So no more Shenmues or Houses of the Dead. So long to Bayonetta, Phantasy Star, Golden Axe, and Jet Set Radio (which may no longer be coming to Xbox Live and PSN now). Goodbye to Panzer Dragoon, Virtua Fighter, Rez, Space Channel 5, and so much more.
I'm sure Sega can employ about 20 people and churn out a couple of shitty Sonic games per year and survive, but the Sega we knew and grew up with is effectively dead. Incidentally, I find it more likely that Nintendo will buy up Sega purely for the Sonic rights, and shut down everything else by 2013. Still, thank you, Sega. You may have been a ton of terrible decisions and games, but you gave me the Dreamcast and the original home port of Soul Calibur, and for that, I will always be grateful to you.
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surprised to see segathat has been beaten in the vidoe game market so bad its still making games when thougt it went out of buisness a long time ago
Um...
Bayonetta was developed by Platinum Games, and they still exist. Same with Vanquish. Shenmue is never getting a new installment, along with Panzer Dragoon, because those development teams died a long time ago. Plus, a decent amount of those IPs you listed are developed by Sega Japan, no? Only Sonic is pretty much Sega of America's go-to franchise, but even then Japanese teams were developing those.
Finally, my childhood nerdery will be vinidcated once the evil saga empire desolves!! go nintendo for no other reason than thats what i had as a kid!!!
"I'm sure Sega can employ about 20 people and churn out a couple of shitty Sonic games per year and survive, but the Sega we knew and grew up with is effectively dead."
Sega has been dead for 11 years now.
It died whe it stopped doing hardware.
Sega, like Commodore and Atari, was about independence, making your own hardware and and (in the case of the consoles) your own games if need be. Take that away and they're just another software makers, a dime a dozen.
For anyone who cares/cared about Phantasy Star or PSO or anything like that...The press release stated a more 'digital focus' for Sega's non "top 4" properties -- of which PSO2 was not mentioned. However, PSO2 will be digitally delivered, for free, to any PC when it releases in the summer.
So for Phantasy Star, if they keep it to digital stuff, you've still got hope & coolness on the way. The game was nearly done (its in beta now) by the time they said that, so it's not getting canned. pso-world.com has more details than can be included in a post. So the whole 'this doesn't apply to digital delivery items' is a hopeful thing for people who still wanted properties not in the big4.
Uh, have you played recent Sonic games past 06? They have gotten better.
Hell, Sonic Generations is equal to Sonic Adventure 2. It would have surpassed it had it not been for the lame final boss fight.
You're going to be waiting a LONG time for any of Sega's IPs to get put into the public domain. Hell, their retrogames collections are probably their biggest revenue source now.
Can't wait to more of their properties go GNU/public domain. Sega was OK when I was a kid but the fan made games that came after made them better.
But... Rob I need my Jet Set Radio. I NEED MY GOD DAMN JET SET RADIO ROB!
And... and what will happen to my dream of playing of one day playing Dragon Force again?!
Please don't hurt me like this.
All I know is that Sega made a kick ass Star Trek arcade game back in the 1980's that I played the hell out off: http://sega.wikia.com/wiki/Sta...
I wish Sega would update this and put it on one of the curent game systems.
This is the thing that gets my grill a whole damn lot: four? Really?! After all those damn franchises that you nitwits produced over the years, you can only come up with four viable titles? Really, Sega? Really?!
What about Golden Axe, huh? Remember that? What about Shinobi? Oooh, that slipped your minds, didn't it? How about "Shining" series, that despite of the disastrous results of Shining Force EXA, people were still excited enough to give it a whirl out of good faith from previous titles?
My suspicion is this: there is a mole in Sega planted by Nintendo from back when the 90s Console Wars were still raging to sabotage everything, and he's still not aware that the war is over.
I kinda hope this is the eventual fate of Nintendo, purely because I'm sick to death of all things Mario and Zelda.
Oh, look! Another Nintendo console, another version of Mario Kart. Wheeeeee!
Here's the big difference: Sega's been chasing that first level of the original Sonic game for 20 years now. They haven't come close since. In the meantime, Nintendo's put out Mario World, 64, both Galaxies, all the RPGs, and NSMB. They've successfully stretched their brand, whereas anytime Sega tries that we get furry fanfic fodder and fishing minigames.
I'm sick of both of them. It's time for some new blood. If there's never another Mario game made, I'll be fine with that.
As a Sonic fan I'd like Nintendo to buy the hedgehog rights and make some decent games.
I wouldn't say Sega is almost dead exactly, but it sounds like they're pulling back mainly in the west. Either way, even though I was a Nintendo fan-boy back in the day I'll miss Sega, and remember them how they used to be... back in the 90s at least.
You say Sega isn't dead, yet this is exactly what Hudson did before they died off?
Ok, man. have fun in denial.
I'm not in denial, I'm just saying dead is "completely shut down", and obviously this news on it's own doesn't mention anything happening to them in Japan, at the moment. Will something happen? Almost certainly. But this news taken on its own doesn't speak of an actual 'death'. If more evidence mounts, I'm certainly not going to be in any form of denial; if Sega dies off, they dug their own grave with their constant poor choices and I'm not going to have a heck of a lot of sympathy.
The Total War series is a massive seller. I'm talking MILLIONS of copies long after release day. Just last week, Creative Assembly revealed Empire: Total War sells as many copies now as it did a year ago.
For the first time in around 13 years, the thought of "SEGA!" burst into my mind. Apparently my brain is a TV still tuned to the late 90s.
Not that it's easy to find arcades anymore, but does this mean no more Initial D Arcade Stage?? Sooo much money invested in that game.
I don't know if I want to live in a world in which there won't be any more Bayonetta.
Perhaps Suda51 will throw an homage to the character with an alternate costume in his upcoming game? That said, I'll admit that I was left a bit cold by Sega's recent output, especially since they ditched a lot of the interesting work that resulted in things like Panzer Dragoon Orta and Rez. I think the last thing I played from Sega that I thought was good, as opposed to alright, was Valkyria Chronicles, the clunkiness of the Darksen plot aside. I suppose that the company's demise now is going to prove all of those people who saw the writing on the wall way back when the Dreamcast died an unceremonious death; but that was also the point where I got burned by the company for the first time when I could never get online to play Phantasy Star Online, especially when I was sent a supposedly new copy and found out that the key was already registered. I gave up and just got a PS2 after that annoyance.
I'm highly skeptical that Sega of America has ever really been a source of good games. Look what happened when Sonic Team let them try to do a Sonic on their own.
Oh you mean Sonic 2 and Sonic and Knuckles, and all of the other great classic Sega games that were actually made in America and overseen by visiting Japanese teams by Sega Technical Institute of America?
A fool is you.
...They produced GOOD sonic games that people liked more then what Japan had produced in the last couple of years? They understood what was dragging the franchise down and began to exclude that stuff in the games? What bad things did they do while they were in charge of Sonic?
I do actually. Two was easily my favorite Sonic. Also only the first game was developed by a Japanese staff from the four you listed.
But I was referring to the recent change in production staff.
Colors and Generation were written and planned by Americans. Both games are agreed to be vastly superior to anything Japan had worked on with the franchise over the last few years. The friends were booted and regulated to secondary status, and Sonic wasn't anywhere near as bland in either games. The games focused on SONIC and making Sonic play well rather then splitting the game into like 3 or 4 unfocused directions like the last few Japanese produced games were. Bringing SEGA of America in on production was easily the best thing they've done from the franchise in years.
Which studio made Generations? As that was a solid game, save for those bloody Sonic Colors stages which are nigh-impossible to time trial.
Those two stick out as being among the few challenges I have yet to beat.
I was a pudgy kid in school, which meant that other kids would pick any reason to bully and harass me. One of them was that I owned a NES. When Sonic the Hedgehog made its appearance, Sega was 'in'. One of the guys in school, a tall black kid who was far stronger than me, caught me on the way home from school and beat me into a bloodied pulp. He broke my nose in two places and cracked three of my teeth. I asked him why at one point, he just grabbed my hair and whispered "Sega, bitch" into my ear. Yeah, forgive me if I don't shed any tears over this news.
Black, white, tall, short, brunet, blonde... all simple words of description. The prejudices can only be implied, and usually by other people looking to call someone a racist. Perhaps because the black kid was larger, we can assume that the original poster has a hatred for people in better shape then him? What would we call that? A physically-fit-ist? Furthermore, perhaps the ‘black’ kid also picked on him because his color was NOT black? That’s right, just because you are a visible minority doesn’t mean you can’t be a racist. Anyone who has grown up in a mixed community will know that racism is definitely a many way street! Your guilt or innocence in regards to being a racist is not determined by your race. And I will write nothing further on this subject as I am sick and fucking god damned tired of this whole race issue. This is supposed to be a place for nerd stuff. I’ll go to Fox news or CNN for my daily dose of racial tension idiocy.
** Shakes fist at sky **"SEEEEGAAAA!!!"
** Spits out tooth **"TAAALLLL BLAAACK KIIIID!!!!!""""
Wait, describing a fact, such as my assailant was black, white or brown, is hardly as perjorative as saying my assailant was a nigger/honkey/spic. I don't think you will get very far with describing an assailant as a human male, to the police. See how far "he looka like a man" gets you. That being said, I will gladly admit that I am bigoted. I hate bigots. WTF? I'm human. I think. Thank goodness for hypocrisy, otherwise i'd hate myself too.
Thanks for looking for racism in a common descriptive adjective used in a neutral declarative!The connotation is yours, not implied.
Look for racism and you will find it.My balls your chin.neen-neer neen-neer boo-boo.
For a Nihilist you certainly have a lot of beliefs.Shame you don't have a marmot.Keep stroking your own ego though champ.Also, eat a dick.Cheers!
I love it when retards use large words they don't understand in an attempt to sound "sophistomacated."
Also, you're what, twelve?
Your amazing hypocrisy and incredibly insane, broken logic is incredible.
You're so dedicated to defending your idiotic statement that you keep on making it so hilariously worse, with every simperingly stupid statement you continue to make.
Stupid people like you are amazingly entertaining.
Yes, because the fact that someone is black totally warrents a common descriptive adjective having to be pointed out specifically, as if it somehow wasn't common and actually important, right?
Yeah, you kinda need to shut the fuck up, now.
That is, unless you LIKE shoving your foot further down your own throat. Hell, if you want to continue to entertain us with your idiocy, that would be great.
No one suggested anything, implicit or otherwise, about the OP's race. The assumption that he's white is something you've apparently concocted all on your own. You do know that white people aren't the only ones capable of racism, right?
Obviously it was an artistic tie to the color of the console. If the bully was a SNES fan, he would've been grey with blue highlights.
Right?
Ok, maybe not. I tried though.
Actually I read it as a construed fiction made for specific comedic effect. Note the punchline. If it was a true story, and the kid he was attacked was stereotypically white I'd expect and addendum along the lines of, "...and then my parents sued his family so hard his grand kids felt the poverty." Of course automatically assuming because the writer didn't declare his own race outright he must be Caucasian. Yay, double standards!Ain't racism grand.
Oh it is implied. Do you think he would have said tall blonde kid. Or tall kid with brown shoes? Or tall kid with acne. No, he specifically mentioned the color of the kid's skin as if that were supposed to be significant.


