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I'm a geek.
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Up until the recent nerd-pride thing, I thought the title "nerd" was the worst, implying... well, exactly as on the Venn Diagram. I think the geek part not being part of social ineptitude probably comes from "Rise of the Nerds". Also chicks love to refer to themselves as dorks for some reason. Wierdos
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You're all friggin nerds for obsessing over this article. Now go out and snort some blow already like real Americans.
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I think this diagram works fairly well, though I'm pretty sure I haven't heard the word "dweeb" since elementary school. Like others have stated, I think nerd and geek should be swapped, but everything else looks kosher to me.
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Wall of Text Alert (Hello from nerd land!): Frick. I'm trying to take ZeroCorpse's idea of hyperactivity and incorporate it in to the whole. Actually, I think a certain level of hyperactivity (or perhaps, in order to cut out the ADHD connotations, I should say <i>mania</i>) is essential to visible obsession. One can be obsessive without being manic - I won't outwardly flip out or start giggling about, say, a particularly good reference to something unless I'm already in a really active mood. I have friends, however, who are complete manic-obsessives about Hetalia - if you so much as dare to mention a country to them they'll be howling with laughter, and there are two of them taking a class together about propaganda. (They giggle about invasions in their college class, at a volume not un-noticed by the other students.) So, let's sort out what they are: Me: Obsessive, anti-social and intelligent (i.e. Nerd). "D": Obsessive, intelligent, manic, non-social (i.e. Spazzy Nerd?). "J": Obsessive, manic, social despite having cosplayed at school (don't question the paradox). (i.e. Not on the chart at all. What do I do now?) "B": Intelligent, social, manic, obsessive, (the Spazzy Geek). "C": Intelligent, hosts beer-filled parties and yet is a bisexual boy with a fursona, scrawls "yaoi" and other gay references on the white-boards, and is programming a fan-made Pokemon game that he loves to talk about. He appears to be highly successful, socially, and yet fulfils every requirement of a pariah. Fuck it, he's a social; also manic and particularly obsessive. Spazzy Geek again. The trouble with this whole thing? I rarely hear the words "[Fandom] Geek". I always hear "[Fandom] Nerd", yet the majority seem to think it's Geek, here. It's all based on the geography of the Internet, really - whichever group of sites you visit most often determines what you say. Or, real-life locations will. It's always darned hard to tell which has a stronger influence.
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Huh. I've always considered the only distinction between nerds and geeks to be that nerds are smart while geeks are not. A geek would be someone who plays counter strike all day, and nerd is used more in an academic context.
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This far along and nobody has referenced Milhouse? "I'm not a nerd, Bart!" -slight pause- "Nerds are smart."
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What in the world am I then ? I read comic books play some video games , but I do not have much of a social life , and my intellect is not that good either . But on the other hand I do not do any of the fallowing : co-play larping, I am not obsessed with anything either , and I will not go to conventions .
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I think in this case, Geek represents more of a tech spin i.e. computer geek. Most of the people I know who are waaay into programming, codes and shit, consider themselves geeks. Also, I love the Dweeb reference, though a socially inept genius is also the basis for most super villains. Sooo, don't fuck with dweebs,am I right?
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that chart could be read any way for both geek and nerd could be switched since some of the brighest minds like einstein and steven Hawkings are considered nerds. geek to me is a term used because some one is so obsessed and passionate about a subject they become obsessive with the subject. having to know everything dork. still should be considered and insult to nerds and geeks.for that thing is a chart of one persons opinion should not be taken as written in stone about geeks, nerds or dorks.
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Rest assured, if you arguing with someone here about these definitions, you belong on the chart.
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If they write 2-3 sentences, they are a geek. Any more, and they are a nerd. Per my prior reasoning which also brands me a nerd.
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Didn't I cover this in a post here on Topless Robot many moons ago? - I personally agree with this diagram. It's perfect, but for one thing: There's no entry for "spazz", which would add a whole new category-- Hyperactivity-- to the diagram. - That said, a "spazz" is equal parts hyperactive and socially inept. Akin to a dork, but minus the obsession (they're too ADD/ADHD to be obsessed with anything for long). - Otherwise, yeah; Geeks are brainy, but have some social graces, while Nerds are brainy and tend not to know how to dress, talk to people, or turn down the dial on their nerdiness when in public. - A nerd, dork or dweeb cosplays. A geek does not. A nerd, dork, or dweeb corners strangers on the bus to talk about their World of Warcraft characters. A geek does not. - Nerds tend to be math-smart. Geeks tend to be word-smart.
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Just looked up the definition of each... <blockquote> Nerd is a term often bearing a derogatory connotation or stereotype, that refers to a person who passionately pursues intellectual activities ... an intelligent but single-minded expert in a particular technical field or profession <br> A dork is a quirky, silly and/or stupid, socially inept person, or one who is out of touch with contemporary trends. Often confused with nerd and geek, but does not imply the same intelligence level jerk: a dull stupid fatuous person <br> The word geek is a slang term, noting individuals as a peculiar or otherwise odd person, especially one who is perceived to be overly obsessed with one or more things including those of intellectuality, electronics, etc. eccentric: a person with an unusual or odd personality <br> A dweeb is a boring, studious, or socially inept person; 1980s American slang backronym: Dim-Witted Eastern-Educated Boor; being derived from the social differences and attitudes on the West Coast vs. the East Coast, often said to describe the typical Ivy-league grads from Harvard, Yale, etc an insignificant student who is ridiculed as being affected or boringly studious" </blockquote> That all pretty much matches what I've always known. Nerds are smart but introverted. Geeks are generally obsessive, but not necessarily smart. Dorks are both stupid and socially inept. A dweeb is intelligent, and not necessarily a loner, but not with an obsessive personality. So the Venn diagram is broken because "dweeb" doesn't really fit in there. You'd need to switch Nerd with Dweeb and then find a new word for a person with all three. I suggest "Hogzlerhumper"
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How interesting! This is EXACTLY how I think of it!
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Just looked up the definition of each... <blockquote> Nerd is a term often bearing a derogatory connotation or stereotype, that refers to a person who passionately pursues intellectual activities ... an intelligent but single-minded expert in a particular technical field or profession <br> A dork is a quirky, silly and/or stupid, socially inept person, or one who is out of touch with contemporary trends. Often confused with nerd and geek, but does not imply the same intelligence level jerk: a dull stupid fatuous person <br> The word geek is a slang term, noting individuals as a peculiar or otherwise odd person, especially one who is perceived to be overly obsessed with one or more things including those of intellectuality, electronics, etc. eccentric: a person with an unusual or odd personality <br> A dweeb is a boring, studious, or socially inept person; 1980s American slang backronym: Dim-Witted Eastern-Educated Boor; being derived from the social differences and attitudes on the West Coast vs. the East Coast, often said to describe the typical Ivy-league grads from Harvard, Yale, etc an insignificant student who is ridiculed as being affected or boringly studious" </blockquote> That all pretty much matches what I've always known. Nerds are smart but introverted. Geeks are generally obsessive, but not necessarily smart. Dorks are both stupid and socially inept. A dweeb is intelligent, and not necessarily a loner, but not with an obsessive personality. So the Venn diagram is broken because "dweeb" doesn't really fit in there. You'd need to switch Nerd with Dweeb and then find a new word for a person with all three. I suggest "Hogzlerhumper"
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Everyone seems to be having a serious discussion on this subject, does that make everyone here nerds or geeks? I myself am most certainly a dork.
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I've seen this before and it generally jives with my conception of the terms. I've always seen "geek" as the softer variation of "nerd", here quantified as lacking the social ineptitude of nerdism. Thing to note is that "geeky" topics can be of interest to nerds as well. I'd see the differentiation mostly as useful in catagorism fandoms. I would call myself a Joss Whedon geek, for instance. Own all the DVD's, watch all the shows, even reading the Buffy and Angel comic books and even saw him in person, albeit giving a talk on secular humanism in popular culture. At that talk, though, I was reminded of what separates me from Whedon nerdom. A Whedon nerd will relate to his shows in a socially awkward manner. I can talk about why I like Buffy with someone who isn't a fan and be able to relate to them. A Whedon nerd wouldn't. They'd geek out to such an extent that they'd have no capacity to explain the show to a newbie and would get bogged down in whatever arcane aspect of the show currently has captured their focus. I might make someone think, "Hmm, maybe I should check that out." The nerd would leave them with, "This all seems really imposing and off-putting." A phenomenon I've witnessed first hand as Galactica nerds have made it hard for me to get into the series. The key is, even geeks will have nerdy moments. We might even have a generalized curiousity about the nerdier aspects of the subjects we geek about it. We can, after all, appreciate the nerding out without participating given our geeky obsessive interest. And while not a Whedon nerd, I am a nerd for some things. Blog commenting, for instance. When I do (case in point), I tend to make grandly overdeveloped contributions to a discussion which had little interest or capacity for such participation. I get this, but it rarely stops me. This is, essentially, an element of social ineptitude. I'm so excited by my complimentary thoughts from the original post that I just have to share them in all their unnecessary length. But social standards would demand something more along the lines of "Good point. I agree." This is, thus, me nerding out. Blog commenting itself, I'd suggest, is fundamentally geeky, but my inability to socially relate to it the way most do results in a nerdy relationship instead of a geeky one. If that makes any sense, my apologies. You're probably a nerd. Huzzah!
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Its from graph jam. http://graphjam.com/
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I never really thought about this before, but the variations in opinions here obviously mean that none of this is well defined by any widely-accepted authority. I always understood that nerds were socially inept geeks. According to this chart (and my vocabulary preference) I'm a cut and dry geek.
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maybe it's splitting hairs between simplicity and simplistic. i've met some who are studious rather than obsessive, and others who prefer privacy to publicity. but it's a smart way to sort the names. what i've grown up with... geeks are to fiction what nerds are to nonfiction. so where's the venn t-shirt?
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Well I guess that makes you a dork. Because geeks, nerds, and dweebs would understand how to read a Venn diagram.
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I think the one thing that nobody has mentioned (and this my friends is what confirms us all as nerds) is that nobody was even shocked to see that someone made a venn diagram of this. Nobody thought it was funny, it was just taken as normal. If someone made one of these for terms to describe popular or "cool" people the 1st thing those people would say is "why did someone do this?" We on the other hand think that it makes perfect sense that someone drew this up and only contest our placement on it. And THAT is why we are nerds. I for one am proud to be in the center of it. Much like the sun, this venn universe revolves around us.
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I've always stuck by my grade-school friend's definition of spaz: an obsessive who lacks full control over his bodily functions (i.e. lisping, stuttering, clumsiness, etc.), and are the type that corners you at the comic book store to give a too-loud monologue about how much he loves/hates some Naruto character, or something, spittle spraying on your face as you try desperately to escape.
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yeah to me intelligence implies social ineptitude and I donno how exclusive obsession is from both of them; it's rare to find an intelligent person who isn't obsessivenly into something, in fact, I dare say that obsession is required to be intelligent.
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For a while, I thought of it in a sense of scientific classification: Geek being the genus and Nerd and Dork are the species. Nerds were more focused on one aspect of Geekery (say, <i>Star Wars or Star Trek</i>, but never both) and were more socially inept, while the Dorks had a more well-rounded appreciation of things and weren't entierly socially inept. For a time, I considered myself a Dork. However, since then my feelings on the subject have changed and I thought "screw it," eschewed that whole (nerdy) line of thinking, and call myself a nerd now. Still, I thought the whole Genus/Species idea was fun. And I haven't heard anyone use the term "dweeb" in years, so I don't have any thoughts on that.
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Yes. It's really in the last decade where "geek" has been totally co-opted by the "cool nerds" to the point where the above diagram's dichotomy makes sense. (It was a different story when I was in grade school in the eighties.) This is, I think, a fairly accurate map of how things stand now; it might change or ossify a decade from now.
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Are doofus, dork, and dweeb the same thing??? What about the spazz?? I kind of agree with the chart to an extent. I normally do not associate GEEKS are being necessarily intelligent. NERDS are the smart ones and many of them are socially inept, but some are not. GEEKS are obsessive and a few are intelligent, but most are just really obsessed about something and are kind of stupid and difficult to have a regular conversation with. NERDS: Steve Wozniak, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Peter Jackson, scientists, engineers, software developers, programmers, mathematicians, theorists, lawyers, poets, novelists, biographers, historians, classical musicians, etc. GEEKS: Larry Ellison, Steve Jobs, James Cameron, Ridley Scott, Bob Costas, Conan O'Brien, David Letterman, softball guy, baseball guy, collector of anything, bloggers, journalists (sports, entertainment, political, etcs), chefs, marketing guy, political scientists, psychologists, documentarians, animators, cartoonists, musicians (Jazz, Rock, R&B, etc.), critics, etc. DORK/DWEEB/DOOFUS: Dustin Diamond, Tom Green, Eric Wareheim, Tim Heidecker, Kevin Smith, local sports anchor, meteorologist, carny, bus driver, accountant, human resources, risk management, librarian, repair technician, data entry, electronics retail person, florist, dentists, etc.
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I guess it depends how far you define obsession. For instance, I will watch anything with "Star Trek" in front of it at least once. However, I will be critical if I think it sucks, and I don't own any peripheral Star Trek merchandise. Is that obsession?
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My dad always summed it up as: "Nerds have are interested in technology; geeks live for it." But I have to agree that the Venn Diagram also sums it up pretty nicely.
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My friends and I always felt the big difference between Geek and Nerd was that Geek's can blend in and not be spotted across the street, until you hit their "geek button" and they start yammering on about whatever their particular geek thing is. Nerds, on the other hand, do not blend and stand out to the point that Ogre can spot them from the top of a frat house a block away. So for me this Venn is right on track. Thanks for sharing it.
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At the Naked Girls Reading Science Fiction event in New York City, the mistress of ceremonies, Nasty Canasta, explained it thusly: "Nerds are smart, dorks are awkward, geeks are obsessed." And since her reading of Ray Bradbury was nicely complimented by her impeccably trimmed bush, I'm inclined to agree with her.
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I have and always will say that Geeks are the best. You get all the awesomeness without the social problems of the other two. In fact I wrote a college essay and a huge blog post about my opinion on it. I'll link in case anyone wants to read my insane rant: http://lastgeek.com/lets-end-this-difference-between-geek-nerd-and-dork/
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Well, to be fair "itelligence" when it comes to fans and fanatics is relative.
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Are doofus, dork, and dweeb the same thing??? What about the spazz?? I kind of agree with the chart to an extent. I normally do not associate GEEKS are being necessarily intelligent. NERDS are the smart ones and many of them are socially inept, but some are not. GEEKS are obsessive and a few are intelligent, but most are just really obsessed about something and are kind of stupid and difficult to have a regular conversation with. NERDS: Steve Wozniak, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Peter Jackson, scientists, engineers, software developers, programmers, mathematicians, theorists, lawyers, poets, novelists, biographers, historians, classical musicians, etc. GEEKS: Larry Ellison, Steve Jobs, James Cameron, Ridley Scott, Bob Costas, Conan O'Brien, David Letterman, softball guy, baseball guy, collector of anything, bloggers, journalists (sports, entertainment, political, etcs), chefs, marketing guy, political scientists, psychologists, documentarians, animators, cartoonists, musicians (Jazz, Rock, R&B, etc.), critics, etc. DORK/DWEEB/DOOFUS: Dustin Diamond, Tom Green, Eric Wareheim, Tim Heidecker, Kevin Smith, local sports anchor, meteorologist, carny, bus driver, accountant, human resources, risk management, librarian, repair technician, data entry, electronics retail person, florist, dentists, etc.
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Clearly it's all a matter of perspective. Words are just symbols, carrying whatever significance we attribute to them. I don't know that it's possible to create a chart that all of us agree on, unless all of us agree to henceforth use the definitions as prescribed in said chart. It's all a matter of opinion. Hell, 'geek' used to be a term for sideshow freaks and has since evolved into... this. I'm not even sure where I'd say it fits on the diagram. In a way, I kind of question the inherent circles themselves. Are these really the only three factors involved? Are they so easily separated? But now we're getting into a ridiculously in-depth analysis of what I consider to be an amusing and pretty simple, straight-forward chart. I'm for it. But willing to consider alternatives (entirely too lazy to make one myself, of course).
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To continue the nerd/jock smiliarity discusssion, I'd say a couple of categories: Fan: Intelligence Fanatic: Intelligence/Obsession/social ineptitude.
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Agreed. Social ineptitude doesn't fit with geek, given that it brideges well past the usual areas of the culture. Dork is the trifecta to be avoided, nerd carries a little stigma but isn't the perfect storm combination. Though it dawns on me that you could just replace a lot of this with big bang characters and still be totally accurate. Leonard - Nerd Sheldon - the perfect storm of a dork Evil Wil - Geek (lacking the social ineptitudes and being Wheaton) Howard - Dweeb Of course, now I wonder where I land for thinking this.
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100% in Zombiezeus's camp. Though everyone's mileage may vary, nerds have always held the distinction of being "book smart", while dorks were the socially awkward ones. Geek has sort of gradually gotten adopted as the(self inflicted) term of affectation for comic book, video game, role playing humans and so on Fun, silly conversation to be had though.
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I almost completely agree with the diagram. I think that dork and dweeb should be switched. In my high school years, dorks had intelligence and the term dweeb was never used. Anyone who could have been a dweeb was called much worse than that. For instance, the less smart kids were called stupid, slow, and special. The geeks, however, were on the honor roll and held seats on the student council; they also were the most outspoken of the classes. The nerds (which I am one by the way) hated talking and socializing outside of their circle.
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I actually wrote an article about this for thecomiccollective.com back when it...y'know...existed. But essentially, I believe it works like this: NERDS are very smart about widely-applicable, useful things like math, science, history, whathaveyou, and tend to be socially awkward/antisocial. GEEKS, while also very smart, accumulate knowledge about things that are not particularly useful in the real world, largely focusing on entertainment properties, table top games, video games, etc. They are also more social creatures, seeking out like-minded individuals with which to share their obsessions. DORKS (I believe I called them the same thing in my article) are neither particularly smart nor socially capable, and don't obsess over anything in particular. There is always overlap--there are certainly plenty of geeks that have lots and lots of smarts about 'useful' things and there are plenty of nerds who can hold their own at a party--but I tend to find these distinctions hold true. On a recent trip to Boston, I saw the dichotomy play out before my eyes: across from me on the T, two young man sat, both clearly not...y'know, quarterbacks, or anything. The more verbose young man was talking about his latest exploits in Dungeons & Dragons, and his thinner, more-awkward companion mumbled some "Oh really?"s in response, but clearly wasn't up for conversation. The talkative young man continued unabated, until the quiet one took out his DS and started playing, which of course prompted Mr. Talky to ask him which version of Pokemon he was playing, and what he thought of the merits of Platinum vs. another version, etc. The quiet one just sort of nodded and continued to play. The talkative one, you see, was a Geek, friendly and jovial and seeking the companionship of another. The quiet one was a Nerd, sharing many of the same characteristics (neither one saw the detrimental effects of talking about D&D whilst surrounded by seemingly-eligible, attractive young women sitting among them on the T, for instance) as the Geek, but choosing not to or not quite knowing how to engage in a conversation. They both shared an affinity for video games and table-top gaming, obviously, and they both went to MIT, but they each outwardly displayed the prime characteristic that separates a Geek from a Nerd. I would venture to say that the majority of the people who enjoy this site and engage on the forums are Geeks with Nerd tendencies. And no one here is a Dork. Unless you like Michael Bay movies. ZING!
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Vice versa for me - my friends and I always referred to each other as geeks with affection. I've never seen much use for "dweeb" either. I guess I've never met someone who was intelligent and socially inept who wasn't obsessed with something.
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I guess it's a matter of personal taste. Me, I always saw "geek" as a term used to label people with strange obsessions that tend to make them social pariahs. . Sort of like the carnival "geeks" that would bite the heads off of live animals--not exactly an endearing trait.
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Oh, I totally disagree. "Geek" in no way implies intelligence for one and two... "dweeb?" When was the last time you heard "dweeb?"
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So, what we have learned from this chart is that none of us have a uniform definition of any of those words. I think geek is fine where it is in the chart. The key defining characteristic of a geek to me is the obsessiveness: whether it be a comic geek, a music geek or a movie geek. And just in my own personal lexicon, a nerd can share any of the traits of the others but still has a slightly academic connotation; like those people have dry erase boards in their living rooms so they can solve complex equations for fun.
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Nerd and Geek should be switched.
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That's how I've always seen it. Geeks can be cool, Nerds generally aren't. Around here though, I think the line blurs somewhat.
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I agree with this 100%. (And, I am a dork.)
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I would like to think that I'm a geek, but certain social graces escape me. Plus I don't consider myself to be all that smart, despite what friends and family might tell me. Also, I'm not overly obsessive about stuff. I've seen obsessive, and I'm not it. That just leaves me with social ineptitude. What a horribly depressing revelation. Damn you Venn. Damn you and your diagram!
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When I think of nerds I think of people like Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Neil Degrasse Tyson... definitely highly intelligent and no one would argue their nerdiness. Plus, speaking from experience I was in accelerated classes in school and I was called a nerd (sometimes in jest and sometimes not) several times a week. Never heard of a stupid nerd. So I think the diagram is spot on. I have always used Nerd and Geek interchangeably though.
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This will always be the definition of Geek to me: http://www.pumpkinpulp.com/images/Zeek_the_Geek.jpg Thank you X-Files for enlightening me.
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I would definitely put Geek where Dork is, and put Dork where Dweeb is, but I'm having some difficulty beyond that. I don't think anyone uses the term "Dweeb" anymore, And the spot on the diagram that Geek currently occupies is confounding; is it really possible to be both intelligent AND obsessed, but still have some level of social skills? I'm having difficult picturing such a person.
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So according to this, geeks aren't socially inept? . I'd think being completely obsessed with <I>Star Wars</I>, <I>Star Trek</I>, <I>Avatar</I>, <I>Doctor Who</I>, Toy Collecting, Superheroes, LARPing, or anything that is tangentially related to Joss Whedon tends to make one a social pariah... sometimes even amongst the rest of us on the periphery of "cool" that aren't quite as obsessed as they are. . I mean, I like geeky stuff, but sometimes at the comic book or game shop I run across a "geek" that will annoy all the other patrons so badly with their incessant babbling about Darth Vader, Batman, Cloud Strife, Captain Kirk, or River Tam that they are effectively shunned by the only people that share their interests.
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I think it is actually spot on. When you see someone defined as a nerd in comics or books, a key factor is usually the social awkwardness. As for geek and dork. I prefer geek to be the lack of social ineptitude because I believe geek holds less of a negative connotation then either Dweeb or Dork. If anything i would see Dork and Dweeb swapped simply because I saw the smart kids in school called dorks, and dweeb tended to be the catch all for whatever was left. Me I know that I fit geek on this chart. But as it says in the Good Book 2.0 "The Geek Shall inherit the earth."
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"I generally think of "social ineptitude" as an intrinsic part of a "geek," but not intelligence" ----------------------- The only real difference between a Nerd and a Geek is that Nerds are socially inept and Geeks are not.
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I think there are a couple that are out of order... I agree that Nerd should be in the light green (combo intelligence/obsessiveness). In my experience, Nerds are the MOST socially capable of these stereotypes. We are the ones putting on various conventions, right? I would put Geek in the purple (combo intelligence/social ineptitude) and then put Dweeb in the center. Geeks never seemed very obsessive to me, but definitely pretty socially inept. I always assumed that Dweeb was the one that encompassed all 3, but each of Geek, Nerd, and Dork had that little bit of difference...
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I am glad I have intelligence otherwise I'd be a whale penis, and who wants that? Also this is an ancient (By internet standards anyway) post on graphjam.org WERE RUNNING BEHIND!
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I think "Revenge of the Nerds" shows us that nerds require social ineptitude, while the embrace of the word "geek" by smart and obsessive but otherwise fully functional members of society shows us that geeks are pretty comfortable with who they are and how much sex they have. I think this is right on. Rob, you may have been a nerd in college, but you're borderline geek now. I used to be a nerd, but I've somehow drifted into the dork region. Getting dumber, I guess.
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Sorry, you switch NERD and Dork, and it'll be perfect. Around these parts (being inside my head) A "geek" is anyone who becomes obsessed with a specific hobby or form of entertainment to the near exclusion of anything else. Sci-fi geeks, music geeks, Joss Whedon geeks, fantasy baseball geeks, movie quote geeks, etc.
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This is gonna piss some folks off, but I believe intelligence is necessary for nerds. We refer to NASA scientists as nerds, and those guys are pretty fucking sharp. Then you have Best Buy's "Geek Squad," which I think defines geek fairly well: tech-savvy, but really only needs to know how to plug things in correctly. Dweeb? I thought we stopped using that term after the '80s.
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I think it's pretty on. The one point you may have is that perhaps geek and dork should be swapped, but other than that i think it's as good as any definition(s) I've seen. I just had a discussion this weekend where i called someone a nerd but he corrected me and said, "no, I'ma geek" This chart would have come in handy. I personally think nerd and intelligence go hand in hand, but I could be wrong.
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I was trying to explain this to my mom the other day. THANK YOU VENN DIAGRAM
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Swap Geek and nerd, voila. Exactly how I always thought of it. I've always used Nerd as a term of endearment, while geek had a slightly negative connotation. Not overly, but it's got a hint of exasperation.
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