its a child's cartoon on Disney xd, deal with it! how about they make an ultimate spidey anime like ironman, that would be dope
Okay, before I say anything, just watch these two new clips from the upcoming Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon. We'll discuss them afterwards.
Obviously, Ultimate Spidey is trying to be Marvel's Teen Titans, a mix of humor and action, complete with super-deformed Spidey cutaways, e.g. his Spidey sense in the first video. I really, really liked Teen Titans. So why am I not feeling Ultimate Spider-Man?
I'm not sure, exactly, other than to say that US feels like it's doing it wrong. Maybe it's because part of Spider-Man's fundamental appeal is that while his situations are often dramatically dire, he can be -- and usually is -- funny. In US, it appears they've gotten this mixed up -- Peter's not particularly humorous in either of the clips, while three supervillains are defeated by a high school cafeteria food fight. There's no tension there, and it's not funny -- in fact, it's pretty dumb, and it's going to be hard to be concerned for Spidey ever if the bad guys are all dumb enough to be bested by teenage idiots with cafeteria trays. And Teen Titans did a great job of mixing action, drama and humor; US doesn't seem to have that down yet.
I'm not going to write off the show yet (which is admittedly strange for me, since making snap judgments is kind of my modus operandi) but seriously, none of the clips of Ultimate Spider-Man that have been released so far have made me want to watch it. What about you guys? (Via Comics Alliance)
Obviously, Ultimate Spidey is trying to be Marvel's Teen Titans, a mix of humor and action, complete with super-deformed Spidey cutaways, e.g. his Spidey sense in the first video. I really, really liked Teen Titans. So why am I not feeling Ultimate Spider-Man?
I'm not sure, exactly, other than to say that US feels like it's doing it wrong. Maybe it's because part of Spider-Man's fundamental appeal is that while his situations are often dramatically dire, he can be -- and usually is -- funny. In US, it appears they've gotten this mixed up -- Peter's not particularly humorous in either of the clips, while three supervillains are defeated by a high school cafeteria food fight. There's no tension there, and it's not funny -- in fact, it's pretty dumb, and it's going to be hard to be concerned for Spidey ever if the bad guys are all dumb enough to be bested by teenage idiots with cafeteria trays. And Teen Titans did a great job of mixing action, drama and humor; US doesn't seem to have that down yet.
I'm not going to write off the show yet (which is admittedly strange for me, since making snap judgments is kind of my modus operandi) but seriously, none of the clips of Ultimate Spider-Man that have been released so far have made me want to watch it. What about you guys? (Via Comics Alliance)
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I'm really not sure what to make of this; its tone seems a lot more goofy than the previous footage I've seen. Someone said it on another forum, but some of this seems like it would be more suited for a Deadpool cartoon. I'll give it a shot definitely, but I really am worried they may come off as trying too hard and ultimately (haw haw) risk coming off as juvenile and distracting. I don't want to see Dr. Doom, Venom, or the Green Goblin get beaten by....hijinks...
Someones having a serious time trying to tell the difference between ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN and 616 SPIDER-MAN.
Get over yourself Rob, you're judging a series before you actually sit down and watch a full episode. Freaking out like this is proof you're like any other bitchy nerd that cries when your extremely high expectations are dashed because you're too busy putting your foot in your mouth. You were the same way with Thundercats and Young Justice when you saw promo clips, saying they look like shit and they don't have the same feel as any of the other shows. So get off your high horse and put your big boy pants on and deal with the fact this isn't YOUR spider-man.
"We're called the Fuck-fest Four." "But there are only three of you."Hahahahahahaha. This joke wasn't funny the first 50 times it has been done in comics/cartoons.
This seems like it's trying to compete with a show that's not even aired anymore. Bring back Spectacular!
Do you see how far that guy flies back when he gets hit by the tray of food? I think that was thrown with the porportional strength of a spider.
What with the monologing to the camera, the wacky high school stuff and the out of left field gags, I got a better name for this series - "Peter Parker can't lose."
For me, this doesn't feel like Teen Titans Spider-Man, this is X-Men Evolution Spider-Man. It's like Spider-Man Evolution! I may be one of the very few people that actually liked X-Men: The Highschool Years, but I don't know if this will work as well. The whole schtick of Spider-Man is that he is balancing real-life/ highschool problems with superheroics. He is NOT supposed to be using his highschool-ness to DO superheroics! Two clips in, and I am not a fan already. But then... I read comics from time to time so I'm not the target audience for Superhero stuff anymore.
Wow....couldnt view the video on my phone,but read the article and the comments and was expecting it to be horrible. That wasnt bad....that wasnt bad at all. I'll give it a chance.
Call me crazy, but when I heard that the new series was going to be called Ultimate Spider-Man, I had this ridiculous notion that it was going to be adaptation of Ultimate Spider-Man, not some completely unrelated Teen Titans ripoff.
I mean, fine if you want to do your own thing, it just we already HAD a Spider-Man cartoon that was doing it's own thing, and it was awesome. If you're not going to do an adaptation of Bendis' long-running comic series, then can't we have a continuation of that other show? Instead of... whatever this is?
Yeah, it does feel like they're trying a little too hard, but it's hard to pass judgment without the context of the rest of the episode.
On a related side note, this is supposed to be based on the Ultimate line, right? I have to say the villains don't look like their from the Ultimate Universe. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing though.
Must be me, but I was pretty entertained by this style. I'm actually rather pumped for this one.
I'm cautiously optimistic. Once, something by Paul Dini and Man of Action would have had me on pins and needles, but after Weisman massively disappointed me with Young Justice...
just like the 90's cartoon i feel this one is going to get disjointed with all the cameo's by the avengers and co. Thats why i loved spectacular spider man, it focused on spider man and not nick fury and the avengers.
I actually didn't mind it. Also, I would consider making snap judgments your signature, your MO would be complaining about it on the interwebs.
Josh Keaton was the best spidey ever!And my heart has not healed since those idiots canceled the “Spectacular Spider-Man” show.the only consolation here is that it looks nothing like the Ultimate Spider-man Design! Now if they can somehow avoid the Hulk-Goblin, Skanky Ultimate Gwen or the boring-as-hell SHIELD, I’ll be the happiest human being on the face of planet Earth!
I made it 35 seconds into the first one and 19 seconds into the second one. Even the 90s cartoon wasn't that dumb. Well, usually.
Hopefully, the show will find its footing after a few episodes.
90's Spiderman never had goofy cartoony bits. Or did you mean that 90's Spiderman didn't talk so much as Ultimate Spiderman does here?
Much as I adore it, the 90's Spider-Man was never goofy? Au contraire... giant combining Spider-Slayers? J. Jonah Jameson getting an episode to himself as a wannabe P.I.? Captain America and the Red Skull getting locked in a laser array form of suspended animation? Spidey hamming it up when wearing the black suit? "SHOOOOOOCCKKEER!!! YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME!!!! I'll FOLLOW YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EAAAAARRTHH!!!!"
Adapting the Clone Saga but with Hydro Man and Mary Jane instead of Spidey and Gwen Stacey. Spidey teaming up with the retirement home age Invaders. Black Cat getting superpowers from the same formula that created Captain America, except it dyes her hair white. Black Cat dating sucker-hands Morbius. An underground race of lizard men created when Doc Conners dumped his serum down the toilet. Carnage created by Dormammu and Baron Mordru to harvest souls or something.
The Chameleon is also Red Skull's son. Harry Osborn being haunted by his father's inter-dimensional ghost. HOBGOBLIN EXISTING BEFORE THE GREEN GOBLIN. Mary Jane's Aunt Anna being a hateful antagonistic shrew who set the Punisher on Peter Parker!!! A two part story adapting "The Kid who collects Spider-Man", except the boy is a girl and she isn't dying of cancer. Adapting Secret Wars but with Spidey as the leader, Black Cat subbing in for She Hulk and the Lizard fufilling the Hulk's role.
THE FREAKING SPOT GETTING AN ENTIRE EPISODE DEVOTED TO HIM. THE SAME HAPPENING TO ROCKET RACER AND THE BIG WHEEL. THE SPOT, WHAT THE ACTUAL
FUCKING FUCK?
I adored that show as a kid. Hell, I still do. If nothing else, it adhered to its own bizarrely divergent continuity, it had Ed Asner as the second best J. Jonah Jameson ever, mostly solid voice acting, a kickass guitar riff intro, a great version of the Black Suit saga, and an awesome finale which had Peter team up with 8 different alternate reality versions of himself, including a normal guy called Peter Parker who wore the suit for children's birthday parties. And a Stan Lee cameo at the end where Pete took him web slinging.
Not to mention making Electro the Red Skull's son, turning Morbius from a Vampire to a Metroid out for "plasma", replacing the Punisher's guns with stun nets, and sending Green Goblin to limbo instead of, I don't know, DYING.
I think it doesn't work because Teen Titans is NOT the type of show Spider-Man should be emulating. It SHOULD be emulating The Brave and The Bold, because Spidey is perfect to team up with various and sometimes lesser known characters of the Marvel Universe. Hell, Marvel Team-Up did it for nearly 150 issues. If you're gonna model a Marvel version if Teen Titans, make it New Mutants or Generation X, an actual TEAM book.
To explain further, Spidey should team up with other heroes on a whim, not as part of a teen team of heroes working for S.H.I.E.L.D. MTU was all about "Oh hai Other Marvel Hero! I see we're after the same villain, we should team-up!". The conceit of "teens that are part of an organization" works better for an established Marvel team.
Based on his avatar, Square Eggs. Square Eggs that have gone BAAAADD, if you know what I mean (by which I mean they're laced with LSD).
"The only thing I'm on is Love...Love for my Son and Daughters! Yep, a little LSD is all I need!"
not nearly enough footage to make an informed decision, and I've watched FAR to many pilot episode to ever think they represent the show as a whole.
Really? Some may, but I'd argue that an awful lot of shows' pilots aren't anything like what they later become. I mean, take Community, for instance. Compare its pilot and anything from about season 2 onwards and you're practically watching two different shows.
I was hoping it'll live up to it's title since designs are awesome and animation is great... but the more I see it, the more I think it's a train wreck.
Wait, they turned down the Skottie Young designs because they were too "Teen Titaney".
I think it's official now. Disney's marketing arm is run by dicks.
holy hell you all bitched about spectacular spider man when before it came out too, your doing the same damn thing here.
sorry TR but I can't agree with you on this show looks silly but fun. Quit whining already
I can honestly say I didn't bitch about Spectacular Spidey before it came out. Wolverine and The X-Men on the other hand...
Now then i'm a kind and paient person on the whole so i'm not going to judge it just yet, but if you want a show with people breaking the forth wall theres this guy called Deadpool. Spider-Man's fun comes from banter and slapstick not weird random anime inserts and Spider-Man has always been at its core drama
Kristen Wiig's Lola Bunny rules...too bad Bugs is a bore as a mostly straight character...never understood making him a leading hero type. Or making Daffy his frenemy.
All this talk of Spectacular Spider-Man is really making me wish I'd watched it. But the first season or was on at the same time as when Iowa Hawkeye football usually kicked off, and the second season was on a channel I didn't get then.
Now I'll probably end up going to Best Buy after work and buy it on DVD.
