Happy National Workaholics Day!
If you see me comment below, you'll know I'm observing it.
I'm finally back home!http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meoywh9d5P1rs18yd.gif
Is there such thing as a Gilmore Girls or a Supernatural convention? I have a sudden desire to dress up as both Sam and Dean Simultaneously. Edit : I may need sleep.
Remember how that zombie list said that people have gone crazy with putting zombies on everything. Yeah here's some zombie vodka.
I saw a person at anime expo with a topless robot shirt from the old dats.
Random person, if you're reading this, I was the one with the red Hawaiian shirt and the cane.
Well, this week I managed to 100% Super Mario 64 DS at last, it was sadly underwhelming. But I also cleared a lot more of Paper Mario: Sticker Star, and I am loving it, although I really wanna play the Thousand Year Door, especially after watching a few LP's of it on Youtube.
just wouldn't be tradition if I didn't post some kind of video.
Rupert Grint for the next Doctor..........we need a Ginger Doctor!!!!
Just for kicks.
My issue with "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back" is entirely different from Lippincott's (who is just a sci-fi purist) so I'm posting it separately for discussion here. To be fair it's a much better made film and the actors are all better in this than in the first one - the sound, music, effects and dialog are all better, but it has some issues.
For me it comes down to Empire basically being set in a totally different and irreconcilable universe from the first film, and you can just look at the characters for examples. Luke transforms from an optimistic naive farm boy to a cynical war weary veteran rolling his eyes at his tail gunner's use of the same line he gave in the last film. Princess Leia transforms from diplomat and spy to general, apparently just to give her something to do. Han Solo transforms from cynical mercenary loner to enthusiastic leader concerned about abandoning "his men" to deal with a personal life or death problem. And then there's Vader... even on the surface Vader transforms from the thug reveling in tormenting others from his unquestionable position as a right hand/strong man into a political schemer plotting to overthrow the emperor so he can run things with his own strong ideas about how to do things that were never even hinted at previously.
Most inexcusably Vader is suddenly Luke's father and it's somehow a secret in spite of the fact that Tarkin and Vader discuss his past openly around underlings in the first film. Tarkin publicly scoffs at Vader's belief that his old master is still alive, almost laughing the name "Obi Wan Kenobi" out loud, so it wasn't something anyone kept secret and why would they? They have every reason for that to be publicly known and no reason to keep it a secret. So if Tarkin and everyone that works for he and Vader know who Vader is and
where he came from, the rebels with their already well established (in terms of film continuity) spy
network able to steal top secret plans certainly should know who the biggest bad guy in the galaxy is and where he came from, but ESB declares that Vader's past is suddenly a secret. Something that has been established as common knowledge is reestablished as a secret just so that it can be completely altered as a "plot twist".
It gets worse when you get to the prequels and Skywalker is presented as a famous war hero whose face is all over what passes for the news for saving the leader of the galaxy and commonly advising him for at least a decade, and who people see in public leading the 501st (which he has been leading in battle for years) into the Jedi Temple to burn it down, and who is now being addressed by his troops as "Lord Vader" before the helmet ever goes on. They don't even bother to also reveal that Skywalker is a made up name used to conceal Luke's identity and he's really Luke Vader, which would have made the shock reveal make a modicum of sense... and actually would have done wonders to drive the drama and explain why Luke is never made a general unlike everyone body else in the films - I swear they probably made C3PO a general at some point, they certainly make Jar Jar one in the prequels.
It's not a plot twist or a secret revealed - it's a cheap shock that wasn't thought out at all. If Mark Hamill hadn't done such a wonderful job selling that "big reveal" scene then it would be one of the most absurd moments in film.
Is it a good film? Yes. Is it a better film than Star Wars? Yes, and on many many levels. It is a total disregard for established continuity that enraged my young nerdy self at the time. Years later when fans were outraged over Han shooting first I just rolled my eyes.
It's a good teaching moment, all moments in entertainment like this are. It teaches that entertainment is best not taken too seriously because the people making it don't 90% of the time and if you do then you have set yourself up for disappointment.
Zombie Rob started a discussion that is relevant
The only thing missing from Skyrim for consoles is mods. Mods are fun.
Last weekend I posted about a game called Embric of Wulfhammer's Castle. Out of curiosity, I wanted to know if anyone tried it out and hearing what they thought.
well, it was an interesting experiment, but I now pronounce my community site dead.
during the first two days 17 people signed up, by the end of the first week only 4 were still posting, now it has been two days since anyone has posted; C'est la vie.
@Timely-Tardis-Lego Where did you go, and was it fun?
@louieatrest warning - too much sleep makes you sane
@Cinna Thousand Year Door is the best entry in the series by a huge margin. Go out of your way to obtain it.
@Gallen_Dugall There are gaps in the amount of time between all of the pictures in the first three movies, so the characters are going to be in different places in their lives. So the character evolution never really bugged me.
There were other questions that always bugged me because of that, the foremost of which was: why didn't Solo go immediately to Jabba following the medal ceremony with part of his reward and pay off the Hutt?
(Yeah, I know the EU answers this question, but the EU shouldn't be required reading for the movies.)
I agree on most of that, the one point that could be contested is that it is never established that Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader being one and the same is not established as common knowledge.
People know that Obi-Wan trained Vader, but not that Vader was Skywalker, which is plausible since Obi-Wan was not supposed to be training him in the first place. I always assumed that Anakin's actions in the Clone wars (I reject all that shit from the prequels) were prior to Obi-Wan training him, rolling with that concept in mind Anakin was probably a well known war hero so they created the "Vader" persona to train in secret ... people knew that Obi was training Vader, but not that Vader was Anakin, and when he betrayed the Jedi it probably was passed around that Vader had killed Anakin in the process (as Obi told Luke in the first movie).
Earlier in the movie the Emperor even pointedly states "the Son of Skywalker" instead of "Luke Skywalker" or "Obi-Wan's new apprentice" as he clearly wants to talk about the connection between Anakin and Luke but can't just out and say "Your Son" over a transition that people could be listening in on.
..... yes, I am fully aware that Curious George did not put all that much thought into it and was just trying to weakly foreshadow the secret ending, but all this just goes to show how much the creation of fans is what makes Star Wars what it is.
@FabioRezende I missed being able to craft my own spells. I really enjoyed being able to pair up elemental damage.
@FabioRezende the only things missing from Elder Scrolls games are the things they took out because it wouldn't work on consoles. Mods add those things back.
Plus they get rid of auto-aim.
I tried moding Skyrim into playability and lost interest after having to hunt for the hundredth mod to fix issues. And why do console systems not support hair that doesn't look like it came out of a play-dough extruder?
I've seen better hair in 8 bit games - Skyrim has the worst hair ever.
@FabioRezende The only thing missing from Elder Scrolls in general is an enjoyable game, sans mods.
@FakeAssName Forums seem to need a strong secondary function to survive nowadays. Trading, selling, buying, something like that.
Sorry, been busy at doing things. I forget to log in
@FakeAssName I feel for you..
We set up an online forum for our cell phone tech department where I work. The idea was to let them connect and communicate about common problems they were seeing and suggest solutions. We have tech people in repair centers in about 11 states, you we thought this would take off.
Sure enough, everybody signed up for it, but almost instantly the site was deserted. We even did the same thing a couple of years later with the same result.
@Cinna @Timely-Tardis-Lego Oh, and it was Called Anime Expo, I'll post about it in next week's open thread since I'm going to do an article about it soon
@Cinna @Timely-Tardis-Lego TTL has been at the anime convention - there are some pics at the start of this thread
@Gallen_Dugall Too much sleep just makes me tired. It's a vicious cycle.
@teopcigart @Cinna Considering how much I'm enjoying Sticker Star, this makes me want the game more. I already have a Wii, so when I hook that up in the new house/get a gamecube controller, I so wanna get one
@ComradeDread1 @Gallen_Dugall EU also spends most of its time cleaning up the mess of the films
@FakeAssName @Gallen_Dugall Plus "Skywalker" could be a common name. Just like there's a Captain Antilles, Wedge Antilles and Bail Antilles, none of whom seem to be related.
@ComradeDread1 @FabioRezende Morrowwind allowed crafting of the most wonderful spells - the mile high jump spell was a personal favorite as was "Power Word Tactical Nuke"
@Gallen_Dugall I think I put more time looking up and installing mods for Oblivion than I ultimately spent playing it.
I had intended the e-pnp & online games sections to give that pull; between some extended range role playing & a hang out for gamer buddies I figured that I would get enough return traffic for the site to be worth it.
Neither section got any real attention.
No worries, the writing was on the wall with all the inflammatory political shit that got posted.
I should have been heavier with moderation and more active myself, I'll probably get back to it eventually but I have honestly got too much RL shit in the air to be babysitting a community site at the same time.
@James.k.Polk @FakeAssName I remember when forums used to be the thing. They're really not any more - I think maybe social media supplanted that function.
Hell, blogs aren't what they used to be, and I miss a lot of them - I think that's a function of the fact that people didn't make a living doing them. The ones that are still strong - like this one - are parts of larger companies.
@Cinna @Gallen_Dugall @Timely-Tardis-Lego I recommend it, really fun. Though you need to bring a bit of money just in case, since it's really easy to spend a 3rd of it without realizing,
@Gallen_Dugall @Cinna @Timely-Tardis-Lego Oh cool. Hope it was fun. I need to try conventions more in future.
@troi Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru age about the same amount. There has been offhanded reference to Tatooine's two suns aging your skin faster.
Do they explain why Obi Wan ages twice as much as everybody else in between episodes 3&4?
@LYT@Gallen_Dugall There are about eight levels of SW "canon" but you brought up Darth Plagueis and the novel was written out of GL's notes with actual input from Lucas (which is the only reason I read it) so it's as close to an explanation as the creator of the mythos had in mind - which is very little. GL simply was telling a story for visual effect, continuity isn't something he worried about.
@Gallen_Dugall @LYT you're taking EU as canon, though. It isn't. Maybe Shadows of the Empire and Force Unleashed are, but that's about it.
@LYT @Gallen_Dugall Even if the entire galaxy was populated by people with the last name Skywalker - decent background checks (the sort of thing they'd have to do to keep from being infiltrated by Imperial Agents) would turn up who Luke was and certainly would have tracked who Vader was.
Having actually read Darth Plagueis (which is great up until it tries to explain the nonsense from the films) I'll just say no, that isn't what happened. In fact that book pretty much spells out that the force has a motivation of its own for doing things and it created Anakin for a purpose, which ties in to the two Mortis Trilogies (the second one we'll never get because the show was canceled) and how everything important in the Lucas-verse takes place off camera in a retcon because the source matterial is poorly thought out.
All of which puts more thought into this than the writers behind ESB ever did. They made Vader his father because it sounded good on paper. They didn't give a rats ass about continuity.
@LYT "Skywalker" could be a common name. "Darth" could have been a common name too, back when it was apparently Vader's first name and not a Sith title.
@Gallen_Dugall Skywalker shouldn't be a particularly special name - based on the prequels, it originates with a fairly boring slave woman who just happened to be an unwitting test subject for Darth Plagueis.
@LYT@FakeAssName@Gallen_Dugall if it's a common name it should be mentioned. They go out of their way to establish multiple Antilles families and yet even in the EU there are no other Skywalkers, none. But the reality is that they wrote a "twist"
into the film and didn't feel the need for any justification. Thus
establishing that the Jedi are a bunch of manipulative assholes and
leaving it for other films to sort out the mess, and I contend that
cleaning up Empire's crap load of loose ends is what drags down RotJ.
Between that and the Lucas method of having all important character development take place off camera, and canceling the Clone Wars, I'm just really over it. I love the first film and I respect the others, but that's it.
@FakeAssName @FabioRezende @Gallen_Dugall @Kaobel SWTOR? Because that was a fun game, too grindy of course, but nice story. Just don't play as Jedi or Sith because the force is boring. Oh and the romances all suck so feel free to skip them.
@FabioRezende @Gallen_Dugall @Kaobel
Don't hold your breath, ESO is just a clone of TOR.
funny how things turn out when you start developing a competing product based on the hype.
@Kaobel @Gallen_Dugall I never played the mini-games - console command "add.item 000000f 500000" takes care of haggling and there is never anything worth picking a lock for inside of a locked box in any Elder Scrolls game... EVER. They put anything worth picking up out in the open.
@Gallen_Dugall @Kaobel I felt completely detached in Oblivion. All the immersion breaking minigames really did nothing for me. Seriously, how many times did I have to hear "You don't say?" and "Ha ha ha, that's funny!" before I could get a good price on my loot? And then there is the constant annoyance of having to avoid sleep like the plague and avoid running unless you want to make an agile character. I can't telly you often I got +5 for my agility just from running between towns in early game before you have a mount.
@FabioRezende @Gallen_Dugall @Kaobel I am so over Elder Scrolls. Skyrim was so disappointing I just don't care anymore. I know I can mod that game into playability but it's too much work for too little reward.
I'll pay attention again when the online game goes F2P.
@Gallen_Dugall @Kaobel Skyrim is the first Elder Scrolls I ever played. Waiting for the next-gen Online one
@Kaobel @Gallen_Dugall I played the crap out of Oblivion, and even more so Morrowwind - Skyrim is just boring and ugly.
Someone pointed out that they do nothing in Skyrim to make you feel involved in your character and I certainly felt that way. I'm back to playing STO for free (the new graphics are wonderful) and I have infinitely far more connection to the android character I made up than any of the umpteen characters I started for Skyrim.
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