
Marvel has solicited a 5-issue Captain America series called Reborn by Ed Brubaker and Bryan Hitch for July. John Cassaday and Alex Ross are doing additional covers. Marvel refuses to say what the series is about. You do the math.
I admit, I'm a bit disappointed. I mean, we all knew Marvel was going to bring back Steve Rogers eventually, but it's only been two years. I know a lot of comic characters are dead for much less than that, but very few of them get replacements as awesome and gripping as Brubaker's Bucky. I just think there were a lot more stories left to tell with Bucky as Cap before we unthawed Steve's corpse for the second time (or whatever). Thoughts? (Via Robot 6)
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AdamW said:
It seems like a fake-out. I doubt they'd do it this soon and be so obvious about it.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:10:45 AM
Zach said:
I'm choosing to believe that this isn't what it seems. I don't know what else it could be, but seriously, that cheapens everything that has been going on in Marvel for the past couple years. If they really are bringing Steve back to life then I'm pretty sure I'm done buying comics....for good.
Captain America is one of my three favorite heroes (marvel or otherwise) and to do this is just taking a huge shit on the fans and the character of Steve Rogers.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:15:58 AM
MerlinTWizard said:
You say it's too soon, I say it's not soon enough. The choice to kill Steve Rogers was retarded to begin with.
Now we just need to get Spider-Man remarried to MJ and Jean Grey resurrected and married to Scott Summers. What's wrong with a little bit of happiness in the lives of our superheroes?
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:18:22 AM
Zach R said:
I would guess they're doing it to start drumming up the name for when the movie eventually comes out.
After reading comics for 20+ years these kind of shenanigans no longer surprise me.
Also, after watching Heroes, everything else seems less retarded than that.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:22:04 AM
LBD "Nytetrayn" said:
Eh, that's Marvel. Killing an angle before its full story potential can be realized.
Unless it's one that sucks to begin with, i.e. BND.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:30:37 AM
Wesley said:
I'm guessing it was always the plan for them to bring back Cap at this point in Bucky's career.
Either that, or Brubaker had it in his contract that he got to bring Cap back when he wanted, and *HE* can't come up with many more stories for Bucky.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:50:04 AM
sammon1013 said:
there's still time to flesh out the story... and hopefully to have him wake petey parker up and then both stomp on norman osborn for wrecking the country. maybe this will be what snaps tony back and brings nick fury full circle.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:51:12 AM
Bill said:
I figured that Marvel would bring Cap back via a back door, like in the Avengers (similar to how they reintroduced him way back in the Avengers #4). Calling this series "Reborn" seems to obvious to me. I think it may be a misdirect.
Steve Rogers WILL be back thou. Mark my words.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 12:13:41 PM
ranchoth said:
So...is there like a updating ticker page or something where I can check which Marvel characters are currently dead?
And hear, hear, MerlinTWizard...though an impish part of me just imagined a ressurected Jean getting back together with Spider-Man, for some reason. (God help MJ if she had to shack up with Cyclops, though. Maybe she could try Deadpool?)
Posted 04/22/2009 at 12:29:26 PM
Teague said:
I agree with Zach; until otherwise proven, I'm going to believe that this is a promo for something other than Steve's return. Could be John Walker, could be Bucky, could be any number of things.
If it is Steve, I'll miss the storylines they could have still gotten from his "passing". But at the same time, with the Cap movie in the works? I figured he'd be back by then, anyhow.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 12:34:29 PM
Strangeman said:
Does anyone want this one-dimensional do-gooder character back? He's been around since the 40's, and during the time he hasn't done anything that interesting. Just because he's so iconic in an American flag uniform doesn't mean he's not a second-tier character. He's purposefully made the leader of whatever team he's on because he has no function otherwise. All he has is a shield, which has this ridiculous propety of being able to bounce off objects and return to his hand like a boomerang, but it's basically a giant Frizbee. He's been shot twice in about 90 years, despite running through a hail of Nazi/Hydra bullets on a daily basis. Spider-man has a spider-sense that lets him dodge bullets, but he's still ends up shot every second week. Unlike Batman who spent a lifetime developing his phyiscal and intellectual skill, Steve Rogers just took a stupid formula and suddenly he became a tactical genius with psuedo-super-strength (although all the heroes he fights with could probably bench-press him while he's bench-pressing weights, plus out of six given Avengers, he probably has the fourth highest IQ). His arch-nemesis is a German stereotype. Everyone he meets automatically likes him, so there's zero conflict with him and any of his team memebers, unless they're doing something un-American like not following orders or supporting gay-rights.
I don't think he's even a real Captain.
I know it's standard proceedure to kill off a character, wait for nostalgia to kick in then bring him back, but why bother?
Posted 04/22/2009 at 12:37:20 PM
Zortt1 said:
Ray: You know what it could be, past experiences intruding on to present time.
Egon: Could be erased memories stored in the collective unconsious. Wouldn't rule out clairvoient or telepathic content either.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 12:56:40 PM
erm said:
Bet it's something stupid, like Bucky donning the original outfit. The whole Reborn angle will be a misdirect and they'll just slap on the old costume on Bucky. Something stupid like that. Or a clone.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 01:08:23 PM
Zach T. said:
Merlin: One More Day needs to be undone, but fuck Jean Grey, leave her dead! She's already been brought back and re-killed a good dozen times already, so just leave that as it is! Everyone forgot how to write her, anyway...
Posted 04/22/2009 at 01:17:20 PM
Jilliterate said:
Agreed, it'll be a clone. A mutant clone. Who's actually a skrull.
....what? It could happen!
Posted 04/22/2009 at 01:17:44 PM
Handgunjesus said:
Any think that this could be that lame shit of the Heroes Reborn franchise coming back to bite in the backside? It has been 10 years after all...
Posted 04/22/2009 at 01:23:14 PM
Neal Snow said:
It pissed me off when they killed off Steve Rogers. But, as an admitted Cap fan, I stopped reading the comic years ago for the reasons Strangeman desribed. As iconic as he is, Steve Rogers, as he's been written since forever, is boring. And boring doesn't sell comics. Recently I've decided to give this Bucky version of Cap a try (I don't want to get started about how stupid it was to bring his dead ass back to life after being dead for decades) and surprisingly he makes a very good Cap. I wish Rogers behaved like the Bucky version instead of like Marvel's answer to that big blue boy scout Superman. But anyhoo...not surprised they're bringing back Rogers so soon. But why doesn't anyone stay dead in comics? If I could jump to the world these characters live in, I would in a heartbeat. I'd be immortal. Just give me some of that anti-aging crap Nick Fury is on, or make me Norman fucking Osborn.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 01:29:52 PM
Stephen said:
Kind of a shame, as Bucky would be a DC-esque legacy hero if allowed to stick around for longer. Then again, I guess that since they're out of vogue at DC right now thanks to DiDido's weird 70s obsession, Marvel's just following suit.
But chalk me up with all the other skeptics. I'd like to think that Waid and Brubaker have a bet that Bru can't top Return of Barry Allen, and this is the result.
(Although didn't they just do the Return of Barry Allen angle? I moved Cap to trade status a year ago and haven't kept up with recent stories)
Posted 04/22/2009 at 01:43:14 PM
Kurono -K said:
I don't think Steve Rogers will be back for good.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 02:13:34 PM
awesome-o said:
Steve Rodgers isn't coming back - ign announced this mini 2 years ago right after the death issues - the avengers time travel back and have an adventure with an early avenger team that includes steve rodgers. The story is going to be about the impact see and being around their fallen teammate has on them knowing he has died.
This story would take place almost immediately after the death of cap and before the secret invasion stuff.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 02:19:56 PM
Scortia said:
I had no problem with how Steve died. And yes I liked Marvel Civil War (well most of it).
But I do agree, Bucky is being handled pretty well atm and I'd like to see him have more screentime before Cap Sr. returns.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 02:32:08 PM
Carl said:
Welp, I began my boycott of Marvel(less) Comics after the death of Cap and especially after the odious fucktard "event" 'The Syphil War'. They broke the MU as far as I am concerned. If they bring Cap back, I might actually buy Marvel again and not feel I'm supporting liberal commie books that are clueless about right and wrong...
Posted 04/22/2009 at 02:55:36 PM
pvtNobody said:
Captain America is about the only book that hasn't been hit by the "Dark Reign" label so far. My first thought is Norman Osborn is going to recruit 50s Cap and try and convince the American people that either a) Steve Rogers has been "reborn" or b) that he was never really dead but has been deep undercover or some such thing.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 03:26:10 PM
edgreen86 said:
STEVE ROGERS AS CAPTAIN AMERICA IS COMING BACK??????
Shocking. Totally shocking.
(not - not at all. who actually thought this was going to be a long term thing?)
Posted 04/22/2009 at 03:57:31 PM
Tom said:
Considering how hard it is for Hitch to meet a deadline I would be very surprised if all five issues managed to come out in less than a twelve month period.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 04:01:50 PM
snakeeyes23 said:
This may be the real deal, taking place in the official Marvel Universe.
He's got a strange new shield there, no white stripe with a huge dimensional star.
I'd assume since his original one is in use by GunCap.
Could possibly be Invaders Cap, stuck here after the crossover I'm not reading, although he'd come with an original shield.
Smells kinda like Green Lantern/Flash ReBORN in title, could be all about reestablishing the character.
Past several years at Marvel have been one big weenie-tease about getting the original big 3 of the Avengers together, and just when GunCap is becoming a solid part of the universe outside his series, this goes down.
At least he didn't turn into a caveman and/ or his own baby self like Bats.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 04:31:21 PM
Arcane said:
I always thought Cap's death was undone before the bullet hit. He gets gutshot, close range, and he's whisked away by SHIELD immediata. This sound like the easiest fake death I've ever seen, and he just shacks up in a SHIELD bunker somewhere sipping gin with Nick Fury. It could've been Nick doing the shooting, get the man out of the spotlight before a real sniper comes to do the job. Fake the death of America in order to make a political statement. Colbert could've been behind this.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 06:34:12 PM
Eozen said:
Branding. That's what it is. I mean, could you honestly think of Batman as anyone else but Bruce? These guys are iconic in the sense that they'll be around long after we're gone, retcons and age adjustments aside. Whine all you want about raped childhoods/expectations, Steve will always be Cap as far Marvel's concerned the public expects.
But all that aside, Bucky's a great read. If Steve really does come back, the least I'm hoping for at this point is some great stories out of Bucky just as he's getting settled into the role. Does he or doesn't he want Steve dead?
Posted 04/22/2009 at 09:19:45 PM
cam said:
it just goes to show how much more a comicbook can do that a tv/movie screen can't. could anyone in their wildest and most brilliant vision imagine a captain american movie as cool? the guy throws a shield like a boomarang. i'm not ripping on him...well, yes, maybe a little, but not out of spite. i mean, the guy is fast and strong and throws a shield around, ANND dresses in red, white, and blue spandex.
it would be sheer brilliance to make that watchable and credible on a screen. i don't think it could be done.
i saw a snippet of lois lane dressing in latex and high heels on one of the latest Smallville shows and i got me digressing. sorry, a completely random and unrelated thought. yay, steve rogers.
sorry, strangeman. i looked up and saw you just said the same thing.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 09:34:42 PM
LBD "Nytetrayn" said:
I find I enjoy legacy heroes more than just having some comic writers jerk the characters back and forth from the afterlife like a big yo-yo...
Posted 04/22/2009 at 09:36:04 PM
panamagoo said:
Tom Brevoort posted an image from Captain America #600 of Heroes Reborn Bucky in his blog... I'm sure this probably has something to do with her.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:05:36 PM
Sodomist said:
I completly agree with Strangeman on this on, Cap has always been a very one-dimensional character without any real potential.
Posted 04/22/2009 at 11:45:51 PM
GQ said:
I've argued before that while Captain America is iconic, Steve Rogers isn't. It could be anyone under that mask. "The Public" don't know who Steve Rogers is, and they don't care. He's far from being a Bruce Wayne or a Clark Kent or even a Peter Parker.
I mean, who the hell is he? What does he do? Do he have a job? A secret identity? Or is he just Captain America 24/7? Its this lack of interest/hook in Steve that makes him replacable.
Captain America could easily become a brand in the Marvel Universe. A title to be passed from one hero to the next. Frankly, that would be more interesting to me than bland old Stevie coming back...
What exactly is the story of his return?
- Hey, Steve's back! Yay!
- Hi guys! I was dead but now I'm not! Look, I just angsted all over Tony Stark but we're cool now/i punched him (delete as applicable)
- So.... now what?
-Uh, Avengers Assemble!
-Ah square one. How I've missed you.
Posted 04/23/2009 at 03:52:45 AM
Kamereon said:
While I never really cared for Captain America, and one of my mantras being: Only Bucky and Uncle Ben stay dead, I dared to start reading Brubaker's take on Captain America - if only to make fun of it.
I really enjoyed it and I think that Brubaker still has a number of stories left in him about both of the caps. With the upcoming Avengers movie, they are almost certain to bring the Steve Rogers Cap back to life (or explain how he didn't die in the first place: cosmic cube, clone, lmd, etc).
The only thing I ask is that if you change the costume again, please for f**k's sake don't let Alex Ross have anything to do with it. Why would a badass, secret agent, assassin Bucky Barnes have a shiny costume? Just dumb, Alex, seriously dumb.
Posted 04/23/2009 at 06:49:52 AM
ogie said:
oh f*** me, why kill a freakin character if you know you are going to resurrect him? couldn't they just have made Cap quit again, and brought in another unstable person like John Walker?
The only way this could be good is if they have Steve do a spin as a heel before he comes back as Cap.
Picture this, the Red Skull somehow is able to find Caps body. He brings it to his super secret nazi lab. Where he gives Cap's body transfusions of blood from a mutant with similar powers of regeneration as wolverine. Then he brain washes cap to think he is some sort of super nazi. He then unleashes Cap on the world.
Posted 04/23/2009 at 06:56:01 AM
ZeroCorpse said:
I'm inclined to believe that this is going to be a story about James Barnes taking over the Captain America mantle for good. So far, he's been reluctant and sticking to his own style (using guns, wearing a different costume that is based on his Winter Soldier outfit). I think in this story he gets a "visit" from Steve (It's Marvel. There's magic. They don't have to explain it, remember?) and really, truly takes over as Cap. He'll seek some extra training, get rid of the guns, and become the Captain America that Steve would be proud of.
Either that, or Bucky skips out and Clint Barton (the guy they asked first) takes over as Cap.
Posted 04/23/2009 at 07:31:45 AM
Bunta8447 said:
I can't believe it's already been two years. You kinda knew that he was gonna come back, but I agree that it's a little too soon. Although I'm not a big fan of the idea of Bucky as Cap I have to admit that the storyline with him has been pretty good so far. It's true that they could still write a lot more stuff with Bucky at the helm.
God, I hope it's not gonna be like he comes back and he decides to just let Bucky keep the shield while he goes off and live a "normal" life or he decides to go nomadic and travel the world to "find himself." Come on, Steve your almost 70 and you've been all over the world and beyond; I think it's safe to say if you don't who you are and what you're supposed to do in this world after all that you should just stay dead.
Then again maybe it's all just one big fake-out and has nothing to with Steve and it's about some obscure character coming back or something like that.
Posted 04/23/2009 at 09:00:56 AM
Phoenix said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say they are NOT bringing back Cap. "Rebirth" is the name of the WWII weird science project that created him, not a reference to him coming back to life. My guess is that this is an early-adventures reboot, like "X-Men: First Class."
Posted 04/23/2009 at 12:06:12 PM
Stuart Ian Burns said:
Because there's a film coming soon and the last thing you need as a company is not having the property still in print. It's more than likely that the resurrected man will be somewhat in the mode of what we can expect on screen.
Posted 04/24/2009 at 07:31:51 AM
John Wong said:
Look I know some of you people like Bucky as the new Captain
America. But HE HAS NO "POWERS"! How can he take all that punishment and still be able to kick @ss? Flashtip for Bucky: Get thyself some superpowers!. Volunteer for any rebirth or radiation experiment!
Posted 05/03/2009 at 01:21:33 PM

