wow. i'm speechless.

I was actually wondering if Deadpool and Weapon XI were the same storyline wise. It would make sense for a film studio to do something like that and it'd explain the confusion with the characters.

Not being a huge Deadpool fan, the weird changes don't bug me like all the weird changes for X3, but still, it's disappointing that they have to do this.

And besides, from the trailers, I would think thematically this film would be about Wolverine and Sabretooth: their time together, being recruited by Stryker, and then the falling out. Why the whole "Super End Boss with Everyone's Power" angle that makes this sound like a video game? It's like someone had a game but no movie tie-in. Tail wagging the dog, indeed.

Still, looking forward to it. Gotta wash X3's bad taste out of my mouth.

This is just.... awful. I was so optimistic about there being Deadpool in the film, them doing a Deadpool spin-off, and the world getting Deadpool-fever. What an incredible buzz kill. Thamks Fox. *swigs from flask*

Eh, they fucked up Lady Deathstrike something awful in X-Men 2 and it was still an incredible movie, so while this seems a little silly, it doesn't feel like it'll ruin it or anything.

Honestly, I'm just glad to hear that all these other damn mutants are cameos.

Did your insider explain how Victor Creed/Sabretooth grows another foot between Wolverine and X-Men 1? That's a bitchin' mutant power...

Patrick Stewart != Professor X == FAIL!

I hate hollywood. So fucking much. Is there any point in raping a charecter? Why would they not just have Weapon XI as XI? WHy give him a popular charecters name?

Actually thinking on this I am calling BS on the tipster. Why would there be all those reshoots for 10min of content in the finished movie? No way was there reshoots just for 10min of film time.

Did I mention I hate hollywood and wish that jackels would rape a majority of the people that write movies?

THANKS TR!!! i mean, that's a loaded "thanks" because i'm truly disappointed about how things turned out for Deadpool, but at least i'm not being held in suspense forever on this (May is still a couple of months away!!!). i wonder why they did that? why even use the Deadpool name? that's too bad. just seems like a waste. as for the Professor stuff, that's sweet. but how will they explain away the fact that Cyke and Wolvie don't remember each other in X-Men? mind wiping? goofy resolution.

Why the fuck would a Professor X cameo NOT be played by Patrick Stewart? Are they dumb?

what kind of horse shit is that ugh... fox is slowly eating away at my soul.

Ya' know, I think that this is just one of life's undeniable truths- that as long as Hollywood can make money off of superhero movies, they'll continue to treat well established characters with years and years of developed back story as BLANK CANVASES. Let's look at some examples, shall we? Deadpool aside, you have Superman Returns giving us an unexpected inter-planetary 'baby daddy', X-3 turning any of the Phoenix's coolness into overblown Jean Grey exorcist bitch fit, Elektra in to a moody and extremely non-lethal ninja, and some gussied up fetish version rip off of Catwoman designed for all those guys who ever wanted to see Halley Berry and Sharon Stone duke it out. And don't even get me started on Transformers and the abortion that will likely be GI Joe.
Earth to Hollywood producers and writers- create your OWN characters and leave our well established and extremely cool characters alone.

I guess that answers the "Will Deadpool have a mask in the movie" question too...

Yea you get to see him in the new trailer, the Weapon XI, he does look pretty freakin' cool, and it's definitely the best trailer for the movie yet, now I really want to see this series.

So, the "merc with the mouth" has his mouth sewn shut? Makes it kind of hard to let loose with the witty quips, huh?

I'm usually the first person in the world to roll my eyes when fanboys get bent out of shape that a detail was changed from the comics to the movie but... this is too much. This isn't even Deadpool. Outside of Ryan Reynolds probably making quips at the beginning nothing about this character is even remotely like Deadpool.

Here's hoping he lives through the movie, has his power downgraded and can go back to being Ryan Reynolds for a Deadpool movie where he puts the damned mask on.

Right now I'm seriously bumming.

I don't know why everyone is getting so bent out of shape about this. Its the Wolverine film not Deadpool. Its not like they still can't make a Deadpool film set before the events of the Wolverine film.

"Its not like they still can't make a Deadpool film set before the events of the Wolverine film."

Oh yeah, a prequel of a prequel awesome idea White Devil... or should I call you by your real name... George Lucas!?

Actually a single claw would be much more effective than three claws in parallel. A blade is basically a wedge. It is easier to force a single wedge through an object than forcing three of them through the same object at the same time.

I like Reynolds so I would have preferred more screen time. I have no attachment to the character of Deadpool however.

"Its not like they still can't make a Deadpool film set before the events of the Wolverine film."

Wow, that's just straight-up wrong. Wade Wilson wasn't even "Deadpool" until the hospice/Weapon X experiment. A movie before Weapon X would just be "Some Guy Who Killed Wade Wilson to Take His Name" and 45 minutes long.

Actually...I'd still watch that. But you're still wrong.

Cheer up, guys. Eventually FOX will lose the film rights to X-Men properties and they'll revert back to Marvel Studios, and then we'll get something a bit more true to the comics.

Just wait. It will happen.

Patrick Stewart probably didn't want to make this movie, that's why the Professor isn't gonna be played by him.

First, I am an avid Deadpool fan. Second, I hope and pray that when the movie is said and done, Deadpool is scarred beyond recognition and looses all of the super-powers, with the exclusion of the healing powers.

Basically the way I'm hoping the writers are setting up Deadpool and giving him his powers, instead of his original back-story that we know and love; Ryan Reynolds plays the pre-scarred Wade Wilson, or the Wade Wilson pre-genetic manipulation (his healing powers were given, Deadpool was never a mutant). So Ryan's Deadpool gets his cancer as cannon and instead of volunteering for the second Weapon-X he volunteers for the first. Instead of a simple here are healing powers to take care of cancer, he gets a here's power after power after eyeglowing power. Then I pray that he gets beat to a bloody pulp, looses all powers except healing powers that keep the cancer away (and screw up the skrulls) and becomes the crazy merc with a mouth with a running (sometimes) internal dialogue.

I hope and pray they don't just kill him off at the end.

Meh, im still holding out.

This is how i think they "unrape" deadpool. FIRST, The powers they give him are cut from him by wolvie, al la lazer beam eyes and his arms. He regenerates but without the powers. He can keep telaportation because that is somewhat true to the character.

Second, His mouth is sewn shut by the doctors there because he wont stop crakin wise. That has to be the reason.

C. Well i dont realy have a c, other than he will most likely have a scene after the credits explaining what i just said. they can give him powers as long as their not permanent. So yes, im still not jumping ship and i still have hope.

Here's what I don't understand. What's to gain by using the name deadpool, but not using the actual the character? Non-comic readers aren't going to be drawn to the movie because Deadpool is in it, and comic readers are just going to be pissed that they screwed up Deadpool. It's a lose lose scenario. If you want a weapon XI, just call him weapon XI, or give him a completely new name.

I just realized what happened.
FOX said...
Dumb Person #1 "Hey! We need to have a mutant that has a shitload of powers that can really give Wolverine a run-for-his-money. Make the audience believe that Wolverine might not be able to defeat this mutant."

Dumb Person #2 "Well, in the X-Men comics, there is this Character named Mimic, who has multiple powers from various members of the X-Men, like Cyclops Optic Blasts, Wolverines Healing Factor and Claws, etc etc"

Dumb Person #1 "I like it. But who is this Mimic character you are talking about? I never heard of Mimic. Not that I have ever read a single comic book in my life. Will the general public know who this Mimic character is?"

Dumb Person #2 "Probably not sir. He has been irrellevant for the last 30+ years."

Dumb person #1 "I got it. Lets use this Mimic person, and instead of calling him Mimic, we will call him Deadpool"

Dumb Person #2 "Excellent idea sir. Deadpool is a character that many fans have been clammoring for years to see in the X-Men related movies. We'll call him Deadpool. That should make all the X-Men and comic fans happy.
They are finally going to get what they wanted."

Dumb person #1 "Yes, I agree. We are giving the fans exactly what they have been asking for.
What could they possible complain about now?"

And that is how we got our Deadpool catastrophy.

What do you think? Am i dead on?

No. You're a fucking tool.

It would've made sense to me if for some reason deadpool's swords broke near the handle and so he just strapped them onto his arms like wolverines, kinda to just fuck with him. "Hey logan! Look what i got too!"

but hats all I could explain away. The albino and tattoo... I dunno.

Wow. Thanks Andrew. You are so kind.
So nice to have a blatant insult like that.
Tough guy.

Okay, not that I doubt your source, but if this is true, then why the hell is weapon XI listed as a different actor if it's the same character? WTF is wrong with Hollywood. Also, your friend confuses me. Better than X3? Maybe it's just me, but I thought X3 was pretty good. Not accurate at all, but a good character driven story. X2 was a better movie, but yeah. Also, the first X-men was a huge joke. I mean seriously, yeah it got stuff started, but go back and rewatch it. It's ridiculous. Personally I can not watch that movie EVER again without the Rifftrax.

InstantClassic7

That is actually a good idea on how this mess happened.

I still think the source is BS however, oh and I saw the toys at my local TRU today, I can't go back there, and I may have made some of Jerry's Kids cry

Don't forget they made Wolverine's powers his claws!

Well, I guess they had to fuck it up somehow. This is Fox we're talking about after all.

I liked X-3 the most, heh.

But thank you, tipster guy, for giving me a confirmed good reason to possibly avoid this film.

@ Dork

Wolverines powers include his claws. Remember, they are bone coated in admantium. Read some of the stuff from the early 90's tofind out.

You hear that sound?

That's the sound of me projectile vomiting my intestines up between the Deadpool bullshit and the Re-Animator fuck-ups abound this week.

Fuck Hollywood. Seriously.

I love pitch meetings:

- So great work on the script. Just a couple of thoughts. Minor tweaks. We want the villain to mimic everyone's powers.
- So you want Mimic. Or, uh... evil Mimic.
- Totally! Except we call him (runs his finger down a demographic study of favorite characters) wolverine...magneto...gambit...Ooo! Deadpool.
- The insane killer with the swords and the mask and the quips and the meta-comic shtick. Who never mimics anyone. Ever.
- Absolutely! One hundred percent that dude. Just without the swords or the mask or the quips. And whatever the fuck a "meta-whatsis" is.
- Sounds like a cool idea. But maybe don't call him Deadpool. Because you say the name and people expect "the merc with the mouth."
- Exactly! Except no mouth. See, I was tweaking on coke last night and saw this crazy ass medical show on Discovery and I was like, holy shit, we'll sew our dude's mouth shut. Which is sweet, because the guy we got kind of sucks, so I figure not so much with the talky-talky.
- You hired Ryan Reynolds not to talk?
- No, we hired HIM for ten minutes, because that's all the studio would pony up for an untested character and the dude from the BLADE that killed the franchise. I'm talking about the jagoff we plucked from some bus stop and shoehorned into the role. It's fucking genius.
- Whatever. I don't care. You can have five guys play him and dress them all in a chimp suits. Just stop fucking calling him Deadpool.
- Well, if you're gonna get all negative, I guess he could do some funny stuff. Like some mime shit or something.
- Sure. Mime-ic. We'll open to a hundred mil easy.

@cerebe - you've got it just right. It's just a fast way to set up the character for a new audience. He'll hopefully lose his powers (and possible spikes) fast and become the Deadpool we know.
If they'd follow it up with a handheld, blair witch-esque Deadpool move, made by "him", where he exposes the stupidity of being a masked hero and fucks villains up, all would be well.

If they kill Deadpool off, it's not like he can't come back...

WAIT... THIS IS SAVEABLE...

REMEMBER HOW DEADPOOL KILLED WADE WILSON FOR HIS NAME, SO THE "REAL" DEADPOOL CAN JUST OFF THIS WEAPON XI ABORTION AND EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL... RIGHT? RIGHT>?!1!

You know, Fox could be doing this as a cover-up. Think about it, Deadpool is the one character out there that everyone likes and wants to see him in a movie, and they finally put him in a movie. Then there is a rumor that he's not going to be the real Deadpool. Do you think that Fox could just be pulling a Michael Bay, and sending out false rumors and pictures, and that maybe, just maybe, the Deadpool that we all know and love will be in the movie as himself? What do you guys think?

This is exactly what I knew would happen with Fox in control. I think Tom Rothman was raped by a comic book fan when he was a child, or something...

*MORE INSIDER SPOILERS*

Best part of the movie is when Deadpool gives birth.

Also, Creed kills Dumbledore.

So "What happens to a frog that's been hit by lightning? the same thing that happens to everything else." in X1 was good writing but X3 was bad. I don't get how everyone thinks this.

I absolutely am not going to see this movie, wich is what I said about the last 2 X-Men movies, but I really mean it this time...

Okay, this movie is officially dead for me.

ok, because of Deadpool's thoroughly jacked-up/muddled background story, it is quite possible for them to salvage this... I'm hoping... no, this is going to blow.
damn... they seriously could have KILLED OFF Wolverine and it wouldn't have messed this movie up, but Deadpool? That is just wrong...

MIMIC dammit!!!!!

That isn't weapon XI it can't be it is a freakin Baraka from MORTAL KOMBAT painted up you can even see the sharp "sharke like" teeth. That you clearly think means that his mouth is sewn shut. it has to been a trick. or a figure company getting very lazy and wanting to get rid of left overs.

Personally, I thought all the changes in the third movie made up for all the retarded changes in the first movie. Magneto would never have an evil plot that retarded.

The second movie just needed a real bad guy.

The thing that pisses me off is that in the comic Weapon XI (or supposed Weapin XI) is Wolverines son in one book...and Strykers in a different one. I personally like Strykers son being it but I guess Fox must have its way...bastards

Hmm... I wonder if they're trying to give a new meaning to "Deadpool"? In the comics, Wade got his moniker from a betting game (the dead pool) where other test subjects bet on whom would die next from the horrendous experimentations.

If this info is accurate, then "Deadpool" is a collective power "pool" of sorts. I wonder how the "dead" part fits in? The killing factor, possibly? Who knows.

I just hope he loses all of the powers except the healing, then has his own movie.

THIS IS WRONG!!! I got so excited seeing Deadpool apear in Hulk Vs. He was perfect, exactly what I wanted...and now this. Reynolds was perfect casting. The chracters abilities and personality are easy enough. So the spandex suit would have been much, give him black fatigues with red highlights and accents and a red mask. I dont care. BUT NOT THIS "Power Pool," scarred up crap. COME ON FOX! First you try to stop/delay Watchmen, then you F@ck up my favorite character. Seriously?!? And have the nerve to ask us if we want a spin-off? God I'm with you on this Mitchelle, if he does get them, he better lose them and be even more scarred up. Oh and unsew his mouth. MERC WITH A MOUTH...HELLO!!!

Oh, for fuck's sake. I actually hoped that they might do something decent with this, but I am guessing it is to much to ask for. There is a possibility that there will be a way that they can salvage this and show Deadpool the way he is meant to be, but I find it highly unlikely. As mentioned before, it is more likely that they are simply excreting this out like an overbaked turd, ready for the multiplexes this summer with little or no reverence to the source material and an eye on the money to be made.

Thank you Fox, thank you very much.

In fact, just do us all a favour and give the rights back to Marvel? We might actually get a decent movie out of you then, fucktards.

I don't get this "at least its Deadpool" stuff. Whatever happened to "if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck and looks like a duck"? Deadpool is a basically normal guy with a healing factor, insane skills with weapons and a big, funny comment spewing, fourth-wall breaking mouth. If this "Deadpool" has multiple powers, can't talk and doesn't even wear the whole costume, he's Deadpool in name only. That means they're using the name to lure people in. Has a lure ever been used to bring people to something good? Because I only ever see them in traps.

The thing thats even worse about it is that it would have been far, far easier to make "Deadpool", Deadpool. No CG lasers, no weird fake claws, no making the actor, whoever it turns out to be, walk around with his mouth shut. Just scar make-up and eventually that awesome zoot suit. They were so determined to do it wrong that they went the extra mile for it. Maybe they thought making Deadpool right would have required good writers and since good writers would create something rather than churn it out, they didn't use them. And hey, if they're gonna do wrong, why not run with it? Why not give him eye lasers and claws? And why not throw in a teenage son and a talking dog? How about a cameo by Blind Alfred, played by Vivica Fox? Or Samuel L. Jackson as Weasel?

faking a bad Deadpool seems counter productive.

Since the movie is not out an unofficial information is being put out on the web you might wanna check Ryan's interview with MTV. IT'S NOT DEADPOOL! Ryan actually talks Deadpool's scars and ha no idea what the interviewer is asking him about.

FYI they fucked up the character. He has nothing in common with the comic book version we all know and love and Wolvie cuts his head off at the end of the movie. This movie sucks ass. Spiderman 3 all over again.

Ok... Sorry if these little points were made but I couldn't read through ALL of the the whining.

I've seen a rough cut of the movie as I'm sure most of you have by now but... Just in case:

1. It IS Deadpool whether you wanna believe it or not.

2. They are not CLAWS they are Wade's Katana swords that come out of his hands.

3. Professor X wasn't played by Patrick Stewart because this was MANY YEARS earlier and that would have been just STUPID.

Ok, hope I cleared that up or made it worse. *winks*

Oh, I forgot to mention.

The reason it's NOT Ryan Reynolds at the end as the Weapon XI/Deadpool, is because it's just one huge fight scene so they used a stuntman.

Believe me, if they do a Deadpool movie and they probably will because Ryan was AWESOME, he'll be the star.

And that's just MY opinion.

Yeah, it's Deadpool.
However, I would like to say that the movie is actually pretty good... other than the part that they completely screwed up my favorite character...
Ryan Reynolds did a good job as him in the beginning, but he's only in the movie for like 10 minutes.
Why don't they get a comic book fan to write these movies?
I hope they can find a way to give him his own movie... but who's to say that they wouldn't just mess things up more?

Given the fact how film departs from their comic book counter parts, it's no suprise that they turn the tables on giving the "merc with a mouth" a "deadpool" collection of powers from other mutants. Although it's annoying to see them drift from the actual concept of the comic characters, the thing is that this doesn't have to follow the main universe in which most of the comic book characters live in (the many different multiple verisons). It is sad to see how the "merc with a mouth" becomes Weapon XI, hell I don't even remember a Weapon XI in the comics but eh, what can you do?

If your a Deadpool fan like me then Fox just fucked us over royally. They are stupid too because beheading the main character of what could have been a very lucrative film franchise is just plain idiotic.

When it comes to sticking to the comic,(and I mean as a basic guide rather than verbatim) Fox has proved that their name is an acronym. FOX- Fucked-Over-X-men. Killing off Deadpool and turning him into that genetic cluster fuck they called weapon 11 was proof positive Fox has no clue what their customers want. Well Fox, listen and listen good. Avengers, Hulk and Iron Man Sequels; will not recieve a dime of my money. I'm boycotting you from here on out.

"beheading the main character of what could have been a very lucrative film franchise is just plain idiotic."

dane cook in a gimp mask isn't a lucrative character.

If any of you would have stayed after the credits, you would know, deadpool's alive.His Body Grabs His Head, and it makes a hushing sound...

all of you have it backwards. Deadpool did not do Ryan Reynolds justice.

I can't believe how much they screwed Deadpool/Wade Wilson!

Things they did wrong:

1. He does not have Cyclops' eye beam!
2. His mouth being locked closed! What type of crap is that! The thing that makes Deadpool who he is, is that he is always making jokes and bad mouthing people.
3. He uses swords, he doesn't have them in his hands. (who ever thought up that should be shoot)
Sum up: HIS CHARACTER GOT SCREWED!

However, first half of the movie he rocked!!!

I think they really wanted to borrow characteristics of Mimic since they'll probably never use that character in a movie and that type of idea would sell. Given that Deathpool has an amazing healing factor, they figured they could do whatever the hell they want with him and it'd be alright because he can just be fixed afterwards. Heh, I like how people are flipping out about his mouth being sewn up... it can be opened back up easily. And as far as him being beheaded, anyone who knows Deadpool's character knows that he's been decapitated in the comics and life has been restored to him just by reattaching his head.

At first I hated it and thought it was cheesy as hell. But, then I thought that this could make his character even more dynamic. Usually, I prefer things to follow as closely to the comics as possible, but lets face it, just because it was originally written a certain way doesn't mean it's the best story. And even in comics, stories are often modified at least a little to add complexity or introduce different aspects or characters.

For the most part, I was more impressed with the movie than I thought I was going to be. I was mostly unimpressed with the later X-Men movies, but this one was pretty badass.

I nearly fell off the couch when Wolverine backhands Gambit, seeing as I know their relationship in the older X-Men titles. Putting these stories to film isn't going to be perfect. Having FOX thrown in the mix usually doesn't make things better. But I think this movie went over pretty well.

As far as Deathpool goes, I guess we'll have to wait for his self-titled film in 2011~.