The 8 Sci-Fi and Fantasy Books Which Most Desperately Need Movies

Posted at 5:04 AM Nov 10, 2008

snow_crash.jpgBy Cory Casciato and Rob Bricken

Despite Hollywood’s obvious lack of ideas—see the onslaught of remakes, comic book and toy-based movies and sequels that are clogging your favorite multiplex—it has consistently overlooked some killer opportunities for adaptation among the ranks of classic science fiction and fantasy. These are time-tested, fan-approved intellectual properties, ripe for the plucking. Sure, they may face licensing hurdles and the unrealistically high expectations of their dedicated fan bases, but I don’t care about the logistical difficulties—I’m just the ideas man.

8) Edgar Rice Burroughs’ Barsoom Series
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It’s absolutely mind-boggling that roughly 500 adaptations of Burroughs other famous series, Tarzan, have been made, yet no one has managed to bring any of the Barsoom stories to the screen. Tarzan is just an ass-backwards hick in a loincloth with a chimp and a hottie girlfriend. By comparison, Barsoom offers an entire planet full of decaying cities, airships, sword battles, pirates, four-armed, tusked barbarian green aliens and a square-jawed, steely-eyed all-American hero with a red-skinned sex-pot girlfriend who walks around in a less-modest version of the Slave Leia outfit most of the time. Many film versions have been attempted but not a single one has ever been finished and almost every space opera, especially Star Wars, has stolen liberally from it. It deserves its chance in the sun.

7) The Mote in God’s Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
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This classic features a star-faring human empire that discovers a cute, cuddly-looking alien race that looks something like a three-armed Ewok. But this is not one for the kiddies, since these aliens turn out to be the nastiest, most dangerous little fuckers since the aliens of Alien. Impossibly advanced technologically and harboring a deadly secret related to their breeding habits, the cute, friendly aliens turn out to threaten the very survival of humanity. It’s a story full of epic space battles, death-defying escapes and terrifying “gotchas” through and through. It would undoubtedly be one of the most expensive movies ever made, but would put every previous big-screen sci-fi epic to shame if they nailed it.

6) The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick
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This is another book that’s been optioned multiple times for a film version, without success. It’s a story of alternate history where the Axis powers won World War II and jointly rule an occupied U.S.A. Dark, unsettling and full of questions about the nature of reality, it’s considered one of Dick’s best works. Considering Blade Runner, one of the best science fiction movies ever made, was adapted from another Dick classic (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?) this could easily become another classic, especially in the hands of a director adept at the kind of reality-shifting weirdness that runs throughout the book. My vote goes to Richard Kelly of Donnie Darko and Southland Tales fame.

5) Roger Zelazny’s Chronicles of Amber Series
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Part science fiction, part sword and sorcery epic and completely original, Zelazny’s Amber series follows a family of multiverse-walking demigods as they scheme with and against each other for control of Amber, the one true world, and by extension, the rest of the infinity of “shadow” worlds that surround it. With its immense scope, large and complex cast of scheming characters and reliance on mysticism, this one might be a nightmare to pull off, but if it worked it would stand up next to Lord of the Rings as one of the all-time epic fantasy tales told on screen.

4) Michael Moorcock’s Elric Series
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Conan is all well and barbaric, but there’s something unjust about a muscle-headed simpleton like Conan getting so much on-screen love while the complex, nuanced brilliance of the Elric saga is ignored. An albino emperor and last descendant of an ancient dynasty with a sentient, evil sword that gains power with each being it kills, Elric is the ultimate anti-hero and a complete badass. He’s already been the subject of a fantastic Blue Oyster Cult song (“Black Blade”) but he deserves a movie of his own.

3) David Edding’s Belgariad/Mallorean Series
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No one’s going to accuse David Eddings’ first fantasy opus of originality—it’s a traditional fantasy land of varied nations, monsters and magic, where a young boy is a secret king and destined to battle and evil god. But what Eddings brings to the table is a sense of humor and a wonderful ear for dialogue, and his huge cast of characters are all people you’d like to hang out with (well, maybe not the Imperial Princess Ce’Nedra, who is kind of a bitch). Sure, you’ve probably read about lands of snake-worshipping people and a dark land of evil a few times, but Eddings makes the journey immensely enjoyable. A movie could ride the coattails of the LotR flicks to make a great deal of cash, with all the requisite toys, videogames and what not.

2) Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
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William Gibson may have coined the term cyberspace, but it was Neal Stephenson who knew what it would really look like. Snow Crash is a intensely intelligent, immensely funny tale of the samurai sword-carrying hacker/programmer Hiro Protagonist, who must navigate the utterly lawless yet incorporated real world and the eerily prophetic cyberworld to figure out the mystery of the deadly cyberdrug Snow Crash, which somehow ties into Sumerian myth, a smart aleck delivery girl named Y.T., the pizza delivering mob, and the potential end of civilization. Good times.

1) Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein
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This is one of the few science fiction novels that regularly shows up on non-genre “best of” lists and occasionally gets mentioned as literature. Like Man in the High Castle, this one is less epic adventure and more think piece. It follows the story of a man raised by Martians who returns to Earth and becomes something of a messianic figure. As much a work of philosophy as a novel, it still contains a story that’s epic in its own right. Besides, as one of the deans of science fiction, Heinlein deserves a decently accurate film adaptation and god knows Starship Troopers was an atrocious failure on that right. This is another one that would take the right director, but as long as it isn’t Paul Verhoeven, I’d be okay with almost anyone.

Comments

Heimdall said:

While I love Amber a great deal, and it would (potentially) be cool to see it on the big screen, I think a better choice for adapting Zelazny's work would be Lord of Light (with Mohinder from Heroes portraying one of Sam's incarnations).

JayWicky said:

What's wrong with Verhoeven's Starship Troopers, again ?

jolko said:

i would definitely want to see Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga on film or TV.

space alternative to harry potter. just much much better.

Ben said:

Don't forget Harry Turtledove's "The Guns of the South"

Jangles said:

Snow Crash is one of my favorite books and I would love to see a movie of it. I remember someone once wrote a list of problems making a movie of it and one was that many directors would try to make it look like The Matrix because it is a book about hackers and cyberspace and that would really ruin it.

I would like to see that opening scene where Hiro is racing to get the pizza delivered on time and ends up crashing his truck in an empty swimming pool.

Fenris said:

How about Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun? It would be incredibly hard to pull off, but if done right it would be the best thing ever.

Jason said:

Making Snow Crash into a movie is by far the worst idea ever. I LOVED the book but it is not a good book to make into a live action movie. Animation would work much , much better.

Big Tig said:

I have been waiting a long time for Joel Silver to get Richard Morgans's "Altered Carbon" up on the screen.

GreenTurtle said:

How can you mention a Larry Niven work with mentioning RINGWORLD. 200 year old hero, hot babe, 7 ft tall lion partner and insane three legged alien. Come on!

MattK said:

"Hiro Protagonist". Not exactly subtle. Of course, that'll soon be beat by Twilight's more retarded "Isabella 'Bella' Swan" since we all know ageless vampires go for the "hot girls who are awkward and don't realize how hot they are" type.

turnidoff said:

I Still would like to see "Childhoods End" as long as Michael Bay/Will Smith/Spielberg are nowhere near it.

trickfred said:

I wholeheartedly agree with Stranger in a Strange Land, the only book on the list I've read.

Oh, and thanks for the added side-effect of a list of epic books I should be seeking out. :D

Matt said:

Starship Troopers ruled because it, in my opinion, was actually better than the weak and overrated Heinlein source material. Never liked Heinlein, read most of his stuff to see what everyone else was saying, but it's ponderous and poorly written. He was the Robert Jordan of Scifi to me.
How about Armor by John Steakley? Or most of Cordwainer Smith's stuff? That would blow some minds. Bring me the Instrumentality.

John Carter said:

It is in my most esteemed opinion, that I, John Carter of Virginia and of Barsoom, with the beautiful Dejah Thoris a Princess of Mars, believe that a motion picture based on my life on Barsoom would benefit humanity greatly if they accept my stories as the truth.

Pixar - John Carter of Mars Film:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)

Cory Casciato said:

To JayWicky:

For the record, I love Verhoeven's Starship Troopers on its own merits, but as an adaptation of the source material it is an epic, utter embarassment of a failure.

badNflu3nce said:

I've always maintained that Snowcrash would make an excellent anime series. Sort of in the same vein as Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

@jangles, you are thinking of the cracked article
http://www.cracked.com/article_15631_10-best-sci-fi-films-never-made.html

cummins said:

It's a sci-fi kids book, but seeing Daniel Pinkwater's "Fat Men from Space" would be wonderful.

jessica said:

A LONESOME NIGHT IN OCTOBER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil-Z said:

No mention of Stephen King's Dark Tower series?

Although, to be fair, I think it wouldn't work as a movie series, but would definitely work as a TV series... as long as it was done right...

Phil-Z said:

No mention of Stephen King's Dark Tower series?

Although, to be fair, I think it wouldn't work as a movie series, but would definitely work as a TV series... as long as it was done right...

KB said:

Ender's Game?

Mitchel Ahern said:

Odd that one of the most cinematic of Philip K Dick's novels has never been cinematicized: "Clans of the Alphane Moon".

Jim W said:

What about E.E. (Doc) Smith's Lensman series or Douglas Adams "Starship Titanic?"

Drizzt Fan said:

If Salvatore is not on the list, then its worthless

algore said:

I think that they should do the G.O.D. series from Jack Chalker, and get josh wheadon to direct it
that would be really really good

Verre said:

I thought for sure the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant would be on this list!

david_42 said:

Catherine Asaro's Skolian Empire books would all translate well. Multi-million ship space wars, romance, cyborgs, burning planets, sadistic slavers with red eyes. What not to like?

JoJo said:

Isaac Asimov, Foundation Series?
A. Clarke, Rama series?

Never heard of Snow Crash before, gonna have to check that one out.

Cheers.

Chris said:

I would love to see something done from the Sword of Truth series from Terry Goodkind...

BEWilson said:

How about the "RAMA" series?
I understand "When Worlds Collide" is being remade and due
out in 2010. It should be followed with "After Worlds
Collide". Ben Bova's "Mars" series.

Steve D said:

I'm with Matt on Heinlein. He swings wildly between pompous pseudo-intellectual (Stranger) and fascist (Troopers). But The Moon is a Harsh Mistress could be a blast in the right hands. If This Goes On (AKA Revolt in 2100), though not very profound, could make an interesting yarn with clear morals for today. Coventry, merely a short story, could be expanded profitably as well. Almost anything by Niven would work well.

Robert Leonard said:

I second "Ender's Game." And thanks for reminding powers that be that there are numerous novels that would make great movies. More imagination and less remakes would be be appreciated.

Gully Foyle said:

An oldie but goodie - a true classic - Alfred Bester's "The Stars My Destination" would make a wonderful movie. Bester was a writer in many fields including TV and movies and I always thought this book was written with "visuals" and characterizations such that Bester was thinking "screenplay" as he wrote this ground-breaking novel.

Thevshi said:

No mention of Stephen King's Dark Tower series?

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/02/26/stephen-king-confirms-the-dark-tower-movie/

Ronbo said:

No mention of Asimov's Foundation? It would make a great flick, and three books means a trilogy.

Skip said:

How about Samuael Delaney's "Dalgren"

Jack-O said:

Problem with these is they require massive budgets and, as shown by any sci-fi movie to recently come out, sci-fi movies don't have built-in money makers. I have no idea why this is, but people just seem to shy away from sci-fi and fantasy (with the obvious exceptions). Also I'd like to see a Conan movie do justice to a character far more nuanced than an Austrian bodybuilder's acting "talent" can deliver.

Bill Swallow said:

A lot of good choices here, but I would like to put in a plug for a Peter Jackson-type big screen treatment of Fritz Leiber's "Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser" series. If the Tolkien epic and the Star Wars franchise can succeed that well, the two charming Sword & Sorcery rogues of Lankhmar ought to go over well (if they get a good script and good production).

Dark said:

How about Piers Anthony's Xanth or Adept series?

Ron Moses said:

I have no complaints about anything on this list, but it always kills me that people never consider Harry Harrison's "Stainless Steel Rat" series for adaptation. It would be perfect. Get Robert Rodriguez to direct John Leguizamo in the lead, and you've got a sure-fire hit franchise on your hands.

Cat Skyfire said:

The reason these books won't be made into movies is that unless you have a very, very dedicated director (as Peter Jackson was with the Lord of the Rings saga), there's no way chopping those books into 2 hour movies would work. Oh, there'd be a movie, but anyone who liked the books would scream about the desecration. Remember, they'd have to bring these complex books down to Joe Sixpack level. Or possibly, in trying to do too much, they'd end up at WTF level.

After all, many say Dune would be great for a movie, and look what they did to that.

steve said:

I absolutely LOVED David Eddings Belgariad and Mallorean Series. A total of 10 novels detailing the same characters makes them so familiar you can't wait to read the next page. Condensed into a few movies it would be an awesome adventure, IF the special Effects were not skimped on!

wasabi said:

i would also add william gibson's 'neuromancer' as an amazing book that would lend itself well to the sci-fi film pantheon. plenty of action, as well as thought-provoking ideas, plus film technology today would be able to re-create the images he writes about so fluently--in the right hands.
thanks for this list!

Idiomagic said:

What about Lord Valentine's Castle by Silverberg? Steven Brust's The Phoenix Guards, or the Vlad Taltos series?
Winter's Tale by Mark Helprin?

There are so many good ones out there just begging to be translated to the big screen...

cew said:

A number of years ago there was a reissue of "Stranger in a Strange Land" that included all the things that Heinlein's editors had cut out. He claimed the editors butchered the story. I found the story much improved by the butchering.

Crystiannia said:

Agree with Eddings, but not the Belgariad/Mallorean -- what about the Elenium instead? Adrian Paul would make an interesting Sparhawk, though maybe not grizzled enough.

Zenguy said:

"Ender's Gmae" could make a good film. RA Salvatore? Are you kidding me? There is nothing original in his works, it is strictly formula. Gather band of heroes, go on quest, overcome difficulties, complete quest. Ok he has created some good characters but nothing he has done would make a really great film. On the other hand, if what you want is a simplistic action film that will appear to the majority of the public, Salvatore is PERFECT. As far a a book that could make a really GOOD film with more depth than a plastic soapdish, how about "The Left Hand of Darkness"? It would be hard to make a film as meaningful as it should be, but I think with the right director is could work. I miss Kubrick!

RD said:

Neuromancer is a good choice, as is Snow Crash, but I think Stephenson's best work that would translate over would be The Diamond Age: A Young Girl's Illustrated Primer. I took a cyberpunk class that focused on almost all of these books and Diamond Age was the best, by far.

FiveO said:

Piers Anthony, Incarnations of Immortality.

In book one, On A Pale Horse, science and magic are on an even keel and the protagonist, Zane, kills Death and becomes the Grim Reaper. Later there's romance and fighting Satan and some other cool stuff. The series is great and the first book is spectacular.

And to echo someone else's thoughts - thanks for the list of books I need to check out.

Bruce said:

Ender's Game is being made into a movie, just taking awhile. I'm sorry I introduced my wife to his books, she is such a Card dork now. Everybody knows that Asimov is the true dorks dork.

Starship troopers was such a departure from the theme of the book that it was unrecognizable. Verhoeven should stay away from Scifi. He did a nice job with "The Black Notebook" (Dutch film).

Give me "Rama" or "Ringworld" dammit! Or how about we finish up the 2001 series with 2061 and 3001?

Also, can we just agree as a society not to use Will Smith in anymore movies . . . period! What a way to mess up Asimov.

The Ghost of Peter Wiggin said:

I've heard rumblings about Ender's Game for a decade now (think it's pretty much a dead project), and obviously finding child actors able to pull it off would be difficult.

Snow Crash would be almost impossible, but I would still love to see it. The only problem I can see with Stranger in a Strange Land is the dated idea of a "martian", but I'm sure this could be overcome with some simple tweaking of the concept.

Shadrach said:

What about Raymond Feist? Faerie Tale would be an awesome movie and his Rift War Saga would make for a great big screen trilogy. I agree that the Eddings books would make great movies as well. I'd especially like to see the Redemption of Antalus (sp?) turned into a movie.

Damien Walder said:

The budgetary exceptions cited wouldn't need to apply for all of these works adapted for film. Snowcrash in particular would be possible with a small cast (with only a few crowd scenes, mostly on the raft), and any large scenes could be created using existing technology at WETA (Lord of the Rings& King Kong paid for the gear) rather than re-inventing the wheel for postproduction. Obviously filmmaking is going to need a new kind of wheel to make big films work in the coming economy, but given the Blade Runner bleakness (US is a hollow shell and real-estate for foreign holdings of mainland Asia, etc. - the internet is a Sim-world that attracts more people and prestige than real life will ever do again - hey, Hiro's the man of the future, and we need him now.
Mixed race, information age champion with a fair grasp of his limitations and willing to work with just about anyone... sound like anyone?
The only problem is making it without too much studio micromanaging. I see a Sin City style adaptation. Stranger could also be handled that way - let the story be partly managed by comic book filters that help it with both image and (VO) exposition.
Lastly - Recommend a great book that took 15 years to finish - with lots of insights to a fave film: The Making of Blade Runner by Paul M.Sammon. Worth the trouble to find.

Anonymous said:

Don't forget
Faffhrd and the Gray Mouser series from Fritz Leiber

Usul Muad'Dib said:

Completely agree with stranger in a strange land that book is amazing. You're right to say that it is not the classic epic voyage like most sci-fi but is rather a character study. Alas you did not mention the two best sci-fi books I've ever read; "The Sparrow" and "Children of God" both by Mary Doria Russel. Amazing books written by an anthropologist about how misunderstandings of alien culture can have disastorous and far reaching affects.

PhillR said:

I would rather see a movie made from Diamond Age or Cryptonomicron then Snow Crash.

Other books that deserve mention-
Greg Bear's EON.
Dune. Lynch's perversion doesn't count.
The Foundation.

Derek said:

I also would like to see a good "Ender's Game" movie. I hear they are working on one but now a days thats not saying much. Im actually kind of surprised that this hasnt been made already. My second request is for Del Toro to make his Mountains of Madness screenplay he wrote based on the book by lovecraft. (if you consider lovecraft scifi)

Derek said:

I also would like to see a good "Ender's Game" movie. I hear they are working on one but now a days thats not saying much. Im actually kind of surprised that this hasnt been made already. My second request is for Del Toro to make his Mountains of Madness screenplay he wrote based on the book by lovecraft. (if you consider lovecraft scifi)

Ciaran said:

i don't understand how childhood's end didn't make it on the list.

Ray said:

I think Frank M> Robinson's The Dark Beyond the Stars would make a great film adaptation. I also agree with Ringworld.

Peter said:

There has sort have been an Elric movie: 1973's "The Final Programme" is based on Moorcock's "Jerry Cornelius" series, and Jerry is one of the 'eternal champion' incarnations, along with Elric.

gerber said:

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress would be a fun movie. I would also imagine that you could make the Lazarus Long themes into a series of movies... why not just Time Enough for Love?
I agree strongly that Starship Troopers was not faithful to Heinlein... or was it? Some people read Heinlein and see fascism ...others see a free spirit. Hard to say.

Erik said:

Agree on Stainless Steel Rat. Good call on casting, too.

Where on this list are Startide Rising and Neuromancer? I think you need separate lists for SciFi and Fantasy. In which case, let's see that Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser movie.

Oh -- Pliocene Exile. SciFi AND Fantasy.

Diver said:

James P Hogan's Giants trilogy would be awesome as movies!!!

karen said:

What about the Raymond Feist series, Magician, Magician's Apprentice....GREAT BOOKS, would make phenomenal movies

karen said:

What about the Raymond Feist series, Magician, Magician's Apprentice....GREAT BOOKS, would make phenomenal movies

karen said:

What about the Raymond Feist series, Magician, Magician's Apprentice....GREAT BOOKS, would make phenomenal movies

Nomad said:

George RR Martin's book series A Song of Ice and Fire deserves to be mentioned.

Moynonet said:

What about the Incarnations of Immortality series of books by Piers Anthony? They are about mortals who are made the "Incarnations" of Death, Time, Fate, War, Nature, Evil and Good. There are some new books in the series since I read it, but the ones I read would make a nice series of movies. According to Wiki, Dead Like Me on Showtime was loosely based on "On a Pale Horse", which had death driving a white Corvette when he finds out that he has the option.

MICK said:

ENDER'S (fucking) GAME

How can anyone miss that!

korg20000bc said:

I'd love to see Phillip High's- Come, hunt an Earthman.
Also, McCammon's- The Wolf's Hour. A Russian werewolf employed by the British as a secret agent against the NAZIs in WWII. Awesome stuff!

Steve said:

Ever since I first read "The Witches of Karres" by James Schmitz many years ago I thought it would make a sweet movie.

Elvis said:

To be honest, I thought Verhoeven's all-gay interpretation of Starship Troopers was fine, as far as it went.

aragornnyc said:

My vote is for any CJ Cherryh... Foreigner series, Alliance-Union universe (Merchanter's Luck, Rimrunners) and Martha Wells's Ile-Rien stories (The Death of the Necromancer)

Anonymous said:

Ender's Game, according to IMDB is still in what could be referred to as "developmental hell". The brilliant balance of Card's work must translate perfectly. However it must be said that sociopathic children is probably a difficult sell to producers and the reason for the delay.
Niven's "Footfall" would also be a good choice, the CGI is good these days so the armies of elephant creatures would seem real and the struggle to free mankind from enslavement would translate well onto the screen.
Someone mentioned Harry Harrison - also would be fantastic. It could go the dark route or slightly funny, as either read would work. I have always thought Angelina Jolie world make a perfect Angelique...but I'm not the casting director...but we could hope.

Gerry said:

Ringworld - Larry Niven
Footfall - Larry Niven
Cities in Flight - James Blish
Fuzzies - H. Beam Piper
First Lensmen - e.e. Doc Smith
Past Through Tomorrow - Robert Heinlein as a massive series of movies.

Fatroll said:

Again, for all the film genius-type people reading this comment thread:

ENDER'S GAME.

MAKE IT A MOVIE NOW.

Archie W. Falin said:

Stranger in A Strange Land was indeed ground breaking, but nothing matches Time Enough for Love as being Heinleins' best work. (IMHO, after that Heinlein became cynical--all his later works were too dark for words (Job, etc..) However, why has there never been a true movie work of Madelyn L'Engles "Wrinkle in Time". The first SF work I remember reading (and reading, and reading, and reading). A true rendering of this classic work would be well worth seeing on the screen.

steve said:

What about "Old Man's War" by Scalzi? Great story IMHO.

Craig said:

A list like this really needs Iain M. Banks included somewhere. Just about any Culture novel by him would make a knock-out sci-fi flick.

Josh said:

Ender's Game!
Ender's Game!
Ender's Game!

Jared said:

Towing Jehovah by James Morrow would make an amazing movie, and I'd bet the controversy it would be sure to generate would guarantee a big box office return too.

The premise: God dies and an Exxon Valdez-type tanker captain is hired to tow his two mile long dead body to a tomb in the Arctic.

Kencyr said:

Some personal favs:
Godstalk by P. C. Hodgell
Emergence by David R. Palmer.

Both would make wonderful movies.

On the lighter side, Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett.

Lovedeath said:

A couple of things, Starship Troopers is a great book. The movie was a little of a letdown not to mention the sequels. The problem with it is that to make it correctly it would easily cost $300,000,000, possibly more. The special effect that would be required to make it as it is in the book would take several years to complete. Second, I think that the Incarnations of Immortality series would make a couple of great movies. Piers Anthony did a grand job of story and character development. The only issue that I foresee with this set is that the original series was only 5 books that could be made into three or four movies with interwoven actors playing the parts. But eventually someone would want to make the last two books and they cover a time frame that crosses the other five books. This would cause actors to be in it for the long haul, as well the director and distributors. The Simple scope of that would surpass LOTR. It Boggles the Mind.

john said:

I agreed with almost all the books offered up by other posters. However, I have to disagree with Dalgren. I read this book many, many years ago, and I remember it as the worst book I ever read. I regretted finishing it.

Wouldn't it be great if one of the pay channels would create a sci-fi miniseries on Friday nights and feature many of these novels? Somebody with a budget.

DuckFan said:

Any of the 'world' series...

Ringworld
Dayworld
World of Tiers

And puhlease - someone try Riverworld again!

Joe Stahl said:

What's wrong with Starship Troopers the movie?

Read the book. The movie is only remotely like the author's work. Totally ignores the social commentary, and was a sort of comic book pablum for childlike minds. R.A. had a LOT to say about society in that book. It was ignored in the movie. If Heinlein had been buried, instead of cremated, he would have been doing about 7000 R.P.M. in his coffin. He, in his own words, wanted people to THINK.

The movie was like a Hoover suckulamator.

Ronbo said:

What about Philip Jose Farmer's Riverworld series - relatively cheap to do, almost no special effects, about the most expensive item is a paddlewheel boat. And the story wouldn't be hard to condense in to a two hour movie.

Ronbo said:

What about Philip Jose Farmer's Riverworld series - relatively cheap to do, almost no special effects, about the most expensive item is a paddlewheel boat. And the story wouldn't be hard to condense in to a two hour movie.

Doug said:

I agree strongly with seveal of the "other" suggestions made.
Ender's Game,Thomas Covenant,Stainless Steel Rat,Ringworld
But how about:
Protector- Larry Niven
Any of the robot stories by Asimov such as "Caves of Steel" or "Robots of Dawn". Hopefully not butchered like "I Robot"

Justin said:

Great list, but you missed Dan Simmons "Hyperion" Series. This would be great to see, but is one of those stories that needs a truly visionary director. If you liked anyhting on this list, and haven't checked out these books, go buy them now!

Dusk said:

Legend.

Doug said:

To Ronbo:
They did Riverworld...Not well, but they did it

Colin said:

Did anyone mention the Uplift Trilogy? No? Then I will.

Ryan said:

I thiink Tad Williams series ( Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn) begging with The Dragonbone Chair is a great read and would make a wonderful movie series

jack said:

Where's NEUROMANCER from William Gibson?

gerber said:

Re comments by J. Stahl.
I kind of saw the STroopers movie as a look at modern fascism... kind of technofascism. That kind of jingoism would thrive in a world battling bugs. I thought that the bugs were well portrayed, and the battle scenes were good. I agree that the style was weird and it did not fit the book, per se, but really, it could have been a lot worse. I would just recommend to anyone that they read the book BEFORE seeing the movie, but really, doing both is not bad.

Now, your "social commentary" comments are intriguing. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress would be a fun little movie. Actually, the timing of the themes might be really good. Sentient computers leading a revolution... seems like it has been done, but not really... know what I mean?

J.Payne said:

I agree with Eddings' Belgariad/Mallorean series. I put them waay over Haryy Potter. And then there is Wizards First Rule by Terry Goodkind, an epic fantasy now 11 books long. Book 6 is the last good one, though.

And, Where the heck is Piers Anthony?! His Incarnations of immortality, 7 books of it, are woven together so skillfully you dont even realize that each book is jsut part of a bigger whole! Plus, well, his Xanth stuff, I woudl like to see of CG deals with all the puns that go on.

monkey face said:

absolutely c.j. cherryh's foreigner series. but how come no one mentioned ursula k. leguin's earthsea trilogy, or the dispossessed?!?!?!

Tomm said:

"Riftwar Saga" by Raymond E. Feist? Some incredible battle scenes in that series. And another vote for "Ender's Game."

James said:

Matt is obviously not very well-read. The two authors that he mentions (Robert A. Heinlien and Robert Jordan) are wordsmiths. Both had EXTENSIVE military careers and write some of the best battle scenes EVER! Starship Troopers (the movie) SUCKED! The screenwriter absolutly RUINED the entire plot of the book. The book was about Mankind's struggle to resist an attack by an overwhelmingly advanced alien race. It profiled one man's attempt to come to terms with his own beleifs and weakness. My main complaint with the movie: WHERE IN THE HELL IS THE MOBILE INFANTRY'S POWERED ARMOR? You know, the suit that was blatantly stolen by the HALO video game series(SPARTAN). The plot of the movie? still unsure, I think it was "how much blood and guts can we wedge into a 110 min BOMB".Favorite line (book): I'm a 30 second bomb, I'm a 30 second bomb, 29, 28, 27..... Robert Jordan's "Eye of the Universe" series was pure magic. Maybe Matt should wait a few years, `til he has the maturity required to enjoy a well turned phrase, and an ACTUAL PLOT!

Chris said:

Neuromancer > other scifi books > a tree stump > snow crash

m said:

The Riverworld story WAS done up as a made for TV movie, it bombed.

The best chance in todays market would be Leguin's "The Left Hand of Darkness" It's theme on the nature of human sexuality would be a natural in todays state of affairs.And no, there is no sex involved, sorry.
Another couple good picks would be Zelazny's "Jack of Shadows" or "Roadmarks", both fun reads and easy to adapt.

Maria said:

A couple of epic series I would love to see in serial movie format would be the "Sten" series by Chris Bunch and Allan Cole, and "The Tyrant" series by Piers Anthony. C'mon! You know it'd be awesome!

Sean said:

I shudder to think of half these books in the hands of Hollywood screen"writers".
I would prefer books that had less literary merit be made into movies. For example, John Ringo's Posleen War series.
Not great books, but would be fun as hell to watch on the big screen.

Bippy said:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

(Stranger in a Strange Land)is another one that would take the right director, but as long as it isn’t Paul Verhoeven, I’d be okay with almost anyone.

You do realize what you have done by saying that, right? We will get our wish. The movie will be made... but Uwe Boll will direct it.

At that point, a little part of all of us will die.

Domhnall said:

Bah and humbug! You are [almost]all wrong. In order:
Jack Vance's Dying Earth series. Humour and originality beyond compare.
Michael Moorcock: Dancers at the End of Time (INCLUDES Elric if you think about it).
Brian Aldiss: Hothouse (NOT Helliconia, life is too short).
Can't remember who right now: Imperium (alt-Earth series).
Ursula K Le Guin: The wizard ones - EarthSea?
Lloyd Alexander: The Black Cauldron. A proper, non-Disney/live action version. For story telling, as opposed to OCD-levels of detail, this beats the hell out of Tolkien in my view.
Finally I agree with some of the posts above, Robert Heinlein leaves me cold (have you READ 'Job, a Comedy of Justice'?) and Gene Wolfe's New Urth series would be excellent.

Scotyman said:

What about John Normans Gor? Its wonderfully wicked and better than Conan. Also the Shanarra series. I liked Stranger in a strange land but I think A Tunnel in Time has a better chance of a movie.

Kpede said:

I would like to see some david drake thrown in the mix. bring some terry pratchett out there too.

Al said:

Moorcock's Dancers at The End of Time series would make a fantastic movie. The technology is now available to do it well but it would require massive amounts of CGI & artistic talent.

Jazz said:

Rather than Stranger in a Strange Land, I'd rather see them film Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Revolution, sedition, a sentient computer, giant rocks slamming into earth, invasions in moon-gravity, cloak-and-dagger plotting.

Stephenson is also fantastic, but IMHO Anathem would be easier to make into a decent film than Snow Crash. (I considered Cryptonomicon but handling the twin storylines, not to mention all the cryptological explanation, would be nigh-impossible.)

Last but not least, it's a sign that God exists that Ender's Game is, reportedly, finally being made into a film. Now hopefully they don't screw it up.

domhnall said:

@Al, I did consider Discworld (and Strata! My favourite bat-shoot crazy Martian ever in that one) but with the recent release of Hogfather and the other new one by Sky Movies (part of NewsCorp)here in Europe that itch is somewhat scratched...Good call though - I went through a Piers Anthony phase when I was younger but the reliance on puns began to do my head in - I think TP is the better of the two for (mostly) humourous fantasy. Oh and while I am considering him: Good Omens (with Neil Gaiman).

Mak Leto said:

Lots of good comments here. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one anxious for Ender's Game/Ender's Shadow to be made into a movie, as it is in my mind perhaps the best military/science fiction book and series ever, and I've read quite a bit in both genres. I also strongly approve of the Riftwar Saga by Raymond Feist, though it really is too bad how the books get increasingly crappy after the series moves past "Riftwar".

Here's the one I'm really surpised no one else has mentioned... "The Icarus Hunt" by Timothy Zahn. Zahn is famous for his excellent Star Wars books (which would all make better Star Wars movies than the prequels) but "The Icarus Hunt" is set in his own sci-fi universe, and is absolutely thrilling. A modern classic of sci-fi in my opinion.

Doug said:

Let's not be too hard on directors who've blown it....Some can get better.
You want proof? Watch "Bad Taste" by Peter Jackson, then tell me he hasn't risen far beyond his beginnings.

gerber said:

Domhnall
The Earthsea books are already being done.. have been done?. Have seen one movie covering part of the series... the others are probably all out there by now.

Modern or futuristic warfare and alienation anyone? Perhaps PTSD? How about THE FOREVER WAR. A great read that might be an interesting movie. Rambo in lipstick.

Domhnall said:

@Al- wups, meant @Kpede, sorry.

Dana said:

I wish Terry Goodkind didn't sell all of the non-book rights to his Sword of Truth series to Disney. The show, "The Legend of the Seeker," is a travesty compared to the book, "Wizard's First Rule." They should've made movies based on the series, without the dumbing-down that the show has.

Bill said:

Most novels are too long for anything less than a mini-series; novellas or short stories are a better match - remember how much had to be cut out of Dune to fit in the 4-6 hour versions, much less the 2-hour? Burroughs's Mars books may be short enough to be ok, if you can still credibly make that kind of pulp fiction into a movie today, and Mote in God's Eye could probably work fine. I have to agree with Ringworld and Ender's Game as suggestions. Amber had enough short content chunks, but nobody takes enough acid these days to really have an audience for it. Snow Crash would probably be ruined - some of the parts would work incredibly well, but the whole Sumerian bit would get lost.

Terry Smith said:

Tuesday Nov 11

I wrote to George Lucas in the mid 80's about making a movie based on John Carter of Mars. He wrote back and said they were in negotiations with the estate of Edgar Rice Burroughs. Never heard anything about it in the last 20 years.

Sarah said:

Oh my gosh, where's Ender's Game?

Paul H said:

Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth is being produced as a TV series by Disney/ABC

The Legend of the Seeker is a year-long adaption of Wizard's First Rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_the_Seeker

Alvin Maker said:

Lots of great books mentioned here. I ran into Card a couple of months ago and nothing was mentioned about an Ender movie. It would be good though. How about Titan, Wizard and Deamon by John Varley? Three great books that would stand alone or be a trilogy. Greg Bears Eon? With what CGI can do now it is time for someone to do Ringworld and start a "Tales of Known Space" group of pictures. I read Dahlgren back in high school and that was a grand waste of time. I cannot imagine making a movie of that. I would rather see a Chiltons auto manual for an AMC Gremlin made into a musical. Almost any Arthur C. Clarke, Larry Niven would be good. Heinlein is great but if you cut all the sex with your rejuvinated mother and magic space ship what have you got.

Bill Swallow said:

Cat Skyfire said:

"The reason these books won't be made into movies is that unless you have a very, very dedicated director (as Peter Jackson was with the Lord of the Rings saga), there's no way chopping those books into 2 hour movies would work."

Yup. Another reason I'll (again) recommend Fafhrd & The Gray Mouser. Print and Film are quite different media, and both can be awesome. Realistically, a single film should be built around a short story at best, to get it all done properly in the time available. (And F&TGM had a lot of good short stories.) After seeing what J.M. Straczynski did with Babylon 5, I became convinced that a real *novel* should not be handled in anything shorter than one full TV season.

Thanks to everyone else for the other wonderful suggestions I'd forgotten about (like Slippery Jim diGriz, a/k/a The Stainless Steel Rat, among many others. James Hogan, too!)

Rasicar said:

I'm really liking what I've seen. Especially Moon is a Harsh Mistress - my favorite Heinlein novel.

However, I'm very surprised to see that For Love of Mother-Not is not on this particular list. As my favorite childhood sci-fi story, I think that it would make a wonderful film - most of the Flinx books would for that matter. I realize that it would probably require some knowledge of Alan Dean Foster's 'Commonwealth' universe, but if you did it right, that would probably not matter.

Anonymous said:

Ender's Game or Childhood's End or maybe Allen Dean Foster's
"The Damned" series would be interesting.

DJ Maniak said:

No mention of A Confederacy Of Dunces?

I agree with Man In The High Castle, as well as some other suggestions on here (Terry Pratchett, et al.)

I, for one, would like to see Spider Robinson's Callahan Chronicles adapted for the screen.

MAC said:

Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle have already
written the most cinematic tome I've ever
read. The Mote in God's Eye? Feh. Ringworld?
Meh. Footfall? Gimme a break.

For ripping-good suspense, action and stuff
blowing up real good, you just can't do any
better than Lucifer's Hammer. Unfortunately,
the so-so Deep Impact and the abysmal
Armageddon have already covered the same
territory, but in an inferior way.

Picture the giant wave from Deep Impact, except
with a surfer riding it - right into a building.
How about cannibalistic cults that spring up
after the impact? Check. A scientist burying
books in his septic tank for future generations?
Check and double-check.

The book is full of memorable scenes like that,
and builds steadily to one of the most gut-
wrenching but ultimately uplifting climaxes
you could imagine. It would probably make the
best disaster-genre film ever, but the fact
it was preceded by two lesser efforts probably
guarantees it'll never see the light of a
projector.

But that doesn't stop you from reading the book.
If you get the chance, take it.

PotluckBrigand said:

I always thought Amber would make an incredible videogame if done properly (and I, admittedly, am not in the least bit sure what "properly" would entail). Being able to move through shadows (or reach through them, I suppose, depending on your character's origins), using Trumps, and just all around being a semi-immortal badass would be great fodder for an interactive adventure.

I think I remember hearing somewhere in the foggy recesses of my mind that there was, in fact, an old text-based adventure based on the Amber books a long time ago, but I have no idea if that is even true.

Oztotl said:

Raymond Feist's Faerie Tale. Absolutely! Fantasty, suspense, mild horror. Kids, trolls, fairies (evil and otherwise, sortof), modern day setting, not alot of major $pecial effect$, the kind of house (and situation) I could see myself and family moving into.

bASS said:

Huzzah for the shout-out to John Varley...Love that series!

Put me down for FUTURE WAR, A CANTICLE FOR LIEBOVITZ, THE LEGACY OF HEOROT, and GATEWAY.

And another vote for MOTE, CHILDHOOD'S, and FOUNDATION.

monkeyship said:

and yet, nobody has brought up the Master Harper - Pern Series. The Foundation Trilogy by Asimov should be on the list too.

Gabriel said:

Here are a couple of titles more than worthy of mention that got passed up.

1) Weber and White's Starfire Series - I'd start with "Insurrection" and the go straight to "In Death Ground" and finish with "The Shiva Option". (These would be the most epic space battles since "Star Wars" and "Galactica".)

2) War against the Chtorr by David Gerrold - start with "A Matter for Men" and make this a trilogy or better yet, a TV series. (That no one has mentioned this particular author or these books in such a long forum on good Sci-Fi is... disheartening.)

3) "Legacy of Heorot" by Niven - this gets overlooked but is a far easier story to make into an excellent 2hr movie. I can hear the complaints, though. "Can we change the damned title? No one will understand what the hell this is about otherwise!"

4) "DeepSix" by Jack McDevitt - A great yarn about rescuing a group of people stranded on a doomed planet. Easily told in two hours, this could be brilliant edge-of-the-seat fun.

I liked a lot of the suggestions by the forum members, unfortunately, I would almost be afraid of ANY of the titles we've all mentioned being made into movies. H'wood has a seriously bad reputation of really butchering original material to make the movie "watchable". "Starship Troopers" was great eye-candy, but the total removal of the actual book's plot was a crime. Same with "I, Robot". Again, watchable, but the movie had nothing to do with the book except for the inclusion of robots. There ought to be a law... :)

Doug Ellsworth said:

"Guns of the South", definitely. Great read, great use of mixing the real with the possible.

*ian* said:

WTF? Where's Dhalgren?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhalgren

greg said:

Anything by Philip Jose Farmer (Chose from over 75 novels and hundreds of short story ideas in his career)

Since Riverworld failed on TV, maybe try the World of Tiers series or:

The Green Odyssey
The Stone God Awakens
Wind Whales of Ishmael
Dare
Hadon of Opar Books

Any of his stories could utilize today's CG effects on film really well. He has some mainstream ideas that also wouldn't depend too much on fantasy/special effects.

MB said:

Disagree with Ender's Game. The main characters are all seven year olds. It would end up looking hokey. (Great read though.)

Ringworld would have to be number 1. Or how about Dan Simmons' Hyperion?

Actually, I'm waiting for the Baroque Cycle trilogy, just so I can see a movie with Isaac Newton, et al.

lollercaust said:

It might be neat to see screen adaptations of these, but to be honest none of these books would work as a 2 hour movie so I don't really see why they desperately need movies unless "desperate" means "desperately crappy adaptations that lose 9/10 of the story and or plot."

Voracious Reader said:

Dragon's Egg - Robert L. Forward
The Gaean Trilogy - John Varley

Peter Payne said:

Ben, you stole my comment! I just got done with my nth rereading of "Guns of the South" and DAAAYMN if it doesn't cry out to be made.

Samlon said:

@bASS

Legacy of Heorot FTW!

It would make the best sci-fi action movie in the last 20 years.

When it came out I put it down and started writing a screenplay...oh, my misspent youth.

But imagine those battle scenes and the moment they realize just what is going wrong...?

Wow.

I think I will go and re-read my dog-eared copy now and dream a little, Niven/Pournelle style...

mhv712 said:

What about Hardwired by Walter Williams?
That should be do-able.

Fish Pierce said:

Skip: Dahlgren.
Everytime I read the book I keep trying to imagine it as a movie. It would be harder to do than Dune. Plus, the homosexual sex wouldn't play well in mainstream theaters.

Stranger In A Strange Land
The original Star Trek did an adaptation of SIASL. The episode was called 'Charlie X'. The storyline wasn't faithful to the book. But, yeah, SIASL would be a good movie. Especially now in this climate of Religious VS Atheist that's going on, now.

There are several Heinlein books that aren't the works of art that SIASL is, but would make ripping good movies. Tunnel In The Sky or Starbeast, for instance.

Fish Pierce said:

Oh, and, yeah, definitely Ender's Game.

BrooksFan said:

I am more than a little curious as to why you would completly leave Terry Brooks out of that list as the Shannara Series. The Movie rights have been optioned but nothing is materializing yet. If they make a Shannara movie then there is hope they may start picking up the rest of these books for movies as well.

Ty said:

Wow only one mention of Tad Williams...so many of his books would be amazing in film

cKHAVIKk said:

you're fucking kidding me?!?!?!
145 comments? Jesus Hector Christ!!

gajim said:

Lots of good suggestions already.

I'd second:
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Ringworld
Rama
Foundation
The Stainless Steel Rat (Please!)

And then I'd add the Bolo tales by Keith Laumer, if you haven't read The Complete Bolo, it's your loss.

Craig said:

The last thing we need is Hollywood F%#*ing up good books.

Steve said:

Verhoeven's Starship Troopers was a fun movie, but it most definitely was not Heinlein's Starship Troopers.

Kaste said:

Anything by Jack McDevitt! Lucifer's Hammer would be fantastic. Several of Sheri Tepper's books. Asimov's robot books and/or Foundation series.

BerkeleyHills said:

Cripes...its gonna cost me a fortune to buy some of the books I've missed. I'd vote for the Hyperion series, bring your checkbook. Gateway was a very good text/2D computer game some years ago but it would be great on the big screen. Ah...a reboot of Starship Troopers with power armor. Enders Game is looking great in the Marvel Comic which, truth be told, actually reads and looks like a treatment with a scene board. Ursula is still pissed about how the animation film screwed up her book so she's out. I'd have to agree with a lot of posters about Wizards First Rule. Might be better as a limited run TV series like The Lost Room though. The real problem is that all of the books in this forum have been optioned. Some for not a whole lot of money but the rights are for a whole lot of years. A producer can hang on to the property until hell freezes over. The Dinochrome Brigade, I'm there. But if its was my money on the producing side, Lord Fouls Bane and the rest of the Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever trilogy just to see Saltheart Foamfollower on screen.

Gold said:

Nice list!

I would love to see some Edding's adapted to movie form. I grew up on that great stuff and it would make a smooth transition to film to boot.

Elric is a good choice as well, as is basically anything by Zelazny.

I think the Drizzt Do'Urden books would do well in the box office, as well. They aren't as classic as some mentioned on the list, but Forgotten Realms still has a huge pull with readers and could be adapted without a terrible amount of loss :)

Gill Avila said:

i would love to see "The Postman" done right, maybe on the SciFi Channel. 4 hours seems about right. Also Jack Williamson's "The Humanoids."

Warren said:


JayWicky said: What's wrong with Verhoeven's Starship Troopers, again ?

Heinlein's book is about taking responsibility through (often military) service, and only allowing those willing to put their lives on the line for their society to be involved in government. Verhoeven's movie should have been called "Young NAZIs in Space." Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed the movie quite a bit... at least when I wasn't thinking of the connection to Heinlein. If they had named it something else, and changed the character names, I'd have no problem with it. It's a negation of Heinlein, though... It's like a movie "War and Peace," which is a story of a couple of good time charlies cutting up in Abu Ghraib prison - nothing but madcap action and hi jinx. To use one of my favorite phrases, if Heinlein were alive today, he'd be spinning in his grave.

And, Domhnall, lay off my boy Heinlein... 'Job, a Comedy of Justice' is the result of bad meds at the end of a long and productive life. It would be grotesquely unfair to judge his work by that.

On the Heinlein topic, I'd add "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" to the list as others have done. That one would actually pretty easy to do as a movie, hence inexpensive, as well as appropriate in our current rush to become a socialist state. And I have to give kudos to GreenTurtle for the comment on "Ringworld." That'd be friggin' EPIC. Niven's "Footfall" and "Lucifer's Hammer" would do well, except that "Lucifer's Hammer" would be seen as derivative of various "death from the sky" epics of late. I also concur with turnidoff's inclusion of "Childhood's End." I think short stories make better movies easier than long, complicated novels. It's apparently easier to expand a story with detail than to cut it down to fit a movie time frame.

JoJo suggested the Foundation series by Asimov. Wonderful stories, but it would make the LotR trilogy look like a short feature. It'd have to be four hours a night for a couple weeks. Yikes. (or horribly butchered, of course.)

Chris mentioned the "Sword of Truth" series. Good call. Another mind-bendingly long series though. It is currently being produced as a television series, and is actually kind of good, so far, if you can stand a drastically simplified plot. It's said it should run about a year at an hour a week, for the first book. That makes for a 12 year long series, I suspect... a good, long-term job for an actor...

IMHO, Ron Moses simply nailed the "Stainless Steel Rat" series. Rollicking good fun! (Always wanted to type that)

And, as for the several comments on "Dune," I have to agree. The Lynch version is only good for someone who has already read the book... preferably in the last week. However, there was a version produced by, I believe, the Sci-Fi channel, which did it justice... but was about six hours long.

lollercaust said: It might be neat to see screen adaptations of these, but to be honest none of these books would work as a 2 hour movie so I don't really see why they desperately need movies unless "desperate" means "desperately crappy adaptations that lose 9/10 of the story and or plot."

HA! What an optimist.

pablo said:

Those of you dissing Verhoeven's _Starship Troopers_ obviously didn't get the joke. It's a spoof of fascist propaganda, and it's just the skewering that Heinlein deserves. I love the movie.

Dave said:

How About some Stainless Steel Rat, or Bil the Galactic Hero?

Snoodle said:

Agreed on this list but two words for you:

Good. Omens.

Cabal468 said:

Starship Troopers was an awesome movie in itself, in the context of Heinleins book it wasn't that great of an adaptation. :-) Wasn't Stranger in a Strange Land done as "The Man Who Fell To Earth" with David Bowie?

Aaron Chambers said:

As much as I love SIASL, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress would make a MUCH better novel to film translation.

Alex said:

Hyperion, by Dan Simmons, and the rest of the series. It is rumored to be in the works, but no updates in years. And they're butchering it. The series is four books, which I swear would make four best selling movies

Theo said:

Sorry my nominations list is so long, but please bear with me, I winnowed the list down as much as I could!

anything by:

Emma Bull
Walter Jon Williams
Octavia Butler
Tanith Lee
Gordon Dickson
David Drake
Dave Freer
Allen Steele
Katherine Kerr
Andre Norton
James Schmitz
James Hogan
Richard MacEnroe (esp. "Skinner")
Keith Laumer
Doris Piserchia
Joanna Russ (esp. "The Female Man," that's a mind-bender!)
Joan D. Vinge
Elizabeth Moon
Dean Ing
Atanielle Annyn Noelle

singletons:

"Swordwoman," Robert Howard
"Slan," A.E. Van Vogt
"Blue Limbo," Terence Green
"Bladerunner," Alan Nourse
"Five To Twelve," Edmund Cooper
"Wildside," Steven Gould
"Jumper," Steven Gould, and this time stick to the original story!
"Fallen Angels," Niven,Pournelle, Flynn (the Greenies won't like it, cuz they're the bad guys)
"Red Tape War," Chalker, Resnick, Effinger (funny!!!)
"Fevre Dream," Geo. R. R. Martin (another take on vampires)
"The Armageddon Rag," Geo. R. R. Martin (this is more Dark Horror than fantasy)
"The Eternity Brigade," Stephen Goldin
"Nocturne for a Dangerous Man," Marc Matz
"Witch and Wombat" Carolyn Cushman
"Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers," Harry Harrison

series:

Hellflower, Eluki bes Shahar
Perelandra C.S. Lewis
Dilvish, Roger Zelazny
Kent Montana, Lionel Fenn
Honor Harrington, David Weber
Peace Company, Roland Green
Hawk and Fisher, Simon Green
War World, Jerry Pournelle
Santiago, Mike Resnick
Wild Cards, Geo. R. R. Martin
Borderlands, ed. by Terri Wildling
Man-Kzin Wars ed. by Larry Niven
Janna Brill and "Mama" Maxwell, Lee Killough
"The People," Zenna Henderson (ego-boo for teachers)
"Coyote Jones," Suzette Haden Elgin
Dracula, Fred Saberhagen
Berserker, Fred Saberhagen
Alien, Lynn Hightower
Thieves World, ed. Lynn Abbey and Rob Asprin
Lord Darcy, Randall Garrett
Garrett P.I., Glen Cook
Black Company, Glen Cook
Chicks In Chainmail, Esther Friesner
Northwest Smith, C.L. Moore
Myth, Robert Asprin (might be better as an anime)

Patrick said:

Any one of the books/series by Guy Gavriel Kay would translate quite readily to the big screen, especially "The Lions of Al-Rassan" or "Tigana"

Scott said:

The Gap series by Donaldson should also be up for consideration.

The Real Story
Forbidden Knowledge
A Dark and Hungry God Arises
Chaos and Order
This Day All Gods Die

How can you not win with those titles?

scott said:

How 'bout Timothy Zahn's Cobra series?
Or Eric Flint's ring of fire series?
And can't forget John Ringo's Posleen War series!!

m said:

a wrinkle in time

Toby O'B said:

I always thought Larry Niven's "Integral Trees"/"Smoke Ring" story would make for a great movie, and even got the chance to tell him on a call-in radio show. Possibly best as a CGI animation since it might be difficult to find so many long-limbed people with finger-like toes.....

altrocks said:

What, no Gaiman?

Eddie said:

Agree with Stranger in a Strange Land. Don't understand why the following wern't included:
Asimov's classic - The Foundation Trilogy
early 60's classic - The Mind Thing
late 60's classic - Mind Swap
80's classic - Neuromancer

Also what's wrong with Starship Troopers????

machineghost2002 said:

I'd like to see Battlefield Earth by Hubbard redone more along the lines of the book.

I totally agree with anything by David Eddings done as a movie. Well, at least the Belgariad or Mallorean. Wouldn't mind the Elenium or Tamuli series either.

What i'd love to see most is Virtual Light, Idoru, and All Tomorrows Parties by William Gibson. Those were fantastic and I think would make the transition to screen very easily.

Mark Thoman said:

I can only add a couple
- The Books of the Lost Swords and the Berserker series by Fred Saberhagen, as miniseries'.
- The Weapons Shops of Isher by A.E. van Vogt. Good luck with that.
- Jack of Shadows by Roger Zelazny as a movie.
- Neverwhen by Neil Gamon as a movie. Mind the gap.

Booky McBookhound said:

What a great thread! My pick - though it will never ever get made in this country - A Door Into Ocean by Joan Slonczewski. It's got war, humor, well drawn characters, an entire planet of naked women where most of the action takes place, and my fave - Quakers in space. They even get to win.

For all you who (like me) will skip paying rent this month, instead going on a book-buying spree when you get done reading this thread, may I remind you that Alibris is the best place to buy cheap used books? They use the inventory databases of used bookstores all over the country, so if you buy a bunch of books you might get several packages arriving over several days, but otherwise they're great.

gerber said:

It is said that TOTAL RECALL was adapted from Martian Time Slip by PK Dick, but that cannot be true. If anyone has read Martian Time Slip, it might be good enough for the sci fi channel. You could shoot it in Arizona in about two weeks.
I really liked that book, as I liked many other books of PKDick's, when he kind of got into the interesting and darker aspects of schizophrenia and drugs.
PK Dick lived in Santa Ana CA about the same time I did. I could have met him, but just never knew.

I see FOUNDATION a lot up there, I would take the trilogy and make it two movies. End the first movie right at the high point of the MULE drama. Hard to imagine it being three movies. Maybe make three movies out of the four books.

MU KAO said:

Dark Tower series from King could be a hell of a set of movies .. if handled by a director who really really groks the story, and with a good budget, done (visually) along the lines of LotR and the Harry Potter films. But it could be done horribly wrong very easily .. like just about every film adaptation of a Stephen King story I've seen. I'm not a huge King fan, but something about the Dark Tower just grabbed me.

Kevin J Anderson's 'Saga of the Seven Suns' could kick ass. Niven/Pournelle's Mote In Gods Eye would r0x0r my b0x0r, especially if followed up by The Gripping Hand.

JMG said:

Harry Harrison's "Deathworld" trilogy is hands down the best SF movie that's not been made into a movie. And it wouldn't be terribly hard or (relatively) expensive, as these things go. It must be optioned somewhere -- who's sitting on it?

gerber said:

OK. This is really stretching it, but if John Carter makes it, then here goes.

Magnus Robot Fighter.

Does anyone know what I am talking about without googling it? I know it is a comic book, but I think it counts as a John Carter type of thing. I used to read the originals... SIGH.

Probably anyone reading this could buy the rights to it, get Michael Bay to direct it, and make a gajillion dollars. Dont worry about messing up the original. It would be hard to do.

Chris said:

I want to see The Assassin series by Robin Hobb. It could be pulled off, and is a wonderful epic story...albeit in 9 parts. One of the best ever...

Deathstalker by Simon R. Green would be a good sci-fi movie/series.

Anything by John Ringo (Ghost might be too graphic though).

Spudnik said:

Mote In Gods Eye
World out of Time
Ring World
Protector
Riverworld series, and maybe some of PJF earlier works
Man In The High Castle
Voyage of the Space Beagle by A.E. Van Vogt
Nomad of Time series and The Dancers at the End of Time
by Michael Moorcock
Saga of Pliocene Exile and Galactic Milieu by Julian May

Reag-a-leg said:

- Just the mention of Bill the Galactic Hero being made into a movie makes me grin. In the right hands, it would be a riot.

- Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat would be great as a series of movies. I liken diGriz to a combination of Indiana Jones and Simon Templar. Since he's a master of disguise, and often went to great lengths to change his appearance, I would suggest that more than one actor be chosen to play diGriz.

- Also, Harrison's Deathworld series would be great. And how about The Technicolor Time Machine?

- I would choose Terry Gilliam to do Man in the High Castle. Another of PKD's books that would be great is Radio Free Albemuth. Also, Time Out of Joint would be great.

- Someone mentioned A Canticle for Leibowitz. I would put that near the top of my list.

- Fredric Brown's Martians Go Home is ripe for a remake -- done properly, of course (as opposed to stupidly, like the 1991 adaptation).

- I vote against The Foundation series being made into a movie (notice I said "a movie"). It is far too immense. It would have to be broken up into a trilogy of trilogies, plus one or more mini-series and possibly some faux-documentaries covering Harry Seldon and the Encyclopedia project. For this reason, it probably will never be done.

- For Asimov, I would vote for Pebble in the Sky, The End of Eternity, and Caves of Steel (which should be a TV mini-series).

- For Clarke, I would vote for Childhood's End, and The City and the Stars.

- Heinlein (sigh) is a tough one. His later books are just... well... drivel. I would choose some of his early works, like Methuselah's Children, or Revolt in 2100, or even The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I Will Fear No Evil (1970) was probably his last good novel, but Time Enough for Love (1973) borders on "drivel" -- that's when he lost my attention. After that, I couldn't read past the first chapter of any of his later books.

- Frank Herbert's Destination: Void would be great; with the option of continuing with the follow-up novels. Done properly, it could be a real mind-bender. Also, White Plague -- it wouldn't require an outlandish budget, either -- and, it would dovetail nicely with today's current events.

- Larry Niven's Crashlander, which is a novel created from related short stories, including Neutron Star.

- A.E. van Vogt's The Voyage of the Space Beagle, another novel created from related short stories.

- Silverberg's The Book of Skulls and Tom O'Bedlam. His Majipoor novels should be made into a cable TV series.

- E.R. Burroughs has a wealth of material that should be adapted to TV and film.

- Any H.P. Lovecraft [et al], especially (since we're talking sci-fi, here) the Cthulhu Mythos. I say "et al" because the Lovecraft universe includes books written by many other authors, including August Derleth, Lin Carter, John Campbell, etc. Might I suggest starting with The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath, or The Call of Cthulhu, or At the Mountains of Madness.

- Any of William Gibson's novels or short stories.

Cheers!

Chris said:

I almost forgot- Asimov's robot novels... preferably the detective series (Caves of Steel, etc).

Reag-a-leg said:

@gerber:

Yes, I remember Magnus Robot Fighter from my childhood. I was a rabid reader of all the "graphic novels". In fact, MRF has been on my mind, quite a bit, since I've been on a robot kick, lately. I went back and read all of Asimov's robot works, and even read Karel Capek's R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots). But, alas, I can't find any of the Magnus Robot Fighter series, anywhere. It's ripe not only for a film or TV adaptation, but also a re-release in book form.

Cheers!

dvwyn03 said:

Ok,,,,, How about

Way Station by Clifford Simak. Fantastic story, could be well adapted... Hell even Will Smith could play Enoch Wallace... lol

Nunya said:

I'll see your Starship Troopers nomination, and raise you John Steakly's 'Armor'. It's really what starship troopers should have been. Intellectual and gripping in ways that a movie screen would be the perfect venue for. The adaptation of his book 'Vampire$' notwithstanding.

bluesbob said:

I hear that Joe Haldeman's "Forever War" has been picked up by a studio and may be made into a movie. If they nail that one it should be fantastic.

The Gaea series, "Titan", "Wizard", and "Demon" by John Varley would be nearly impossible to make, but it would be killer if they made that one into a trilogy.

Another difficult to film, but awesome book(s) would be Dan Simmon's "Hyperion" series. I would love to see that on the big screen someday.

PFH Fan said:

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Peter F. Hamilton
yet.

The Night's Dawn Trilogy would make a fantastic tale on the
big screen. Sentient trader starships, genetic engineering,
kids, heros and villians, the dead taking over bodies,
just-in-time escapes, it's real edge-of-your-seat over-the-
top space-opera stuff.

The Reality Disfunction
The Neutronium Alchemist
The Naked God

His Commonwealth stories would be a great tale as well.
Pandora's Star
Judas Unchained
The Dreaming Void (set 1500 years after Judas Unchained)
The Temporal Void (I'm just started to read)
The Evolutionary Void (PFH is yet to finish it)

IronWolve said:

Man-Kzin Wars
Stainless Steel Rat series

Peter said:

What about "Hyperion" by Dan Simmons? The Shrike would be cool to see on film.

Domhnall said:

@Warren,re: Job, yeah, ok, I can go with that, you shouldn't judge the man's entire opus from one item. Perhap's I just don't have an 'ear' attuned to his writing style...but horses for courses etc.I completely agree with many of the other posters though, this thread will inform my book buying for some time to come, particularly the items that appear to be recent (have gotten a bit fossilised in my buying habits of late, returning to the same authors I know I like). I am also intrigued to references to films I have never seen or heard of - EarthSea, Riverworld etc. - maybe never got a release in Europe? On that topic, anyone remeber the first LOTR film? Late 1970-something I think, my dad brought me. Animation mixed with live action footage (but distorted and hand coloured), scared the hell out of me...

Katida said:

I find your lack of Zindell disturbing.

Neverness series by David Zindell.

Needs to be a movie sooo bad.

Ed Strode said:

I have to agree I love the Edding series, but I always thought they;d be better handled by the Sci-fi channel as a min-series. With the amount of character development and the humor in Eddings work it really deserves more than 2 hours.

I think they did a pretty good job on the couple of Dune series. Well much better than the movie although I must admit having seen the movie long before reading the book I thought as a movie it was good, as a interpretation of a great book it was horrible.

I will also agree with the one poster who wished for a more true interpretation of Battlefield Earth. I like John Travolta but how someone who pushed for the movie like he did could be proud of such a mockery of the written word I'll never know.

It is a fabulous book, full of action and social commentary. Yes you are forced to believe that one simple man learns in a startling short time how to defeat an entire interuniverse empire. But the societal commentary that explains why it happens is quite good.

Anonymous said:

Not a single Terry Brooks book or series mentioned?
What's up with that?

AL said:

I completeley agree with Amber, Stranger in a Strange Land, Barsoom...but let me add - Wheel of time series, Rings of the Master series.... Ringworld series.... a REAL Dune adaptation.... The White Dragon from the Pern series.... Death Rides a Pale Horse.... The Steel, The Mist and the Blazing Sun.... The Berserker Wars.... The Dosadai Experiment.... Foundation and Empire....a REAL Kull adaption.... the Heechee Saga....the Changeling/Madwand....
SO many more that are better than the drivel Hollywood is putting out these days.

Aunty Proton said:

At one point in time Wendy Pini (if Elfquest fame) was trying to produce an Elric animated movie. She did it while she was in college and later published most of her work as a book, but never finished it as a movie. A pity, since her artwork for it was stunning.

roystgnr said:

When "The skewering that Heinlein deserved" had to change so many major plot points, it should have become obvious that it was actually "The strawman that reading comprehension would have prevented".

Viking said:

Frank Herbert's White Plague has been mentioned once. It wouldn't be a huge budget, is timely to current mentality (a plague is released that only kills women. Social decay and slip into insanity by the author of the plague as he helps find a cure to his own disease). Not unlike Children of Men.
Now that LotR has made the technology possible, the Dragonriders books could be adapted. Though Eragon really soured the market for dragon movies.
What Tolkein fan would not love to see some chapters of Silmarillion turned into movies. "Flight of the Noldor" anybody? "Turin Turambar"? "Beren and Luthien" (Battle action, love story with strong female character, Sauron as a werewolf, and a loyal dog.)?

webray said:

Sorry, like many here, I'm mixing SF with Fantasy...I'm giving a strong vote to Edgar Rice Burroughs' Barsoom series, but I would add his Carson Napier on Venus series to the list.

Here is several I'd like to add:

1) Keith Laumer's Retief books
2) Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser series
3) Glen Cook's Garrett Files (except the alien one, ugh)
4) Jim Butcher's Harry Dresden series (how about an actual interpetation, a stupid hockey stick, give me a freaking break...)
5) Karl Edward Wagner's Kane series (very dark, very cool)

Also, can someone please adapt anything by Robert E. Howard and stick to the book!...Conan hasn't been done yet, that original Arnold movie was terrible, nothing (except his name and country) was right, even the villian was