Hard to remember nowadays, but there was once a time when there had been only one Star Wars movie released. Devour found this old interview of an overenthusiastic yet desperate-to-be-taken-seriously-as-an-actor Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford at the very beginnings of his resentment for being Star Wars in 1980, just before Empire was released. And yes, that's Jane Pauley doing the interviewing. It's interesting on a lot of levels, not least of which is Hamill knew about the prequels even then, and Pauley's question of who ends up with Princess Leia, Han or Luke. Part II is after the jump.
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Uh, yeah, I forget how adorable Pauley was.
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Jane Pauley. Would. Today.
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Right after the original hit big, I remember many sci-fi mags stating that the plan was for there to be a total of nine films, including what became the prequels, the Luke Skywalker arc, and stories following that.
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bwaaaa haa haa haa
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I had no idea Harrison Ford wrote FFF.
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This may be the greatest sentence ever written.
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IIRC, the Annotated Screenplays always mentioned that at one time Lucas envisioned a final duel between Vader and Obi-Wan's spirit on his secret lava base. It's a shame some Director's Guild bullshit kept Kirshner from directing ROTJ. I think the film would have looked different and certain traps might have been avoided.
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Eh, on the other hand present-day Hamill seems to be a happier guy than present-day Ford, so YMMV.
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Compared to most Harrison Ford interviews, he was a scholar and a gentleman in this one.
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I knew he'd been claiming that he'd had them planned for years, but I just assumed he was lying through his teeth. It seems I have misjudged thee Mr Lucas.
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What Rocket Raccoon said...Harrison Ford isn't mister chippy movie star in interviews. He's pretty much as subdued and low key as you get when he does interviews. I didn't read that he was disingenuous about his praise for the film. I'd be willing to bet he really WAS happy with it. Although it does cast a shadow of bitter-doubt over Kurtz's claims that they never planned to do more than one movie until after SW did well.
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Harrison Ford doesn't like interviews. Sure, he had some things to say about the Star Wars franchise, but here, he does say, with about as much sincerity as he can muster, that he likes it. Y'all aren't very objective nerds, are you? This makes me feel old. Yeah, I was a little kid when all this went down, but I was there.
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Seriously? I thought everyone knew the prequels were planned. If I remember correctly, there were actually supposed to be 9 or 12 stories, although he didn't plan on making all of them into movies. There was even a graphic novel, at the time called a giant comic book.
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Actually having a pair of twins was always central to the story, even in the early drafts. One of the first plots actually had Leia on Tatooine and Luke on Alderaan (though I'm not sure if the names of the characters or the planets were quite locked down at that point, the last name might have still been Starkiller). There's a Ralph McQuarrie concept out there of a rather feminine looking "Luke" character; that's actually "Leia" had she been the one to go off with Obi-Wan.
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I hadn't heard it until you pointed it out, but he definitely does! If only the internet had existed in 1980 TR's predecessor site would have figured out the whole "Leia's your sister" thing after seeing that.
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Wow, and I always thought George Lucas was lying when he claimed he'd always planned on a prequel trilogy, and was just squeezing the franchise for more money to buy more plaid shirts...
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6 bucks flat at a cobb here in miami, but just the one. theres two others at $9.50 for adults
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Dear Gods, this is one of the most awkward interviews I've ever seen. I think it's because Jane Pauley has the hots for one/both of Mark and Harrison (see the ear rub in Pt 1), whilst Harrison just wants her and journalists everywhere to die horribly.
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George had decided during the writing of Empire that Luke and Leia were siblings. He wanted to have a twist in the movie and that was originally going to be revealed. That's why Yoda said, "No, there is another." when Obi Wan said that Luke was their only hope. George finally decided that Vader would be their father and to hold the sibling revelation until Jedi. I recommend reading the Annotated Screenplays. They're very revealing, especially when it comes to the prequels. George had the idea to make prequels back then, but they were nothing like what he eventually made because even the original trilogy didn't turn out the way he had originally intended. Hell, ROTJ was originally meant to be about an imperial resort. He even considered having Luke and Leia fight Vader together at the end of Jedi while the ghost of Yoda fought Palpatine. Lucas has always been a nutbag. Luckily for us, back in the 70s and 80s, someone was able to talk sense into him. These days, he's got free reign, directorial control, and a God complex.
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I'm not sure why everyone is getting on Ford's case about his behaviour in this interview. This is what he's always like in interviews. He really hates to be interviewed and is always grouchy and a bit uncomfortable. If anything he is much more enthusiastic about this movie even going so far as to proclaim how much he likes it.
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I pay 5 dollars on weeknights in Minneapolis. I don't know why Rosedale AMC is so cheap, but it's amazing.
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on leia's whale of a problem, to quote chris rock: "Get George Lucas IN on that shit!! CGI, muthafucka!! CGI!!" XD either way, still hoping for a GOOD story about the twins. but if Jena and Jaicen's story is going to be portrayed by sticks of woods akin to Hayden Christensen's wood puppet performance, then well hey, don't bother, georgie boy. i'll stick to the printed materials, thanks!
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I'm still wondering how R2D2 just smokes up and squeals then just keeps on operating the X-Wing when hit with a TIE Fighter blast, and yet goes all electrical poofy and useless when he gets hit by measly blaster fire? Y'know, the same blaster fire that kills every Empire flunky it hits anywhere but only gives a boo boo on the shoulder to Leia , or hits a robotic hand that still operates fine afterwards on Luke.
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Here, in my small oregon town, we have $6.50 (formerly $5.50) ticket prices, and I still complain.
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According to Gary Kurtz, one of Star Wars' producers, Luke and Leia weren't originally intended to be siblings.
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Hell, after Crystal Skull, I think Ford better start to rethink his Star Wars selling out stance. But unfortunately, they couldn't make the sequels now because Leia has turned into Jabba The Hut. Time has not been kind to the Princess. :-( But I'd still do her just to say I porked Princess Leia.......does that make me a bad guy?
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Jane: So what are you guys doing next? Mark: I'm in "The Big Red One" based on the work by Samuel Fuller...AND he's directing, it's gonna be HUGE!! Harrison: Huh? Oh, I'm doin' this movie based on old timey serials called "Raiders Of The Lost Ark". I dunno, maybe it'll do O.K.? And by the way, when you compare the grosses, Empire was by far the biggest flop of the whole series, and yet in my opinion was the best film. I guess that's why I'm a nerd.
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I dont know why everyone is bemoaning Mark Hamills lot in life. He has had what amounts to an awesome career, doing things he digs. Ford? Hes had to do a lot of real Hollywood garbage. Highly paid garbage, but still. Its also interesting to note Lucas' official magazine noted that after Jedi was done, they would take a break from Star Wras for a few years before getiing to the next stories that came after ROTJ. I still think they would have been made if Ford had not been such a whiny bitch about the whole thing.
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Yeah, I think the $5 tickets is what blew my mind.
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Heh, at the end she acts like they actually showed who Leia ends up with in Empire. Probably didn't even watch the movie.
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yeah I heard it too
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yeaaaah, it's kinda sad to see how mark hamill pans out today after seeing how hopeful he was in the past. just goes to show ya that some things in the future are better left unknown. ...i guess there's only one thing left to do -saber slashes time machine- and i should start taking my OWN advices from now on.
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How interesting would it have been if they knew Leia was Luke's sister, but didn't reveal that until the closing moments of Sith.
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http://www.madameandme.com/ mmmmmm.........where are my pills?!?!
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True, the only thing that was known was that C-3P0 and R2D2 would be in every movie. The first three were about Darth Vader, the last three was supposed to be about Han and Lea's son. Of course, Return was supposed to have Chewbacca's homeworld in it, but instead of Wookies waging war against the Empire, we got Ewoks.
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you guys are all sick......Ok Ok I used to fap to that Old lady puppet madame.
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Star Wars VII: Revenge of teh Fallen Emperor directed by Michael Gay, cue usual cast list of speculation through cryptic movie networking connections
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'Luke and Leia are sisters' I'm going to give you a minute to examine that sentence. If you do not see the significance of why I pointed this out, too bad, I am not going to explain it to you.
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Just glad it wasn't Dame Edna. =&
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Did anyone else hear Harrison Ford "shhhh" Mark Hamill when he said "Sister"? It's at about 1:50 in.
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"You there! Take this R2 unit and wipe it's memory. Also, remove anything that would make it cool or useful for, I don't know, say the next 20 or 30 years. The jets? Yeah, definitely. Goddamn we are good at our space-jobs!" Fin.
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Co Sign on Crusher.
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Some would say journalists are STILL clueless and awkward...but mostly clueless.
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"Lucky wookie" indeed!
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Either that or, like with R2-D2, Lucas didn't fully plot out who would know what when. Looking at all six movies now, R2 knew the ENTIRE story and could have told Luke at any time, "hey dummy, Vader's your dad and Leia's your sister!" Only C-3P0's mind was wiped. In fact, if you ever read the expanded universe books, once Revenge of the Sith was out they finally had R2 show Luke and Leia a picture of Padme, because the authors knew that R2 wouldn't have forgotten that information. It's also applicable to where Leia says in Jedi that she remembers her mother...Padme was alive for no more than a minute after Leia was born. Jedi makes it sound like Leia might have lived with Padme for a short time before being sent to the Organas.
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I never believed that 'Luke and Leia are sisters' was conceived until Lucas needed another twist to stick into the RotJ script. It doesn't make sense that he would have already had that idea, then have Yoda and Obi-Wan have a conversation in which Obi-Wan doesn't know who their 'other last hope' might be.
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By "over here", Halfazedninja of course means 30 years in the future.
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I used to fap to Judi Densch. Who I am kidding? I still fap to Dame Judi.
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IIRC, there was to be 3 prequels and 3 sequels the original trilogy came out, Lucas said that the trilogy was just the middle of a bigger story that would be told in its entirety later.
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Don't judge me, I started fapping in the 80's and between Jane Pauley, Jessica Rabbit and Dr. Beverly Crusher it's a wonder I passed the eighth grade.
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...... hehe?
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Wow, $5.00 for a movie ticket. Up to $11 -$14 over here. Also, Mark Hamill did know a lot about the prequels. So the idea for them was all the way back then and Lucas still crapped all over them lol
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"it's like your sister telling you what your getting for Christmas" saw what he did there xD
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"You really can't solve all of the...LOOSE ENDS, so to speak." Hamill almost slipped up there, didn't he? Not to mention, when asked which will win over Princess Leia, he's says to keep things a surprise, it'd be like "your SISTER telling you what you're getting for Christmas." And man...Ford is a seething pot of barely containable rage and contempt. Hamill is active as hell in every question, but Ford can barely deflect any answer before he rips the woman's face off.
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I used to fap to Jane Pauley quite frequently. Damn, but she had it going on.
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Love how Hamill slyly hinted at the secret of Princess Leia, "...it's like your sister telling you what you're getting for Christmas..."
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I remember those guys... What happened to that film?
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Interesting to see that journalists were completely clueless and awkward 30-plus years ago. Weird seeing Harrison actually trying so hard to be cordial and interested. Also interesting to see Hamill so spunky - with all his hopes and dreams of becoming a "character actor". He had no idea ....
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