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I kid, I kid -- I'm all for more diversity in comics, and since regular Marvel U. Peter Parker's white ass isn't going anywhere, this is a nice move by Marvel. Here's hoping they have some good stories to tell with ol' Miles, and he doesn't get replaced with am Ultimate Peter Parker clone at some point in 2012. Thanks to Devin B. for the tip.
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Well I think I should be the next spider-man because I am Half black and Half hispanic (mexican)! I know how to climb walls and run over roof tops, but for anyone that has a problem with the new spider-man! Can save it because everyone needs to realize that a new world is about to begin! It's time for people to not worry about color but worry about themselves! God bless America p.s anyway without america they cant be no blacksican spider-man!(me
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Awwww, that's a crazy idea! Now the guys who did Ben 10, THEY should do a Spiderman show!
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Dan Slott's Amazing Spiderman is shaping up to be one of the all time great runs.
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its amazing at all the racial jokes about the new bi-racial spider-man. Still racist bastards in the world . oh and yes to the person who said we are taking anime job as well, yes we are, we're better at it anyway.
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Funny thing s that when i saw Devin B. on the article, i was all like "that's my name!". Then i realized I didn't do anything.
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Thanks. I read some of the Ultimate X stuff - So I saw that his son was like him but a little different but I have not read their books in a while. I think they were super late so I dropped them.
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Way to rip off Jaime Reyes, Marvel.
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And who cares if he's not white? DCs JLA-cartoon had a black green lantern and quite frankly I liked him much better than Hal Jordan, even tough I didn't like that the stories focused way to much on him and hawkgirl than the others.
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Peter Parker got his powers from a spider bite, what is this guy going to walk into a lab somewhere and poke a spider until it bites him or something? If they use the same background for his powers I'll be disappointed.
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Fuck the Irish!
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"all black and hispanic people are too poor to buy comics," Buying comics makes it harder to afford my internet and cell phone.
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First off, I liked Spiderman before Marvel went all stupid with the odious Civil War and the gimmicks of the year that got just as old as DC's endless Crisis books. And this is another gimmick. Some kid in NYC will love this. But, the fans all over the country and world? Meh, we will see, if it lasts a year I will be stunned...
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"or if the original character was so lousy anyway that everyone was glad to see them go, and any replacement is going to be welcomed, and probably be better." This is why killing Ted Kord worked well. Plus DC has too many rich guy superheros. But plucky little, if overpowered, Jaime Reyes proved to be rather refreshing. Hell, he just wanted to be a dentist when he grew up. Got superpowers instead.
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Of course not, that would be racist.
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"We Asians apologize for NOTHING." Including the Great Leap Forward and the Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere? "retard cracker fat ass." Ya know what the cure for racism is? More racism? LOL! Great job there, guy
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Hell, I'd buy two copies.
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Joking about blacks stealing? Racist!
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Because contrary opinions are, like, SO TOTALLY RACIST!!!!
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That's really funny, actually. People are going to praise this decision by Marvel up and down all while dropping the title from their pull lists.
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Or possibly because people have been bitching about them ditching the classic look. But of course, it must be something sinister.
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So short version, Bendis is out of ideas and Marvel is trying to goose sales by shamelessly pandering to an audience of white middle class fluff headed morons. Ergo, half black, half generic latino (cause they're all the same amirite?), potentially gay (according to Sarah Pichelli) Spider-Man. My guess? Canceled within two years. Speaking as a reader, this is stupid. Speaking as someone who's of mixed Mexican ancestry, this isn't appealing. It's just vaguely insulting. And knowing all manner of Mexicans who have a real mad on for black people, I'm kinda wondering how Bendis thinks you can get the two to mix. Or...maybe Morales is Puerto Rican or Dominican.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you MikeOfTanith for writing sense! These are the times when I'm absolutely sure that my country has gone batsh*t crazy.
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"Miles" means "Soldier" in Latin.
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I think it's kind of odd that because of Rob's post, most of the comments here have focused on the fact that this new guy is non-white, as if that alone were significant. The fact that he's a New York City kid means that he's got something like a 70% chance of being non-white anyway. There's no reason a new Spidey should be white, and no reason his not being white should be remarkable. Now, if he were from a small town in Iowa, it'd be hard to explain his origin! I think the more important issue is now what do they do with him that differentiates him from Peter Parker. Will he have a large family? Will he deal with the fact that some of his cousins are gang members? Will he have family members addicted to drugs? Or maybe he could be an upper-crust rich kid whose friends think they have the right to do whatever they want and look down on normal people. There's a lot of exciting ways this could go in terms of story opportunities, but I feel like Marvel will probably keep the same-old tried and true stories about guys in tights who fight each other with no real consequences.
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Mulatto? You think that's less racist? Where I'm from that ranks up there with "high yellow" and "quadroon"! Besides which, why should we use old Spanish terms instead of new American ones?
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Dutch in Black Lagoon is no caricature. He's smart and doesn't talk "jive" the way Japanese people seem to think black Americans talk. Simon in Durarara!! is a black Russian, and while he's strange, he's not stereotypical. Cowboy Bebop had minor characters of all colors, and hell, in a live action adaptation I think people would approve if Jet Black was black (except then that makes the name sound kind of inappropriate). And what about Claudia Grant in Macross/Robotech? She even had a romance with a white guy! We don't have to hate anime just because we like diversity.
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There was an Ultimate Clone Saga? Forgive my ignorance since I've read almost no Ultimate comics. So it was just as disastrous in both universes huh?
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I'm down. I rather like this new Spidey, and I'm willing to give him a chance.
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If Marvel made a bigger attempt to tie her (or the other various Spiderwomen) into the "Spider-man" world (ie: as his partner or something) such as DC does with Batgirl, I think the characters would possibly be more successful.
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It's called mulato, no blacktino and stupid shit like that, jesus, this got out the recist in you isnt it?
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This is not the mainstream 616 Marvel Universe. It's Ultimate Marvel line. Think of it as Marvel's more permanent "What If?" playground. 616 Spider-Man is still Peter Parker, and he's having a really great run right now.
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What's really funny to me about this, now, 24 hours later... is that it's yet another example of the fine tradition of NOT letting minorities be new and original superheroes, but instead the ETHNIC version of an established superhero. The only thing different this time around is that he doesn't have BLACK in his superhero name.
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True, but it's been done well both ways. Marvel just pulled the former trick off with Bucky and Cap, and DC did the "out of nowhere" thing with Kyle and Jamie.
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So you'll be buying this when it comes out then?
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I take it you're not a Doctor Who fan... You have two choices: learn to adapt, or move on. No one will begrudge you for choosing the latter.
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You know, they actually flipped a coin over whether to kill Wolverine or Thunderbird, because their personalities were so much alike.
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I like it. Change is never bad or good by its own, true, but I have a firm belief in Bendis that not only will he be able to make all this work in a great new reborn way, but in the end of it, people will like the new character and accept him as the Spider-man of Ultimate universe. I really liked what Bendis had said before, that “as Uncle Ben was for Peter, now Peter would be the Uncle Ben of Miles”. I don’t know how it will work exactly, but Bendis seems to know what makes the spirit of Spider-man tick and can obviously keep the soul of Spidey while at the same time changing protagonists. And I like the change, its something new, something fresh, something that we can actually geek out in the future years to come. Go Miles!
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He looks like a young Obama! Maybe Barak is Spidey after all...
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Spiderman isn't just a costume, it's powers as well. So does this guy have Spider powers as well? Fill me in as I haven't read these books in a while.
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Love it. Proud that Marvel has the guts to do this. Meanwhile over at DC, those misogynists took Wonder Woman's pants back off because women can't wear pants and fight crime at the same time. Just sayin'.
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donald glover?
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You racist nerds!
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It also mean "morals/ethics" in English so it's not such a bad choice for a dude trying to live up to the whole "with great etc etc" thing.
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but this isn't a "What if PP was from a different ethnic background" alternate universe, I would totally roll with that, no problem whatsoever. This is a "What if we kill PP and replace him with some other kid who will TRY to be Spiderman".The fact that the kid is hispanic or whatnot is irrelevant, PP was ALWAYS representing a minority. A poor, kid from a "broken" family, shunned by his peers and usually having to deal with both the media and the state casting him in a negative light. As Spiderman the other superpowered heroes kinda treat him as a joke...even when he helps them out (one of the reasons they don't take him seriously is that Spidey is strictly a street level hero whereas they obviously feel that there are bigger fish to fry) and as PP he is a school outcast (despite getting good grades, or because of that) and at work he's permanently harassed while never getting a break. He makes mistakes, he's fallible, he's a dude called Peter Parker who HAS to wear a costume because he's actually figured out that there are no "small" good deeds and that everything has an impact. I dunno man, I feel like i'm writing an essay about the blindingly obvious. The moment PP died, Ultimate Spidey stopped being Ultimate Spidey. It's done. game over. Now it's a new guy who wears the suit but that's.not.spidey. and unless the writers are completely stupid they know this too. On the flipside just seeing the half-witted racist teeth gnashing over this kinda makes it all worthwhile....could have been done better though. I SUSPECT they are testing the water to see if it would go down well regarding movies and such...but that they didnt want to go the whole way just in case. weird. So Hollywood.
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If you still think you have to point that out, you may want to read back the other replies to your comment. (the title of the episode is My Musical)
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I love how racist many of the complainers are. Why hasn't that brand of stupidity died yet?
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Not true. Beast died twice, ditto Green Goblin, Magneto never died until Ultimatum
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Should've been a half-black, half-Latino lesbian girl in a wheelchair.
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Yeah, because "Morales" isn't a popular name in Spanish speaking countries or anything.
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Actually, it's more like acknowledging people who aren't white a) exist and b) aren't inferior to white folk. But you don't like the first fact and don't accept the second
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Hey! Racism is AWESOME! (I was being sarcastic you stupid inbred fuck)
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There already was an Ultimate Spidey Clone Saga...
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CLONE!!!!! I'm still going for the ultimate clone saga here folks. But a nice idea of marvel to have a "Blaxicen" (that is PC right??) ((If not sorry)) Spiderman i support this new character may he do well in his future stories.
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I'll take 10.
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Swordsmiths?
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Bendis doesn't plan shit. He sticks pen ink up his nose and then sneezes on a piece of loose leaf paper and calls it a story.
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The Ultimate Clone Saga.. actually.. even before that.. The Ultiamte Carnage kills Ultimate Gwen bit was where I jumped ship.
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I liked Bendis's writing. I didn't care too often for the characters though. And I never was a big fan of Bagley's art.
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No. No it's not. Why do people keep saying this? Notice how movie Cap wasn't a conservative asshole with a stick up his ass like Millar's garbage Ultimate Cap was. Plus Amazing Spider-man, for all the Ultimate talk, isn't actually a Marvel controlled film. It's being done by Columbia / Sony. Also does anyone besides corporate suits who know nothing about the films they make use the term "edgy", often adding air quotes?
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I actually have a friend who has called themselves Blaxican. Also Blatina. (Plus, with the Puerto Rican or Dominican comment, I was making a ref to the Scrubs musical episode.)
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does this kid have special powers? or did he just steal parkers costume?
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I hope not. We don't need a Clone Saga all over again. I liked Scarlet Spider/Ben Reilly. I thought there could've been room for the both of them but I guess not.
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I want diversity and I fucking hate anime.
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shit, inb4 doesn't work???? DAMN YOU FOR LYING TO ME INTERNETS
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You mean he isn't Blaxican?
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This looks cool, besides, Peter will be back in a year. Right before the Spider-Man movie and cartoon comes out in 2012. Marvel is going to need Peter as Spider-Man in all the spidey books for all the new readers that pick up the book.
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Let's hope so.
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Considering how comic trends to sell on shock value nowadays, SHUSH! You're giving them ideas! XD
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Spider-Tags! Suck it, J.J.J! XD
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But what's the point of an alternate universe if it's just going to be the same guy, only with the slightest bit of adjustments and gimmicks? I kinda liked the idea of "what ifs" where they alter so much about my beloved heroes. It's a refreshing take, and it also makes me think if such a thing is possible or not. Thought provoking, you see.
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Excuse ME, retard cracker fat ass. While you were burning women and curing diseases with leeches and piss, we were sailing the seven seas and building empires. We Asians apologize for NOTHING. You hear me? Nothing.
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I'm not even going to touch the gross racist BS your posts are smothered in (others have attempted already), but I just have to add one thing - because it seems to go over so many like-minded idiots' heads: If you ever really DID give a sh*t about Spider-Man, you'd know this story isn't even about the Spider-Man who's been around for 50 years - no, feel free to cheer and throw up a salute, because that guy's still white as snow and appearing in a crapload of Marvel comics every month. This is an alternate universe story, where from the start Nick Fury was already black (Samuel L. Jackson, to be specific) and Colossus was already gay...so I'm sure you would have written it off in white-pride-anger from day one anyways. Even the very impetus for your racist tirade is nonexistent, dude.
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Three sisters? Two sisters?
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Wish they didn't have to kill off Parker to do this, but whatever. Best thing about the Ultimate Universe is that they tend to play for keeps with character death. Miles will be around much, much, much longer than he would be in the 616.
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Did he grow up in Illinois or was it Michigan?
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Marvel would turn Spidey into a hump-backed hermaphrodite if they thought it would sell books.
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Ola mi Amigo!!
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You're confusing Spider-Man: Inda with Indian Spiderman.............BIG difference.
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She has Peter's memories. When he heard about this encounter he ran out of the house, implying that a part of him was willing to experiment with men, he had just suppressed those feelings. She has all of his memories, including the Mary Jane make-out sessions.
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Alright, Let's break down why this doesn't work. It's not because he's black/hispanic whatever. It's not because he doesn't have Spider-Powers. It's not because he is not a part of the existing universe. It's because he is not Peter Parker. Let me come clean. I have not cared about any comic as much as Ultimate Spider Man. I have read the title for five years and have every trade paperback, as well as dozens of single issues. And through that time, Peter Parker, ULTIMATE Peter Parker, has guided me and been a fantastic character and even role model. Every thing Andrew Garfield said about Spider-Man? It goes double for me. But for Peter Parker. He has fought and triumphed against tragedy unheard of in the 616 universe. He is more than an exemplar. He was funny, intelligent, but with problems we could actually relate to. Peter's individual fights were powerful, funny, engaging, and above all, human. He grappled against powers that were beyond his control. He fought against the authority of Nick Fury and all of SHIELD. He made hard decisions that cut him off from his loved ones, like breaking up with Mary Jane. Basically, I am a sucker for a well written character. And this incarnation of Peter Parker was honest and powerful. Now, I am sure the new character will be great. He will have great connections. Bring a new voice to the Ultimate universe. But I loved all of Peter's relationships. His ties. He was the beating heart of not only the title, not only the Ultimate universe, but what all of Marvel's titles aspire to be. I will buy the title. I will buy it. But i will not accept him as Spider-Man. And though people have made a big deal about how it could be anyone under the suit, how all concealing it is, how great of an equalizer it is, I know the truth. Peter Parker is Spider-Man.
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Three posts in a row? Such dedication for a troll. Listen up, you pampered, privileged whitey with a silver spoon in your mouth: the reason why your Neo Nazi bullshit isn't working is because nobody in their right mind wants to be associated with you. They've seen centuries of what happen when you white supremacist were left to your own devices and pretty much fucks up everyone's shit. White supremacy is a virus: you go in, you kill everyone and everything, and move on to different plains to start it all over again. You're a disease, and one that must be purged. And as for your "Bawww baww baww, immigrants are eating up our shit! Stop them bawww!", well, all I can say is, tough shit. YOU built the system of free market. YOU laid the stones for capitalism. And now when it came back to bite you in the ass, YOU want to complain? BULL. SHIT. You've created your own monster, and like it or not, you have no right to blame it when it stomps on a few buildings.
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Wow. And just when I thought you couldn't be more racist, you proved me wrong. Go back to your trailer, skinhead, and keep on polishing those swastikas. Hitler's not dead. He's just hiding in Argentina.
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"Should be white", huh? Why? Why should he be white? For all I care, Spider-Man is a human with the powers of a spider (and then some). There is nothing in his biography that states that he "should be white" other than the creator being a white person and tradition. Is it really a hard sell for you for a "chico" to be swinging around on webs in brightly themed costume? Is it really that painful to admit for you that a "brother" can fight crime with superpowers? Next thing you know, you're gonna tell us a black man shouldn't be president.
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Well, they already did the whole Clone Saga in the Ultimate universe, so I doubt it.
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Well, Ultimate Spider-man was the "good" Spider-man comic, so yeah, it matters. Well, as much as a comic can matter, I guess.
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Arana really isn't gone... she had a solo series as Spider-Girl and now she's in the Spider Island event giong on right now. She's actually been feature more consistently over the last year or so than since her intro I think.
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Yes but the sequels still involved Neo and Morpheus. How about we kill them both off for no real reason other than to piss fans off. And as far as USM goes, the whole series was good including #160. I am sure Bendis will write Morales well. He is a fantastic writer. But damn it I want to read this Pete as Spidey. Over 100 issues I have bought and read. I don't want a "new" chapter. I am not part of this ADD/ADH culture that is fickle and flutters to the new ethnic Spidey that gets USA Today write ups. Then when this series crashes and burns they will come back in five or six years and say, "Hey why did we close up and burn down one of the best selling books we have ever had? Let's reboot the Ultimate line." By then everyone will have moved on.
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Absolutely terrible.
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Spider-man 2099 says hello.
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Before being a smart ass and trying to get some cheap love on an Internet forum that you obviously don't get anywhere else, re-read what I said: "A GOOD AMOUNT" does not mean all, and I was referring to BMB, not the jewish community in and of itself... but you knew that. Troll. Go eat a Troll-berlone.
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Please, be joking. This sort of thing makes me want to cancel ALL sites with comment sections. So Peter Parker has been killed, and this was totally fine until we learned that this totally new character that you've never seen before isn't white? I guess black/latino and black/white mixed races are exactly the same. I guess I was confused. I can agree to a point with those who make an argument about creative decisions like this feeling like pandering or a way to avoid developing unique minority characters. I also think that if a time comes where they want to bring back Ultimate Peter, there may be a negative reaction to kicking the new black kid off of the book. But canceling comics because of the way an imaginary character is colored? I can't even call that prejudice since it's not even against a real person or thing. It's just fucking stupid.
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Yep, all skinny black kids = Obama. *eyeroll*
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This is about comics, not what you think about the president. Way to stay on topic.
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Don't forget, it's marvel they need a mutant somewhere in there to seal the deal.
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Okay I laughed out loud at that.
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I guess I'll cancel out your decision to cancel, NOBama, because I think it's cool. First, comics do need more diversity, and, second, I didn't see any point in following Ultimate AND 616 Peter Parkers. This differentiates the titles. I don't see why everyone wants to celebrate Kirby and Lee for breaking away from the pack by challenging the then-current status quo by keeping comics frozen in an endlessly-rebooted Silver Age construct.
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Really? REALLY?!? Does he know that she's a clone with Peter's memories? The only thing I can compare this to is that one episode of <i>Seinfeld</i> where George was dating a woman who Kramer insisted looked like Jerry. And that plot ended with her getting a Jerry-esque haircut, sending George screaming out of the room.
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I will not accept this change of the world. Spidey is peter parker, and noone else. I'm not racist, if there were some other hero this guy could be i'd accept it. (some-one that has to be invented, not another replacement)
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Now when they reboot the movie franchise, they won't have any excuse not to hire Donald Glover.
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well rumor has it Marvel has stated that they aren't closed to the idea of making him gay as well. Now all he needs is a transgendered uncle/aunt, a best friend who's confined to a wheelchair, and maybe his sister/brother can be mentally challenged. Then they'll have covered all their bases.
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