• Krypton *was* taken away from Superman in every origin I remember. :P

• We'll soon reach the point where they'll be filming a reboot even as they're finishing up the original film.

• Losing his powers was a recurring theme throughout the movie, and it ended up being solved through The Power of Love. Not saying that it was a good idea, but it isn't how you made it out to be, either.

• You know what kills me in this discussion? That people are willing to accept that the guy can be bitten by a spider that gives him superhuman strength, speed, agility, and endurance... but where the webbing is generated is some kind of black mark on the Raimi movies. Seriously people? It's a fucking sci-fi universe to begin with; why are you nitpicking about one impossibility but accepting another? Get over it already...

• yeah the claws was stupid. The organic webshooter wasn't. But you know obsessive fans don't sleep at night if they do not hear the same goddamn punchline about "how expensive the webfluid is" or "damn I run of of webfluid". Considering that withtou web spidey powers get less and less spiderlike. The firs tmovie make it more sneses, without neither "danger" sense(was a motion detection actually), nor "electro-moleculare adhesion on whole body level" (in the movie he does have small spikes, like spiders on tip of hands and feet). Really Seem that any spider like guy in comic book just decided to go for the most rndom name ever, given their power do not reflect all that much into spiders Is something that annoy me. Initially i did not minded much, but now that i'm older and read more, is weird how little Spider there is in canonical Spiderman.

• Yes I played the hell out of that game. Beat it, too, even though Kingpin was a bitch to fight.

• You know, thinking about it, you could really easily do a compromise between the two...he gets the organic shooters from the mutation, but they're limited--in capability, or just in the amount of webbing he can produce. So he builds the mechanical ones to AUGMENT the biologicals, using the organic webbing as a basis for the web fluid. Like as a germ culture, or as an ingredient combined with other chemicals. This also explains why he can't market the stuff, as the vital ingredient can only be produced by his own mutated body. (Maybe as a joke, have a confidant note that you might be able to mass produce it by splicing some of Peter's mutated genes into animals you could harvest the stuff from, but Peter cracks that sounds too much like a clone army for his comfort...)

• Also speaking of inorganic web shooters being silly, remember that one scene that was never mentioned or followed up in Spider-man 2 when Spidey somehow couldn't shoot webs causing him to take an elevator ride with Hal Sparks? Yeah at least with mechanic shooters, Peter could have just forgotten to load a cartridge or something before he left.

• THIS. So Hard. but hey if your going with webbed armpits you might as well get Stan Lee to write the dialogue and all the exposition captions complete with all the "True Believers" you could ever want (they could be underneath the screen). Ultimates be damned (And I actually preferred Ultimate Peter to 616 Peter....although that could be because Ultimate Pete was an honest to goodness nerd)

• Being bitten by the spider didn't give him that knowledge (despite the whole "spider totem" bullshit). He's a kick-ass scientist, and it was ALL HIM, not the spider-bite. He just used that as a jumping-off point for the idea. - Web shooters are vital to his character. Without them, he's just another dude with powers. With them, he's a combination of a dude with powers, and a nerd with a big brain. His intelligence was ALWAYS the focus of his character, and taking away web shooters from Spider-Man is like taking Krypton away from Superman.

• Without getting all long-winded, the mechanical web-shooters were thematically necessary. All of Spidey's villains are super-scientists or the result of super-science. Spidey was always supposed to be the "nerd superhero", and the web shooters were the single most important manifestation of his science nerd background, which served to stand as the "good" opposite to Goblin's glider/bombs/gloves, Ock's tentacles, Vulture's harness/wings, Scorpion's suit, Rhino's suit, Mysterio's gadgets, and so on. - If you take away mechanical web shooters, Spidey's just another altered human or mutant. He needs to have some of his powers grounded in science, not in the supernatural ("spider totem") or mutations (natural web shooters). He should be inventing web shooters, web fluid, spider-tracers, his self-shooting camera, and the rest of his utility belt, because it makes him the science-nerd good guy to his rogues' gallery's "science gone bad".

• Anyone remember the Sega Genesis game where you had to earn money by taking photos so you could buy more web fluid? And the photo worth the most were of enemies, who'd probably stomp you why you tried taking their photo.

• Butt....spiders shoot webs from what we might consider a butt. Hence the Venture Bros. parody of Spider-Man shot them just above his butt (spinnerets are on more of the underside on spiders, but that would be getting x-rated).

• I said the same thing when the photo was released and pointed out the similarities here and on my blog. Quick similarities; no belt spider legs on the logo go down to waist different glove design web shooters on the outside I'm not saying they are doing the Clone Saga, but I am say that whoever designed this costume was definitely looking at the Ben Reilly costume at the time.

• No, he had that magnetic grappling gun, not the crazy T shaped clamp thing that was so synonymous with B:TAS.

• There's an old saying; "audiences will accept the impossible, but not the improbable." I think that's how I always felt about organic vs. artificial web shooters. They were both pretty impossible, objectively, but adding the web shooters in <i>addition</i> to everything else, especially when you have the character starting as a young teen, just felt...<i>unlikely</i>. 'Started bringing up a lot of inconvenient questions...as nerds are want to do on any subject, admittedly. A far more snarky part of me wants to ask, though, if they're so intent on throwing out all the "modern" additions to Spider-Man, why they didn't just set the damn movie in 1962. Then they could use all the old Soviet super villains again, too.

• My advice to everyone here: Slow down on the whole jumping to conclusions thing until we have a lot more detail. I wasn't too thrilled with the idea of a Star Trek reboot. It's not that I thought the original(s) were perfect, but that there was no way a big studio was likely to pull it off in a compelling way that didn't alienate the fan base. And I'm delighted to say I was dead wrong. My guess, based on the same information everyone else here has (which is to say not much), is that they'll get a lot of things right, make a few relatively minor errors like walking right past a perfect opportunity to do something cool, but overall it will work for most people. Example of something they could miss: Someone mentioned Parker coming up a special mix for his web shooter or it malfunctioning at a really bad time. There's a ton of potential there, if they're creative enough to pick a good option and use it well.

• So fucking hot...

• Seriously, yeah. The bit with Bernard was just infuriating. I was basically expecting Harry to turn into Adam Sandler from the Wedding Singer at that point. "Once again, things that could've been brought to my attention YESTERDAY!"

• I never liked the web cartridges personally. Especially if a game involved them and limited my dicking around.

• "I still want to see a live action Batman picture with that ridiculous Deus Ex Machina T shaped grapnel from the Animated series." Wasn't that used in the Burton Batman movies?

• Mechanical web shooters are dumb. Being bitten by a radioactive spider shouldn't give you the knowledge of how to mix everyday chemicals intostronger than steel web fluid because spiders don't know the chemical formulas for their webbing. Plus, he'd need much larger apparati to actually propel the fluid sufficiently and 100 gallon cartridges of fluid to give him enough fluid so he doesn't turn into street pizza on the first try. Organic web shooters still have logistical problems, but I can suspend my disbelief more on them.

• I do believe we have a winner. Can't wait for the Spidey flamethrower. XD

• That's the POINT! You're really idiotic right here, good fellow. I'm all for the return of the webshooters, and it's a very easy reason as to why. Peter Parker is supposed to be a genius. Reed Richards frequently says that if Pete would apply himself, Pete could smoke him in the scientific field. Peter Parker is supposed to have a TON of options, and they're squashed by being Spider-Man! In a few series, he becomes a high school chemistry teacher, but he usually stays a reporter because the money is good and he can do it while in college AND while fighting crime. He doesn't have the time to fight crime, go to class, date MJ, AND earn cash as a lab assistant, at least not enough to cover tuition and Aunt May. That's his great dilemma! Webshooters put extra stress on Parker, but show off his genius, which is his real weapon! In all the best fights, it's Parker's brain that wins the day, not his powers. Who found out that noise could knock off the symbiote? Who helped revert the lizard into his human state of Doc Conners? Who overheated the Rhino in his non-breathing suit? Who managed structural integrity to beat the shocker, saw through mysterio's tech illusions, AND found out how to cryo freeze the symbiote? Peter's brain should be on display, and it NEVER was in the other movies, except a bit with Doc Ock in 2, which is why it was the best of the movies. If his powers were what made him cool, peter wouldn't be important and ANYONE could do what he does. He's a genius and he should remain as such. Hooray for the return of the webshooters, hooray for the return of science, hooray for the return of INTELLIGENCE! Let our nerd be COOL!

• I would rather Rob had used a picture of Emma Stone getting covered in web fluid....

• The organic shooters make more sense for the character simply because, apart from giving Spiderman another power, they've only been mentioned in a Spidey storyline about twice in his entire history. IF Peter Parker was capable of that level of chemistry AND building an insanely complex, ultra-miniaturized pair of shooters like those on his own, he certainly wouldn't be a penniless loser taking freelance photos for a living.

• +1 I do hated the organic ones. I always thought it was clever to make him have the inorganic since a real spider shoots web like.. from his mouth or whatever

• Darth is right. Biowebs lose the intelligence of Parker & the drama when he runs out. It was every bit a terrible idea as midichlorians. Though I'd still like to see a blood transfusion Jedi.

• The webshooters help show what a smart guy Pete is. As far as why he did not become rich off of them, the formula was not stable, and disolved too fast to be of any use. Plus exposing his identiy.

• ...oh good...they'll probably re-tell his origins for the 0.01% who don't know how he got his powers... ...again.

• I hate his gloves.

• Clone costume.

• I didn't like the Rami movies. Hated the first Spider-Man movie from the midnight showing and so did a few other friends. It was like being a fan of chocolate and hating chocolate ice cream. When it became insanely popular, you feel embarrassed to tell people who know you're a fan that you think it sucks. Looking forward crossing my fingers.

• Dissolves after an hour, so no trail. The old joke used to be that if Peter had any business sense, he could've made more money as the guy who invented a better post-it note.

• Nobody has commented yet on his costume. That is nearly his suit but it's not quite right.

• A question from someone who is clueless about comics: What happens to all that Web he leaves around the city after fighting or just swinging around? Could someone not simply find out who he is by following the trail back to his home?

• ...no, the Ultimate comics had artificial webshooters too. In fact, almost every Spider-Man comic book does.

• But it's weird. Isn't this more based on Ultimate? And doesn't he there have no Webshooters? Either way, we can finally rest a little easier now that we know a small inconsequential element of the books is there.

• Ditto. I'm in the same camp as Rob, where "web shooters are better because they're more realistic" is not an accurate statement, IMO. Equally outlandish, but I did prefer organic at the time of the 1st release, also mostly because the "mech vs mutation" argument was akin to the "TRUK NOT MUNKY" 'debate' oh so many years prior.

• This is the real reason for the change: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvmZ9SPcTzU

• I must be the only one who didn't mind that bit of Spider-Man 3. It was dumb, but it obviously KNEW it was dumb. Nobody complained about the goofy Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head montage in the second film, and that was basically the same kind of thing; a fun few minutes of film showing us how Peter's changing, set to music. I really didn't care about it nearly as much as I cared about the awful payoff with Bernard the butler.

• The deal with the webshooters is that it gives you more story possibilities - Pete can run out, can have them damaged, can whip up new formulae for specific bad guys, etc. It makes him into more of a science geek hero, which is what he's supposed to be. Sure, stuff like that is more beneficial in a serialised comic than a once-every-two-years movie series, but it still gives a writer more material to play with when it comes to enhancing the drama. The original reasoning behind the organic webshooters was that (a) audiences wouldn't relate to someone smart enough to make them from scratch (bullshit) and (b) the organic webshooters were some sort of complicated masturbation analogy that James Cameron cooked up back in the day.

• You can see the shooters on his wrist. Unless he just likes to stylize with big buttons.

• Organic...inorganic...what does it matter? This movie is gonna be seriously weird regardless. Im still adjusting to a different actor and costume.

• It doesn't matter if it makes more sense, the self-made webshooters are a part of Peter's character and help to make him more interesting. The organic ones don't bring any development to the character at all.

• Webshooters and yet no web arm-pits? How is that fair?

• Shudder...emo dance sequence...blech..I wanted to punch Sam Raimi in the nuts for that one.

• as long as it isn't a massive CGI mess with eight villains and an emo dance sequence, I'll be happy. Oh and also, as long as the main villain isn't a power rangers-esque Green Goblin a la Spiderman 1. sorry Raimi, but you should just stick to storytelling.

• The organic web shooters never bothered me. You know what else never bothered me, his spider claws from "The Other". Come on Sony, give us some spider claws. Then he will be more like Wolverine. The Wolverine movie made money.

• I don't think it's done solely to differentiate it from the Raimi films. 1.) Many fans were vocal about the lack of web shooters when the first film came out. And 2.) Pete's parents are in this film. Pete's father created the formula for the adhesive that Pete uses for his webbing in the ULTIMATE comics.

• having the original web shooters in the film proves Sony was serious of rebooting the franchise. for the organic ones were kind of creepy.

• You know, I was a big defender of the organic shooters in the first series, mostly because their opponents were so obnoxiously vocal. However I was a little happy to read that the classic web shooters were going to be in this film, if for no other reason in the world than to see one of the cooler gizmos in comicdom show up in a movie. I still want to see a live action Batman picture with that ridiculous Deus Ex Machina T shaped grapnel from the Animated series.

• I'm telling you, this is just the start of the Clone Saga in film form.

• Thank you Ms. Stone. You truly are a friend of the nerds.

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