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Well, not crap on it, exactly, but to delicately point out that even though this is a game made by very talented overworked people, it has its flaws, some of which are mildly irritating, and a few of which are really goddamn annoying. We think it's worth noting that as good as it is, Mass Effect 3 isn't perfect. WARNING: There will be some spoilers here, so if you are one of the few people who hasn't bought the game yet and have been neglecting food and other people just to play it, you may not want to read this article.
8) White Shepards Can't Jump
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7) That Day-One DLC
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6) The Glitches
Disappearing characters. Wonky physics. Walking through walls. Walking partway through walls, and then getting stuck. Wrong camera angles. Planets that won't scan. Difficulty importing characters. Elevators that stop randomly in-between floors. Shepard soaring through the air. These are just a few of the many, many glitches found in ME3. Of course, any game as big and ambitious as Mass Effect 3 will have some bugs no matter what. What's irritating is that there are so many of them, especially when Bioware apparently found the time to make that damn DLC.
5) It's Too Damn Dark
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4) So Many People Die
Supporting characters in the Mass Effect universe tend to get killed. For example, in Mass Effect 1, if you can send either Kaiden or Ashley to help the Salarans distract Saren's Geth on Vimire while you sneak around and plant a nuke and whichever one you don't save with reinforcements gets nuked. In Mass Effect 2, it's a little more complex, as the loyalty a character has for you can determine if they get killed in the finale (I don't see how loyalty really equals survivability, but whatever). But in Mass Effect 3, characters seem to die at the drop of a hat. In fact, you shouldn't drop a hat, because then a millenary expert may show up and stab Tali in the neck. I understand the need to kill off a few characters to raise the stakes and add some drama, but most of us have been been controlling these characters since the first game, and have put a lot of work into leveling them up. We didn't spend all that time so they could all keel over in the first few hours of ME3. It's less tragic and more annoying.
3) The Multiplayer
You know, the last two Mass Effect games sold just fine, and they were totally single-player. Adding multiplayer to Mass Effect 3 is technically fine, but having the player's multiplayer performance adjusting the outcome of the single player game? Not okay. One of the reasons I played Mass Effect was for a really strong single player game; I could actually play something on my Xbox without having to deal with swearing racist 14-year-olds. Now Bioware is making you deal with them. Also, the single player has been tweaked so if you don't want to play the game like it's an RPG, you don't have to! You can play it like a shooter! Hey, Bioware, you know what? Stop messing up my RPG with your vain attempt to get shooter people to like Mass Effect -- the people who want to play shooters are already playing Modern Warfare 3.
2) The Endings
The endings of Mass Effect 3 have been quite controversial, meaning that some people hate it a lot, enough to have started an internet petition to have these endings changed. While I personally think the endings are fine, I understand why people are so upset. One of the problems about these endings is that they're all pretty much the same -- same animation, slight palette shift, Reapers defeated, Normandy inexplicably traveling through a Mass Relay, ending up on an alien planet, credits roll. With a game series built on making your own decisions, each with their own effects and consequences, some reasonably unique endings would have been nice (for instance, in the original Knights of the Old Republic, you at least got the choice of saving the galaxy OR RULING IT LIKE A GOD. Two very different outcomes). From the first game, on the player's decisions vastly effect the galaxy to the point where they're carried through the sequels -- then at the end, it suddenly doesn't matter what the player does, because their last "choice" is essentially meaningless. No wonder it's rubbing so many fans the wrong way. Likewise, a lot of people are irked that Shepard dies no matter what ending you "choose." Sure, what with the whole Christ motif of your character, and the huge amount of foreshadowing going on, it's no surprise that Shepard ends up dead in at least some of the endings, but it might have been nice if this beloved character managed to clearly survive one of 'em.
1) The Reveal
HUGE SPOILER TIME. Yes, there's a lot of people out there who don't like the endings to this game. I think the endings themselves are fine. The issue I have is right before the endings where you meet the entity controlling the reapers, which is a little boy. Yes, I realize that it's just an avatar of the machine entity that controls the Reapers, but really, Bioware, you went to Contact for inspiration? Having the reveal of the big mysterious thing controlling the universe to be a little boy is a letdown. I understand the logic of the machine presenting itself as a familiar image to seem less threatening, but to the audience, it's kind of disappointing to discover you've spent three games trying to save the galaxy from Dennis the Menace. Considering the shape of the Reapers, we were expecting a Space Cthulhu voiced by Tom Waits; instead, it's a little boy. I will now see if there's a way to kill that little boy in repeated playthroughs.
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First of all, the Exteneded Cut actually is a nice addition. I liked the endings before, but they are much more satisfying with the extensions, especially since my Shep survived. The Conduit (or Intelligence, whichever you prefer) takes the form of the little boy because it is the same boy Shep witnessed get murderkilled by the Reapers at the beginning. There some deep meaning as to the connection to the nightmares and all that, but I'm pretty sure the Conduit is meant to be the little boy you saw earlier. There's probably some BS excuse that the Conduit is using Sheps memories to form it's avatar, actually I think the Conduit says as much, but still I liked the reveal. That was a difficult decision, each has pros and cons. For example: Synthesis means everlasting peace between organics and synthetics but you essentially destroy what it means to be human, salarian, turian, etc. Control: You are able to use the Reapers to defend the galaxy from any threat, essentially becoming God, but then everyone else loses the freedom to do as they please and life goes according only to GodShep's plans. Destroy: The Reapers are permanently killed off for real forever, but the Geth are exterminated along with your good friend EDI (as well as Shep w/o enough allies). No matter what you choose, you MUST sacrifice something, be it your freedom, your life, or your friends lives.
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You people are not true M.E. fans if you didn't punch something when Legion died and definitely aren't fans if you didn't go completely bat shit insane when you saw the ending. You have a right to your opinion and you have the right to voice your opinion, as do I. Still if you are not entirely pissed the fuck off about how BioWare did this then you shouldn't have the right to voice or even have an opinion about the game.
Exactly, the DLC was advertised from the very beginning as something extra to get people interested in the collector's edition. Don't want to pay for CE? Fine, but don't bitch because you have to pay extra for something others got becasue they already paid extra for it. If we're discussing issues with Mass Effect, I can't believe some of the more obvious things escaped notice. Like how about all those decisions we made throughout ME1 and ME2 not really meaning a damn thing? Who the heel made Udina a council member, because it sure wasn't me? I get that the ME3 storyline has to have things a certain way, but then don't make me choose and make it seem like it matters. And what about the Collector Base? All those big bad decisions throughout the story simply result in occasional different conversations. However, I will say that how many charcaters die in ME3 might be effected by previous decisions, so there is that. It just annoyed me that I spent a lot of time prepping 4 different characters for ME3, so I could see all the different things, only to play essentially 4 of the extact same game.
I agree with Eric as well. Just about every one of these issues sounds like they were written by someone who never played the game. Except for the minor glitches, most of which I think have been patched by now, and the jumping thing. I never thought of the inability to jump before, but you did hit it on the head with that one. The DLC you mentioned was included free with the collector's edition, which was something like $10-20 more than the normal, so we all knew that it would have to purchased separately by the rest of us. I did have an issue with the endings, but mainly because I didn't understand what the heck was going on. The new FREE DLC that gives the extended endings fixed that for me. There is a lot more conversation with the boy to understand what choice does what, and the final cut scenes are much more in depth now so at least there is closure. The multiplayer is irrelevant, which any player should know. If you have a thorough play-through in single player, than your military rating is more than enough for all choices, even at the 50% modifer. Multiplayer allows you to skip alot if you wish, for example only doing priority missions, and still have all choices. Oh, and common sense dictates that Shepard HAS to die at the end. Mass Effect is so stinking awesome and popular, the only way to keep people from demanding a Mass Effect 4 out of Bioware is to kill off the main character in the grand finale. I should mention; however, that I have yet to complete all choices with the new DLC so I don't know if all 3 endings have Shepard die. It would be nice to come home as the hero, but there is a certain rightness to him/her giving his life in the final moments to save the galaxy and the new final scenes with his/her romantic interest are quite touching. Don't want to give any more away for those who haven't scene it yet, although you can probably just look at it on Youtube anyway :)
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I would have thought that the ending to Mass Effect 3 was a decent, if severely flawed in both a logical and emotional manner, ending if: 1. It hadn't been the ending to a Mass Effect game. 2. It wasn't a video game ending. 3. I could have shot the hologram kid and the reapers would have shut down, if slowly. But that's simply my personal opinion.
Don't be silly your squad mates were with you in the final push and everyone was wiped out by the laser beam and there's nowhere for a ship the size of Normandy to land in London or even get near the ground,it's obvious the developers weren't thinking straight when they concocted the last part of the game,I suspect we won't get an explanation either.
I found this game a total disappointment I far preferred the first game and wish they stuck to that formula,but the sequel was still pretty good,however the third and final game is a disaster in my book and not just for the lazy unimaginative brain dead endings,but the game has many faults,glitch wise the game likes to crash a lot and sometimes your squad mates disappear behind walls and locked doors and your head is facing away while talking to them,also the background graphics are truly awful and far worse than the other games,then there's the lack of dialogue choice and auto dialogue,also I am not keen on a multiplayer element in a single player game,so wish they hadn't included it,but it was obviously done to appeal to the COD crowd,shame on Bioware for attempting this,need I go on?
I thought the game was well crafted, but derivative. I kept thinking things like "Oh look, Im the fifth element too!"
I agree with the lighting comment.Granted the graphics look better with more shadows etc and it sets the tone/mood in contrast with moments on the citadel but it does get tiresome trudging through a bleak ship and squinting through caves, locations without lighting.
The ending I can accept, but as others have mentioned its the things you do and who you've accomplished it with that you want closure on as well, just a 5 minute epilogue of the characters and places youve had such an impact on wouldve been nice.
The only glitch that was predominant for me was vanishing squadmates, often Id wonder what happened to my support fire and call them in to have them spawn out of nowhere into existence.
Character deaths irked me, fate seems to love killing a character even if, or especially if you make a noble decision.Still wouldn't change it as its part of the narrative of the world you inhabit as much as the disastrous turns the romances go in which you have to accept.
The space boy should've been an enormous reaper voiced by James MOTHERFUCKING Earl Jones (Darth Vader, Mufasa, Need I go on?)
Or just Bruce Lee.
All of these comments.... I have I thought of it at one point or another in the SP. You guys have hit it on the nose. BW has lost creds with me....I was with them from the very first Shepard. It actually Feels like they are beginning to commercialize themselves with each new release (dragon. age 2 prime example). it breaks my heart..that the role playing fans are not begin heard.
The issue with this game is the inconsistency, this happened because this game is about making tons of money with the hype of the first two games. As I played the game I stopped having fun it just seems like a game that was not finished.
Certain places I was expecting cut scene and there where non, as for two dark did not have that issue but I was on the PC. Graphics where fine, can't remember any glitches but there where problems toward the end with how getting stuck. Then we get to the illusive man and it all goes south and down the drain. Child god thing, really, legion is Jesus now wtf, has to sacrifice it self. I have no issue with characters dying but come on this is sloppy lazy writing. This game just feel like it started with good ideas and then EA said its "money" time. What is pissing me off is that I bought into the hype that Bioware was spouting about choices, now I know better. No ending just lame half turd cut scene with maybe just maybe some indoctrination ideas. Oh well that just how greed works.
My biggest problem with the single player is that there is no Krogen team member. We've had a Krogen on deck since day one. And the rest of the characters are very bland. There are some no win situations which also pisses me off. Shepard makes a career out of doing the impossible, so there should never ever be a no win scenario for him or any of his crew unless he wishes it. And oh yeah, EA is a huge greedy bowl of asses. Day one DLC? Come on.
@Josh Brown
These endings feel like the matrix movies as welll as Deus Ex. The enemies you are fighting
aren't real - it is really a cycle and choice. Blatant ripoff of the
TERRIBLE matrix sequences where a "new" guy (the architect) is
introduced as the one really in control and inexplicably gives you a
choice in a battle you can't win. So you had no way to win unless this
guy was NICE to you and gives you a choice. Assuming he created the reapers one assumes he doesn't really need you, That is the epitome of
lame.
Where's Harbinger?!?! I think he was mentioned once or twice, but as big of a role as he played in ME2 you'd think he'd be a lot more involved...
I get that ME3 as a whole represents "the ending", and it does a great job of that in parts, but the end of the ending sucks and that's still pretty unforgiveable IMO.
The ending is more problematic if taken from a science fiction point of view. The first time playing the endings I knew something was strange about all the statements the catalyst says at the end of the game, but only upon actually thinking about them did its whole premise and reason for creating the reapers and ruling the universe, along with its solutions to these problems, its just utterly moronic.
1.) The concept that synthetics will always fight organics. Actually this is an assumption of the catalyst's intended statement, because the whole "the creators will always destroy the created" or however it was stated is more stupid, because that implies that whatever the created or creators were constructed of wouldn't matter in the end about why there is conflict between organics and synthetics. So synthesis wouldn't end anything. However, if pure synthetics always ending up fighting pure organics was the catalyst's AI intended statement, then that point is also contradicting. After all, organics always fighting synthetics cannot be true all the time if the geth allowed the quarians to live alongside them, and even help them to live on their homeworld alongside other geth. Besides, organics would still fight organics, and the geth fighting each other and also ending up fighting the reapers again shows that fighting will occur anyway. So however the Catalyst's AI made its conclusion is utterly contradicting of the facts given in the mass effect universe, and thus makes this supposedly super intelligent AI look stupider then the eight year old child of which it chooses to take form.
2.) Pure synthesis will not solve anything for many reasons. First of all, as already stated, synthetics still war with synthetics, and organics still war with organics. How the frack would it end this chaos by synthesizing all organic and synthetic life into a single type of genetic structure? How does that suddenly take away the reasons for why any sentient beings war against other sentient beings? Knowledge of the mass effect universe implies the answer to both these questions is that it wouldn't end the chaos because such a synthesis would not change the reasons for why there is conflict and war. One might state that the only way this synthesis would solve such a problem is that it would technically cease war between pure organics and pure synthetics by making them organic synthetic creatures, and thus "technically" eliminating the existence of pure synthetics and pure organics. Of course, this will not stop these synthetic organics from creating other forms of life that could be purely organic or purely synthetic, thus implying that this technical lawyerish answer the catalyst gives again doesn't gurantee that such conflict will end.
These two reasons show that the ending was from a science fiction point of view to have more plot holes then Tommy Wysow's "The room," which is even more disappointing since the music and gameplay were fantastic, and there were many sci fi plots within the trilogy that would have made for a much better ending, or at the very least a less problematic ending. It is for all these reasons that I am very disappointed in Mass effect 3's ending, and I think bioware should have done a better job.
Same with the skipping over most since I haven't finished, but I really dislike that whole multiplayer thing. Like, REALLY dislike. I don't play well with others, and not that I'm a crappy teammate, it's just that I really just like playing on my own in the story mode. If I didn't have to play MP, I probably would maybe attempt it once or twice while owning the game. Story mode is so much more important to me than multiplayer, but I guess I'll have to change my attitude if I want to end the game on a somewhat okay note =/
Another thing I dislike probably isn't a big thing to others (also, I didn't check if anyone mentioned this), maybe just a first world problem for me, but I don't like the whole part where ME3 can't bring over the facial appearance of your Shepard. I'm being a big baby about this, but I love my FemShep's appearance in the second game, and I was really looking forward to how the graphics would improve her appearance in the third game. Then I find out that it won't even let me use the same facial structure that I like so much =( I ended up making a Shep that looks similar to my old one, but not as pretty. Like I said, #firstworldME3problems...
I skipped through most of this cause I havent finished it yet and I dont want to know what happens... but my biggest complaint so far (I can deal with the glitches and bugginess... I thought it was funny when I was talking to an invisible person) is that just because I'm a new player to mass effect, I cant romance certain characters. This pisses me off sooo bad. I was planning on getting me1 and 2 later and playing them, but now I dont think I will, because that's what they want me to do. They want me to buy them so I can romance the character in the second one, and THEN replay 3 so I can continue it. Ugh, I'm so pissed about it. It couldnt have been that hard to have those characters available for new romances.
I personally think 3 was the best in the series, despite the ending(s)...Hacket out.
@CapsulesnCoffee
1 was by far the best by an order of magnitude. 2 was dumbed down for the console kiddies controllers, reduced powers, reduced options, wasted skill points if you got left with 3, unified cool downs, mind numbing mining over repetitive exploring, forced to work for Cerberus over the council. All bad design choices that turned a freedomish RPG shooted in to a "land here, walk only here, take cover or die, kill everything" - reapeat.
2 was letdown after 1 but playable, and 3 was a letdown after 2.
One thing. in the kill all reapers ending, he does survive. You seem his chest move at the end.
I found something of interest to people worried about the ending. It certainly made me feel better, at least. I'll just leave it here...
Okay, first of all... if it's too dark ADJUST YOUR SETTINGS. Whether it's your tv or the game settings itself, it doesn't have to be that bad dude. The jumping thing shows up in all video games without the ability to jump. The multiplayer is awesome, and while it does HELP the single player game, it's not necessary. It is still possible to get their "best" possible ending without ever touching it. The integration of the single player and multiplayer actually made story sense, unlike most games that shoe horn in MP. I was worried about it when they first announced it, but it's a lot of fun, and will keep me playing the game long after my Insanity run through is over.
In regards to your ME2 comment about loyalty....Loyalty equals survival because the nature of the loyalty missions worked out their past issues to enable to them to give you their full attention for the suicide mission. Not only that, after their loyalty missions, they respect you more and fight much harder because of it.
So, about the deaths, there are ways to prevent most of those (Miranda and Tali both live if you play the game right for example) But even if there wasn't, I'm personally a believer in the Whedon method of story telling. Too many movies, tv shows, and video games play it safe, never killing off main characters, and with a struggle as epic as the one portrayed in the Mass Effect trilogy, specifically the third installment, it's just not realistic to believe people won't die. You feel sad after leveling someone up in the past games and now they're dead? GOOD, that's the point! Feeling sad about something isn't a bad thing!
In regards to the kid, I get that you were making a joke...but you can't kill the kid that DIES in the first scene anyways! Again, I get that it was a joke, but still....
If you're going to write an article on a game, make sure that you've not only played it, but have thought it through as well....
I haven't finished the game yet, so I avoided reading the ones with spoilers. But complaining that the game is too dark is lame. It seemed too dark to me too, so I went into the options screen and brightened it up. How is it a problem if it's totally fixable?
And the explanation for the DLC is that the game was done and in testing for a few months before it was released, so the team had some time on their hands, so they made the DLC. I can't vouch for whether that's true or not, but it seems reasonable.
The ending... dear god, the ending. Made me feel like I just watched someone throw a box full of puppies into a woodchopper after I named every single one. The plot holes, the blatant ooc behavior of my Shep, and then getting railroaded into a *everyone you know is fucked no matter what* decision by that fucking StarChild...
The only thing missing was the Trololo song playing over the ending credits.
I haven't played a Bioware game since they stopped making D&D games. (man those were awesome) and when I want to shoot aliens in the head there is always Halo: Flavor of the Month. I don't think I missed much. Actually... I'm going to go install a Baldur's Gate or Planescape: Torment right now.
Awesome! Hopefully they won't completely redo it ala NWN to NWN2; that shit had the most infuriating user interface.
I dont see the fuss of the daay one DLC in this instance. it came with the collectors edition and it sold out. I could not get the collectors edition even though i wanted it. I appreciate the dlc option. I paid $20 less for the basic version and I dont mind paying $10 for te expansion that came with the collectors edition. If it didnt come with the collectors edition i might have been upset, but at least i can get it even though i couldnt get the collectors edition.
"Look, I know DLC is an inescapable part of videogame life now" --- " Look, I know DLC is an inescapable part of consolers life now" - There were legal ways to get the DLC for free on the PC. This game was still garbage even free.
have to admit this list seems to prove that when it came to wrap up the mass effect story the creators seemed to be oh what ever its done. including having the reapers leader be nothing but a boy.
The DLC bitching needs to stop. Seriously. Grow up. What they are offering wasn't on the disc. What it adds is of great value and makes the overall game better, and yet, is not necessary so that those who chose not to get it aren't screwed. Whine all you want that it should have been included, but it wasn't, and I don't care. I bought it and loved it, and would recommend it to anyone who loves the franchise.
And the multiplayer is not needed for single player. Get enough war assets, and the best ending is yours anyway. Multiplayer just makes it easier to obtain. Plus, the multiplayer in this is stupidly addictive, and I hate online multiplayer. Turns out, co op > competitive.
DLC in principle is a culturally disgusting practice and it limits the growth of video games as a medium. Cutting out parts of the story and game changes the experience for many people just because they want to hang another price tag over something they know people will want to see.
The practice was done beter when companies made the effort to release expansion packs instead of feeding the public's need for instant gratification.
In principle, paying $9 for DLC is much better than paying $30 for an expansion disc with the same product, or paying $50 for a "new" game that's the old one with a couple of new characters. But in practice, some people really become thieves with DLC.
