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You know I am going to be an optimist and hope this just means they are revealing an Ultimates Ben Reilly. By which I mean a clone that might be a clone, but isn't sure if he is a clone or the real one, and then is a clone, but since the original is dead just calls himself Peter Parker.
Marvel is doing the Clone Saga again with Ultimate Spider-man, doing the whole "oh it was a clone that really died." This means the actual introduction of the Ultimate Jackal.
It's more likely just a Venom(Flash Thompson)/Scarlet Spider(Ben Reilly)/Spider-Man (Peter Parker) team-up or something.
Crossover between the 616 universe and the ultimate universe is a weak idea. Just bring back Peter Parker. Why is it the Goblin can just continue to evolve every time he "dies" but Peter gets removed by a gut shot? They both have the same OZ formula running in their veins. And before all the "but miles is so awesome cause he's such a new character..." BS. He's the same character. Besides, even if Peter came back there is little chance he could be spiderman again. He's now too famous; he could never be a street level vigilante again. He could, however, be elevated into a more prestigious gig. I'm still waiting for them to rebuild the fantastic 4 and he would make a great Mr. Fantastic. I'd love to see them push his character in that direction. His death was stupid and unnecessary.
FUCK!
I was REALLY looking forward to reading the MM trades as they come out. Now it just feels like a stunt.
so no one thinks it's a lot more likely that that's just the Scarlet Spider's logo (no one noticed Miles stole that logo from him either I guess) and that this is just going to be some standard crossover between Amazing Spider-Man and the new Scarlet Spider-Man book that Marvel is hyping up to the gullible and easily confused masses? oooooooook.
Honestly, if Marvel somehow downplays Miles Morales, I quit comics. Forever. For good this time. I mean it. Seriously. Yup.
Don't judge me.
As someone whose only experience with Spiderman was the movie that came out near the beginning of the last decade, I can't say I'm particularly thrilled. I actually did start reading Miles!Spider-Man in my local shop because I figured 'why not?' and also because I needed to kill about half an hour. It's going to be sad if they're giving him the boot already.
Spider-Man wasn't really a character I had been interested in prior to now and I guess I sort of like Miles because he's not bogged down with several decades worth of convoluted shenanigans and I could experience his journey alongside him.
Oh wait, it's a different Spider-Man and Miles isn't getting the boot already?
Well okay then. I can live with this.
Here's to hoping to see more of Miles in the future! Keep on keepin' on, little bro.
Why are we so sure this is Ultimate Spider-man-related? That isn't Miles' logo. Well, it is. But it was Ben Reilly's logo first.
I mean, we're just laying the foundation for a future series where the name "Spider-Man" is franchised to individuals who also were bitten by radioactive, or genetically altered, arachnids (there's more us out there then you'd think) and provide training to them in superheroing.
I like to call it "Spider-Corp."
I knew a guy who got bit by a radioactive spider. But he just started hiding in woodpiles.
yeah... this seems like a desperate move... seeing as how they realize they got a lot of backlash and heat for killing peter parker..
that would be so fucked up if they brought back peter parker ultimate and pushed miles into the backround..miles is the best thing to happen to comics in a long time not just in the ultimates universe but in all comics ..it has the potential to be the best non white comic that would stay relative whit great stories and great carachters and not just fizzle out like they do whit other non whit characters..and they dont need to team him whit white characters to carry the series like they do whit other black or latino super heroes..the new ultimate spider man is strong enough story wise and great potential on its own..
In the next 3 issues we'll see a robot Spiderman, an energy spiderman and an 8 year old kid Spiderman...Then when this event starts Peter Parker returns...
Goddamn it. I thought that the death of Peter Parker in the Ultimate Universe was one of the coolest, emotional, well-written comic book deaths ever. Waaaay better than when they "killed" Johnny Storm for a half minute. This didn't have to be inevitable, especially in the Ultimate Universe. They never had to play by traditional rules of resurrecting dead characters within a year or two. Leave it to Marvel to follow suit and tarnish a good thing.
It would be interesting if we ever got an Ultimate Universe where major characters aged, died, and didn't come back, but I think it was a little unrealistic to expect that. As long as Ultimate Spider-Man is going to bring in serious money, Marvel will find a way to bring back Peter Parker. It's a business, and they're going to maximize their profits as best they can, and Peter Parker = more dollars.
I lost interest in the Ultimate Universe as soon as it became apparent that they were still running on the ridiculous, paralysing "comic book time". Why can I not read about superheroes who age, normally? I'd much prefer that. Not least because we could then have some proper continuity.
That's not the Ultimate Peter Parker Logo, it is the 616 Spider-man
It is a cross over between normal Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-man Miles, ties into the end of the "ends of the Earth arc".
Dan Slott (the reason that Spider-man is amazing right now) confirmed this is a cross over, and not the return of Ultimate Peter Parker.
Really? I remember how they were pretty adamant (ti-um) about those universes not crossing over back in the day. I just hope they can meet without Peter or Miles making some lame smarmy racial glib about each other.
I remember an issue of x-men or wolverine where Wolverine wakes up from a dream about being ripped in half by the hulk, which was referencing events that took place in Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk.
Meh. Divorcing the Ultimate Universe from the Marvel multiverse entirely would have been better.
That being said, I can't really begrudge them doing a crossover, since everyone except me loves crossovers.
They more invented the Zombie universe rather then a cross over.
But they were very adamant with their rules in the ultimate marvel universe, but at this point they seem to have backed off on a majority of their rules. I think 12 years was long enough to wait for the cross over.
I mean it took them how long to back off from the dead is dead rule with Beast, and Magneto, and how many others at this point.
The Ultimate Four crossed over with the Zombie universe, where the idea for the ongoing series came from, and the Squadron Supreme revamp universe. But as far as I know, this'll be the first team up of Ultimate and 616.
I know there might be some good stories still produced. But how can anyone still give Ultimate Marvel any money after the rape train Jeph Loeb ran through it?
Because, other then the Ultimates, the Ultiamte Marvel books are so much better then the majority of the regular 616 book by a mile.
You have no one to blame but yourselves, white male comic book fans.
Because you're who the editors think were pissed off by Miles.
I'm a white male Ultimate Spider-Man fan and I have not bought a single issue of Miles. And why should I? Ultimate Spider-Man was Peter's story. Peter dies, the story ends. Doesn't matter if his replacement is black, white, tan, pale, blue, or even green. I am proud that I haven't bought Miles and proud that I will resume buying when Peter comes back.
You are the worst, stupidest kind of comic book fan. You are the reason this stupid, recycled shit keeps happening, and will never stop happening. I hate you.
I buy what I like and I make no apologizes for it. Sorry that we disagree. I certainly don't hate you.
I disagree. What was stupid was to kill off a beloved character, in a stupid manner, and then replace him with the exact same character but with a different skin color. Do I care if they replaced Peter as spiderman? No. Hell, I think they should have evolved his character into the new mr. fantastic since they made reed richards the new dr. doom. Why is everytime a writer wants to do something "groundbreaking" all they can think of is to kill off yet another character? That's good story telling, that's lazy and been done a million times. This entire replacement has been nothing more than a cheap stunt in which we basically get to re-read the same ultimate spiderman stories that they already told the last few years. You, Dpin, are the worst, stupidest kind of comic book fan who falls for the same stupid shit year after year and thinks:
death and replacement = novel storytelling.
It doesn't.
no the people pissed off were racists who never read comics before anyway and thought it was 616 Peter who died
Rorschachs journal February 2012-Found pathetic Spider-ridden attempt to beat the Watchmen prequels in internet based nerdy popularity... Marvel's afraid of me, Iv'e seen its true face, The comic lines are extended gutters and the gutters are full of lame, predictable ideas and when the drains finally scab over, they'll have to reboot again. The accumulated filth of all their humdrum ideas will foam up about their waists and Stan Lee will look up and shout "Save me!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No."
Damn, was just about to post something similar but you beat me to it and much better to boot.
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