haven't the villains conquered the world yet? I mean the heroes are too busy fighting each other to bother with them, anyway...
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Ironically, there almost never are long-term repercussions because the incoming writers always seem to openly reject any recent continuity that's been established in favor of a "bold, new direction."
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My reaction about DC dropping six of their "new" comics: Blackhawks: still reading was mildly interested in story. Here hoping for a good conclusion Men of War: stopped reading after 2 issues; could not get into story, did not like art Hawk and Dove: Read up to issue 4 and could did not like both main characters together, hate Hawk. Hope Dove move over to JLD Mister Terrific: Still reading and while I was not planning to drop the title I am not upset on it being canceled Static Shock: dropped after 3 issues OMAC: stopped reading after three issues but was planning to try a mass reading of issues 4-6 to see if I could get to like it.
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My reaction about DC dropping six of their "new" comics: Blackhawks: still reading was mildly interested in story. Here hoping for a good conclusion Men of War: stopped reading after 2 issues; could not get into story, did not like art Hawk and Dove: Read up to issue 4 and could did not like both main characters together, hate Hawk. Hope Dove move over to JLD Mister Terrific: Still reading and while I was not planning to drop the title I am not upset on it being canceled Static Shock: dropped after 3 issues OMAC: stopped reading after three issues but was planning to try a mass reading of issues 4-6 to see if I could get to like it.
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clearly this has been on your mind for some time :)
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I thought it was getting uninteresting around issues 3 and 4. I did enjoy the backup story in issue 4 though about the weapons suit malfunctioning.
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I'm also sad Blackhawks is going bye-bye too. I thought it hit its stride in issue 4 and was a good GI Joe-type clone. I'm pissed that Men of War was cancelled, mainly because I was planning on dropping it next month but won't now because of completionist purposes. And, I believe that they are using the original Earth-2 Huntress (daughter of Earth-2 Batman and Earth-2 Catwoman), who was reintroduced in the recent Huntress mini (might check that out in trade format) last time I checked.
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I listed to an interview with the writers, I think it was Matt Fraction who mentioned debuting a new set of armor for a specific fight. I don't know why he didn't come right out and say it - it was immediately obvious that it was a new armor set to fight Magneto.
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I have that Thing vs Hulk collection too! Holy shit did I love that when I was a little twerp.
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Isn't Squirrel Girl working as a nanny for a couple of The Avengers?
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What possible reason would these two teams have to fight each other now? I would think after 40 years they'd be so familiar with teach other that no amount of "misunderstanding" would make them come to blows. And I love the "AvX" thing. See, that tells us this is going to be "hip" and "cool" and not "your father's crossover".
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Yes, I will grant you that hero vs. hero stories are as old as pulp, but it used to be that the heroes would fight over some misunderstanding, then eventually realize their mistake and work together for the common good. Nowadays, they end with "Long term repercussions and wounds that will never heal."
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I don't really think DC did anything new, this sort of reboot has been done tons of times in comics, especially in the DCu. They're just as guilty of up hauling their characters to cash in as everyone else.
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There are still some out there. Slotts run on Spider-man, Invincible, The Flash, and oddly enough Deadpool, have the characters happy (mostly) fighting villains and feeling in type for their characters
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I am not a huge iron man fan so I have no idea honestly. In all my years of reading and buying comics I do not think I have ever bought a straight up Iron Man book.
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Hrm Iron Man vs Magneto eh? ************************ "Magneto, you foul beast, stand down or prepare to get blasted with my laser palm cannons!", Iron Man shouts as he hovers about the battlefield on his thruster jets. "You fool, Iron Man. I am Magneto, Master of Magnetism", Magneto doesn't bother to shout, he simply states his case calmly as he hovers on his mystic powers of magnetism. Iron Man's flight path wobbles a little bit as he thinks for a second and then he realises that he forgot to Magnet-Proof™ his suit yesterday. 'Damn Hawaii!', Tony thinks to himself. 'Perhaps I can bluff.' "Oh Magneto, you silly old bastard. You really think I have not prepared to face what could be my greatest weakness?", Iron Man calls out as he starts powering up his left hand cannon. "Indeed Iron Man. I can feel the metal from here." Magneto makes a curious twisting gesture with his hand and suddenly Iron Man's suit de-constructs itself, capacitors and transistors raining down on the city below. They pause for a second, Magneto opens his eyes in shock, "I didn't... I... You're commando!", Magneto blushes a little as looks at Tony Stark's perfect 'stark' body. Tony Stark has a small smile on his face as he activates his secret power to defeat Magneto. His raw animal magnetism! Then he begins falling to his death. 'I hope this works', he thinks to himself.Magneto blushes as he eyes off Tony's body, pausing for a second as he imagines what he'd like to do to... 'Wait! I Can!', he thinks to himself. 'Without his suit he is totally at my mercy!' He uses his gravitational powers to fly over and catch Tony in his strong burly arms, his ice blue eyes meeting Tony's, then he looks up and rips the window frame out of a nearby hotel window. He flies in through the wrecked window and throws Tony down onto the bed, using his powers of magnetism to warp the metal decorations at the foot and head off the bed. Effectively handcuffing Tony to the bed. Magneto then removes his helmet and calls a small flat piece of metal to his hand. "So Mr Tony Stark, I believe I was just about to beat your ass...." He says as Tony lies on the bed and smiles up at him.... ********* What? It's already Friday here in Australia. I'm allowed.
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I think it's hilarious that the artist drew her like she was about to punch the Hulk. Uh... no, in diamond form, she still isn't that strong. (Whereas the Hulk <i>is</i> strong enough to seriously threaten diamond. Or pseudo-diamond.) Also hilarious: the Hulk is ripping apart shreds of his shirt. Not ripping <i>off</i> the shreds of his shirt (which would make a little sense). Not ripping his shirt off (which would almost make sense, except by now his shirt would already be ripped off.) He's ripping apart the shreds of his shirt. With his fingers. Basically, he's so dismissive of the concept of being punched by the White Queen that in his boredom he's pulling the scrappy remains of his shirt to pieces.
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I don't recall seeing anyone say anything positive about Mister Terrific until some of the comments above.
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Emma loses her telepathic powers and is also shielded from telepathic powers when in diamond form. That was all established under Morrison, but being Morrison, he didn't spell out everything. Still, enough writers seemed to have caught on to it to keep it going. If she stays in it long enough, her emotions also start shutting down. That became an issue in the kind of crappy "I have a sliver of the Void stuck in me" storyline.
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When did Colossus become the new Juggernaut? In Uncanny X-Men during Fear Itself. Juggernaut was going to San Francisco. For magical plot reasons, the X-Men couldn't stop him. (The Fear Itself big bad's power just overwhelmed everything they did.) So Magick, Colossus, and moral tag-a-long to be shocked at what happens (aka Kitty Pryde) went to Cyttorak to tell him that his avatar of destruction had gotten a new boss. Cyttorak took back his power from Juggernaut and gave them to Colossus, Kitty got angry at both Magick and Colossus, and Juggernaut Colossus went back and for magical plot reasons was able to whallop Fear Itself Juggernaut, who then was teleported away for magical plot reasons. End result is Colossus is the new Juggernaut. He now has anger issues, wants to break stuff, and his relationship with Kitty is on the rocks again.
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That's my problem; the total lack of distinction between things metal and things magnetic, as if all things metal are ferrous. That aside. I don't follow these things closely but I thought the whole heart issue had been resolved ages ago?
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Iron man has fought Magneto before with a non magnetic suit. Didn't matter. Especially when he has metal fragments so close to his heart.
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Am I the only one saddened by the canceling of Men of War? It was the only one of those six that I was reading...
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...I liked O.M.A.C.... :,,,,,(
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For a tie-in, Magneto will actually make an appearance in Turn Off the Dark, where he will fight Titanium Man. They're just having trouble writing a song for it.
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Also weird: Nerds on the internet are still allowed to get pissed at this kind of stuff. How about that.
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I read most of Buffy Season 8 and thought it was just fucking ridiculous. I was a big fan of the series, and I thought that Joss and Jane Epstein did a good job at capturing the characters dialogue and translating it to comics. That being said, the storyline was fucking awful, the high point being Buffy traveling in time and having an arc with Melaka Fray. The rest was rubbish, a pure unadulterated shitbomb of half baked ideas and just straight up weirdness.
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Damn, I was hoping Static would get to stick around... Sad sad news. I really thought i was getting in on the ground level on a good character.
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Mister Terrific is the Eureka of comics - quirky with a high-concept. Most critics love it and it has a loyal but loud fanbase, but the sales just aren't there. OMAC has been more mixed. The Kirby purists LOVE it. Most everyone else was kind of indifferent, I think.
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O.M.A.C. yes, but until I read the comment to up from this one I didn't know anyone liked Mr. Terrific.... but critical acclaim only goes so far if no one is buying the damn thing.
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Emma's super-durable, but The Hulk is easily strong enough to break diamond. What's more worrying is that in diamond form (at least, last I checked) Emma couldn't use her telepathy, which is the one way she MIGHT be able to win a fight. Unless that particular writer has decided that The Hulk's rage is such that no telepath can get a hold of anything long enough to read it or control it.
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Yes, because people are actually buying those. Weird how they didn't cancel the books that are selling more. Strange strange world we live in, tune in next week as we all wonder why CSI is still on TV and why Transformers keeps getting sequels.
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No joke. For all the crap among the New 52 titles, at least DC was trying something new and original on a large scale with a lot of characters and creators. This is just the same old crap that was tired when they did this during World War Hulk. And in Civil War before that. And in House of M before that...
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Wasn´t Mister Terrific and O.M.A.C two of the more praised comics of the 52?
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Well, I imagine that DC will keep doing 52 comics so long as they're essentially subsidized by their overlords. From what I've read, I've been led to understand that, while Marvel actually is expected to make money (they had to do that when they were on their own, and Disney doesn't want a money-losing division), DC is more of an IP farm and as such finances don't matter quite as much. I think that's part of the reason they went back down to 2.99.
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Sad but not surprised that Mister Terrific has been canceled. It was one of the best truly new titles to come out of the New 52, truly original and well-written. Of course it was written by one of the guys who wrote Eureka, so we should have seen this coming, I suppose. Hopefully they'll be allowed to close-out the inter-dimesional storyline and Michael Holt will wind up on Earth 2 with the JSA... I'm also sad that Static Shock is getting canceled though again - not surprised given how quickly the original writer jumped ship and how the series started in mid-stream, with a subplot about Virgil's older sister being cloned and his family trying to cope with this in the wake of moving, Virgil's new job, Virgil's new school and it being a requirement to know who Hardware and all these other characters are in what was meant to be a new series for new readers.
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Another piece of promo art had The Thing fighting Juggernaut Colossus (btw, when did that happen?). Sadly, Ben is still wearing those stupid black and white overalls.
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I assume that the quote in the ad above is from Hulk, talking about himself in the third person. If so, I have a feeling Emma's going to get a lot more out of this fight than she expected. GAMMA BUKAKE!
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I read the first bullet as "Marvel's been releasing Avengers Vs. X-Men *porno* pics of individual characters facing off." Still not Friday yet.
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Because writers today are basically writing the fan fiction they didn't get to when they were teenagers. They think they have to be all grown-up and stuff. Everybody's trying to write Watchmen. That's part of the reason why Marvel & DC can't capitalize better than they are over the rising interest in super-hero movies and super-heroes in general. But, to be fair, hero vs. hero stories are a time-honored tradition. Somewhere around here I have a collection called "Thing vs. Hulk," chronicling their greatest fights from the 60s to the 90s. Hero vs. hero fights were the basis of the Amalgam event in the 90s. And I don't know how many times I've seen Batman pull out his hidden stash of Kryptonite to kick the crap out of Superman.
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I'm sad that Blackhawks is going. I like that title a lot. Looking forward to seeing how Morrison manages to jibe Batman, Inc. with the current doin's. Will be picking up Earth-2 and Worlds' Finest, although DC, please 'splain to me about which Huntress we will actually be seeing. Avengers vs X-Men, I care naught. I just hate it when Marvel crossovers touch every goddamn book they release.
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Agreed on OMAC; that's been one of the most purely entertaining comics I've read in a long while and I'm sad to see it go.
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Hulk vs Emma has to be the stupidest match up right? Does she have super strength in diamond form? Size wise, couldn't the Hulk, I don't know... just kick her and send her flying a few states away? Wouldn't Hulk vs Juggernaut Colossus make more sense?
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Yea, I was about to say. I didn't what to be "that guy" but I'm pretty sure by now Ironman's armor would be impervious to magneto. Besides, even on the horrible oversight that it somehow wasn't, I'm sure Tony would have some built in magnetic damper or counter device. Ironman's one of my favorites and I've stuck through them butchering him through Civil War and then again through secret invasion and again through siege/most wanted arcs, but if they honestly make Tony Stark too stupid to not think "hey this guy is called Magneto, better make this shit magnet proof" I'm done. But who am I kidding, they'll probably make him think "Magneto, Magneto...that rhymes with neato! And you know what else is really neato? A new suit of armor made from actual Iron!!!" /rant
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I'm actually kinda intrigued as to what they'll do with pregnant!Buffy. Downright fascinated, actually. There are plenty of women who must wonder "now what?" in this situation, so I'm kinda wondering how they'll tackle this. I'm weirdly shooting for an abortion just for the ballsiness of the move.
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He got better.
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Haven't picked up a Marvel (or DC) comic in years, but the only match-up from those promos that look like it could be good is the Ms Marvel vs Rogue. Rogue did F'up Ms Marvel back in the 80's by stealing her powers and for a while Ms Marvel held a big grudge. Spidey vs. Iceman? Rob you asked "shouldn't someone think about Firestar and Ms Lion?" Personally, I think it should be Firestar vs Ms Lion in an epic battle to see who gets to date Videoman.
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OMAC? They're cancelling OMAC? That makes me upset.. that was sheer, undiluted crazyfun. I am ALL for getting rid of Hawk and Liefeld, Blackhawks, Men of War, and Mister Terrific, but I am definitely sad to see OMAC and Static Shock go. Of course, that's mainly just because I love the idea of Static Shock more than the comic, but OMAC was just crazyfun.
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"Totally coincidentally, DC is also shitcanning six series, including Blackhawks, Men of War, Hawk and Dove, Mister Terrific, Static Shock and OMAC." ...And yet the critically-panned & despised-by-fans comics featuring talking f*** dolls that were once popular DC female characters move on. I repeat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t44EAsLwGWA
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The Iron Man suit should be non-ferrous... not that such minor facts have stopped Magneto in the past, adamantium is supposed to be non-ferrous as well. meh.
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I must be old, because I remember a time when heroes actually fought villains instead of talking politics, or acting like Jack Bauer on 24, or just slugging it out with each other. Why are comic writers so embarrassed to let heroes do good deeds and ever be anything resembling happy?
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I thought Thor was dead
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