I'm sure this video is just meant for fun, and we should assign no real gender politics to it, but still, seeing Wonder Woman make a sandwich in a kitchen is hard to process in its horrible, horrible misogynist ramifications. All I know is this:
• There's no way that accent is real. She makes Sofia Vergara sound like Judi Dench.
• I don't expect this to be The Mary Sue's new favorite YouTube video.
• Is it better or worse that Wonder Woman is making the world's simplest sandwich? "Step 1: Put ingredients on bread. Step 2: Uh, eat it."
• Meanwhile, DC Editorial doesn't see a problem with this video, except Wonder Woman should have offered to have had emotionless sex with the sandwich afterwards.
• Chances of Superman and Batman watching football in the next room: 100%
• That sandwich is fucking terrible. Come on, Wonder Woman -- if you're going to throw your entire gender under the bus, at least do it with a sandwich that doesn't involve bologna or American cheese.
Thanks to Alex R. for the tip.
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She sounds like Vanessa Del Rio trying to win a bet about how long she can keep a Lifesaver from melting on her tongue.
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Ask the Duggars.
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Nothing's wrong with it; not inherently, anyways. The problem stems from when strong, independant women -- see: Wonder Woman, Power Girl, Big Bertha -- are depicted in fiction, there are plenty of misogynists who probably cry foul. Mostly due to the fact that they aren't barefoot pregnant in a kitchen somewhere. In and of itself, the act isn't wrong by any stretch of the imagination; however, it's been used so much by the primal side of the male population, that such an act is taboo-ish, especially involving a well-beloved and strong woman such as Wonder Woman, and to a degree, Power Girl. All this is moot, truthfully, as the act itself is harmless and this isn't as misogynistic -as- its' portrayed to be, but there's plenty subsective minority of nerds creaming their pants at a Wonder-Woman wannabe who probably glanced at the local hentai or porn section of the internet and saw the deliciously sexy costume, adopted it and then posed as Wonder Woman to get attention. Because otherwise, it would just be another cute-girl-in-costume-shoves-breasts-into-camera video. Even though that is precisely what it is. Long story short, misogynists need to shut the fuck up and eat some of their own bananas, and people should stop taking this shit as seriously as they do, at least in terms of nerdery. In terms of politics, take it as seriously as possible. Because fuck politics.
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Didn't the whole "make me a sandwich" thing start with Cartman on South Park becoming ubiquitous only thereafter? Correct me if I'm wrong, but are we not taking a line from the lightening rod of deliberately impolitic characters and somehow elevating it to an actual, historical mantra of patriarchy? I swear, there is literally no sector of visible nerd-dom these days that has not been completely commandeered by the self-righteous puritans of political correctness who scramble over each other like fetid rats to be the first to condemn this or that as racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. and then afterwards congratulate themselves for being so heroic and progressive.
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Ooh, based off Philippe's, I'm guessing? Their sandwiches are a bit soggy, but really tasty.
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I did once. It was an accident, but since I was already trying to make Snaperdoodles (basically a cookie version of Severus Snape), it seemed fated.
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I think you mean apes. ;)
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"Go make a sandwich" jokes are seriously lame even by internet standards. What's even worse are people who think that they're being ironically funny by making those jokes. If you're going to be a sexist idiot, at least try to be clever or original about it.
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Oh, I'd agree that you could have any number of problems with the video or series. But the implication here seems to be that showing any woman making a a sandwich at anytime is wrong, which, as I said, is the only part I'm addressing. Obviously we don't live in a world without sexism, but that's what I thought people were generally trying for. All I'm saying that perhaps the people who made the leap to being offended are inadvertently feeding the stereotype. Remember that, as I see it, the video didn't actually do anything to reinforce the women in the kitchen gender role stereotype other than show a woman in the kitchen, but the article still reads "seeing Wonder Woman make a sandwich in a kitchen is hard to process in its horrible, horrible misogynist ramifications." The rest of the video may not be completely innocent, but that's the part I specifically have a problem with. That reads to me that just being shown in the kitchen is enough to assume misogynist ramifications. If the video actually was implying anything to the effect of women belong in the kitchen, then definitely be offended, I would too. But a woman in the kitchen doesn't always have to be about whether or not she should be there. If we continue to associate an action with an idea, even if it's one we disagree with, we'll never be able to move past it.
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Although that WOULD be a pretty neat trick if you could make it like one! No giving birth to twins does not count!
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Wonder Women simply doesn't give a shit. She's just that awesome.
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"It's because 'get in the kitchen!' and 'make me a sammich' is an olde used misogynist thing back in the back olden country, where men didn't cook and women did; possibly around the time when independency started showing up." What is exactly wrong with women cooking????? What next? We can't portray womne holding a baby? WOmen being inside a house? From now on the only images of women allowed are of them sitting in a C.E.O.'s desk or holding a punnel in a lab? What is this? A planet where monkeys evolved from men?
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Women are still not property anywhere. Quite getting your views of the world and other cultures from N.O.W..
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Wow. That was horrible! I think I made it through about 30 seconds before her accent drove me off. She makes Maria Conchita Alonzo sound eloquent. It's like Salma Hayek had her tongue amputated. If I want to watch a chick with a big rack make food, I'll watch Giada. At least her food is worth eating... and she has a lot more cleavage!
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I never said that it was, only that that's why this video might annoy people. As you said, in a world without sexism, there wouldn't be that association. But you know what? We <i>don't</i> live in a world without sexism. It's worth mentioning that this isn't "just making a sandwich"---the entire series of videos is based around a woman in a low-cut top making recipes so simple that they shouldn't require instruction. The only purpose is the lingering shots of her breasts as she makes the food. The sandwich may be for her, but she's making it for the purposes of the viewer. That said, I agree that this isn't worth getting offended over. It's some person's youtube video, ffs. I just disagree with your idea that finding unfortunate implications is itself inherently sexist, as though freedom of speech applies to the maker of the video but not to anyone who finds it offensive. It's really not; as I said, I've heard the "sandwich" thing enough times to make my skin crawl. It's not unreasonable, or misogynist, to think of that in the context of a sexy sandwich-making video. She's pandering to her audience (really badly, but she is). It's a bit disingenuous to imply that this video is completely innocent, and any sexism is in Rob's mind.
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seems like everyone got something different from this video- I had horrible flashbacks to an ex who would try to cook in that dainty manner so as to not muss her nails and/or make her fingers smell like whatever she was making (cause hand soap was such a strange concept?) - it took her like 30 mins to make a sandwich and it drove me insane. And no I never told her to get in the kitchen, she would insist despite being an awful cook. The girl was one of those insecure gotta take care of my man and look good for him at all times type (oh no if he sees me without makeup he'll bail! ) that sound so good on paper but are some of the most obnoxious people to ever co-habitat with. So I left her and swore of high maintenance girls for good - rant over... thanks for your time internets
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Well what if the woman earns her own money in the gold mining industry?
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Everything's coming up Milhouse!
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If you can't stand the heat, Rob... ...Stay out of the kitchen. Now, if you'll excuse me, there's a sandwich that needs my attention...
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My mom says I'm cool...
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No, it's more like... "Hey, let's show a mexican getting into his car after he locked himself out" or something. Or... "Hey, lets watch the NBA"... Just because people make a choice that fits with preconceived stereotypes doesn't mean it's offensive. Like a conservative telling everyone how to think and act. They're not feeding a stereotype, they're making a choice that just happens to fit...
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So, obviously, when they show Batman working on the batmobile, Booster Gold sitting around drinking beer, or Superman barbecuing, that's sexist too, right? I mean, those are all stereotypically male things to do, and it's male heroes doing them, so, clearly, OMGSEXIST, right? Admittedly, I haven't watched the video yet, so I'm basically just reacting to comments, but a woman, in a kitchen, making a sandwich is not automatically sexist. If it is, holy crap is my restaurant sexist this week. We're doing a french dip menu inspired by an LA restaurant, and the instructors have decided that only women can be on the line, because the inspiration restaurant only lets women cut the meat for the sandwiches. So, yeah, "Women, you have to be on the line, with a giant knife, carving a hunk of meat to make sammiches." My god, it's full of sexism....
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Just because you have a camera and can make a video ... doesn't mean you should.
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The short answer is yes.
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Least she doesn't have hairy armpits
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I thought the whole point of the "get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich" joke was specifically to mock that patriarchal sexist attitude, to show how stupid and silly it is. I always felt a true misogynist wouldn't deign a mere woman to be capable of making a sandwich the way he likes it. Demanding a woman make a sandwich suggests that the man is incapable or otherwise unable to do it himself, which hardly speaks to the male gender's alleged inherent superiority. Or am I giving people too much credit?
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I too do most of my cooking in a state of rambling drunkenness
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Today I had three women and an asian guy make my sandwiches. I...don't know what that means, socially.
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And when you've got a goddamn minotaur on staff, you listen to his culinary expertise.
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Wonder Woman made 40 sandwiches, except that instead of bread, she used the Lasso of Truth, and instead of filling, there were badguys. That's as many as four tens. And that's awesome
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But that association was never made in the video. I understand that it's a sore point, but does that mean women can't be shown in the kitchen in any context, even if it's just wonder woman making herself a sandwich? The video never gave any indication that it was trying to say 'wonder woman belongs in the kitchen, like all women," but the article and comments made the leap to offense. So we've gone from being offended at saying women should make sandwiches, to being offended at women making sandwiches, even if it's only because of the association with a stereotype, and I'm saying that's just as damaging as supporting the stereotype. This was just a woman making what she called a hero sandwich, so she dressed as a heroine. In a world without sexism that would be the end of it. But because people made that association, they saw wonder woman portrayed as making herself a sandwich, and said, "You shouldn't do that." That's still sexist. They still associated it with the same preconceived notion as misogynists. They took the opposite stance on it, but they still judged the video based on those preconceived notions and assumptions. The only way it can not be sexist is if we treat making a sandwich as just making a sandwich.
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I just watched this and it made me think of the "wonderful woman" up there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QB7ugJnHgs Dear AW'ing women of the internet: put your focus into something and become great at it. THEN post it on the internet. Thanks, The Rest of Us
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I'd agree that it's not a victory for sexism, considering that this video is hardly official in any way. But as for showing her making sandwiches, it's more the association with the all-purpose woman-dismissing rebuttal "Get back to the kitchen and make me a sandwich." Which is still very, very common, and a sore point for a lot of people. I've had <s>people</s> men (naturally) say it to me, because it's so hilarious to tie a fellow human to stereotypical gender roles, ha ha. Yeah... it's not funny or ironic, it's fucking annoying. Seriously, if you don't get what's irritating about it, you've never been subjected to that trite misogynist "joke."
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Just remember: you get to decide what vaginas are for, as long as you don't have one.
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This is gonna be canon, just like the 40 cakes thing, isn't it...
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I couldn't finish the video. I didn't care so much about the "woman in the kitchen" deal as the fact that she can't even make decent comic book talk. Or think mixing Italian dressing and mayo is a good idea. Ick. Someone get me a Wonder Woman outfit; I want to out-sandwich this bitch.
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I'd just like folks to keep their philosophies, ideas and values outta my vagina. I mean, it's not a clown car or anything . . .
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Uh, it's just some chick in WW cosplay sandwiching it up. I could not give less of a shit. Now, if it was an actual panel in an official DC comic, that'd be something to get riled up at, yessireebob. *smokes corncob pipe in disdain*
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Did she say she's dressed like a herring?
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"Wonder Woman should have offered to have had emotionless sex with the sandwich afterwards" - are we still making fun of Red Hood #1?
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Is she drunk? Because that accent cannot be that cliche....
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It's more to do with the imagery; woman makes sandwich, misogynists cream their pants because a strong, independant woman who don't need no man is making a sandwich in the kitchen. It's because 'get in the kitchen!' and 'make me a sammich' is an olde used misogynist thing back in the back olden country, where men didn't cook and women did; possibly around the time when independency started showing up. This is all silly, however, as this isn't Wonderwoman at all. She might as well just be another attention *ahem* using her body to grab both at men and some women's love of breasts, and the lovely voluptiosity of them in a tight, this-doesn't-seem-to-be-working one-piece costume set. Also, if she's making a sandwich, she's forgetting the very basic ingredient you must have in a delectable sandwich: steak sauce.
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So because she knows how to make a meal for herself, she's less liberated?
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So do human-blood cookies. Obviously missing from the latest Girl Scouts cookie choices.
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Shocking, but true.
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OW!! But yeah... shit happens.
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It's the Suckerpunch of Net-Series!
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In all fairness, the human blood cookies were delicious.
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Sorry I couldn't make it more then a moment into the video before I could picture Yanosh Poha from Ghostbusters 2 in that Wonder Woman outfit. That accent is a killer. DAMN YOU BRICKEN!!!!!!! MY VENGEANCE WILL BE SWIFT AND TERRIBLE!! . . . .and mostly made of cheese.
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"I love Green Lantern because he is so hawt, and I know I like Spider-man too, I would like to be full of that spider thing that they pull out, you know the white thing, y'know what is the name?" "It looks wonderful like me WONDERFUL WOMAN!" Oh dear, god...my mind. I agree with Rob that is a fucking terrible sandwich, I mean where is the bacon? Salami? gummy bears? Powdered sugar? Rat poison? Chocolate laxatives? Blood of a virgin maiden? You can't call that a sandwich if it doesn't have the BARE essentials.
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I made it through 26 seconds of that shit.
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Wait, what? People make fun of us?! Goddamit, I thought I was cool. :(
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huh????
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And Justin Bieber turned eighteen.
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I did once, though it wasn't on purpose.
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end times? you don't say. you don't say :D
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Yeah, that is a better implication! Watermelon, too.
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I just realized that for some reason the local subway has 100% men working there every time I've been. That's weird.
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I'd say it's more like giving fried chicken to a black guy. Now, fried chicken is delicious. As are sandwiches. But there's implications.
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Even though I hate the "sammich" joke with a passion, I couldn't help but feel some measure of trollish glee. Like you say, it's like it was designed to infuriate people in hilarious ways.
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You think that's bad, you should see the video with Batman making Vichyssoise...it's not more sexist, but his accent is even MORE unintelligible.Hey...I sense a contest theme! :D
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Jeeez! I have a wonder hair in my sandwich!
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I can't even go into a Subway sandwich shop if it's only staffed by women.
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So am I the only one who noticed that at around 1:26 she says "no no, lemon pledge'
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Judging by what people in politics have been talking about lately - yes. It is completely about whether or not you have a vagina.
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poor excuse to feminine kind. -_- shame on her and shame on all women that let themselves be demeaned ****s
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I thought she was going to do something with heroin after the first ten seconds of talking. I was disappointed.
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What, you thought politics was about philosophy, ideals and values? No sir, it's about whether or not you have a vagina.
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All this over a girl acting goofy in a video. And we wonder why people still make fun of us nerds.
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Good point, although this video was clearly made with the intention of, "Hey, let's make Wonder Woman make a sandwich! Isn't that funny!" It's like the question of whether or not a minstrel show is racist if it's a black guy in blackface doing it. I think there was a whole Spike Lee movie about that, actually - Bamboozled. And wow. The political conservative is agreeing with Spike Lee and arguing against objectification of women. Is the world COMING TO AN END?
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Yeah, but no one is asking Wonder Woman to make a sandwich. She's making it of her own free will, probably for own consumption. Calling that sexist makes about as much sense as calling a woman who earns her own money a gold-digger.
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It's a stupid video of some girl who wants attention, nothing "sexist" or "misogynistic" about it. Nothing wrong with a woman making a sandwich, for herself or others. It's about offensive as a husband pushing the furniture. "...and we should assign no real gender politics to it..." "gender politics"? You've got to be kidding me. Use of that term is completely incompatible with having a Y-chromosome.
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Good point. Women are still property in about half of the world, whereas African slavery, while not completely abolished, has shrunken tremendously.
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Only someone from planet Alpha-Zeta 7 would equate asking your wife to make you a sandwich with a plantation master telling a slave to pick cotton.
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Well, where else would you make a sandwich? Of course it would be in the kitchen!
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In other news, Snooki is pregnant. ABANDON YOUR POSTS! FLEE!!!!!!!!!!!! FLEE FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!! HOPE HAS BETRAYED US AND OUR LIVES ARE AS MEANINGLESS AS SAND!!!!!! THE ANTICHRIST HAS COME!!!!!!
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I, personally, have never made human-blood cookies, for example.
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About time a woman in comics knew her place. It's barefoot and in the kitchen... stuffed in a refrigerator. Actually, DC could learn from this video. It isn't enough they took away Diana's no man origin and made her confront some daddy issues. They should totally have her in the kitchen making Steve a sammwitch. I mean DC already has enough strong female characters. Starfire is sleeping with her male teammates and there's talk of new team members she can sleep with. Just like the other orange creature known as Snooki, she clearly is a modern female role model for the 21st century. Now that's some progressive female empowerment I can get behind. Keep up the good work, DC. Funny. I was just reading Wonder Woman The Conplete History by Les Danirls. One old golden age panel they have is wonder woman being chained to a stove in the kitchen. I am kinfa rekinded of that. Though despite all the bondage imagery and overtones, creator Marsten was unconventional and rather progressive. Aside from living with basically two wives, he said with the inventions of the 20th century, women would throw off the yolk of house work servitude and become the dominant gender. Of course DC tends to ignore such progressive and radical messages Marsten said he was trying to promote and spread through the then new and popular medium of comics.
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Realistically if someone tells to go make a sandwich I'd say, "That's a fantastic idea!" and then eat it myself =) I like sammiches.
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But wiener between boobs....that's funny....right????
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No. Just... no.
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Arhhh, she knows how to make a sandwich... how adorable. Up next: Cooking with DCnU Starfire- How to pleasure your man and cook a roast at the same time!
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And to give you a serious answer, technically yes. "WOMAN, MAKE ME A SANDWICH!" was turned into a sexist anthem for so long that the act of asking a woman to make a sandwich carries specific connotations with it - much like telling a black person to go pick cotton, or a mexican to go work at Home Depot, or a republican to go make human-blood cookies.
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So I'm just going to throw this out there, but it looks like she just makes a sandwich and then eats it herself. I only skimmed through the video, since I'm not going to spend four minutes watching anyone make a sandwich, dressed like wonder woman or not, but does she actually say she's making it for anyone? How is it throwing her entire gender under the bus if wonder woman makes herself a sandwich? I'm sure you could have a problem with various parts of the video, the name 'hot in the kitchen' for one, but I'm only adressing the suggestion that just the image of wonder woman making a sandwich alone is a victory for sexism. It's just as ignorant to say "wonder woman can't possibly be shown making a sandwich because she's a woman and that's sexist" as it would be to say that she should be making sandwiches because she's a woman. Either way you'd be treating her differently based on her gender.
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Sandwiches are sexist. They are an evil food, regardless of who makes them.
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Sounds like she gets her English lessons from TheReplyGirl.
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So a woman making a sandwich is, all by itself, sexist? Wow, I guess that means it's sexist every time my wife makes lunch for herself. Maybe Wonder Woman should have made her pussy-whipped boyfriend make it for her, or better yet, smugly ordered a maid to make it for her, since those are apparently the only acceptable choices.
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I couldn't get through the vid. It was so cheesy I couldn't stand it. OH, I'm sorry: It had too much "cheyss".
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I think the mentally retarded should be more upset at this than women.
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At least she knows enough about Wonder Woman to make me think she grew up watching Super Friends or at least went on Wikipedia before making this video.
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Missed opportunity for use of Wonder Bread. TC
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what the hell is mayo-neeesse. and srsly, bologna and american cheese? sorry, a-MUR-i-CAN CHEESSE
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Don't care enough to check, but I'm guessing this is another one of those things where a chick does a series of stupid crap on youtube but gets lots of hits because they're hot or at least have boobs. based on the short intro, I think the wonder woman thing is not the usual outfit. her awful "accent" destroys any boner her hotness could create.
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I mean, my point is that this seems almost like a perfectly designed Jezebel troll-bullet. Like, perfect.
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If we are being sexist here I thought the real question would be as to whether or not she had shoes on in that kitchen?
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Ahem: http://viewfromthecouchdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/make-your-own-fucking-sandwich.jpg
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There is no way WW would make or eat that sandwich. Ferdinand taught her better than that.
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I'm sorry, but if I want a sandwich, I get off my ass and make it myself. And if my girlfriend/fiancee/wife/whatever happens to be interested in me also wants one, then I'll make her one, too.
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The real question is: has this already ignited an estrogen-storm at Jezebel?
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