A simultaneous nod, smirk and thumbs up for CORRECTLY noting that Marcoss was the greatest love story of the 20th century.
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Correction:
The greatest love story of the 20th century is actually The Terminator.
I will believe that Robotech is better than Macross if Harmony Gold can make something like this.Oh, who am I kidding. They will celebrate Robotech 30th anniversary by re-re-re-re-re-release of "complete" DVD boxset, promoting crappy toys and merchandises, and promising new production that will never ever see the light. Sure is easy to appease nostalgia-blind fans eh, Harmony Gold?
Macross is better than Robotech simply because it has sequels. And decent sequels at that.
Hard to say what's better. I loved the expanded Robotech book series,and Sentinels would have been a fantastic show, but it's hard to argue on would haves and could haves. Macross Plus was great, but DYRL, Marcoss 7, and Zero were nothing to crow about.
On the Minmay being more likeable front, when I saw Macross as opposed to Robotech, I was amazed at how much more relate-able and likeable Minmay was in Macross.
In Robotech, I kept hoping she'd get stepped on by a Zentraedi.
Have to agree, DYRL deserves its due, and Macross Zero had some incredible dogfights before devolving into silliness about buried mecha and singing to rocks. I love Robotech, but Macross Zero is what Shadow Chronicles should have been.
The novels are awesome and a fitting end to the saga, shame Harmony Gold declared them non-canon deacdes ago. Woopsy! With 7 you either love it or hate it, and Zero had it's moments, but Do You Remember Love? is nothing to crow about?!
Sure the second act spends WAY to much time doing nothing on post-apocalyptic earth, but what about that godly animation? What about Minmay being a likeable character? What about Focker getting a somewhat cool death? What about the superb mecha designs? AND WHAT ABOUT "THAT" FINAL BATTLE SCENE?!!! One of the greatest moments in animation history right there.
Exactly. Fans may defend Robotech with their nostalgia-biased arguments, but it's a fact that Macross is healthier, money-making brand despite Harmony Gold's attempt to cockblock Macross outside Japan. Robotech on the other hand, is struggling to live. Wait, scratch that, forced to live is more correct term.
"Model"?! Bullshit, Rob! That thing is most definitely 100% operational, just stripped of its more functional parts as to not alarm the public! By the time the inevitable 2012 Alien Apocalypse rolls around, hundreds of these things would clog up the sky, along with that full-scale Gundam "model" they had in Odaiba!
I would like to applaud the people who made the full sized macross valkrie... This is beyond impressive and I expect every Robotech fan in japan, and the world, would LOVE to have their picture taken, in full uniform, in the cockpit. And I would like to know what will become of it after the anniversary. As for the BJ-flavoring spray.... EEEEEEEAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH! BARFBARFBARFHURLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"every Robotech fan in japan"There are none.Except few nerdy American soldiers who are stationed there, maybe.
00 Raiser: (unable to stop himself from singing "My Boyfriend Is A Pilot") "Kyuun, Kyuun, Kyuun, Kyuun...."
So Japan has a Gundam and the original Valkyrie......IDEON MODEL PLZ?!
Can't believe Matt's the first to point out this is a later-model VF-25. Now a 1:1 scale VF-1S on the other hand...
It is? (looks at photo, looks at VF-25 Messiah from MAHQ profile page) oh, so it is, man I need to get back into Macross again.
I think I'll join you! Those first 10 or so episodes really hold up amazingly well, far better than most shows of the same period.
Movie cut of Plus is pretty much superfluous. Adds a few nice details and clarifications, but not much. The best parts are two new Sharon Apple songs and Guld getting an AWESOME death scene against the Ghost X9. HE GOES SO FAST HIS EYEBALLS IMPLODE.
Sadly the only DVD release was a cut and paste VHS rip. Your only option for a decent version of the movie cut is piracy. I think it's up in Youtube in high quality.
Anybody know a website where I can watch episodes of 7? The only results I've found are megaupload style scam sites where they let you watch 10 minutes and bar you for the rest of the day until you sign up.
Kawamori has gone on record as saying that ALL of Macross is an in-universe historical docu-drama. That's so post-modern it makes me head ache. Canon in Macross is what you make of it, but the TV series do take precedence over the films.
M7 does get better after a while... But hell does it take till it get's there. It doesn't help that Basara is a total dick and the Jenius kid isn't even remotely as cool as her parents.Zero is awesome, Plus too (haven't seen the Movie cut).
Macross 7 gets quite a bit better the farther you get in, but getting through the first 12 or so.... I don't blame anyone for not watching the whole thing.Macross Zero is excellent, though your milage may vary concerning the end.I really quite like the Macross Frontier series.The first Frontier movie is pretty good too, it's like an alternate reality version of the series. Haven't seen the second.Skipped Macross II (non-canon).Macross Plus (ova) might be the best thing to ever come from the Macross property. The movie edit is alright too, but watch the OVA's first. Subbed has better (versions of) songs.
The Movies (Do You Remember Love, The False Diva, The Wings of Goodbye) versions are not cannon, in-universe they are treated as DocuDrama feature films.
The two movies of Frontier are a good place to start. Myself, I'm stuck trying to get through Macross 7...
I think what upsets me most about the dirty STJT, and others like it, is that you can buy it.There are so many great things that are never released, or only 40 are.How come I cant get wearable iron man helmet with a simple HUD, but i can get potato cheese dick spray!?
Super terrifying Japanese Thing changed into Super TERRIFIC Japanese Thing.Who do we have to thank for this? Either being nice for a change to Rob in the Contest (although he didn't deserve it, hate the shirt) or something magical happened between him and Abraxxas? My Money is on the later. We'll never know ;)
Japan has a 1:1 scale Gundam and now a Valkyrie, and the USA has zero 1:1 scale star ships. Japan- 2, USA- 0.
Those sneaky rice-gobblers are rearming for a second Pearl Harbor right under our noses!
Japanese: "We're raising our Pacifc Fleet from World War II!"
Americans: "What?!"
Japanese: "Don't worry, it's for one of those silly cartoons that we all love so much!"
Americans: "Oh, um, okay..."
Harmony Gold will just steal the Valkyrie via dubious lawsuit and say its from "robotech." Problem solved.
We tried to make a 1:1 AT-AT, but Lucas said no. http://atatforamerica.tumblr.c...
That makes sense, Oklahoma City would have been our second capital after Washington, DC fell to the Japanese Robotech "Defense" Force. The nation's prairie capital could have used an AT-AT.
How do you think I feel about it? I live in Oklahoma City! It was going to be in My TOWN!!!
His first mistake was asking Lucas. His second mistake was not replacing it with a giant Jar Jar
I want the Valkyrie Model. I was just, coincidentally moving my Robotech Models and Transformer Skyfire toy a minute before I saw this post. I think this is Gods way of saying I should own this.
Hmm, that would actually be a bit more awesome if it were Skyfire being mistaken for a Valkyrie. Though that would probably make him 'even" more emo.
Here's hoping that it's a little like the Last Starfighter, where assembling the model is just a test before the RDF head hunts you, the Last Veritech Mechanic.
Now THAT should be a movie! Fanatic fan gets chosen, only to become a mechanic along with hundreds more and doesn't get to share glory.


