• Why not shock Tim with an idea that even shocks Tarantino? I'm writing that idea, so see uh... shock you soon.

• I'd fuck Tim Burton. You bitches just don't appreciate genius. Why don't you go back to watching Oldboy or Let the Right One In and tell me how cinema verite is treating you. :)

• Batman Returns is like Burton's big "Fuck You" to WB. He obviously had no interest in making another Batman movie so he made a Burton movie with Batman characters plugged in.

• If playing only one type of character isn't acting, then that strips the acting chops off of a lot of character 'performers' like Steve Buscemi

• I think my opinion of Burton headed downhill with Sweeney Todd. I love that musical, and while Burton's adaption was palatable enough, the original had an--an oomph, a bass-line, some timbre, a <i>visceral </i>and very solid punch to the gut in the vocals of Len Cariou and the screaming of the factory whistle that Depp (who as I recall told magazines quite proudly about not taking any voice lessons at all during the filming) and Carter's thready, delicate, gothic singing didn't come anywhere near, theatrical gushes of blood or no. And every time I see anything about Johnny Depp in Wonderland I want to throw it (the magazine, the computer, the TV, whatever) out the nearest window. About the only thing that could make me want to see that movie is hearing that it's actually about Alice and that Depp is in one scene of reasonable length and never shows up again; he's just in the trailers for the big name actor promotion. Slaying the Jabberwock to save Wonderland from the tyranny of the Red Queen? Seriously? The stories are <i>supposed</i> to be disjointed and surreal; Burton saying he didn't feel 'an emotional connection' so he wanted to give it more plot is, to me, missing the basic mood of the stories already. God, it makes me rage. *coughs* Which is to say, hear hear.

• Popular doesn't always equal good.

• I'm not saying the video isn't 100% right about his movies, but during the planet of the apes half an hour special on the Fox network he looked and sounded like the most depressed man in the world.

• For the same reasons that <i>Twilight</i> succeeded, probably.

• I stand by my assertion.

• Burton is an asshole. Because of him there won't be a movie adaption of Mcgee's Alice, which is the true definition of original creepyness. And I am speaking of a movie adaption without Uwe Boll or Disney. Ah well, at least there will be a game sequel.

• Depp is the shit! He may be the best actor of our generation.

• This smacks of the creators imbibing on a bit too much Haterade. This video is much funnier: http://www.babelgum.com/4025144?action=share

• Burton's best movies, Ed Wood and Big Fish, are radical departures from his typical style. Edward Scissorhands is the best of his "Gothic" styled movies. But, I get really tired of everyone saying he's some kind of mad creative artist. Applying the same pseudo-Gothic expressionist overlay to almost EVERYTHING you do is NOT creative. Sometimes his style backfires on him horribly, like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. His latest film is just evidence that he's one of the least creative directors working today. He needs to ditch Carter, Depp, Elfman's recycled circus music and do something different.

• We just wrote <i>Transformers 3</i>.

• Yeah, ditto.

• I... I would like to pipe up here to say that Sweeney Todd did not suck. The man may be bad at remakes, but too many movie-musicals turn out absolutely horrid. (Seriously, did anyone see Nine?) His uber-goth style complimented the play, even if the bastard cut the hell-song Ballad of Sweeney Todd. And, really? The man likes the money this formula makes. He's mainstreamed himself, so of course he's now on the wrong side of nerd-rage. We hate betrayal.

• My desire to see Tim Burton movies ended with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Now if I go to see one of his movies, it's because it just happened to be the best choice at the time. I haven't seen a Tim Burton movie since Charlie and the Chocolate Factory come to think of it.

• I gotta disagree about Depp. He's clearly talented and very much an actor.

• If everyone thinks the guy is a hack, then why do people keep going to see his movies? Why do they continue to make money?

• I too have found that Burton is getting a little played, but I will always love the man for giving me Beetlejuice. How I love that movie. I also love Sleepy Hollow, Batman, Batman Returns, Pee Wee's Big Adventure and Big Fish. I wish he would stop using HBC and Depp. I have talked about this extensively with my friends.

• BAYSPLOSION!!!

• That was almost as good as Sweeny Todd. And Sweeny Todd was shit Oh Snap!!!

• Let's not get crazy here. He may be a hack at this point, but it's a rare individual that could even be mentioned in the same breath as Bay. Bay is an auteur of crap.

• that scary thing of that video is that is proably how Tim deals with movie execs not to mention i could just see Tim doing a pied Piper or little red ridding hood movie with Johnny depp .

• You know, I know that he's been a bit lazy lately, but the man made Pee-Wee's Big Adventure...so I can never hate him....

• Two Words: Penguin Pallbearers. And how exactly did Catwoman become Catwoman? By falling out of a window and getting licked by 14 cats? Don't get me started.

• Nailed it.

• I really like Big Fish... and that's it. Planet of the Apes was horrible, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was extremely over rated. I haven't seen Ed Wood, though.

• Still love ol' Timmy. And despite some quite disastrous missteps, he's still capable of brilliance. Big Fish, Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd were all fantastic. I don't give a shit if he wants to use the same actors in every film, it's not like he's the only director to ever do it. Furthermore, his visual style isn't quite so simple as "paint everything black". Big Fish was actually quite colorful and vibrant, and much as I found the visual in "Chocolate Factory" to be headache-inducing, it still showed he could branch out. I'm skeptical of "Alice", but I'm still willing to give it a chance. You never know.

• I haven't seen Tim Burton In Wonderland, but still... http://bit.ly/aZaywH

• SAME HERE!

• I disagree. The Johnny Depp in Fear and Loathin in Las Vegas is NOT the same Johnny Depp in Sleepy Hollow.

• "And his first Batman wasn't good. It was just the "least worst" of the 4 from 1989-1997." Honestly, I think Batman Returns was the better of the two, for many reasons but largely because Batman doesn't blow up about 300 mooks near the climax. Sure, it's from an era when DC wasn't shouting "BATMAN DOESN'T KILL" from the rooftops, but that just seems SO wrong these days. I mean, shit, the ending of Crisis on two Earths wasn't nearly as blatant, and everyone's reacting to it like it's the most horrible thing they ever saw.

• Coming from someone who really dug Burton when I was young, I love this clip. Because I absolutely fucking hate him now. I used to have a "one shitty, then one good" theory but now it's all crap in a row. It's kinda like George Lucas. Used to love ya, now I hate ya, man. Maybe it's the same here...maybe BECAUSE we used to like the guy so much, that's the reason for the hatred-- now that's he's just an uninspired hack. I'm not sure why it took the raping of Lewis Carroll to finally get some backlash against his stupidity. I would have figured his idiotic and unnecessary Willy Wonka remake would have inspired this rage, but so be it. To those who only said he did 2 great movies, I think you're forgetting his early career. I have yet to see anyone mention "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure" or "Beetlejuice." Couple those with "Scissorhands," "Ed Wood" and "Big Fish" and that's a pretty great set of movies. Burton only wrote "Nightmare Before Christmas." Henry Selick directed it. Selick directed "Coraline," though, and Burton did direct "Corpse Bride." Tell me which of those was charming and which was shite. And for the record Batman Returns was as bad (or worse) than Batman And Robin. There I said it. And his first Batman wasn't good. It was just the "least worst" of the 4 from 1989-1997.

• Right because his portrayal of Hunter Thompson was so exactly like Captain Jack Sparrow which was exactly like Ed Wood. Wow - you're so right, I think I just saw the universe puke up a hairball. Cosmic baby. Or perhaps not. ACK! PTHEW!

• I think of them. Usually in conjunction with a woodchipper.

• 100% accurate? If there was a number more perfect than 100%, that is what this would be. Although, the guy playing Burton didn't make me want to nail his penis to a moving bus--- so there's that. Seriously, that guy is such a putz. And his publicists' name... is Bumble. Ward.

• Hey, without Burton going back to the same well over and over, Hot Topic would be out of business now. WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE MAKEUP-WEARING, 'IRONIC' T-SHIRT WEARING, THINK THEY'RE REBELLING BUT REALLY ARE JUST FITTING INTO AN EVEN DUMBER STEREOTYPE CHILDREN!?!

• Yeah, I mean the character he always puts on is an amazing character and I do enjoy watching him, but it does get samey all the time. Also, obviously the characters are different characters lol, but they're all from the same sort of blueprint, if you get what I mean.

• I love Tim Burton. Yeah, this video is totally right (the Danny Elfman thing really got me) but I don't care. I think the only movie of his I didn't really like was his second Batman (missile penguins?!?!?) and even that is full of great oddball stuff. A lot of artists are locked into a distinctive style, even a formula, the question is whether they can produce something worth watching. He's never going to achieve anything great doing remakes (almost nobody can- Batman Begins was an exception) -but he's achieved so much greatness with his original stuff (they're still making new "Nightmare Before Christmas" stuff 10+ years later), he will always be an artist of note.

• This is true. Ed Wood's the only movie of his I've liked... yeah, pretty much since Batman Returns.

• This guy made the movies of my childhood -- many I'd still consider classics. So it's a huge shame to see what's become of him. He just churns out remake after remake that all look the same these days. Clearly, the death of his dad made him stop caring, although all his rehashes have daddy issues in them (which is the only thing he seems to care about anymore).

• Explosion! Military imagery! Explosion! Explosion!<br> EXPLOSION!

• Give us another Ed Wood!

• It's also a nice tribute to the man himself, Ed Wood. Seeing the lovingly recreated film sets and being shown how he did his crappy effects is a great thing to watch. Martin Landau also kicks ass as an oddly foul-mouthed Bela Lugosi.

• If those are only one character, then it's one hell of a character.

• Fair enough. I'll add it to my ZipList and check it out. I'm willing to give anything a try. That's how I ended up seeing <i>The Butterfly Effect</i>.<br> If the movie sucks, though, it's your ass, domo.

• Ed Wood is great. There's the usual stuff about a weird tortured outsider played by Johnny Depp, but it's all about the love of filmmaking and creating art by your own rules. I love that movie.

• Yup. It's easily his best and bares none of his usual trademark quirk, other than the characters being goofy outsiders, but they're based on real people who WERE goofy outsiders, so there you go.

• I really loved all his Gothic stuff when I was younger but I just find it boring. Same with Depp, I thought he was an amazing actor but he's just a performer, he can only play one character and that isn't acting.

• Know what? Never seen it. If it has Burton's name attached to it, I'll usually avoid it.<br> Are you saying that <i>Ed Wood</i> doesn't suck? Is it worth checking out?

• That kinda worked for Sam Raimi...

• Scorsese has his DiCaprio hang-up, and Burton his Depp love. There's two leading men of sick of. Not fond of Helena Bonham Carter, either. Or that gothic look Burton loves.

• Tim Burton is a lot better off with his own, original ideas, and his earliest movies are the best. I hate what he did with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Alice in Wonderland looks like a completely Carrol-less CGI mess.

• Not even Ed Wood? That's a great movie and you wouldn't even know he directed it, it's got none of his typical flourishes.

• This guy is perhaps the most frustrating director for me personally. Sometime after Mars Attacks bombed, he became Burton 2.0, got incredibly lazy and started just making "Burton-ified" remakes. As much as I liked it, Sleepy Hollow was the beginning of the end. Man, how I wish he still had another Scissorhands or Ed Wood left in him, but I just don't know anymore.

• Well I just can't wait for his next big movie: the remake of his own short Frankenweenie because you know nothing says genius like remaking your own work.....

• Yeah, the guy needs a new style. He's done the same tricks (and the same actors) a lot of times and it was brilliant the first few times. Now, it's just boring. Timmy, give us some new magic of watch your reputation crumble.

• Hey now, I liked Ed Wood and Big Fish and...nope, hated everything else he's done. Danny Elfman=lawl.

• still better than peter jackson...

• Is it weird that the thing I took away from this is how much guy playing Tim Burton's voice sounds just like Dan Castellaneta's?

• All true. Except Danny Elfman is hotter. Go watch "The Forbidden Zone," Danny Elfman plays the Devil. Shirtless.

• I don't like Tim Burton. At all. Fuck Tim Burton.<br> There. I said it.

• Really he's only ever been slightly better than Michael Bay.

TotalComments: 64