I know, late getting this up. Bad Editor. Spank me later.
Uh, in English please!
Remembered to watch the episode.
I see it still should be called "Skye and Her Agents of SHIELD".
For another episode, Skye is the only character allowed to act outside her "official" role. She is the only character who has a life and personality outside her job description. She also gets the multi-episode story arcs, multiple now. (Coulson has "Tahiti" but that is being backburnered. May's reason for quitting has also either been backburnered or dropped. In comparison, Skye has had "Is she a spy" and now "Who is she and why is SHIELD hiding it", with of course the implications that she could be someone major.) With Coulson having to sit back as the boss, Skye is written as the main character of the show.
I also kind of want to see someone make a "Ward is a terrible agent" supercut of scenes. Even if the guy this time knew to be on the lookout for SHIELD agents.
He goes with "Scorch?" That sounds like one of those C-list villains Scourge blew away in the '80's.
"JUSTICE IS SERVED!"
I'm enjoying this show except hacker girl, who I find completely uncompelling, even in her underwear. I can't remember her name, and her added layers of depth are boring. I'm at the point where I've decided to fast forward through her bits.
It's not the actress either, when they give her something to do she briefly shines, but the mopey predictable stupid decision making character is completely boring.
Absolutely the best episode yet. We had every character actually display some personality: May's nearly-playful banter with Coulson before the mission and during the fight with Scorch actually made her seem like a real entity; Ward likes boardgames. The dialogue was snappy and quick. Even poor, throwaway Scorch came off as believable and sympathetic.
Chloe Bennet in her underwear would have been enough to make it a great episode, but the fact that she was able to relate the inner turmoil Sky obviously felt between her new and old selves made it even better.
But the real star of the show was: SUPERPOWERS in a Marvel show! Yes, we've seen a few flashes before, but the pyrotechnics on display are a huge part of what make comics so visually compelling, and they looked great on TV. All I can say is: more.
My only negative feedback is that Scorch should have been Japanese, named Shiro Yashida, and lived long enough to call himself Sunfire... but then, Sunfire was an X-Man at one point, so that's just not going to happen. But if Disney can pay $4billion for Star Wars, why the hell can't they work out a deal to get the X franchise back, at least in part?
Am I The only one who got excited about the A.I.M looking guys who abducted "scorch"
So was rewatching Iron Man 3 last night, it so happens... and it's repeatedly mentioned that AIM is a "privately funded think tank."
Makes one wonder if it's necessarily the US military contributing all that funding; just saying.
Also, re: the fire dude's superpowers... if Marvel wants, couldn't they just use Inhumans rather than mutants? Pretty sure they still have them free and clear, and it could be that the guy was just exposed to Terragen Mists at some point somehow.
(Plus isn't there talk of Marvel wanting to do an Inhumans film?)
I didn't really understand the fire guy's motivation. All it seemed he wanted was to show off his powers. To not be stopped. Before he went insane, I mean. Seemed like a petulant teen who's parents are holding him back by not letting him make his palm get fiery.
I thought it was good, there is some positive movement on the show. I liked that Coulson wasn't completely trusting of Skye and had May follow her. I liked the team's reaction to her betrayal and I hope they keep the fallout from that over the next few weeks, and I especially liked that Coulson wasn't entirely forgiving of her even after she came clean to him about her motivations in joining SHIELD and gave her the 'house arrest' bracelet.
so, like the good old monkey's paw, are we regretting briging coulson back to life???
also, how long before fox cancels it?
@James.k.Polk should we take a moment to wonder why there was no new Sleepy Hollow on this week?
This episode was competently directed, but without any love. Every scene was dark and looked the same. They went all the way to Hong Kong, and you could not really feel that they went anywhere. Every scene was shot practically, but not in a way that we can relate to the characters. Hell, Skye was in her underware, and she might as well have been in a burka for all the sex appeal that scene had! Everyone's lines seemed rushed and forced. The could have been some great character moments, without even changing the script, but instead they went with a really boring action sequences. My opinion is to go with one good action scene, instead of several boring ones. This episode was a real disappointment, because no one making the show seems to love these characters, and the show, while looking professionally made, lacked soul.
"I mean, you are not who you used to be"
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was there an after-credits cameo scene of any sort?
Skye in bra and panties....That is all.
@Baines This sounds spot-on. It's exactly that. Not enough focus on the AGENTS of Shield.
@swerj321 Scorch is a C-List villain. In 2 issues and is named Tommy Nga in the comics.
@Gallen_Dugall Skye, aka Coulson Jr? Like I said in last week's talkback, it feels like she is the writers' favorite character (as they may be limited in what they can do with Coulson without undermining the whole point of the team existing). She's the only character who has been allowed to act outside her designated role, seemingly because her "real" role is to be a Coulson-in-training character.
I've yet to watch the new episode (as I generally catch it online the day after anyway), so maybe things have changed with it, but it would have to change pretty drastically to do so.
You must not be watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., because the show I watched was the same crappy Mary Sue garbage with Skye in the center of everything, and everyone acting as dumb as they possibly can.
This show is a less-sexy, less-clever, less-compelling American version of Torchwood. Guy back from the dead leads team of quirky nerds and super-secret agents to deal with crazy shiat after recruiting normal girl with a story to the team. BLEH.
@pauldmiller or one of the dozens of other b lister psychokinetics instead of a c-lister like Scorch.
@GeneralTekno I never even realized that up until now all the MU movies and SHIELD involve people with abilities that were either from another solar system or manufactured...wow, i need to pay attention more.
@OneMinuteGalactica He felt controlled by SHIELD and was a street magician scrapping by on tips. He wanted to show people what he could do. He wanted the spotlight. And then he went a bit bonkers from the torture the Extremis folks put him through and from losing his fire immunity and decided he was going to go out in the puntastic 'blaze of glory', rather than go back to obscurity under the thumb of SHIELD.
Can't cancel it before Summer Glau appears on the show. Only then is the writing on the wall.
@DrAbraxas ABC recently ordered a full season. Granted I think ABC is owned by Disneyor vice versa.
It's not on Fox. This is being shown on ABC
@DrAbraxas Coulson's the most interesting of the characters, so no. There are some other team members I wouldn't mind seeing Loki dispatch in his place.
The network that hosts the baseball playoffs has hell played with their schedule for all October.
@louieatrest agreed. And re: Skye, I thought a couple eps ago that she was hot; but once disrobed, I quickly retracted my thought.. :( Finally, what the hell is the point of May's character. Both the actress and the character bore me to friggin' tears. Her in action scenes is like Kevin Smith in action scenes.
@louieatrest And this is what I was worried would happen with a show like this. You can only take the show in one or two true directions and i think they are still trying to find that right wheelhouse. And now they have a full season renewal, things about mid season are going to feel rushed and disjointed because they added the additional episodes. They should keep this show to 13 episodes and that is it.
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@James.k.Polk Not that I recognized. The Extremis recruitment lady (don't recall her character's name) visited some guy in prison who knew about Extremis, it's exploding problem, and seemed to be a higher up. I'm guessing he's probably related to AIM somehow, but I don't think they named him.
@TheWalkingDon I will watch this episode now...it's sitting in my DVR and i was too tired to watch it last night.
And I missed that?
Tommy Ngh, actually.
He was in 3 issues of Night Thrasher, and 3 issues of SOLO in the early 90s.
And he sucks. He's more like a forgotten F-list villain.
@Baines Also her "arc" has moved too swiftly and predictably. Maybe if they had given the audience a season to get to know her and then have her betray the team, with some actual consequences, then it would have some weight. As the character is it's all paint by numbers.
@bydawine I wonder if they are intentionally staying away from existing Marvel characters, either for licensing reasons or because some bigger project may decide to use the named characters.
Disney/Marvel want an integrated TV and movie universe at the moment. If they kill off Sunfire in a throwaway TV episode, what does that mean when some movie writer wants to put Sunfire in a new film?
@ComradeDread1 @OneMinuteGalactica Yeah, it was too lame of a motivation -- to be a star! Not really compelling.
Hey! Maybe if we're lucky, we'll see more Extremis powered people go crazy and blow up, because we didn't get enough of that this season or in Iron Man 3.
Wait... There is another.
Ted McGinley... Paging Ted McGinley.
@nojoy2k @DrAbraxas well then your move SUMMER GLAU
I still wouldn't put it past them.
Best episode ever just for that
@louieatrest @Gallen_Dugall however in the end
@OneMinuteGalactica It was a bit more than that. It was something that grew in him as he saw alternatives.
It looked like he started out okay with SHIELD's restrictions. He just kept living his pre-power life. But his pre-power life probably wasn't amazing. I think we are supposed to see his apartment and think it isn't a great place. We see his street magic act, where some of the audience is dismissing his tricks and no one is giving him money.
He's a big fan of Houdini, and doesn't like his act being mocked. He doesn't like that he's not getting money. So he breaks SHIELD's restrictions a couple of times, briefly showing the crowd his fire ability. Probably a heat of the moment thing, as we see him respond to the heckler, but tries to go back to being cautious afterwards.
But the fire trick gets a hot babe into his room, who keeps pressing him to do it again. He is probably weighing SHIELD's restrictions versus getting laid, and her ego stroking helps sway him. He shows her his powers and gets abducted.
She talks him into being a hero. Real super heroes are something relatively new in the TV series universe. And he already believed his powers were given to him for a reason, so she can work the idea that being a super hero is that reason. He agrees to go along with it. SHIELD wanted to hide his ability, while this apparently equally well funded group wants to help him use his abilities for good. And he can be famous. And maybe finally get to have sex with the hot babe.
From there, the formula he's injected with takes over. It both makes him feel powerful and amps his powers significantly, and presumably messes with his mind a bit as well. He's on the fast track to Centipede/Extremis-of-the-week villainy at that point.
@hypersapien73 @James.k.Polk I think no matter what it will bring viewers to the network so I don't expect them to cancel it anytime soon, especially since Marvel is apart of the ABC/Disney universe now. It would be like FOX doing an X Men show and cancelling it prematurely.
@Kozmik_Pariah If they're going to introduce us to Rocket Raccoon in the movies, I don't see why not.
@James.k.Polk ABC's website. That's where I watch it, because I never remember it the night that it airs.
@James.k.Polk Hulu has it, also couchtuner (beware bad links there)
@James.k.Polk it's also here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/548205
Thanks. I'm going to look for it tonight.
@James.k.Polk @10glfan59 ABC's website has the full episodes, a day or two after they aired on t.v. Any post credit scenes are shown before the credits roll. They do have typical ads, but at least with firefox(with adblock+) I don't see them.
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Does ABC not let you watch full episodes? If it makes you fill better Polk I had to drive 2 hours for a all day meeting about HR.
@10glfan59 If anyone knows a resource to watch it online, it would be nice if they let me know. I'm wondering if ABC's website or HULU or something is going to have it.
Hate to read that. It was fun to see the team deal with a real super powered threat.
@10glfan59 Missed it because I had to work. The jerk new kid quit after about 8 days and I had to pick up his hours.
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