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Are you sick of the Anne Rice-for-sheltered-high school-girls vampire romance Twilight? You're not alone, because even Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart—who are pretty much notable only for being the fucking stars of Twilight—kind of hate it too. Here's what Ms. Stewart had to say about the legions of girls who crowded the film's set:
“I was like, ‘You guys are celebrating something that has not come true yet. So, you are really retarded and have nothing to do with this creative process and I really don’t want to hear you celebrate in front of me. Get out of here!"
But Pattinson, who also played the dead kid in the fourth Harry Potter movie, was much more succinct:
“When I read it, I was convinced Stephenie was convinced that she was Bella, and it was like a book that wasn’t supposed to be published. It was like reading her sexual fantasy, especially when she said it was based on a dream and it was like, ‘Oh I’ve had this dream about this really sexy guy,’ and she just writes this book about it. Like some things about Edward are so specific, I was just convinced, like, ‘This woman is mad. She’s completely mad and she’s in love with her own fictional creation.’ And sometimes you would feel uncomfortable reading this thing. It’s kind of a sick pleasure in a lot of ways.”
Very astute, Pattinson. Maybe I won't beat you for your obscene haircut you had in the Twilight promo during this week's Heroes (seriously, though, buy a goddamn comb or I will find you and kill you). As for Twilight, I happen to share the same thought as Big Daddy Drew, a contributor to the sports blog Deadspin (sorry; I'm a pro football fan, but I promise it's in a very nerdy way), who summed up Twilight as eloquently as you'd think a man calling himself Big Daddy on the internet would:
I can’t open a goddamn issue of Entertainment Weekly without hearing about these retarded books. Ooooh, a girl falls in love with a vampire! How new and unheard of! IT’S FORBIDDEN LOVE! Jesus. I liked this story much better the first time I heard it, when it was called “Every stupid fucking vampire story you’ve ever heard.”
Have a good weekend, guys, and I'll be back in regular TR form on Monday morning, when we can talk about how awesome/terrible the new Trek trailer looks. (Via Filmdrunk)
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To all you Twihards who are saying this is not true: I saw the interview on youtube where Robert Pattinson said the exact same thing that's writtien up there. If you don't believe me, see for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCmleIgAoag
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I have attempted to read the book and only got through eight chapters... before I just couldn't read anymore of it. The thing that bothers me most about the book are the characters. They seem empty, shallow, and one-dimensional (judging from what I have read of the book,) and I always look for well-developed characters blooming with personality in the books I read ;) I can respect Stepanie Meyer as a human being, but honestly, not as a writer. I've got nothing against the Twilight fans as long as they don't hate on me for having a different opinion than them (which they often do.) -_-
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Kristen Stewart really is an ungrateful bitch. As much as I don't like Twilight I kinda have to side with the fans on this one. Being mean to your fans and calling them derogatory names is kinda like wiping your ass with your paycheck.
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... I suddenly respect these actors again...
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@ meow hate to break it to you..but it IS very true..geez,talk about denial,just follow the link .)
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im not a fan of twilight, butt what this website is claiming the main stars have saidd is deffently not true. if this information was true it would be posted on 9 msn or a global site maybe even news.
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JESUS, this thing totally made my day. I'm so sick of Twilight, Twilight, Twilight, EVERYWHERE. My GOD, I love to read, really, seriously-- but it drives me INSANE when people are just like, "Hey, what's your hobby?" and I go "Oh, I like to read." and they go "I LOVE TWILIGHT!!" and I so "God fuck it, sorry to DISAPPOINT YOU, but I'm not a fan of shitty-written, unoriginal, boring, trashy romance-porn novels about VEGAN VAMPIRES versus NORMAL VAMPIRES and some idiot girl." What the HELL? I can't believe people are making such a big fuss over this shit. "Oh, Edward SPARKLES IN THE SUNLIGHT!!! How BEAUTIFUL I wish III had a sparkly vampire boyfriend!" Jesus! Save me from the hell that is Twilight! Speaking of that, could we have come up with a title a little more... original? By the way, Yaro, you are now my #1 favorite person of all time... I'm going to memorize everything you just said and rattle it off next time someone pulls the "Ooh, did you read Twilight!" thing on me. I RP too =] Jesus, I hate Twilight soooo much... -facepalm-
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Oh, the Twihards have a standard arsenal that they never use anything outside of. Here's a list of the crap they'll say (Followed by my mockery of these in parenthesis.): 1. If you don't like it, don't read it. (If I don't read it, how the hell am I supposed to know if I like it or don't like it.) 2. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. (Certainly! Practice what you preach before you flame me for stating the opinion I am entitled to. Also remember that everyone is entitled to their opinion of your opinion. In this case, it is my opinion that your opinion sucks if you think Twilight is good. Deal with it.) 3. OMG HOW CAN U HAET TEH TWILITE! BELLAEDWARD4EVA! (To sum up, a lot of Twilight diehards seem to avoid grammar, spelling, punctuation, and correct capitalization rules. It's hard to even take their arguments seriously when they do this, and it reflects the ideal literacy level of the people who actually enjoy these lousy books. I lump even hostile flames in here.) 4. Stephen King is just jealous. (Ha ha ha! Excuse me while I spit out my gum so I don't choke on it laughing at the stupidity of that argument! Okay, background here, when asked about Stephanie Meyer and the Twilight books, Stephen King had little friendly things about her. He said the books were bad, and that Ms. Meyer could not write by any means. When this was published by the media... good gravy, the mindless personal attacks on Mr. King flowed. However, my response to this argument is helpless laughter followed by: You honestly think that STEPHEN KING, successful bestseller of hundreds of books, most of which got made into movies (Many of which considered the greatest in history, like the Shawshank Redemption.), who is swimming in book deals and is considered an author of millions of rungs over Stephanie Meyer in the "ranks" of authors is suddenly jealous? Reality check, Twihards, in a nutshell: Stephen King, is maybe about 5,000,000% more successful an author and writer than Stephanie Meyer. There's nothing to be jealous of for him towards her.) 5. It's meant for a young age group. (Yes, and I'm appalled because it is. You think I'd like to see the next generation of men thinking it's okay to be a borderline sociopath showing emotional abusive behavior to their female companions? You think I want to see the next generation of WOMEN thinking emotionally abusive behavior directed towards them is normal and acceptable? NO! Actually, I'm appalled at ADULTS who think they're good books.) 6. It's just Stephanie Meyer's fantasy. (Okay. So why couldn't they have just STAYED her fantasy? I RP as a pastime. That means I experience good and bad character designs. The two leads in the Twilight books are the biggest Mary Sues I have ever seen. I would compare it to fanfiction, but I think a lot of FANFICTION is better than this tripe (Go read "Chronicles of the Pridelands" or "Cycle of Ages." You're welcome.). I frankly don't like it that what can only be summed up as a fat single Mormon woman's wet dream sex fantasy is being published and is actually a commercial success.) 7. But they're such good books. (Again, a matter of opinion, one I strongly disagree with and also add: Anyone who actually thinks these are good books has probably never once picked up any decent literature in their lives. I'm a fan of Frank Herbert's Dune. THAT is a good book because the characters have depth, the plot is intricate and complex, and the writer was actually EDUCATED in writing. Reading Ms. Meyer's books betrays a lack of decent writing education. On top of that, it opened the door for five other books as an epic that spanned several thousand years!) 8. It's original. (I'll grant the idiotic sparkling vampires thing was "original," though moronically to the point of almost raping the normal vampire mythos, but nothing else about Twilight is original. Vampire in love with human? Done before long before Ms. Meyer did it. Vampires unwilling to prey on humans? Check. A history of werewolf/vampire conflict? Check. But please, lets not give Twilight credit for being original. It's no more an innovative book than Windows or Mac OS are innovative system distributions.) 9. It's better than Harry Potter. (While HP is far from the best book series, I actually found Harry Potter to be an excellent storyline. Largely because Rowling actually designed the characters to grow on you, the plot was good, and it reached actual depth. Stephanie Meyer putting page after page of filler to hide the fact her books lack a decent plot is not good writing.) 10. But it sold so many copies! (Quantity DOES NOT EQUAL quality. All quantity means is popularity. And as you could judge with the Stephen King argument, Twilight is not even THAT popular.) Now, if I were asked what vampire stories I like, I'd say, naturally, Bram Stoker's classic: Dracula. But if I had to choose movies, I'd say the Underworld trilogy is pretty good. They're violent and gory, but frankly, a serious vampire story needs to be dark. It's a gothic storyline. Baseball-playing vegetarian sissy emotionally abusive vampires is not dark or gothic. It's just appalling.
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Am I the only one amused at the fact that one of the most used assumptions the Twilight fans make about people who criticize is "you didn't read the books", even when they rattle off a list of major 'plot' (snerk) points? Please people, actually read the comments you're lashing out against if you're going to do so. As for me, I've been spoiled enough by fans themselves, and even with their rose tinted perception of the characters and 'plot' I've come to the conclusion that Bella is a sue, Edward is a creeper, Jacob is a poor sap who's characterization ends up on Meyer's hitlist just so that the main romance can 'work', etc.
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and just to add i am a year older as LOLTWILIGHT's younger sister and i absolutely hate it....just to point out that not every teen girl is obbsessed with the supposed 'fitty' (as if) robert patterson
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god.... when the books came out a while before the films i was ok and read them....i liked them! though the film then came out and there was like millions of girls at school absolutely obbsessed.....i mean they even started buying twilight lovehearts (you know the ones that came out in america (god there tacky)) and then it was EVERYWHERE it was so fuckin annoyin so i would like it if every damned person wasnt so obbsessed!
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Yeah, I work in a bookstore. I'm sick of middle schoolers running in and squealing at the Twilight merch.
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I heard that Pattison almost got hit by a car trying to escape from Twilight fans. When the fans literally almost kill the actor because of their rabid fandom, it's out of hand. More than out of hand. I have a 12 year old sister who, a while ago, would go into her room with her friends, shut the door, and all I would her is "OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGEDWARDBELLAWOWOWOWOWOWOILUVTWIGLIGHTLOLOLOL" for about, I don't know, AN HOUR. If you've ever heard a group of tweens scream, you know it is the worst sound in the universe. She would also talk to herself while reading the book, which was scary itself. All in all, I think Twilight has indoctrinated my sister with a love for vampires so high that she can't think of anything else. All she reads is dark, vampire poop nowadays, and she even bit me on the neck one day. WTF
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@Jeice I hate twilight, its a shit book with fans receive the vapors frequently whilst reading. But i hate elves more. HATE. now that you pointed that out i just went into rage overdrive.
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never read the books, saw the movie, or have any interest. i am commenting only in defense of anne rice. she is a GOOD writer. she took vampires, which only ever represented one thing, that is an affront to decency and put a new twist on it. SHE was original and her books became bestsellers by the quality of her writing. how can you honestly hold her responsible for the dumbing down of vampires? was vampire fiction an honored intellectual pursuit before she came along? in short, hate the posers, like twilight and its mirror images. but at least give anne rice a little credit, because credit is due. also, there is NO romance what so ever in Dracula. Its an amazing book for sure, but try reading it before you mark it as the standard of how vampire romance is done. its simply not there. ok, you may tear me apart now : )
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well. after reading numerous comments. i'm going to put in my input about the actual site. haha. i think it was wrong of Kristen and Robert to diss their own fans like that. There are kids that look up to them, and they're at a very impressionable age. Can you imagine how they'd feel if they figured out that Robert and Kristen hate what they're doing and only do it for the money? You can call me trash or whatever for reading these books, but I really liked the first one. But I've also read some great literature that I'm sure some of these fan girls would never even think of reading. Well, anyways, after the first one, they sort of got trashy. And I started hating them. I saw the movie and I hated it, too. They're just very badly written. And after a while, it seemed like Stephenie just got lazy and wrote for the money. That's my opinion.
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After examining the "vampires" in twilight, I have discovered that they are in fact Elves. Think about it.
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The fact of the matter is Meyer's 'vampires' aren't really vampires at all - really by name only. They follow next to none of the original traits followed by vampires (although these are often changed, it's unusual to change every fucking one of them.) She should have just made up her own name for them and saved everyone the trouble of trying to grasp why the characters sparkle in the sunlight. And I don't care what anybody says - just because he looks 17 does not mean that a guy her great grandfathers age should be doing her. It's still weird.
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Yeah, I read it. I hated it. I don't blame the actors for doing a movie they don't enjoy. Actors, especially young ones, don't always get to pick and choose what movies they get to do. If I am not mistaken, often you see contracts between high-level actors and studios forcing actors to do a certain number of films in a certain period. These two incite a decent teeny-bopper following, so it would only make sense to have teeny-bopper-magnet actors do a teeny-bopper-magnet movie. From a marketing standpoint it makes perfect sense. It's not like the actors can snub the studios oh so easily. I've been trying to avoid getting into the twilight fiasco, mostly for fear of retaliation from the rabid fans. Too often I've seen people torn apart from disastrously structured arguments filled with straw men and logic faults the likes of which the grand canyon would be envious of. Not to mention, ReAlLy BaD CaPiTaLiZaTiOn HaBiTs!!!!!!1111!eleven... -_-. I didn't want a piece of it until now. The book sucked. The characters were flat, the plot was bare thin, and the language had me wanting to hand the author a thesaurus. I'd have to say that the characters had me ripping out my hair the most. It is the most unrealistic, unhealthy portrayal of social interaction I've ever seen. If I were to climb up a tree and watch my girlfriend sleep from outside my window, I'd be arrested as a peeping tom, and rightfully so - not to mention being tagged as quite a creeper - again, rightfully so. You know that if these two were real people, you'd see Bella in a battered woman's shelter with track marks on her arms, bags under her eyes, bruised and beaten within 2 years. It's just sad. I'm no feminist (I'm a believe in sexual equality, and experience has lead me to believe that feminism doesn't always strive for that) but despite that, this book makes me want to vomit on a feminist basis. Now my biggest problem is the rabid fanbase. I've gotten into seemingly friendly debates about this book series. Many have been civil, but several have been vile. I've been shouted at, screamed at, and even had something thrown at me. "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T READ IT!"... How the hell am I supposed to know if I like it if I don't read it? Am I supposed to put my hand on the book and divine if its enjoyable or not? "LEAVE MEYERS ALONE!". I think it's understandable doesn't a creative person doesn't take criticism well. It is a shame because people should always been open to ways to improve their work, but its still understandable. No one wants to see their work torn apart. However, if a fan of an author, not a close friend or family member, but just a fan, takes this massive umbrage on behalf of this person that they decide to throw something at me? Something is a little off. In closing: the book sucked, and people need to stop taking it so seriously.
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I read all four books, and it took a *lot* of effort to finish them. My sister kept bugging me to read them, she loves the series, so I caved in and read them. The first book was so-so, I honestly expected a lot more. I fell asleep *so many times* while reading her books. The writing itself is awful. The story just drags out, with so much filler that I want to slap her editor. And as stated earlier in the comments, the story itself is a twisted example of what a relationship should be. I've read it, and can honestly say my experience sucked. It's time in my life I'll never get back. I don't even have anything against vampire fiction or the romantic aspect. I really like Charlaine Harris' Sookie Stackhouse novels. But, her writing keeps me engaged. It has a storyline I can follow that keeps me guessing. It has deep character development and a main character that has redeeming qualities. All of which the Twilight series lack.
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The actors might hate Twilight, but I'm sure they love the money they're making from it.
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First of all: I love vampires. I've loved vampires since I was a kid watching Dark Shadows on Wednesday nights; it was the only night I was allowed to stay up late, and that's the reason why. I do believe that Anne Rice has horribly dumbed down the vampires, as we know it. I also believe that if a writer is talented, they could even take the plot that Stephanie had in mind, and make it semi-decent. Sure, you'd have a stereotypical 'pretty' vampire, but that's not the point, in my opinion. The problem I have is that a) Stephanie's writing skills are terrible(the book was rejecting 14 times before finally being published*) and b), the light in which she paints Bella and Edward's relationship is ..frightening. There's a lot of blind subservience going on there that, in my book, is a little scary and something young girls shouldn't just be gobbling up. In short, it's poor literature. Plain and simple. *http://movies.about.com/od/twilight/a/stephenie-meyer_3.htm
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@Kasey "Not her fault she had a dream and wrote the story" Really, whose was it? And surely, because it was written for herself, that means it would be adult literature not based at teen girls? Just wondering
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@ Kasey It was more like Stephanie Meyer had a wet dream and wrote a story about it. I've read the books and seen the movie. I don't think it's worthy literature, and I don't care if you care about what I think or not. I feel like it's the dumbing down of more teenagers. I guess I'm glad that you're all finally reading, though I'm a bit disappointed it had to be Twilight.
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I really have to wonder...how hypocritical half of the people in these comments are. I mean, yes if you don't like it...so be it. Say so. Hate it. But I'm wondering...do they not like it because of the publicity, or because they tried reading the book and disliked it?? Don't lie. What makes it hypocritical...I bet everyone has asked at least one person to read/listen to/watch something and that person didn't want to. And if they said they hated it without watching or reading it...I bet everyone in these comments would talk about how horrible that person is. Something along the lines of "Why would they say how much they hate it if they didn't even try it?" If you don't like the books. WOOHOO! That's fantastic. The cast DO like the boos. Probably not the crazed fans, because I dislike the fans for how crazed they are...how they make every Twilight fan look like a freaking nutjob. If you don't want to read it, fine don't. But do not bash something you haven't read just because of it's fans. I only say this....because every time I ask someone "Have you read it?" when they say something about about ANYTHING that's popular they say.."No, but I know what it is and that's enough." COME ON. DONT BE SO FREAKING JUDGEMENTAL! This little article was a bit funny though. It is true that it was NOT intended for a book..she wanted to write it for herself. Her sister read it..and said it was very good, then it became huge. Not her fault she had a dream and wrote the story. People write.
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Lillith: You screamed obscenities about the undead baby? I LAUGHED. And laughed, and laughed, and barely managed to finish the book. Honestly, the first book was okay, but Bella's barely-there personality vanished sometime before the beginning of the second book. Originally my opinion was that Twilight was 'okay, for a first attempt, could have used a better editor, and should never have been compared to Harry Potter, as it was targeted to a completely different (far more brainless, girlier) audience.' But the books got worse, not better, as they went on, and the movie was terrible. I was converted from the this-might-be-okay camp to the twilight-is-mary-sue-fic camp very quickly. And that's what it is, by the way. Proper fanfic has characters, not empty vessels waiting to say whatever the author feels like. *coughBellacough*
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I read the first two books. Bella has all the spirit and backbone of a snail, her only character trait was extreme clumsiness. Edward was an abusive bastard who orders Bella around and when she does not instantly obey he physically picks her up and moves her several times. He justifies any of his negative behavior with "its only because I love you so much" ....The author has some serious issues.
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Myckey and Andreatheoneandonly I like the twilight series too and i agree she made them kinda interesting. But I do have to admit the first movie Twilight was lame bc they just stared at each other too much and it was over drown out. But the books after that one were good and not so much about staring at each other the whole time. And I do also admit, the sparkling vampire thing is lame, it should be something more cool. But I find these more interesting that Harry Potter, sorry.
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The Twilight series is the worst series of books every written. They're worse than the ending to Harry Potter. But I still enjoy reading them. They're a guilty pleasure for me, a very simple, quick and easy read that sadly does make me swoon a little bit.
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The only reason it is so overzealously loved is that Bella has absolutely no personality and is therefore the perfect vessel for teens that are starved for any kind of relationship. Romance is what life is about for girls at that age. And being a writer of fanfic I was actually offended by the remarks that it IS fanfic. Please don't insult us like that. I read a very interesting, and actually quite valid, blog somewhere which laid out exactly why Edward is an abusing jerk-wad and why this book is actually quite negative for teen girls to be reading. (I have read the books as part of a deal to get my Twilight obsessed best friend to read the Hitchhikers series. So, rabid fans, don't attack me.) As an example of Edwards abusive tendencies he watches her sleep every night from the day he meets her on. Another? He pushes her away, comes back, refuses to allow her to see her friend the werewolf... it goes on, really. Can I just ask someone, anyone, how in the world it is possible for the undead to have babies? Seriously. I hit that part and couldn't stop myself from screaming obscenities at the book.
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Lol I love these sites, all you guys hate Twilight so much you must search the web to find others like you, who hate it as well, hehe guess what as much as you guys hate on it its not gonna stop the thousands of us who love the books and before you say im stupid or I only read crappy novels and crap, don't you have no idea the other books I like to read. I personally love the books, and the movie was pretty cool in its own way, sorry we cant all be watching documentaries and reading Shakespeare all the time
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Wow. This really honestly made my day because this makes Robert Pattison and Kristen winners in my book.
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The actors come off as if they're doing a distasteful job. Like "I fucking hate this movie, but hey, the royalties will pay the rent/tuition/bills."
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*yawn* Nice crap making up.
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Well, I think it it fantastic. You lot have your own opinion. Anyway, I read a interview with Kristen Stewart and she said she adorded the book. So there.
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Lol when New Moon goes into theaters I'm gonna go JUST to see how funny the movie is. XD Yay for me being ANTI Twilight+Meyer. I'm probably going to get kicked out of the theater though XD Cause if I laughed at the Twilight movie when I watched it at home with a friend I will laugh at the New Moon movie. Now if only people would stop LIKING the god damn book D:< You can't go ONE DAY without seeing something twilight.
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Seriously over romanticized. She took everything "dark" about vampires and whitewashed it. I had high hopes, despite the heavy romance based plot, but when Edward took her up to the mountains to reveal what he really looked like... I was thinking: cool, have him step in the light and be a hideous monster.................But he F'ing SPARKLED! Sad, just sad.
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This is my response to the movie and book: I swear, if I hear another person say "I went to the midnight showing of Twilight!" I'm gonna punch them in the face!! Those that care went too, and those that didn't go don't give a fuck. I am sick of seeing Twilight everywhere I go. Even something like stop & shop is contaminated. What the hell! Twilight is a piece of shit from start to end, and I know that without reading the book or watching the movie.
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@ET: While Mormons do get an undeserved bad rap for many things, that's not the legitimate point some people are trying to make when pointing out the author's religion. Think about it. Having said what you just said about Mormons, would you count on a Mormon to create a book with any edgy material in it whatsoever? Whether it be violence OR sex? For a book to properly be about vampires, you at least need a large dose of the former.
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Uh, not to put stock in either side, but I really don't think it really matters. Because Stephanie Meyer is crying all the way to the bank. And this Mormon dissing is just lame. All the Mormons I know are awesome, friendly, happy people and I think all this crap about them is just stupid. No offense intended. That's just my own opinion.
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@Myckey As others have said, Meyer did not do anything new with vampires. If anything, she completely ignored what they are and why they are like that. As Pattinson said, the woman had a dream about this "sexy guy". Then she made him a vampire and there was her story. What I especially didn't like in the book was that Edward controlled her every move, more or less used her weaknesses. This is not romance, this is an unhealthy relationship brought upon by lust. Now, if it was plainly stated as lust and Meyer went with that, the books might be half decent. But no, Bella is in love with him for whatever reason and Edward has made her his life. But why? We never learn WHY. They never have one conversation that has nothing to do with who/what he is. And that's the main problem with the book. I've read better fanfic than Meyer's book(s). And I understand that you enjoy Twilight, but I cannot believe you feel it to be just as good as Harry Potter having read that series a few times. HP has many plots, characters with depth, and well... a point. Twilight has none of that. Making vampires sparkle is not doing something original with them. It's a trait that makes no sense, that's all it is. And as far as a vampire being a veg - fighting its natural tendencies? Definitely not new material.
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Chelsea Quinn Yarbo. Count Saint-Germain FTW.
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as i told a friend of mine, anne rice is responsible for the pussification of vampires. there hasn't been any hardcore vampire film (30 days of night excluded) since interview with a vampire. twilight will put that nail into the genre for a long time just like batman & robin did to comic movies. put the blood back in bloodsucker.
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when the one supporter of the books that commented admits that "most of the Fan girls and fan boys...can admit that some parts in the book really suck." you know theres something amiss.
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Oh, wait, maybe I did lump these books into the necro porn pile. Oops. Oh well, just goes to show my hatred for those things.
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@Myckey: Sorry for the confusion. Never said that whatshername who wrote the books was making necro porn. I was stating that the others I listed earlier did. No offense was intended to you personally. You like the books, that's fine. Honestly, I'm not going to insult you for it. I will, however, insult the books. You wish to argue that point, I'll happily argue with you all day long, since I love to argue. Far as Hamilton et al, I hate the fact that the only reason their books count as novels is because they fill it with smut. Wouldn't matter to me if it was human/human smut, vamp/human smut, whatever/whatever smut. It's still just filler and usually doesn't enhance the story. And if Hamilton ever tries anything serious (see Death of a Darklord) it's crap. Then again, I think all her stuff is crap, so my opinion might be biased.
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Hey Rob, You don't have to defend your love of professional Gridiron Football. I'm sitting here catching up on today's nerd news as I get ready to watch Cleveland at Buffalo on MNF. Do we really have to make a choice between the 2?
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Don't get me wrong....I like vampires. I enjoy porn. I like reading (well written) smut. It's good for the soul. Sometimes... if I'm so inclined, I enjoy them together. Sorry to disappoint the anti vamp-smutters out there...but this book doesn't touch Hamilton's...ummm...."zeal". It is, however, a terrible book. My mother wants me to see the movie with her when it comes out...so I attempted the book first. I know...it's a mistake to read the book before the movie. (You'd think I'd have learned my lesson with Starship Troopers.) Still, I like to know what I'm getting into. If you want to diss the book...do it because it's awful. Not because it's about vamp-on-human-rubbing... really... there isn't any to be found. After all, it's meant for teenie boppers & written by a Mormon to boot. As for you previously mentioned enamored teens... If you like it, more power to you. Personally, I think it was poorly written. The main character was weak, weepy, & stupid. I'm still trying to figure out how a female author can manage to seem like bit of a misogynist...but oh well. Either way, hate it, because it sucks. Not because somebody (miraculously) got their fandom turned into a movie. =P
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Seeing as you're 15, I guess you'd prefer SEEMING smart over BEING smart, but oh dear sweet Christ, you are missing the point.
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Vegetarian = DOES NOT EAT MEMBERS OF THE KINGDOM ANIMALIA. "Vegetarian" vampires who suck animal blood instead of human: DOING IT WRONG. I have one friend who legitimately (albeit not rabidly) loves these books, one who read the first and was completely nonplussed, and six or seven who've read them and now launch into disgusted, fevered rants whenever they're mentioned. I thought about reading them before making any assumptions, but seriously, I just have better things to do. Honestly, I don't think I could have gotten past the sparkling.
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Isn't Bunnicula a "veggie vampire"? LOL
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Attempted vegetarian vampires are nothing new, I'll have you know. Pick up some Anne Rice please. If not, some Tanya Huff will do.
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Oh, snap. The 15 year old girl is here to tell us all about interesting takes on vampires. Insert rolling eyes here.
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Okay, Here we go... 1. I'm 15, so I can fairly judge the book seeing as I'm Stephanie M's targeted audience. I'M NOT A GROWN WOMAN. 2.Addison, I never said that those to idea's where interesting, just different from the millions of other vampire books out there. So next time could you please TRY and read what I typed before responding. I know it's hard but if you want to SEEM smart you should try your best. Kay?
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Oh My God; a monster trying to resist its natural state of being?!?!? AND IT SPARKLES!?!? i can see how that second part is very interesting...
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I haven't read the books and have no interest in seeing the movie, but I have to argue that not all vampire novels are unoriginal drivel. Anyone who has read Charlie Huston's Joe Pitt Casebooks would know that.
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@Myckey: Vampires are cliche as all get out. It's not impossible to do something interesting with them, but Stephenie Meyer has failed to do so on every level other than unintentional hilarity. I really hope you're not a grown woman (As no grown man would ever enjoy this doggerel).
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Okay, F**k. You proved me wrong whatever, I'm not gonna be a sore loser. But what I meant about original is some parts of the series are original, like for example. Vampires that sparkle? or veggie vampires. I mean be realistic thats original, but yea the whole idea is pretty un original. Oh, Dante Necrophiliac porn writers? Often (meaning most of the time) Vampire story's are not just about dead people and sex. Do you even know what necrophiliac means? and yea I know a lot of writers have written about a human falling in love with vampire but I like the books because Stephanie M. had an interesting take on it. P.S. I've read, not a lot but quite a few vampire story's. And I'm reading another (vampire) series right now.
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@ Myckey This is the first thing you've ever read about vampires, isn't it?
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@Anne - I love you for posting the link to the video. :D I watched the whole video, the quoted part starts at about 3:31 or so. Anyone else notice how insanely uncomfortable Pattinson appears to be throughout the whole interview?
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Oh yeah, vampire loves human is a totally original idea. It's only been done by Bram Stoker (the only one to do it right!) and all the necrophiliac porn writers out there. But just because it's been done 872,569,478,212 times doesn't make it any less original!!!!!!!!!
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"But all the haters have to admit the idea itself if pretty original" lol
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Aw, you beat me too it Anne :p
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@ Myckey It was widely reported by a lot of places and I believe ONTD had video of it. It's also not the first time they've said something like that.
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Whoa. Sorry but I have a hard time believing that Kirsten Stewart and Robert Pattison actually said that I mean I could have posted something like that on another site off the top of my head. And I also find it kind of funny how you didn't post sources. Whatever. In my opinion the book is well written, I'm mean ya I'm kinda obsessed but all the haters have to admit the idea itself if pretty original and if you haven't read the books you can't really judge them. And most of the ''Fan girls'' and ''fan boys'' (Sorry I find those extremely childish insults against ''us'') can admit that some parts in the book really suck. Oh well. I am also an avid reader of harry potter (meaning i own every book and have read the whole series 3 times) and i think twilight is just as good. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. There's mine.
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Seriously. I tried opening up and reading a few pages. It was awful. It was just like a badly written fanfiction. I don't know why girls love this garbage so much.
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@Zach S. LMFAO!!! That is good stuff!
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wow. i thought it was only me. bravo to posting this. the fanboys and fangirls destroyed me when i posted on this over at ew.com. i got death threats! i'm on your side - boo to twilight!
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If you were an actor, you'd be stupid not to capitalize off of Meyer's work (dumb bitch deserves it), it's unreasonably popular and the movie will see high sales because of its ridiculous fanbase. Beside's, all actors do it for the money at one point.
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I don't know anything about this movie or these books except for the trailer. The trailer does crack me up when the girl determines that because someone is pale and has cold hands they're a vampire. She must misidentify a lot of people with that criteria. The actress comes actress as a kind of a stuck up bitch, pardon my language.
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The thing I hate about these fucking books is that it's everywhere, it's a pain. And how could Meyer be compared to Anne Rice? Fuck she WAS a writer! Meyers books are like some shit I've read off of that lame site quizilla. The movie will crash-suree, all of the little Twilight fans will see it, but have you seen these infinite trailers on the tube? Insanely boring...
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I think that Twilight is stupid myself, but I think the stars are just making themselves look like jerks. These actors look down on the fans and author of this book, but don't hesitate to make money and gain more fame for themselves by capitalizing on Meyer's work and the fans' zeal to buy tickets.
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I'm a dedicated goth nerd and even I hate this thing. Haven't we had enough necrophiliac pornography books already?!? I can't even stand to go into Hot Topic anymore because of this steaming pile of sh!t being plastered all over the store. I hope the author is this book, as well as those just like her *cough* Laurell K. Hamilton and Charlaine Harris *cough* soon die and leave the world richer for being without them. It's a crying shame that there's some many brilliant undiscovered writers out there languishing while POS's like this are making millions. In conclusion: DEATH TO ALL THE NECROPHILIAC PORN WRITERS!!!!!!!!!
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my hatred for this book BURNS. burns like the fucking SUN. i'm in physical pain whenever someone asks me if "OH MY GOAWD DD YOU READ TWILIGHT?! DIDN'T YOU LOVE IT! BELLA AND EDWARD FOREVER!~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~"
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The Source: New Websters Dictionary Destination: the word source. See? It has a U in it.
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I say fuck twatlight and hairy puto. I've never hated anything with such passion like this since Star Trek.
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I'd also like to see a link on those quotes. I have some friends who would get a laugh out of them but would want an official sorce.
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Seriousley, does people actually need to hear more words than Mormon + Housewife to know that this is THE crapfest of the millenium? But at least the money she earned got her the #1 spot among the wifes. Good for you Stephanie, good for you.
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Screw Twilight. I hate to be so blunt, but... Really. Let it die already. I can name a dozen better fanfics than this rubbish.... J.K. Rowling, come back, all is forgiven. I could handle Harry Potter, but... This is too much. Please, I'll take another seven Harry Potter books over this, even if they're four-times as long as the last few. Just give fangirls something at least semi-cool to focus on, not this trash. How sad when the actors agree with my own thoughts on the matter, heh.
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OK, when I saw that there was a Twilight thing here, I thought to myself, .oO( Oh hell. Is there no safe haven from this sparkly stalker? Is there nowhere I can go to avoid this crap? Am I going to attempt to troll fangirls here, too? Goddammit. ) But the whole article made me smile. Even the stars recognize that it's little more than poorly edited fanfic. Glee. :D Please tell me you have a citation for the quotes. I want to link it to so many places.
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I never thought I'd say this but I think we need the Coreys to go kill some more vampires.
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Is it me, or does that dude have Sith eyes?
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I don't think I've ever hated anything as much as the Twilight series...but those actors are some of my heroes for their continuing hatred of it also :p
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