I couldn't agree more that this is going to bite them in the Ass. I have been a huge fan of DC for decades, and I wasn't reading their books because I loved Superman. I liked all the weird, Beast Boy your girlfriend wants you dead, crap. They tried to cover how much of a screw job this was at first to try to trick the old fans into reading this garbage, but Dan couldn't keep his mouth shut with the "they never existed" shit. It makes me sick. I can not continue to buy DC comics under these circumstances.
On Wednesday, August 31st, DC Comics will launch a historic renumbering of the entire DC Universe line of comic books with 52 first issues, including the release of JUSTICE LEAGUE by NEW YORK TIMES bestselling writer and DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns and bestselling artist and DC Comics Co-Publisher Jim Lee. The publication of JUSTICE LEAGUE issue 1 will launch day-and-date digital publishing for all these ongoing titles, making DC Comics the first of the two major American publishers to release all of its superhero comic book titles digitally the same day as in print.Well, shit.
DC Comics will only publish two comic books on August 31st: the final issue of this summer's comic book mini-series FLASHPOINT and the first issue of JUSTICE LEAGUE by Johns and Lee, two of the most distinguished and popular contemporary comic book creators, who will be collaborating for the first time. Together they will offer a contemporary take on the origin of the comic book industry's premier superhero team.
Likewise, resetting the whole damn DC universe is likewise a smart, bold move -- we all know the biggest problem with modern American comics is that there's too much back story, that they're too daunting for new readers to get into -- which is why Marvel's Ultimate line worked so well (until it collapsed under the wait of its own history and nonsense).
However, I doubt I'm going to be alone when I say this is a tremendously stupid move as well. Not the digital part -- I still say that's brilliant -- but resetting the entire DC universe actually fucks every hardcore DC fan in the ass, and at the moment those are the only people reading DC comics. It's the same with Marvel, of course. The whole modern comics industry survives because of the people who have been reading each series for a decade-plus -- and DC has just cast them off. Not in a cool Crisis on Infinite Earths way, but in a "we want younger readers and only younger readers way."
And that's what's insane. DC is seemingly making no attempt to transition current readers into the new regime. It would be pretty easy -- I mean, DC's not shy about mega-crossover events or rebooting it's own damn universe -- but it seems like it's just starting the fuck over. Maybe it would be less insane if I thought they had any plans whatsoever to actually get those new readers in place of the old ones, but I don't think they do. Are these comics actually going to get in grocery stores? Will they be advertised on Cartoon Network? Will kids even know that they can pick up a Superman comic now and know what the fuck is going? Will they know where or how to get a comic if they don't have an iPad? I doubt DC has figured any of that out, and thus DC is mainly just fucking itself in its ass. And the fact that this is being announced in June and begins in August just confirms that for me.
There are obviously some major questions that need to be answered -- what the fuck happens to all the DC continuity now? Does it count? And what will Marvel do in response? -- but right now I think that DC is doing something extremely smart in an extremely stupid way. If this were done right, it would be announced now and happen next year. DC would advertise the shit out of this new beginning to every kid with a computer so that the minute these new #1s came out, kids all over America would know when and where to get them. And there'd be a Crisis-type event that justifies -- or at least explains -- the total reset to help the DC faithful transition to the new order.
It doesn't appear they've done any of that, and I am pretty sure it is going to bite them on the ass. Hard.
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I am sticking with my manga and other assorted Asian comics, at least I know what I'm getting into. And if the said manga were to stop its because the author died.
I'll warn you now that you're going to hate me, but here goes:
I like this. As someone who has only ever read The Killing Joke and Watchmen I wanted to get into reading Batman comics but didn't thanks to being unable to suspend my disbelief enough to do so - I know about several 'deaths' of major characters that have always been made pointless by them somehow still being alive or a legacy character (thanks TVTropes!) which never seemed right to me. I don't know how well comics are being written at present, probably awfully given previous TR news, but if it's handled well then they'll have another reader, me.
fuck DC. PERIOD. this is not only a lame idea, it totally disregards EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of what makes comics IMPORTANT. they were thrown out by parents and children alike, and almost didn't survive if not for a small group of people to keep golden age books stored away. why? they knew it was fucking special, even if no one appreciated it at the time.
don't get me wrong. digital is important, and only just as important as paper. if they feel that ditching a tradition for something more modern, then they don't fucking know what field they are in. First off, comicbooks have always been a very neglected art form and has only benefited future readers because of the persistence of memory by previous fans that kept original copies when the companies lost the original artwork/records etc. special books like the horror genre of the 50's (EC and such) have almost been completely forgotten. what about western books? no one fucking cares any more and it is a shame because it was the most American form of comics. too bad for them.
lastly, abandoning old fans for new ones has never worked. not in music, not in literature, and certainly not in comicbooks. If DC needs to make new fans, then they should WRITE quality stories and tweak advertising. HELL, THEY FUCKING ADVERTISE THEMSELVES IF THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH. If anything, Comic Stores should be getting support by the companies themselves, especially giant DICKHEADS like DC. THEY HAVE BATMAN SUPERMAN GREENLATERN FLASH WONDERWOMAN MARTIAN MANHUNTER PLASTICMAN HAWKMAN SPECTRE SHAZAM and so many more----DO NOT FUCKING TELL ME THEY CAN STOP ANY THREAT TO SPACE AND TIME AND SO ON BUT THEY JUST CAN'T SAVE COMIC STORES.
lastly, when an industry flags, the companies dig deep. God forbid they try ALL formats to get the books out there selling. if continuity is too hard a sell to new fans, THEN JUST MAKE NEW STORIES OUT OF CONTINUITY.. WHO CARES JUST TELL A GOOD FUCKING STORY WITH NO LIMITS TO THE TALENT. SELL, SELL, SELL. in all formats. period. digital might be the future, but people still buy vinyl, people still by SUVs and people still buy regular coke and pepsi instead of diet coke, new coke, diet pepsi, caffeine free diet coke,caffeine free diet pepsi, coke zero, pepsi, pepsi with lemon, pepsi max and CRYSTAL PEPSI. which by the way, DC as a whole is making steps to becoming CRYSTAL PEPSI. just tell a good story in OR out of continuity. THE FUCKING ART WILL SALE IT ANYWAY.
stop making vague threats, batman won't come and save your ass when you spit in the face of all your fans. don't think for a minute people will read whatever shit you shovel them in any form. just remember: some people like to eat an apple instead of looking at a picture of it, and some people want to read a book instead of looking at pictures on a computer of what they USED to look like. Some people what their characters to look new, and some want them to be good.
Pardon me if someone already said this, but, I don't think the, "Reboot," will be as rebooty as folks think.Looking at some of the comic descriptions at the DC blog, it doesn't feel like the stories are all starting over, just the numbers on the books. Which to me, just says lame-o marketing gimmick, instead of a mass continuity house cleaning.I hope I'm not wrong.
And to add to this, I just read Generation Lost 24 and it leads directly in to Justice League International 1. No rebooting here.
Why can't they just do this as an ultimates style universe, instead of ruining everything?
It occurs to me now that there would be no need for reboots if comic book writers knew how to make solid, self-contained stories.
I personally like the sound of this, I'm 22 and have been keen to get into comic books for about 4 or 5 years now but have never known where to start other then trying to get a hold of super old and super expensive first copies and going from there. A couple of friends I asked advice from started talking about crises, alternate earths, infinite earths and so on.
I think there is more then just the kids of today market, there's also the people who haven't been reading comics because they didn't know where to start and this is as good a starting point as I think we're ever going to get.
Crisis was great; but then DC did several other reboots (see Legion of Superheroes and The New, New Teen/Not Teen Titans. I eventually gave up.
you know you're on the way out, it's just a matter of time, you thought you would rule the world forever, long live the king...... that sums this up at the rate comics are going
Which long standing characters are the going to make non-white and/or gay and/or female?
Also, what good are e-comics when I run out of toilet paper? I suppose I could print out some pictures of Jim Lee's face to use but that just isn't the same.
And there was epic nerd rage, such as had not been seen in ages. ... My rage is included.
It's a dumb move. I also think it's the height of laziness for a writer to complain that backstory is the problem in not being able to tell new and exciting stories. Grant Morrison (and I'm not a gigantic sucking Morrison fanboy) was able to tell a new story in the context of All Star Superman, and it was a well-liked, well-recieved series. Jim Lee on the other hand did the dismal (is it even finished yet after having 6+ month delays?) All Star Batman, which was just awful. It's a damn good thing people aren't trusting Jim Lee to do this massive reboot of the entire company... oh... wait...
Seriously; good writers can tell good stories without having to greenfield years of continuity. It's such a cop out to blame a big history on the inability of a writer to tell a good story. Marvel's Ultimate Universe didn't crumble because it had a convoluted history... it crumbled because some shitty writers told some shitty stories. Loeb's Ultimates title had a huge total of 25 issues of continuity to deal with. He was able to douche it up in 24 pages. Having the history scrubbed wouldn't have helped.
They need to set up the digital app like say, Steam for comics where you can redownload as many times as you want but don't have to store the data on your computer.
Everything you've said makes sense. I'm not sure they're doing this as well as they could (with the advertising, etc). But we all know that as long as paper versions still exist all these old comics readers will still be there. The vast majority of them will still read the new comics. We'll just have to listen to them complain about it. The success rides on how many new readers to jump onboard.
And so it is. All this, "What if my harddrive crashes!" freaking out is pointless.
I'm a DC fan. Not a hardcore one I just enjoy a lot of the stories and have a massive respect for its history, something like this would be understandable if they did it every 10 years. Erasing over 70 years of story telling is absurd and insulting to creators and readers alike. If they were smart they could have given something like All-Star or Ultimate Marvel ago again, drawing in newer readers while still letting older readers enjoy their favorite characters and stories. Besides in this day and age you can spend five minuets on wikipedia and read a quick synopsis of the characters vast history, which is how ended up getting into actually buying comics regularly. I also totally agree with Brian Bendis on the matter of their railing of comic shops.
I don't expect the reboot of the DC Universe to really stick, I don't think the fans would stand for it; no matter how many time DC has revised its continuity. But going digital-only is gonna collectively sodomize comic retailers across the country. The comics industry has been on life support for some time now, now it seems that DC has finally pulled the plug.
They aren't going digital only. They are still publishing paper comics. If you prefer that, go to your LCS and you can help prop up a dying industry for a while.
I take comfort in knowing that the best comic book stories have already been written and are in back-issues that you can buy (usually) cheaply.
Although I stopped reading comics years ago, when I do buy any it's old stuff.
Anyone remember Marvel's "Epic Comics" line? Good stuff there.
I kind of feel like the odd man out here....
I have been reading comics since the Death of Superman. I stopped around 2003 when I lost my job. I started thinking about picking it up a few months later once I became gainfully employed, but the thought of storing and bagging the comics, for some reason, seemed so daunting I couldn't bring myself to continue. So I stopped.
Jump to last year, the iPad took off and Comixology came out with their DC app (always been a huge DC fan, never have been able to get into Marvel). I started picking up comics again via my iPad. I LOOOOVED it!! It solves several problems I had. The first and most important was my ability to store the comics. The second is I could increase the size of a panel and study the art detail better. Third, I can reread any comic after an arc is finished and just jump one comic to the next.
I do feel there are a few downsides to this: first is I'm dependent on Comixology to honor their redownloading system in the future. Same problem as any other download service. Second problem is I think the publishers haven't learned to price these properly. I think $1.99-$2.99 for a 10 year old digital comic is too much.
Just my 2 cents, but an opposing viewpoint I thought I would politely share as a longtime reader of TR :)
Here's where both DC and Marvel fail. They don't do anything to ride off the coat tails of their movies, DVDs and TV shows. Millions of ads are promoting the characters right now but where is the quick shout out to say that further adventures of, say, Thor or Green Lantern, are just a couple clicks away? DC is taking this huge gamble but the only people who will ever know it's even happening are the only people in the universe who will be angry about it! That's why it will fail just like all their previous reboots. They should put out digital-only comics that are set in their movie universes, not just for DC and Marvel characters but other Warner, Disney and Pixar properties, and they should cross-promote them. A small number of very well done comics to bring in the mass audience. That Young Justice happy meal at McDonalds should come with a link to where you can get a free digital Young Justice comic, as should the Young Justice TV show, and the Young Justice action figures. Really, this isn't hard! Puts on corporate weasel tie. Exploit corporate synergies, people! Takes off corporate weasel tie, feels shame.
"They should put out digital-only comics that are set in their movie universes, not just for DC and Marvel characters but other Warner, Disney and Pixar properties, and they should cross-promote them."
This seems like a very smart idea! I dig the Happy Meal idea as well. It seems obvious and sensible, which is why we'll never see it happen :\
I dunno. I'm kinda excited to pick up Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Flash, Nightwing (maybe?) and all that stuff #1. On the other hand it's pretty hard to just "Take everything you've ever known about your favorite DC heroes. Now go to hell, drop it off, and then come back."
Green Lantern is going to remain largely untouched. This has been done before after Crisis on IE when they rebooted Superman's continuity, we did it then and we'll do it again now.
To quote Rob, "Comic stores are doomed, and have been for a long time ."
After I read this, I thought about a Chinese custom in which descendants burn papercraft items like paper houses/(fake) money/clothing for their ancestors, so they'll be provided for in the afterlife. It's admittedly bad for the environment, but nonetheless, it commemorates the dead.
Nowadays, there are websites set up that allow a person to "send" virtual offerings and messages to the deceased relatives, as well as burn virtual incense. Again, safer for the environment, but. .
My point is, it's not bad that there's a shift to online alternatives, but it still kinda sucks seeing tradition being pissed on. I've never been inside a comic book store before. I guess I should visit one pretty soon, while they're still around.
Wow. Rob said it surely better than I have. I've been letting out spurts of anger and dumbfoundment at how poorly done this whole thing is. And dumbfoundment isn't even a word.
DC sure just slapped everyone in the face who supported them for the last year, two years, five years, hell, ten to thirty years if some of these changes are to be believed. Not even a back up or side series to continue all this shit we've been buying all this time? Not gonna even throw us a bone? Never mind give us a fucking warning more than three fucking months which is the normal solicit time. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU SURPRISE PEOPLE WITH!
For both current fans and new fans you want more than THREE FUCKING MONTHS to announced such a launch. Build up news for the mainstream and casual fans to let them know of the jumping on point. And if you're going to cut life support on the universe you've built over the past thirty plus years and up to this very month, a little more notice would have been nice for us people supporting you all this time too.
Yup. Such a reboot isn't inherently a bad. It's just horribly done.
Bill Cosby said it best. Steak on a trash lid.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
YEAAAAAAH... you might want to put your head to the ground, buddy. People that read up and listen to things hear a herd of buffalo stampeding this way.
Some of the 52 titles I want to see are Flash, Batwoman, JLI (as teased at the end of Generation Lost), Shazam (full reboot please and don't make it 6 separate people either). Those would be must buys for me.
I agree with this article completely.
The thing I'm not entirely sold on is the digital stuff. Mainly because I don't have something to actually read it on. I don't have an iPad or a Kindle or anything like that. Maybe once I get one I'd be more on board with this.
I have an iPad and it's awesome for reading comics. You've got to have a tablet for digital comics, reading on the iPod touch is just not that great with all the scrolling or panel by panel navigation, although Comixology does a great job with panel-by-panel presentation.
I used to read DC a lot but gave up because it got too convoluted and expensive to keep up. Not having to dedicate limited shelf space to more single issues my cats are just going to try to sharpen their claws in and kids will dump juice and cookie crumbs on is a bonus. I do think this is a jerk move for those who are still reading, but on the flip side, the only DC anything I've invested money in or enjoyed at all in the last 5-10 years was the Bruce Timm cartoons, and so I'm thinking this is a prime opportunity for me to get back into it. I def. like the idea of a new, simpler continuity, but hopefully if they bow to the backlash it'll be in the form of deciding to keep a few of the existing, most popular titles going, and keeping the two "universes" separate. Now they've pissed off their still-loyal fanbase, I'm really hoping they don't immediately fuck it up by backpedalling and retconning some of the new stories to exactly the stuff they're supposedly replacing. That would be like a middle finger growing from the second knuckle of another middle finger.
So I'm the guy who you would call new to comics I've only started reading American comics, transitioning from manga, but I've only read collections or the graphic novels. Otherwise, I've kept up with what's going on in some titles on Wikipedia, and it's all that stuff I actually want to read. I would like to know how a world with a Batman Inc. would operate, or how the various lantern corps get along when something is threatening the universe. And while they be keeping the Lanterns as I think someone here said, don't take my word, there's no way they'll be keeping Batman Inc. So in summary, from my perspective, this is not a bad move (not saying it's ultimately a good move either we'll have to see about that) but a dick move to be sure. Plus I bet it's going to be a result of Flash having to go back in the past to fix all the stuff I read has already happened in Flashpoint, the explanation being things happen differently because of minute changes that could not be fixed.
I heard rumors of this a month ago on John Byrnes forum and none of my nerd friends would believe me. HAHA! I wasn't imagining things!
Still, WHOSE RESPONSIBLE THIS!
This all seems like SUCH a bad idea to me. Why give your ENTIRE current readership an obvious "jumping off" point? I can honestly say that as a lifelong DC collector, if these changes go beyond the trivial, and I don't hear SPECTACULARLY good reviews, I'm probably just going to call it quits. And if the changes DON'T go beyond the trivial, why the hell is DC bothering? Also, renumbering Action Comics and Detective Comics is so stupid it borders on the criminal. Best-case scenario? This all turns out to be the launching of a new parallel Earth's continuity, and eventually the DCU that I've collected since 1985 will return to run concurrently with this new universe. Given how much DC has put into returning so many old characters to their "classic" states and building from there (GL, Flash, Aquaman) and how much success they've had letting Grant Morrison experiment with the Batman line, I really don't see how this won't end up being one of two things: A pointless throwing-away of what's currently working in the DC line, or a pointless exercise in tweaking minutia in a vain hope of attracting the non-comics-reading public.Also, no matter how "cool" a re-design DC gives Superman, he will NEVER be the guy in that art released for the new Justice League comic. He's been in the public mind for too long. He's a guy with red shorts over his tights. His logo is NOT "cool" and angular. That new version of the S-shield is not what is worn on t-shirts and even tattoos around the world, and never will be. I appreciate the value of continuity-free works on iconic characters, hence the brilliance that was All-Star Superman. But when you supplant what's already working with token youthening, costume tweaks, and ethnic tokenism, I can't see how it will survive. Every DC staffer, and every future staffer for the next 15 years, will come from a generation that was raised on the old continuity. Just like after CoiE, you're going to see the re-emergence of old-continuity characters and concepts as "ratings stunts" in the development of the nu-continuity, which begs the question of "why bother". This is why I would support the idea if it was basically an editorial decicion to focus on a new Earth out of the 52, while leaving the old one intact for crossover's like in the old days. That way you could shift your publising focus, but still retain the option to continue with the bigger successes of the previous continuity, maybe as a series of mini-series or annuals. Hell, DC is setting up a situation where, if anyone DOES get interested in their characters, they will have NO material in their collected editions that represent the current continuity! Why would any mythical new reader ever buy a DC trade paperback now? I don't know... maybe I'm too pessimistic, but I see "big failure" in the cards. After all, the implied premise that what you read this month will "matter" next month is part of the appeal of serialized comics. Taking that away from all of your current audience in hopes of landing a new one seems misguided at best...
Alright, odds on Marvel doing exactly the same if DC makes a profit on this scheme? Any takers?
I admit I'm more of a Marvel Zombie than a DC fan, but I have enjoyed DC stories such as Gail Simone's Wonder Woman, and I hope Ms. Simone keeps writing throughout this change.
The people I feel the worst for right now are the readers who are just getting into these universes and becoming familiar with established characters and stories, only to have the rug pulled out from under them. Why are the current story lines suddenly no longer important? Why bother even having them to begin with if everything just gets erased and re-done?
A phenomenon similar to this one is what drove me away from all comics back in the 90's. I was happily following Excalibur and Generation X and suddenly all the stories stopped RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ACTION and a "New Dark & Gritty Marvel Universe" (tm) started. Goddamn those shitty-ass mystical crystals, I wanted to read Generation X, not Generation "NeXt" and Excalibur, not "Excalibre." I stopped reading comics for 18 years after Marvel pulled that crap.
Does DC know that most young folks don't read comics? They read manga, watch anime and play video games. Teenagers will not even notice this or care, even if their iPhones tell them to buy digital comics. The movies are there for them already.
You hit it on the head, as far as I'm concerned:
"...most young folks don't read comics?"
I used to frequent multiple comic shops in my town, and I hardly ever saw anyone who wasn't at least in their early 20's there. I chalk this up to a couple different factors. As you said, teenagers these days aren't into comic books, because you can't hook a controller to a comic book. Another is that frankly, comic books these days are STUPID expensive. I had a pull-list of about thirty different titles (if you were a Superman or Batman fan, this is basically mandatory), and was spending at least two hundred dollars or more a month on comics. After watching content of comics dwindle as the prices climbed over the course of the years, in 2005 or so, I was done. I have gone back and checked places like Ebay, and have seen comics not appreciate whatsoever in value from the eighties or nineties, and understand that the golden age of "Buy a comic, it'll be worth more than face value in ten or twenty years!" is over. If you are buying comics now that you expect to sell for a profit in twenty years, I feel sorry for you. You aren't going to be making the return on investment you think you are.
And if you aren't collecting comics for investment value, the smarter thing then is to simply buy the TPB of a collected story-arc.
YMMV, of course.
you know, as a guy who has been a comic book collector for the entirety of his adult life(I'm creeping up on 40), and a DC reader in particular..I don't see this whole thing as a "fuck you" to fans. Yes, maybe some series like Batman, Inc will get slightly short shrift, having to wrap stuff up early. But do you REALLY think anyone is going to be all that upset about having a rejuvenated line? Moreover, is anyone going to stop reading, say, Green Lantern because of a new #1? We comic book geeks are nothing if not a masochistic lot, and I don't see anyone quitting Batman as a character due to a reboot.
Still won't get to me. DC would have to compete for my money with "Ctrl+Alt+Del", "8-Bit Theater", "VG Cats", "Precocious", "Sinfest", and just about a dozen other awesome web-comics that ask me for precisely zero dollars and never got into a Continuity Snarl/Mess/Bullshit from strip to strip, thank you very much.
" Together they will offer a contemporary take on the origin of the comic book industry's premier superhero team. "
I have to say it. Rob, you have a TR contest ready to roll with that statement.
I know I'm not alone, and I know i'm not the first person to say this (hell Rob himself it right here), but this is going to be a massive failure. Why you ask? I'm glad you did, because now it gives me a chance to tell you.
For starters, as has been mentioned, price is a big issue. The giant elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about, because well, how the hell are you going to get rid of a giant elephant? When I started reading comics, they were a dollar twenty five. I was ten, and they were a little more expensive than a candy bar. So it was more of an investment, but I could re-read the comic book, but couldn't re-eat the candy bar. So it all kind of ended up equalling out. Then they up to 1.50, well inflation. Then 1.75, and now, I think they're what? Like 6 dollars or something? They're way too expensive for these "younger" readers to afford.
Second, digital distribution. Digital distribution through itunes means that the kids have to have a credit card tied to their account, unless parents have started giving out allowances in itunes gift cards, then there's not way for these "younger" readers to access these digital comics. And even if kids have iPads today, why would they spend their money on comic, which will always stay the same, when they can buy a video games for the same price and the video game will constantly change and give them new entertainment value.
Thirdly, these are all starting out an #1, right? Well, what happens in October? They all come out #2, And then #3. And you end up with the exact same problem the Ultimates line has. And, we all know that since this is modern comics we're talking about, the first issue will end on a cliffhanger. So, what happens a year from now when someone picks up an issue? Unless DC is radically changing the way they tell stories, and not merely changing the numbering then they'll find themselves right back where they start.
And Jim Lee? Are you serious? Unless they started this project 7 or 8 years ago, it's a joke. Justice League #1 will come out in August of 2011, and issue #2 will come out in summer or fall 2012. And issue #3 will come out in 2014 if it ever comes out at all. Remember Wildcats by Grant Morrison and Jim Lee? I think that had one issue, and never had another. Go fuck yourself Jim Lee. You'e not a comic artist, you're an administrator. Just embrace, and give up all this bullshit about being an artist anymore.
And finally, we all know about this because we're geek and we either used to read DC Comics or are currently reading them. How the hell are normal people going to find out about this? Unless DC has a major, major publicity campaign in the works (considering how incompetent they've been in this regard, I highly doubt it), how are people going to know about this jumping on point?
I predict this is going to horrible blow-up in DC's faces, just like the DC Explosion in the late 70's.
So. Anyone else think "Ah HA! So THAT'S how Bruce Wayne is getting out of all the batman-related lawsuits!"
Sweet, perfect excuse to restart Hitman!. Also if they only go through the apple store to sell, then they can go get fucked for all i care.


