• It's great! Ominous and TARDIS-y. It might only have been improved it they'd had the DW TARDIS logo spinning, like the TARDIS coming in to land.

• @telezombie Then why post anything, dumb ass?!

• The new logo sucks, just like this new series. I can't count the times it's gone off jumped the shark. The more control the BBC gave Davies over the new series, the worse it got. And this is from a longtime fan who really, really tried to stay open-minded. @satur8- McGann didn't do his first audio until 2001. He didn't "reign" except for in fanfic (well, and a few non-canonical appearances until the BBC pulled the novelizations from Virgin and started the "Lost Adventures").

• kid_icarus said::::::::One should no try to say DALEKS when drunk,and in mixed company. :)

• never watched an episode, doesn't matter to me.

• Yes, the 4th-7th Doctors have made audio adventures. However, Mcgann, the 8th Doctor, continued to make the audio adventures while he was still the current Doctor. If you follow all continuity, he was the longest reigning Doctor. Tom Baker - 1974-1981 Paul McGann - 1996-2005 (lowers head in geek shame) Despite the plot of the TV movie, I think McGann was an excellent Doctor in his one broadcast appearance. It's a shame he did not get a bigger chance on screen.

• "And McGann has redeemed himself by being the Doctor pretty much longer than anyone and he's still got enough fans that they've never stopped his audio adventures." What, wha? Davison, Baker and McCoy all do the Big Finish stuff as well, so they're all longer-tenured. Unless you're somehow counting the ten or so years after the movie as the period that he was The Doctor, in which case... no.

• Came to read nerdrage, left disappointed. WTF people. Not even The Man With Two Brains is getting worked up over this ever so slight franchise tweak. Somebody inform the management.

• I think it's simply pants.

• Hey, McGann is my generatios Doctor so don't go getting all pissy at him. I'd Take him over Tennant any day of the week. The Tv Movie might have been silly but it gave us the perfect Tardis and decent effects for the first time in the Doctors history. And McGann has redeemed himself by being the Doctor pretty much longer than anyone and he's still got enough fans that they've never stopped his audio adventures.

• new logo = Simple. Smart. I like it.

• "Where do I start?" Start with "An Unearthly Child" 1963. Work forward from there. Soon you will worship at the altar of the goddess Barbara (Yetaxa if you're nasty).

• @Michael: "but so we'll give her a clone as a booby prize. The hell was all that?" A clone that ages like a regular human but acts like The Doctor, don't forget. In other words, it was Davies giving Tennant an out in case he wants to do a multi-doctor story for some future Christmas / Children in Need thing. Which, for all the bad things I have to say about RTD, was pretty cool of him. (I mean, it also gave all the whackjob fans their Rose / Doctor kiss, but, seriously now, we know what's more important, right?) As for the "where to start?" thing, agreed on the first episode of the new series as being an ideal spot, although the first season is a bit flat in retrospect. Actually, this is the best catchup video they've ever done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPIr3REo4X4&feature=related (That narrator guy has a good voice, wonder if he's ever done anything? :) )

• RE:Darkwing Duck, It'd be kind of cool for the Doctor to say "Let's get dangerous" even just once...

• guess they are trying to show the new changes to the show by getitng rid of the old stuff and new though the thing looks lame to me

• To be fair, Bãron vønKlýff, the Paul McGann Doctor was actually a Canadian production, not American . . . it just aired on Fox in America. And I for one thought that though the episode was hammy and silly at times, he was a very intriguing actor to be the Doctor, and would've like to seen more. I don't care what the logo looks like, as long as the new Doctor doesn't fall in love with his companion then strand her in another dimension forever and ever no coming back we mean it then oops she came back but so we'll give her a clone as a booby prize. The hell was all that?

• DW makes me think of Arthur's little sister. Do not want. :|

• @ MattK and Patrick: Preach on, brothers! Let's. Get. Dangerous. (Okay, NOW I want a DW feature. Or maybe a feature-length compilation of new DW adventures a la Animatrix/Gotham Knight.)

• @liquidhalcyon: I dunno, I think the TARDIS one would be good on the spine, and the full one for the front and back covers...

• It's nice, but It's not as DVD package friendly as the previous incarnation.

• I like it, but anything is better than that terrible surfboard looking logo.

• I like it. +1 on the retro coolness.

• Thanks for the link trickfred. It's wierd that I can't see a bbc video. I don't understand how tat happend. But anyway, the lgo looks alrigth. A bit too shiny.

• I think it's way cool! And I'm not being snarky. I really like it.

• I like the logo! I also think Matt Smith is going to be great. I don't get why everyone always whines about any little change.

• Actually, on second thought: less lens flare would be nice. Other than that, I still think it's great. It's got a cool retro look, and the stills of Matt Smith's Doctor made me think of the Hartnell era for some reason which is in no way a bad thing. As long as it doesn't recall Colin Baker, retro-style Doctor Who is always fine by me.

• I like both the new name logo and the new TARDIS inspired design, but I hope they're used SEPERATELY. Using both together would just feel redundant. Also, as soon as you know the new mix or arrangement of the theme song... I NEED TO KNOW!!!

• I think the new logo is okay. And I actually have a good feeling about Matt Smith as well. Don't ask me what I'm basing this on other than sad nerd hopes, but still.

• Start with the Christopher Eccleston series, and follow it through the four series that have aired so far. If you are then interested in the whole whole concept, and would also like to enjoy some really horrible special effects married to some terrific story lines, then you can wade into all of the previous Doctors... Pertwee, Baker, Davidson, Baker and McCoy. Unfortunalely, a good portion of the original Doctors, Hartnell and Troughton, are lost to time, mismanagement and fire. As I said earlier, I have been a fan since I first watched the show as a kid during the Pertwee tenure, but all of the doctors brought something interesting to the part (McGann, the non-Doctor Doctor excepted).

• Okay, I am sad to say I'm not all that familiar with the series.. that is why I would like to ask for some help. Where do I start? Take pity on my poor upbringing. Doctor Who is HUUUGE. I have seen one or two episodes, and a handful of Torchwood... But if I'm gonna do it Right, where in the series should I start?

• The last logo looked like it came from a Photoshop 101 class and was much crappier than the superior logos of the original series. This new logo is a step up.

• For those like me that can't see it due to lame meatspace border limitations: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/medialibrary/images/misc/logos/new_logo_512.jpg

• The video can't be viewed in my country..so now I guess I look for it on youtube...

• Agree with everyone about the opening sequence. I already have my doubts about the new doctor. Leave well enough alone. Come on BBC. Don't go all Heroes on use. New logo = Meh

• Exactly, Patrick, DW just makes me think Darkwing Duck. Lets get dangerous! Doctor Smashy also pointed out that DW is Arthur's sister, neither of which make me think of Doctor Who.

• it could be worse, i'm sure, but why fix what isn't broken? always have to "new and improve" shit, huh.

• When there's trouble you call DW! Darkwing . . . oh wait, I mean Doctor Who.

• I would have liked to see a version of it without the lens flare crap...Even the reflection is a bit much. It looks like an intern just slapped it together for the old iTunes store... That isn't to go without saying that I like the idea of making it look like the Tardis. But c'mon...it could have been pushed so much further... And yes, opening credits matter more...wonder if they're going to make the logo float around instead of a tardis...heh...

• Ergh stop posting videos to stuff you can't see out of the US. What's wrong with the official site anyhow? http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/logo/index.shtml

• Geoff nailed it. The opening credits are all.

• Also DW just makes me think of Arthur's little sister, which is a little inappropriate.

• Okay, I like BBC and Doctor Who and all, and I know that it's been around longer, but there is only ONE DW, and that's Darkwing Duck!

• I know the Tardis is supposed to be DW, but it actually looks like OW. Sort of a visual representation of the pain some Who fans will have in their hearts when they see the new logo.

• Boo-urns! It's too similar to the old Who text of the late 80s.

• Somehow, if they use that logo in the opening credits, it just won't be the same. I hope they update the theme -- that rock version was sweet. Maybe more techno this time? And yes, @Nomad Scry, it fits perfectly with British aesthetic. :p

• I kinda like it, it's not bad but nothing special, and I agree with Geoff as well, the openings the thing.

• Its going to go all Buffy.

• Looks just fine. @Geofff's right, the opening credits are where it's at.

• Well. That was... something. It's clever and drab at the same time. Kind of appropriate, really.

• awesome! not the best use of font, color, etc. but it does scream doctor who. if you are talking about the doctor inevitably you will bring up the tardis at some point.....either preceded or followed by the daleks.

• I like to say that I reserve my judgment on the new pre-pubescent Doctor, but combine that with the totally underwhelming "new" logo for the series has be cringing even before Tennant is out of the role. I have been a Who nerd since I was five, and Jon Pertwee was the Doctor, and apart from the abortion that was the Americanized Paul McGann version (which I do NOT accept as a true doctor), this is pretty much as bad as it gets. Yet, I still reserve my judgment and will watch the tween Doctor in his new outing. I just don't have to like it. *grumble, grumble, Blargh.

• Eh, the logo's unimportant. On the other hand, the OPENING CREDITS are a matter of world-shattering importance and I expect daily updates on rumours regarding them.

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