Mind = Blown. Thanks for posting that. I think half the people commenting on here didn't watch the video. George didn't claim to create Sandman, this vid just shows how he's partly responsible for Sandman being made. Which is heavily implied by Gaiman himself in the vid. Wild Cards was great, for a while...
Definition of CREATION:
1 : the act of creating; especially : the act of bringing the world into ordered existence
2 : the act of making, inventing, or producing: as
a : the act of investing with a new rank or office
b : the first representation of a dramatic role
3 : something that is created: as
a : world
b : creatures singly or in aggregate
c : an original work of art
d : a new usually striking article of clothing
As opposed to "sort of heard of once."
I won't be surprised if his next claim is that he invented the Missionary Position.GET IT? GET IT? Because he's OLD!
Ah. I was beginning to wonder when Martin was gonna dive off the L train into crazy town.
Yeah, might wanna fix that description. At no point do either Martin or Neil imply that he had anything at all to do with Sandman.
@ActualButt Actually, Gaiman admitted years ago that he borrowed some ideas from Wild Cards. Certainly not to point this kind of accusation.
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I'm pretty sure Rob just means that, if Martin had said yes, Sandman wouldn't have happened. He created the opportunity for Sandman to exist.
@ActualButt Well, if Martin had accepted Gaiman's offer of the character, Gaiman would have written it and gotten that idea out of his system and moved on to something else. Since he didn't write it then, the idea continued to grow in his mind until he was offered the chance to turn it into a comic book. I agree that "essentially created" is a bit of an exaggeration, but it was supposed to be. It was a rhetorical hook to get you to watch the video.
@JeffJefftyJeff You can't make that assumption. My point above is that if a character similar to Morpheus was used in Wild Cards, Gaiman still would have had all those other aspects of the greater Sandman narrative knocking around in his head. When you really look at it, Morpheus is not all that important to the events of that story. The Hall family, Hector, Lyta and Daniel are much more integral. Ideas like Lucifer giving up the key to Hell, the Corinthian, Dr. Destiny, The Endless, Loki, etc. could still have made for an excellent Vertigo comic. Even the name "Sandman" comes from the DC character. To sum up, as long as we got the idea of a serial killers convention somehow, I'm happy.
Also, Gaiman isn't shy about retreading old ideas in new ways. The similarities between American Gods and the Endless from Sandman are evidence of that.
TL,DR: You're dumb.
@ActualButt Exactly. The full extent of the comic never would have gotten a chance to form like it did if he had written it in 1987 as a Wild Cards book.
@JeffJefftyJeff Not necessarily. Gaiman says plainly in the video that he told Martin about an idea for a character that lives in dreams, which is just the tip of the tip of the iceberg that is Sandman. That sounds more like Freddy Kruger than Morpheus.
I've been rereading the Wild Card books again as they are redone. It has some additional scenes but it still holds up after 25 years. It's the first set of scifi novels I read.What a surprise, Alan Moore is a dick.
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I didn't hear either of them say Martin created Sandman. Quite the opposite; Gaiman essentially wanted to give Sandman to Martin, and Martin said no.
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