I think all this new information insures that I will never again see anything by Michael Bay, so I guess that means this is all good news! Hooray!

...I'm really trying to make this news happy, and I don't think it's working...

why is the allspark inherently evil?

Sigh. I guess I'm past caring. The only way I'll see this movie is Saturday afternoon on Sci-Fi in a couple years.

The fact that the clip features a Smiths poster makes me really really sad.

And that sort of vitriol towards Bay is why I like coming here. :)

this is horrible, but does it really surprise you after he killed of Jazz in the first movie?

Wait a minute. Someone give me confirmation on this but at 21 seconds in is that little demon blender shooting crap with his dick? I think that’s a laser cannon wang. Wow, today really has been one of those days.

*Spoilers below, for those who haven't been warned off already (please take salt to the cinema to rub in your eyes, it will still be more pleasant than watching this turd pile)*
I watched this turgid filth last night (I'm in Ireland, so it somehow got a preview showing at least on par with the States, we normally get blockbusters 2-3 weeks after everyone else)
The twins are awful racist caricatures.
There was precisely 1 (one) "cool" moment in the film, and it was within the first 15 minutes. I should have walked out after, because nothing worthwhile happened for the rest of the film.
Jetfire was awful, bumbling and useless.
There were so many moments that made me cringe that I left with my scrotum fully 2 thirds of its original size. (the kitchen scene did this)
The on screen clutter was exceptional, characters got blown up, thrown around and impaled on stuff, and I had no clue who any of them were.
This was the first ever film I've actually felt angry at, shaking my fist at the screen and calling Bay a "feculent bastard".
Even terminator: (John "I'm Batman" Connor) Salvation was better than this.
Holy balls.

thresholdfusion: did arcee really look like that toy?

When people complain about Hollywood sucking, this is what they need to be reminded of. People will go see anything as long as there's a hot girl and explosions. Nerd-nation needs to rise up Iranian style and drag out Bay for an old fashioned ass whoopin'!

Bay has always sprinkled disgusting stereotypes in all his movies. He probably feels it isn't offensive because he throw in bad white stereotypes too. I suppose it offsets his need to almost always put in one "loud black person". Whether its a cable car driver, Anthony Anderson, or some obese lady... they gotta be in there because y'know . . "those people" are so fun to watch.

Now, I don't think Bay is racist or anything. I think he just feels those cartoonish characters are fun to watch so he puts them in. The thing is he doesn't realize that he is unintentionally offending people. Although he probably doesn't care, bucking political correctness is his way of being edgy and rock star like.

Coincidentally, I was in Paris a few years ago (2001) and was eating escargot while watching a mime. It's not incredibly stereotypical or far-fetched.

And while I might be crucified for saying so, I think stereotyped characterizations are hilarious. I'm of Asian descent and amass vintage prints, some of which (1940's) depict Asians in a comical light. It's all in good fun. As long as there is no vitriol or vehemence pointing to the superiority of one's race over another, it's "stereotyping" but not "racist" ( http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism ).

I'm really looking forward to this movie. :)

@Gasstank - Yeah that pretty much looked like they made a Fruit F@cker out of the blender or one of the appliances. This article makes me sad.

Arcee looked like some kind of insect crossed with a unicycle. Was terribly badly designed. Couldn't even tell where the characters face was, and there were three pretty much identical copies of her.

Wow. I thought Skids and Mudflap were gonna be redneck stereotypes or something. I didn't thing Bay was going to drag out his racism all over again.

Isn't one voiced by Anthony Anderson? I know he's the voice of some Transformer in the movie? I guess as long as someone is willing to say the lines, Bay'll keep writing them.

I am going to see this movie so many goddamn times just to spite you whiny bitches.

Go jerk off to that guy's "about to take a shit" stance Bumblebee statue and I'll continue being a retarded, uncultured slack-jawed movie-goer who can shut off mind and just enjoy a fucking movie and not be personally insulted when a fucking joke is made.

Grenadier=Micheal Bay

I saw ths as well. It's god awful.

Though I did like what they did with Soundwave.

If you follow that link to the article about Bay's letter, the comments there are all about how awesome the first movie was and how much better the second looks.

I guess it is kind of a lowest-common-denominator thing, where we the long time fans and appreciators of quality character design can hate on what will clearly be one of the biggest movies of the year, while the general public is genuinely excited. Gotta give Bay credit for that. He may be raping the childhoods of a million nerds, but he certainly knows how to pack the bumbling public into the theaters. According to Forbes the dude's movies have made $2.6 billion! That's not to say I approve of Peanut cans and racist robots...but I'll still probably see the movie.

Grenadier, you ARE the 'any dumb, plot-free movie with lots of ker-plosions and smashy smashy and maybe a poop joke is a great "Popcorn Flick"' crowd. Some of us don't like to have to leave our brains up our asses to enjoy a movie.

From one of M Bay's recent posts on his blog.

"C'mon guys critics? Give me a break. Do you all have short term memory? They killed the first one, and it still became a world-wide smash. I made this for the you, the audience!"

Ungh. I wish I had short term memory but I remember the first one way too well.

Grenadier, you may find it difficult.
I actually did the same thing, expected the movie to be bad, and have unconvincing plot and characters.
I figured I could compensate for it and just enjoy the explosions and some robots beating the snot (lubricant? ferrofluid? I don't know) out of each other.
This was an erroneous judgement.
I actually didn't mind the first film too much, I've seen it a couple of times.
The main problems with this one seem to be:
1) All the robots look the same, there's loads of them and when they fight it's really difficult to tell what the hell is going on.
2) the sense of humour: it vacillates between being immature dick joke style to being the kind of slapstick that kids found funny at 5 years old. It wasn't the stereotyping that annoyed me, it was just the inconsistency of it all.

Just to piss off the Bayformer fans, I think I'll go see Star Trek again. Enjoy the long line with the other mouth-breathers, suckers!

So I'm seeing the movie in 3 hours.... and really if its dumb but im amused i dont give a crap. I just watched the entire first season re issue last night.... and it was garbage. I love my childhood, but the plots were horrible, the animation was awful (blue optimus prime) and dear christ, most of the voices are annoying. new wheelie is bad, but move wheelie is worse, grimlock and wheelie were stereotyping the mentally challenged so there. people need to let the hate go.

Uwe Bolle was just the begining. Bay's making Uwe Bolle's case better and better; the fox and the beef help him move along in their unholy trinity of the horrible hollywood meta-bot. People will see this a billion times, and what's worse is that these TF movies are some of the first experiences with scifi/fantasy that new generations will have. Please, if you have offspring, do the responsible thing and have a talk with your child about the existence of good movies if they choose to gravitate towards the event horizon of the Bayhole!

In defense of Michael Bay (OMG I can't believe I just said those words) I have to point out that this doesn't sound any worse than anything done by Tyler Perry's Tyler Perry in a Tyler Perry production of a Tyler Perry film.

Simply put, if Mudflaps is a racist portrayal, then Tyler Perry needs to be sanctioned by the NAACP for being downright offensive in his stereotype of Black women as loud, delusional, ugly, insane, troublesome fools, as we see in his Madea.

Frankly, RuPaul's Black-man-in-drag performance is the only one that isn't a festering pile of racist stereotypes. Eddie Murphy's Klumps, Martin Lawrence's Big Momma... The list is full of representations in which Black women are portrayed as fat, ignorant, ugly and loud, and they all think that some "wisdom" makes up for the rest of it.

Of course, none of those guys is white. Bay, being whiter than a sheet of ultra-brite copy paper, doesn't get a pass when it comes to stereotyping black characters.

All I'm saying here is that he may have a reason to believe those sorts of portrayals are acceptable, and that reason lies with the entertainers most embraced by the Black community. Perhaps what Bay is doing is NOT racist precisely because he's not seeing color here-- He's seeing the same characters portrayed in other venues that are loved, praised, and enjoyed by the African American audience. He just makes the mistake of not realizing that it's really not appropriate to make those jokes when he's not from that particular background. He's color-blind to the point of stupidity.

Or, he's just a total douchebag.

Either way, I'm not seeing his shitty movie starring Shia (sick to death of him) LaBouf and Megan "Uncanny Valley Girl" Fox. They can just fuck off, because they're not getting my money.

Listen, I LOVE stupid humour. Went and saw The Hangover on the weekend and laughed for pretty much the entire thing.

But This. Shit. Isn't. Funny. If you're six years old and can't get in to see The Hangover, then maybe it is to you, I don't know. But Bay's action sequences aren't good, and his "comedy" isn't good. So what the hell's left?

And, to think, that melodramatic "BUMBLEBEE!" that is tagging all the commercials was for... Shia complaining that his toaster's come to life. Wow, reeeeeeeal heroic.

Wow... at least SnakeEyes McMoldface doesn't appear.
Hey, no musical numbers!
Still mediocre though.

"Bayformers apologists, you may officially blow me.

Aren't you afraid you'll get some kind of nasty disease?

HOLY SHIT!! That was fucking cool!!!!

I liked it. I really fucking liked it. And guess what, Bumblebee rolling in to blow up shit is going to be bad ass.

Don't see the movie you whiners, I'm seeing it five times just like I saw the first one.

lou-bert vs. q-bert,

The retarded and their money are soon parted. In your case parted five times.

I never really understood why you hated this movie so much until I saw this article. The illiterate ebonics-speaking black robots, and the stereotypical french scene just make me cringe. And that product placement is just egregious. I'll just add this to the list of films that can't possibly fail hard enough, along with whatever crap Eddie Murphy is coming out with next.

>And guess what, Bumblebee rolling in to blow up shit is going to be bad ass.

Yeah, Bumblebee vs blender bot, toaster bot and microwave bot. It's like an Eastwood movie.

And ZeroCorpse: I've got no problem with Tyler Perry getting bashed for his horrible movies as well. Hell, there's a reason that the Boondocks episodes dealing with BET were so funny - because they hit dead on.

Regarding the twins. If you don't like stereotypes then I guess you don't like the following.

Family guy? Simpsons? Futurama? American Dad? Married with children? Friday? Any Ben Stiller movie or jewish comedy. Just to name a few. Our world revolves around sterotypes wether we like it or not.

I think we'll be okay if a robot has a gold tooth and talks jive.

Our world needs to get over the BS politically correct movement and laugh at life. Just as long as real hate is not involved.

I think this is only the second time in my life I've seen a trailer for a movie with a strong pull for me, and decided not to see it in the theater. The first being dragonball. Right up until this moment I was prepared to see it, prepared to drag my gf as well and have to watch a chickflick to make up for it. But I just realized I'm mad at hollywood for this. It exemplifies everything I hate about it. I'm done. I'm done supporting crap like this with my wallet while still complaining about it. I'll netflix it when the inevitable rifftrax comes up, but that's it.

ZeroCorpse said, "In defense of Michael Bay (OMG I can't believe I just said those words) I have to point out that this doesn't sound any worse than anything done by Tyler Perry's Tyler Perry in a Tyler Perry production of a Tyler Perry film."

"Simply put, if Mudflaps is a racist portrayal, then Tyler Perry needs to be sanctioned by the NAACP for being downright offensive in his stereotype of Black women as loud, delusional, ugly, insane, troublesome fools, as we see in his Madea."

All my black friends hate Tyler Perry as much as they hate Bay. Believe me, Perry doesn't get a pass just because he's black.

I love the fact that there is not middle ground on this movie here. I mean I am going to see it, and honestly pretty much everyone on here is going to go as well, if for no reason to bitch about it. My Wife wants to see it and loved the first one, that is a good enough reason for me to see it. Do I think it is going to be bad? Probably not all that bad, but I like a pointless movie somtimes, nothing wrong with that.

Thats how I feel about it, I honestly don't care what other people think I'll decide on my own, and as stupid as it may be I will get a kick out of it for no reason other then my wife will talk about how much she likes it and anything that brings her closer to my world is a good thing

@Burn the Land Our world does not "revolve around stereotypes". Lazy, hacky writers revolve around stereotypes. Awful stand-up comedians revolve around stereotypes. People with godawful senses of humor revolve around stereotypes.

You are not the funny edgy guy who's stickin' it to 'the politically correct' movement because you guffawed at some hacky racist gag.

*sigh*

Guess I'll just have to take comfort in knowing you guys screaming and cursing the ground Bay walks on will die several years early of stress while the rest of us poor, stupid morons will have to go on living, not taking irrelevant shit so seriously.

Really though, I'm surprised you guys lived through Armada/Energon/Cybertron without gutting yourselves like fish. Or did you like those series and just hate on Bay's films because they're making Transformers "cool" and bringing them back into the pop culture spotlight? Do you turn up your nose at anyone wearing an Autobot t-shirt because it's "trendy" now? Are you upset because every hip, twenty-something douchebag and not just your inner circle of nerd buddies know who Starscream is?

Too bad.

In France, we have a proverb:
"Les automates sont des hommes comme les autres. visez les couilles"
(Mimes are men. shoot in the balls"

Greg Easton said:
lou-bert vs. q-bert,

The retarded and their money are soon parted. In your case parted five times.

Ah yes, hurl epithets at a person who isn't picking nits about a summer monster movie. And Michael Bay is the tasteless one, eh?

Tell you what, those of who can go ahead see that overrated turdburger The Dark Knight 750 times and say it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I for one, am intelligent enough to enjoy some empty entertainment, and still call The Godfather one of the finest pieces of cinema ever. I will never say Michael Bay is a good director, especially because he tried deep material and failed miserably (Pearl Harbor, anyone?\, anyone??)

The facts that it's a childhood memory come to so-called life plus it's not Uwe Boll directing these movies is what making me go.

And Bumblebee was imitating the fucking dog, okay???

This scene just brings back to mind one of the stupidest plot points of the first movie. The Allspark, the item that gives life to all Transformers, good and bad, somehow only creates evil little bastard transformers... WHY?

Can anyone explain (using only the movie as a source) how this makes one lick of sense?

The first film was filled with multiple examples of this caliber of lazy writing. I can only expect, judging from Michael Bay's track record, more of the same from the sequel.

I still haven't decided if I'm going to see this movie. Part of me loves to watch a trainwreck of a movie, but at the same time I do not want to contribute to the movie's gross, and by extension, Michael Bay's ego.

NutZac, I'm not trying to be witty or stick it to the man. I just find it humorous that this thread has some really angry nerds complaining about a gold toothed robot and such.

I grew up in North Miami which is 95% african american and every other black man has gold teeth or wants gold teeth and can hardly speak english. So sorry if it stings your sensitive heart to see goof ball bots in transformers because it strikes a real note. Maybe we can get the cast of Crash for the next movie it would be so much more realistic entertaining and dramatic for a summer action movie. Because thats what we want for a Transfomers movie no humor and more realism. Lets go for best picture.

The more and more I hear about this film, I don't want to have anything to do with the film.

Still planning on seeing it, but I'm scared!

So, I'm going to see Year One tomorrow, and I still want to see The Hangover (if anything, for Ed Helms- aka, the Best).

Both of those movies will have "stupid" comedy. I don't want stupid comedy in my Transformers.

And that was TOtally a dick-gun. I didn't even have to pause or look at the clip again- it was like, "Annnnd that's a dick-gun. Hm."

The first movie was fucking boring (which only helped it seem incredibly insulting)- dumb explosion movies are great when they're actually fun (Bad Boys and Not Bad Boys 2).

The only...non-reason I have to Possibly spend money on seeing this movie is that it Will make a gagillion dollars when it opens, whether I see it or not, and I really would like to judge the actual movie instead of everything we've seen so far (Which Is AWFUL). Oh, and I hate seeing 'these' types of movies on any not-theater screen- would I have thought The Dark Knight was as amazing a movie if I saw it on DVD first? Probably- but it wouldn't have been as fun.

...fuck! Not to suggest that this shitpile will be "fun", but...argh! Brain Out.

About the whole stereotype thing, a good artist can use them to point out our own flaws as a people and make us think. This is not something that neither Michael Bay nor Tyler Perry have done. I'm Black, and cannot stand Tyler Perry for this reason. It would be different if Transformers were intelligent and witty, but unfortunately that is apparently not the case.

I think the next logical step is an openly gay Transformer, but not one that the gay community would be proud of. He'd probably talk with a lisp, be pink, and spend the whole movie trying to flirt with Bumblebee (it wouldn't matter if he were an Autobot or Decepticon).

Either way, it sucks that we should have to "turn off our brains" to be entertained.

@ Admiral Dillhole

Trying to explain that would be like trying to make sense of half the shit in Star Wars without reading some secondary source material.

And to answer your question, when the All Spark creates a Transformer, it's "wild" in the sense that it's untamed and is just doing stuff to do stuff. It has no "personality" and can be considered an animal. Not once do the created robots yell "Decepticons forever!" or rush to join Megatron's side. They aren't Decepticons, just dumb.

See, there you go. The movie doesn't answer all your questions because it shouldn't have to. Instead of going "WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT I WANT AN EXPLANATION NOW!" you could have thought "Hm, I wonder if there's a logical explanation for that. I'll look it up later."

*golf clap*

seriously. Thank you for this. Thank you.

Jesus...I love/hate reading the posts from all the people who are up inside Michael Bays asshole. You wanna know why people hate this film? Because we know it could have been so,so much better. Transformers is a pretty hard concept to screw up,especially with a multi-million dollar budget,but Bay somehow found a way to fuck up even the simplest best parts of the property. And I also love the assholes who say that "It doesnt matter what you think because even if you hate it,you'll wind up paying to go see it anyway". No. I wont. I will never pay money to see this film...not in a theatre,not on video,not even on TV. Nor will I waste my time/hard drive space downloading it illegally. I had a friend who loved the first Transformers and he offered me his DVD when he upgraded to the Blu-Ray....I turned him down. Hell,I could have used the fucking thing as a COASTER,and I turned down a free copy of the first film...no way in hell am I having anything to do with the sequel. And if you love Transformers but hate what Bay has done to them,you'll follow suit and do the same damn thing.

Grenadier, that explanation doesn't fit well within the context of the movie. We're shown two factions, one noble and one black-hat evil. The "evil" characters are gadding about blasting things... the newly created transformers are gadding about blasting things...

Within the context of the movie they seem no differently motivated than the Decepticons. And that is either lazy writing or lazy directing.

If your explanation is the correct one, it just raises more absurd questions. What happened when a new transformer was brought to life on Cybertron? Did it immediately begin blasting the shit out of the other transformers it was around? It's still a bit silly.

You know, I liked this movie a lot better when it was just Gremlins; I guess the Beef forgot to not feed his fucking kitchen appliances after midnight.

I gotta say,it's so obvious that I would've thought of it even if I hadn't read this before watching the clip.

@ Admiral Dillhole

And that's why you don't over-analyze.

Look up any G1 episode on the Transformers Wiki and you'll see dozens of plot holes and logic errors. Some can be blamed on lazy animation, but in a lot of cases it seems like the writers just went "Pfft, fuck it, lunch is here."

Again, you make it seem as if you wanted the movie to grind to a halt during the climatic battle so Lennox could ask Optimus to explain robot procreation on Cybertron.

I wish people would spot complaining about product placement in movie about GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING TOYS!!!!

What really scares me is the thought that I could be sharing the road with people retarded enough to pay to see this movie and enjoy it. They could be handling my food.

[quote]"Because there's the lowest common denominator, and below that is river of feces and vomit, and somewhere below that lie Michael Bay films."[/quote]

Quoted for truthi-awesomeness.

Someone wasn't paying attention to the first transformers movie:

All the technology came from the study of Megatron. Thus, when the allspark activates the technology, they tend to be "evil" because yeah, you can blame Megatron for this. They even stated this in the first movie but apparently, it seems that this knowledge has been forgotten by many.

@ KP

That's...pretty good, actually. Although I don't think arranging the wires in a Mountain Dew machine a certain way makes it inherently evil. 'Cause then you gotta go into robot ethics, free will, whether or not a robot can choose not to be evil or good...

Grenadier said:
"Guess I'll just have to take comfort in knowing you guys screaming and cursing the ground Bay walks on will die several years early of stress while the rest of us poor, stupid morons will have to go on living, not taking irrelevant shit so seriously."

For someone who is not taking this seriously, you keep coming back to answer everyone's posts. Are you really Michael Bay?

@ Blinker

Of course I'm not Michael Bay! If I were he, would I be sitting here drinking a refreshing Mountain Dew and/or Pepsi product, admiring my awesome Hasbro action figures, chowing down on delicious Whopper hamburgers--flame-grilled to perfection--and gearing up to drive my sexy new 2010 Chevrolet Camaro, now available at your local Chevy dealers?!

Grenadier, you seem to have the same commitment to writing as Bay and his cronies. Such exposition could have come at a point more appropriate than the middle of an action sequence, which for whatever reason, is the place that you seem most appropriate to address it. You say that the movie raises questions that I should go out and seek the answers to myself? A movie should be self contained and internally consistent. The only questions I was left with is why were raving lunatic cell phones/xbox/mtn dew dispenser robots even necessary to the plot at all?

Furthermore, you use the the rough and sloppy nature of original cartoon to justify sloppy writing in a multi-million dollar feature length film? Seriously? You're sticking with that argument?

I've read the original scripts for several episodes of the Transformers cartoon, they're actually quite coherent. Many of the incoherencies and silliness cropped up due to the nature of animation at the time. Stuff cut out by censors or for time, miscommunications with the storyboard artists or overseas animation studios. So much can go wrong on an animated show on such a tight schedule as the original series.

How long was Michael Bay's Transformers in pre-production? How much money did they have to throw at things?

No, you're absolutely right, I conceed. We should hold the makers of movies today to the same low standards of cheap animation from thirty years ago. Yes, we should pay these people millions, repeat MILLIONS to entertain us with dick jokes and explosions.

@KP

Ah yes, this brings up another of the first movies brilliant suppositions. All technology comes from Megatron, right. Scientists brought him to the Hoover Dam and kept him on ice for some reason. And then they STARED at him and got the idea for the microprocessor.

If he's the source for all our technology, how come my fingers don't bleed when I type on my keyboard? Shouldn't all our computers have unnecessary spiky bits on them?

Oh right, perhaps the art director should have read that bit of dialogue before designing the abominations that we all know and hate.

Another reason to hate this movie and Michael Bay.

Sorry to spoil anyone's surprise, but looking at the Transformers toys can confirm the idiocy: Flaps (or MudFlap or MudSkids or who really cares what the name is) really does have a gold tooth and a retarded-looking face. And I mean that in a good way: his face looks like a a designer based his face on the look of a typical mentally-handicapped child.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Movie-Deluxe-Autobot-Skids/dp/B001TK3LQ0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1245714229&sr=1-7

I don't mind the so-called stereotypes (even robots who look mentally handicapped), but what I can't get past is the fact that these robots are supposed to be so advanced that they can blend into our world by disguising themselves as our vehicles, yet this robot has the face of a redneck hick? If you can re-arrange your body into a car, why not change your face to something better-looking? Or did I just give away a plot point for TF3, when every Transformer will have the face of Morgan Fox, Michael Bay's designated beauty for these movies?

Second, who came up with the idea of "it made a lot of money, so it must be good"? I seem to remember Lucas using this excuse 10 years ago with "The Phantom Menace". Sure, Star Wars fans hated it, but it made $400 million at the box office, so it must be good. Right? Right?

So if TF2 make $600 million, it must be a great movie! Should I start the debate about whether "Titanic", which is the highest-grossing movie of all time, deserves to be called the best movie of all time?

"Not to worry, though, because set amidst this stereotypical French tableau is a highly conspicuous Budweiser bottle. In fact, the product placement is so egregious and random in Fallen (for some reason, a huge Planters peanuts can is placed smack in the middle of a garage floor during one scene, because that's where one usually keeps food -- on the floor with nothing around it in a huge garage)..."
IT'S A MOVIE ABOUT A TOYLINE! COMPLAINTS ABOUT PRODUCT PLACEMENT ARE FUCKING MOOT POINT!

I'm sorry, but that is the stupidest thing I ever heard on this blog and that's saying something.

Luckily I have no childhood memories of Transformers. I watched Beast Wars, which is pretty much the only Transformers thing to actually have something approaching good or decent writing.

I thought the first movie sucked based on it's own merits and think this one will suck based on its own as well.

aren't you guys a little embarrassed by these nerd rages?

is there some kind of feedback loop in this?: the more embarrassment, the more pointless hate, the more embarrassment, etc.? embarrassment at my silly outbursts seems to chill me out most of the time, but maybe it has the opposite effect on others...

good luck, rob. maybe ten to twenty years from now there'll be another version truer to G1. until then, and if it means that much to you, maybe have a G1 party or club, and regularly watch the originals with others. it might be a cool show to have a live blog over, if you were able and it didn't copyright infringe somehow.

I was just trolling over at foxnation.com amongst crackpot neo-conservatives who think Obama and his army of Black Muslims are going to jump through the window and take their guns and it is so refreshing to come over here and see something WORTHY of universal hate: Michael Bay and his shitty movies. I wish he would die in one of the huge firey explosions that happen every 9 seconds in his over-hyped faff.

I cannot believe this is fucking happening. I cannot believe that in 2009 a man who makes these kinds of decisions is allowed to make movies at all, let alone have had a successful career.

I can't believe it either, but unlike you, I find it reassuring. The ol' 1st Amendment is not yet dead in America, it seems.

XD I agree with so many of you, but I honestly can't take any movie seriously. I wish Linkin Park picked a less-shitty movie to have thier new song in.

Also, I'm going to say that just because Mudflap and Skids cannot read English doesn't neccesarily mean that they're illiterate; they probably read Cybertronian script perfectly well. ;)

I was just trolling over at foxnation.com amongst crackpot neo-conservatives who think Obama and his army of Black Muslims are going to jump through the window and take their guns and it is so refreshing to come over here and see something WORTHY of universal hate

Clearly, you have no life worth speaking of.

To any and all — I don't give a shit about G1. I just want a Transformers movie fit for grade schooler of semi reasonable intelligence. I enjoy dumb movies; but I just want a movie I don't have to be retarded to enjoy. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Ok, now I'm officially joing the haters.

FUCK Michael Bay.

sammon1013 and Grenadier and lou-bert vs. q-bert. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!

I'm starting to give Bay a lot of props. For all the juvenile name calling and flame slinging that permeates the nets, he does it right back at ya with a billion dollar budget and a shit eating grin.

As for the whole racist angle, I'm lol'ing my pants off. How many times do 'black' movies/comedians, etc. use gross caricatures to mock how critically uncool white folks are? That Bay will use a blank check from Dreamworks and Spongebob's voice actor to mock the stereotypes of 'black' culture is all the better.

That's okay, you can blow me to. You're unwavering hatred of the Transformers films is the only thing I hate about this website, but I've come to expect that.

So who's going to blow who first?

@ Rob

Understood, but you're not exactly one for fair comparisons.

Remember your review of Dragonball: Evolution figures on Anime News Network? You thrashed $8 Wal-Mart figures meant for kids by holding them up to the same standards as you did the $30 import Kingdom Hearts Play Arts figures meant for collectors from the prior week. You brought a tee-baller to a college game and laughed when he caught a line-drive to the temple.

In all actuality there's no point in you going to see Revenge of the Fallen. You're so hell-bent on hating it there's nothing it can do to redeem itself in your eyes.

Wow I can't believe how much bad buzz this film is getting! I'm iffy about this film. It might be a guilty pleasure. It might make my eyeballs bleed in pain. But honestly the marketing department is doing a lousy job of making people want to see this film. I think most of the comments here is a good example of that.

PS I think if they stuck duct tape on Michael Bay's and Megan Fox's motuhs it would help with promotion. I can't be the only person on the planet who has moments where I feel that they need to be smacked. Geez.

@templar:
Well, I like to call it a cautionary tale of equiping middle management with company provided blackberrys.

Also, am I the only one who thinks the word 'Mudflap' sounds like a series of Brazilian scat vids?

First of all, Michael Bay is a f**king retarded, petulant, man-child who only has a career because he spent his early career servicing Jerry Bruckheimer who, incidentally, hasn't financed a decent movie since the early 90's. Secondly, the "black" Transformers are voice by SpongeBob F**KING SquarePants (according to IMDb), and not even a black actor!! Thirdly, the same writers worked on "Star Trek" and that movie turned out the way someone who respects source material should. There is nothing wrong with reinterpreting source material, and in fact there are many examples of it being done in smart, clever ways - and it's not even about that, as many other people have pointed out. Just making a good movie on it's own merit would be good enough. Hell, Bad Boys, The Rock, and Armageddon were all fairly entertaining movies, no matter how ludicrous. Michael Bay just doesn't care, while we all keep encouraging him.

Well, I like to call it a cautionary tale of equiping middle management with company provided blackberrys.

To each his own.

Ah, blackberries. Another great product of Canadian ingenuity...

Also, am I the only one who thinks the word 'Mudflap' sounds like a series of Brazilian scat vids?

Probably. I'm not sure why "Mudflap" would make anyone think of Brazillian jazz music.

This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions.

I'm in Canada for Christ's sake, our copyright laws are ridiculously lax.

*grumble*

I thought the internet was for everyone!!!!!

if megatron transforms into some kind of sapceship-tank...¿shouldnt he be called galvatron? and also if he becomes the tank ¿why doesn´t he has a cannon stuck to his arm? and optimus ¿why does he needs all those painted flames? and he looks to tall and thin he should be wider and look stronger, if devastator is in the movie...¿what happened to Omega Supreme? he used to be the one that sttoped him.

So I just finished watching TF2. Not as bad as I was expecting, but still some points.

1. Editing. The movie could have been a half hour shorter.

2. The racism? I could see it a bit, but there were tons of african americans at the premier I was at, and most laughed at the twins.

3. My biggest complaint is that the focus is too much on the decepticons, and they still don't have personalities.

4. Wheelie was meh, he goes away quick as does Jetfire (who is much more annoying).

5. The dick and fart jokes again meh, could have been a lot worse. Before you judge one of the early Bumblebee scenes, wait about 20 minutes and it'll make a bit more sense.

6. The melodrama is possibly the worst part of the movie, where a lot of scenes could be cut short or cut.

7. Johnny Turd? Not nearly as obnoxious once the movie gets going. He's a bit more low key and actually has a pretty good joke about his character.

Big Plus: Starscream baby!!!! The Most Vile Decepticon makes his presence known in a big way this time.

Okay Topless Robot. Fuck you. I come to your website for a lot of different things, but I sick and tired of your smear campaign of transformers. Love it, like it, hate it, who cares? You run a measley little website that probably 200+ people know about. You think you are going to convince everyone that it sucks? You haven't even seen it, and that's where this criticsm becomes hypocritical and retarded in and of itself. You base your opinions on net rumors and say-so from other people. You complain that you can't tell the robots apart, maybe because YOU lack the intelligence to PAY ATTENTION to the SCREEN. Instead, you sit here and run at the mouth about shit you don't know anything about. I plan to see this movie, and maybe I'll hate it, but not because some fucktard on the internet with way too much time on his hands told me to hate it.

You people are actually expecting more from the film than special effects?

Man, it's the only reason why I wanna see this.

@TR hater

Noone is making you click onto this website. It's substantially easier to not come here than it is to read through the articles. If you've got such a big stick up your arse about it then feel free to not be here, I'm sure the topless robot guy wouldn't mind.

Fact is, the movie looks pretty terible, and plenty of people think so. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean other people are wrong.

These guys got it right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BzBKITIr40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwziN4H35Kw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idBQF2jIwSg

Grenadier-

You actually have to shut off your mind?

TR hater-

I know what topless robot is. I have no idea who the hell you are. This site has been the best on reporting the movie. And the job you've done on reporting the movie is...um...

I sick and tired of you

This movie does not need any help smearing itself - TR is just reporting actual news from other sources. And I will tell you, there are a LOT of negative reviews out right now. Just try this new thing called "Google", I think. I'm pretty sure like, 500 people know about that site. Douche.

Yikes.

I have to say I'm not entirely sure that a man who has routinely professed his affection for Final Fantasy VII has any right to complain about racial stereotypes or nonsense plots but whatever.

Maybe I'm just an old fart but I can't bring myself to muster up this level of violent nerd rage even if I am a big TF fan.

I'm not defending the decisions made for these films, but they're not nearly as bad as people seem to be making them out to be.

Oh well, to each his own.

@ Wyngarde

Not "turn off your brain" as in "go full retard."

People always complain about bad actors or special effects "breaking the illusion" of being engrossed in a movie. What I'm talking about is not asking "how did they do that?" or "what's the story behind that character?" every thirty seconds; suspend disbelief long enough not to nit-pick through the movie and then walk out unsatisfied.

my god!

why do u watch transformers?

u want to see big transforming robots in action, and that's what you will get

nuff said

There's a big difference between suspension of disbelief and credabilty.

Its something fans of movies like this often overlook but trot out in discussions: "You're complaing about X in a movie about Y?!"

To explain:
Let's say a 15 year old actor is cast as the American President(X) in a movie about an alien invasion (Y). The audience is willing to suspsend disbelief in the likeyhood of an alien invasion but a woefully mis-cast actor will stretch credability to breaking point and kick you out of the movie. See the difference?

Grenadier said,

"Guess I'll just have to take comfort in knowing you guys screaming and cursing the ground Bay walks on will die several years early of stress while the rest of us poor, stupid morons will have to go on living, not taking irrelevant shit so seriously."

Violence Jack: I think you've wrongly assumed that taking a couple of minutes to post on a thread and say something sucks causes stress. In fact, it's quite the opposite. It's rather fun. As far as how much impact our disappointment over Bay's movie has on our life, I think you've over-estimated that too. Am I upset about it? Sure. But if I had to rate how "intense" the emotion was, its just kind between finding out that you have a hole in your t-shirt and a waiter getting your order wrong.

Sure, we'll right stuff like , "Omg F#(#(CKKKKKK!!!!" But in reality, we're just calmly sitting at our desk. The most rage like action we're actually doing is maybe shaking our head in disapproval.

Posting on a thread doesn't mean we're hyperventilating all day and punching walls. It just seems that way because your only interaction with us is through these blog posts. You gotta remember, guys like me just post on blogs like this to take a little break from work and shoot the sh!t with some fellow geeks. This includes talking about how excited we are about something and complaining how something sucks.

Grenadier said,

"Really though, I'm surprised you guys lived through Armada/Energon/Cybertron without gutting yourselves like fish. Or did you like those series and just hate on Bay's films because they're making Transformers "cool" and bringing them back into the pop culture spotlight? "

Violence Jack: No. I don't like Bay films because they're crappy. His directing very poor. As far is bringing Transformers into the spotlight and being more visible in pop culture.....why would I be upset about that? I'm a fan. I want other non-fans to experience the stuff I like too. In regard to Armada, Energon, and Cybertron series . . . well, I didn't like them either. I gave 'em a try but, I didn't like them.

Grenadier said,

"Do you turn up your nose at anyone wearing an Autobot t-shirt because it's 'trendy' now? Are you upset because every hip, twenty-something douchebag and not just your inner circle of nerd buddies know who Starscream is? Too bad."

Violence Jack: I can't speak for everyone but like I said earlier, I'm a big fan of Transformers. So why would I dislike its popularity? I would love to have more people know who Starscream is. That means I can make Transformer references in casual conversation and people would get it. No, I'm not like those guys who follow an indy band and dump them as soon as they go mainstream on the radio saying they've sold out. You shouldn't assume just because we gripe that's why we're upset. Why can't just release the simplicity of our position?

It is simple:

We
Don't
Like
Michael Bay's
Directing

Although I don't know the real you . . . and I'm gonna be off base I'm sure. But you know who you remind me of Grenadier? You and other Bay fans?

Emile from "Ratatouille". You're totally fine eating garbage because you can't recognize how much better your meal could actually be. Watch this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qtEjJuGo_U

It's like me talking to a Bay fan saying, "here... try some good art designs...now try this, it's called 'good choreography'....now mix those two with good editing ... what do you see?"

The things that cracks me up about this entire thread is the amount of arguing. Michael Bay Haters, let me clue you in on a little secret:

YOU AREN'T GOING TO CONVINCE THE OTHER SIDE THAT THEY'RE WRONG.

Now, Michael Bay Hater Haters, let me give you a little tip.

SEE POINT ONE.

Go see the movie, don't go see the movie. Bitch about it, rave about it. Whatever. But you're not going to convince the other side with any of the arguments you bring up.

I think some of us were just trying to help our fellow nerds save a few bucks by advising them that they might be disappointed by the movie, and to maybe not spend their cash on it just yet.
I hope people do enjoy the movie, considering that you could maybe have spent whatever it costs to get your ticket, popcorn and dates ticket (after convincing them it will be worth it and perhaps bribing with shiny expensive things) on something cooler.
See the movie, make up your own mind, but be prepared to be disappointed by clumsy directing, childish humour and action sequences that are difficult to follow due to the robots looking very similar.

violence Jack is a genius.

jeezus zombie christ. This looks like a giant hot humid pile of feces. See, the 90s Batman had a couple films before it turned into schlocky camp. This looks like it started out as schlocky camp, and went straight to "fuck you, fans!" in a single cycle. Well done, pink-m-n-m-with-frat-haircut director!

PS: @thresholdfusion- I'll see your ferrofluid, and raise you some fulloferrocene-F80. *asplodes*

PPS, why did BB sit in the garage doing nothing while all the lasers and dick-cannons were going off, blowing shit up, but come running the moment the Beef yells for him in a voice barely audible above said explosions?

*drinks wiper fluid until passes out*

I love how these posts keep coming. I makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that so many other people are disgusted that McBay got paid to make this crap.

Yessssss. Let the hate flow through you.

On a related note, Megan Fox is apologizing (or her version of apologizing)for that picture that has apparantly become the most well known picture of her ever. Bet that kid's happy now or has he moved on to ANGELINA JOLIE.

nemacron said:

why is the allspark inherently evil?

It's not. The reason the machines always turn evil is because if you remember in Transformers 1, they said that all modern technology was derived from studying Megatrons body. So all the machines people have invented are "inherently evil." Ones the allspark puts them to life they are baddies.

I have nothing new to add to this discussion, but I'll still type because I've been lacking on my TR posts. Rob (in his post about not giving a shit about G1) and Violence Jack summed up my thoughts exactly. There is a metric ass ton of "haters" who dislike the movies/relaunch for the sheer fact that they are bad/poorly executed/flawed movies. Nothing more. Not because of redesigns, not because of some nostalgic devotion to what, today, is considered crappy animation. They are just bad movies, in our minds.

I'm all about dick and fart jokes (or, that style, at least), too. In the right movie. And, in many haters minds, Transformers is not the venue for that. And, I'm all about Shakespearian theater, or films that provide social commentary. And, Transformers is not the place for that, either. There's a happy medium to be reached, one where you don't have to "shut off your brain," and Bay's Transformers have missed this.

My opinion. And we know what opinions are like. And this is all coming from someone who still has G1 figures in his office, and actually enjoyed a few moments in the 2007 film.

Hopefully this wasn't a tl;dr post. If it was, oh well, you didn't read it anyway.

The Transformers 'Michael Bay' franchise blows meaty brown shit chucks and Shia 'The Beef' LaBeouf is an arrogant twat who you should never have trusted to carry these films in the first place. I'm looking forward to Gobots The Motion Picture featuring Justin 'Apple Guy' Long. See! See how shitty that sounds!

@CakeorDeath

Alright fine, so everything about Megatron is inherently evil, from the metal plating of his skin down to his unusually dainty fingers... Right.

It's still an incredibly retarded plot point.

OK, wait...

"At one point, two characters are in Paris eating escargot and they're accosted by a mime because that's all that happens in Paris, right? Those two things?"

My God. We finally have a live-action, not-ironic remake of "Team America".

Grenadier:
"Really though, I'm surprised you guys lived through Armada/Energon/Cybertron without gutting yourselves like fish."
I hated those just as much as the Bay film.
Honestly, my biggest problem with the first Transformers was not with the robots, stupid action, bad dialogue, or ridiculous plot. Those were all things that I was expecting. Hell, I wanted a movie that was 90 minutes of giant robots beating the hell out of each other.

What I hated about TF1 (ugh) was that it was 90 minutes of Shia trying to get laid, Optimus and the other Autobots being bumbling fools, stupid military scenes, and a general lack of focus on the Transformers themselves. That, and the characterizations of the Autobots as sometimes badass, sometimes comic relief. Just lame.

Oh yeah, and the product placement. I'm not one to bitch about product placement in general, but it was egregious in the first one. The whole ebay thing really pulled me out of the film.

I'm not elitist (I loved Crystal Skull, for example), and I'm not pissed that the Transformers are cool again. I just wish the movies were fun and watchable.

I hate Michael Bay. I have hated him since he slaughtered my favorite ghost/haunted horror movie of all time. This just makes me want him to go to Hell and suffer anal rape at the hands of demons in a style that would make Anime porn run screaming!

Also, I'm going to attract lots of unneccessary attention by saying that I like Shia LeBeouf. He chooses some pretty bad movies, granted, but he also chooses movies that we are going to want to see (who wasn't creaming their pants at the first teaser trailer of the Transformers?), and he ACTS THEM WELL. Which is the point of being an actor.

Now, LeBeouf appears to be wanting to be an action star. If you look at the genre of Action, how many good movies have been released lately? Fast and Furious I enjoyed, but it did not trump the awesomeness of the first one or the sheer enjoyability of the third one (it kicked the second one's ass, though). The rest of them have been ass sucking, dog humping terrible. Is it his fault that his choice of genre has been a relatively large and steaming pile as of late? Was it Harrison Ford's?

Build up a nerd hatred for Michael Bay, most definately. We've given him three chances to please us, and he has failed... but do not hate on 'The Beef', as he is doing EXACTLY what he's supposed to do - act the lines as given to him.

Of course, if I were in his place, I would be as crappy of an actor as possible just to show Michael Bay that I hate his ass for forcing me to sign a contract (and I do believe Le Beef signed up for three movies, but I could be mistaken).

Sure Transformers is full of plot holes, shitty writing and even shittier directing, but c'mon. It's giant robots tearing up shit and turning into cars 'n stuff! I'm glad we get this much! Not that i'm in any way defending Bay, he IS a horrible director worthy of a good tar 'n feathering.

BUT STILL!
We get nearly 2 hours of giant robots blowing shit up and transforming. Considering the alternative of NOT getting a transformers movie AT ALL, i'm pretty psyched to see it.

I'll be going tomarro to see it on the big screen, then patiently waiting for a telesync to come out so i can download it.

Cause in the end, we'll never get exactly what we want. Seriously, never. EVER. Just be happy with what we get, block out the bad (just like your childhood) and be happy with the bits that make you smile.

Does anyone remember what you felt when you first saw Blackout land and you heard the transformation noise in the first movie?
Cause I for one am not ashamed at all to admit that I was grinning ear to ear at that moment.

Ummm...to which ghost/horror movie are you referring? And please, you can't actually be serious about Shia's "acting" choices? Lest you forget Eagle Eye...besides, if it wasn't for Steven Spielberg somehow becoming so enamored with him for some strange reason, he'd be lucky to be doing "Holes 2" or "Disturbia: City Limits". The only good to come of all of this is that after Transformers 3 tanks because of the residual resentment, Bay can finally join Jan de Bont, Joel Schumacher, Renny Harlin, et al in the Retarded Action Movie Directors Retirement Home.

Grenadier.... I cannot possibly say this politely. I can only be honest.

You are a fucking moron.

You say... "In all actuality there's no point in you going to see Revenge of the Fallen. You're so hell-bent on hating it there's nothing it can do to redeem itself in your eyes."

Yes. Hell-bent on hating it.

Despite the fact that you're championing a much hated movie, with it's criticism backed up with so many points that you do not even begin to respond or reply to them directly.

Rather, you constantly tapdance around all the criticism without bothering to say anything substantial otherwise, and pretending that you have any leg to stand on yourself, by giving your ignorant, and flat-out blindly stupid, and pathetically aggressive butthurt rebuttals with little to nothing of value or ontopic in response each time.

And you still have the hilarious nerve to delude yourself into thinking you've made any kind of point instead of simply embarrassing yourself and digging your own hole ever deeper.

You say that we are hell-bent on hating this movie?

Yes. We are hell-bent on hating a racist, offensive, unintelligent, get-rich-off-the-licence, token cash-in $$$$ sequel filled with robot testicles, explosions and twisted CGI walking junk-heaps, with wooden, stupid acting, and mutiliated characters with absoute disregard for what it's fanbase reasonably expects from it.

Gee. I WONDER WHY PEOPLE HATE a racist, offensive, unintelligent, get-rich-off-the-licence, token cash-in $$$$ sequel filled with robot testicles, explosions and twisted CGI walking junk-heaps, with wooden, stupid acting, and mutiliated characters with absoute disregard for what it's fanbase reasonably expects from it.

You're right. We're not looking for good reasons.

Because all the reasons are STARING US AND YOU IN THE FACE.

And you hilariously choose to ignore them and work SO hard to convince other people that a trashy, worthless, mindless cash-in sequel to a previously awful movie which seems absolutely intent on outbidding itself in the way of sheer fucking stupidity for the second installment..... is worth seeing.

You are Micheal Bay. Or you are a mindless corporate promoter lackey trying to convert people who don't feel like watchin shit that is proving from all ACTUAL ACCOUNTS by WHAT THE FILM CONTAINS to be miserable shit.

Either way, you are doing a terrible goddamn job.

Yes. You are a fucking moron.

@ Northsteve:

Amityville horror. Michael Bay redid it in 2005.

And, since you disagree with my opinion about his movie choices, that means you like them?

"violence Jack is a genius."

Quoted for STRONG TRUTH.

"Cause in the end, we'll never get exactly what we want. Seriously, never. EVER. Just be happy with what we get"

That right there, THAT RIGHT THERE, is the problem. YOU are why we get crap movies. YOU are the problem. You will swallow anything they want to feed you so why in the hell would they bother trying to make something good?

You are too smart to watch dumb movies like this. You obviously didn't go in hating it before it started. I mean, just because you noticed EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE MOVIE, probably doesn't mean you're a douche who wants other people to read the shit you type. You are probably a fanboy who's upset that the story is different than G1. Of course, if it were exactly the same, we would all know exactly what happens and you'd complain that no one can be original.

If the twins were left generic and plain like the rest, black people would complain that there are no black robots.
Wheelie, who wasn't black, couldn't read the writing either. It was ancient enough that only someone ancient could have read it (Jetfire). But all of a sudden its a racial thing.

Devastator had balls, so what. You keep claiming that in this day and age someone like Bay shouldn't be allowed to make statements of racism in his movies but here you are complaining about a fake robots balls.

And who the hell cares about the peanuts? The fact that you noticed proved that you went in to find anything wrong with this movie just so you can bitch about it here.

If you could do better, why don't you? Oh thats right, no one gives a shit about you or your ideas. I really must thank you for giving me something to do today. It was getting boring.

Go fuck yourself in your moms basement now.

Casper St. Valentine — My mom doesn't have a basement.

oh, and MERLIN is right.

A couple of things - Michael Bay was only A producer on that movie, not even THE producer, let alone director. And if the original was your all time favorite horror movie, you shouldn't even be allowed to give an opinion on what constitutes good movies, actors, directors, etc. etc. etc. Comparing FnF's is like deciding which turd smells the best, by the way. And Shia sucks Devastator's balls.

Rob I'm sorry - I didn't realize that you were just reporting on other sources. *SPOILER* I haven't even seen the movie either! I'm retarded that way sometimes - all the time, actually. Which is why I can enjoy movies like this - it REALLY helps. I'm the Douche - Baron von Douchetard, if you don't mind. All I was saying is that everyone knows that the blacks would rather be portrayed as illiterate homeboyz and pimps than nothing at all, and just one is never enough, right? At any rate, I really did appreciate you giving me something to do. My mom DOES have a basement (I live in it) and I was just getting tired of fucking myself in it.

i actually really wanted to like this movie. i tried very hard. and.... it was dissapointing "attack of the clones" style. really. no one is joking when they say that terminator salvation was better than this. i'm sad.

Regardless of these stupid reviews, transformers will still make more money than any movie who's producer chooses to stay away from stereotypes and prejudice. Frankly, i think it adds to the movie; the twins seem more real when they're clearly the "idiots" :)
If you think that this movie sucked because it had robot balls and sterotypes, then I'd like to see you find something that follows your criteria of being socially acceptable (besides fucking disney). People watched it knowing that it would lack a human element and that it would be 2 and a half hours of fighting and a good soundtrack.

I watched it last night and all 2 hours and 30 minutes were amazing. I appreciate your thoughts on the movie but frankly, you can go suck galvatrons delicious metal balls for all I care.

All the critics who say that this movie was are ignorant, and this kitchen scene is well done and it makes sence and goes along with the story line. You know what, all you nay sayers better watch the movie again and watch it for entertainment value, and forget the reviews you have read. If you dont want to do that then just forget about transformers all together and go watch van-helsing, or ice age or others like that because those are probably the terrible movies that you guys find interesting.

Okay, for all of you morons who say "the story line didn't make sense" or "why the fuck is a can of peanuts in the garage?" Try thinking OUTSIDE OF YOUR STUPID LITTLE MINDS! My dad has cans of random food scattered around his garage! What's in them? Nuts, bolts, nails, staples, washers, all kinds of small things that are needed IN A FUCKING GARAGE!

I've loved Transformers since I was a kind, my mother had the original series on VHS when it came out and I loved it. This film did justice to the cartoon. So did the first one. Now what actually ruined the franchise was Transformers Energon. That was some lame shit.

And how the fuck did the story line NOT make sense? Are you all mentally handicapped? Or maybe you just have ADD and really didn't pay attention? It was practically handed to you on a platter about three or four times during the film. In case you didn't get the memo, let me spell it out for you:

Big machine to harvest Energon (the stuff that MAKES Transformers) by blowing up the sun and killing all life on Earth. Thus, the fighting to save humanity.

Want the whole movie in a summary? Read below.

The Transformers came to Earth thousands of years ago. I believe the movie said at 17,000 BC, to be exact. They went around to planets and set up machines to destroy the planet's sun and harvest the Energon from it. The one rule, though, was that they COULD NOT destroy the sun if the planet had LIFE on it. Guess what, Earth had life! "The Fallen" was a Prime that tried to break this rule and was stopped by his brethren, the other Primes. After the destruction of the All Spark, The Fallen sent Megatron back to Earth to find the machine that he had set up thousands of years before and activate it so that their species may live. The Autobots, obviously, weren't about to let this happen and thus, comes into play the war. When Sam finds that piece of the cube and touches it, he starts seeing symbols, just like his grandfather did when he touched Megatron. These symbols are a map to the machine that is supposed to harvest the Enegeron. The little Decepticon that McKayla kidnaps leads them to one of the oldest Transformers on Earth; Jetfire. He explains to the kids how he got tired of being a Decepticon and turned to the Autobots. This stays true to "Transformers Armada" when several of them changes sides during the show. So we go through a bunch of explosions and awesome fight scenes of giant robot ass-kickings and we end up in Egypt at the end of the movie. Turns out Optimus is a descendant of the Primes, hence name, and only he can stop The Fallen. Only a Prime can kill a Prime. And so, after same brings Optimus back to life with the 'key', Jetfire sacrifices himself to upgrade Optimus. I need not say that a flying Optimus was pretty cool. Anyways, the upgraded Optimus beats the shit out of Megatron and kills The Fallen. Megatron and Starscream run for their lives, just as a good little bitch would do. Oh, and in the process, Optimus destroys the machine. Woo!

Autobots: 2
Decepticons: 0

So now go ahead and tell me that it didn't make sense. And if it still doesn't make sense to you...go get help. Go to the government and get some money for being mentally handicapped. They do that, so I hear. So go and get rich all you fucking retards!

Two Words: Target Audience.

This movie was absolutely amazingly awesome and also completely retarded. Try fucking arguing with me now, if you can figure out what side I'm on.

You retards obviously missed the entire point of the movie, which was the Camero. God, I can't believe I risk my life on roads where you people are allowed to drive.

... Why aren't there any Japanese cars in the movie? I know it's an American movie but still... ugh, nvm.

I mean the Skyline GTR R-35.

I watch the movie the night it came out. And the twins were ok . As for them not being able to read all they said was they hardly read . They even said it was some old language before there time. Can you read any ancient languages ? Guess wat bumble bee was right behind sam he to could not read the markings he didnt even say anything. As for the twins being black or not who cares i know alot of people that talk like them that arent black. Have you seen the animated sereies generation 1 please tell me how the writer is being racist by making jazz talk the way he is . Or should i ask what race is he acting as ? Because obviously you guys/females can tell what race they are by the way they talk .

I do agree though there are some parts you couldnt tell wtf they were doing. And they messed up on Arcee a fucking motorcycle come on a freaking pink chevy malibu wouldve done good since there using mostly all chevy cars and trucks. Soundwave sucked ass dunno wtf they was thinking when they were making him .And devastator thought it was going to be bad ass until until he finished combining and saw what he was doing .

Hi, this is Nar. I saw this movie a few days ago. I hated it. It was a movie made for stupids.

A waste of money and time. I don't need to give reasons because the review above hit it right on target word for word.

I don't appreciate a movie that forces or tells me to peel away my common sense/intelligence just to enjoy it. I'm spending 10 dollars to make hack director millions just so i must peel away my 30 years worth of intelligence so i can pretend this movie rocks.

BAD.

This movie is so bad. I actually blushed realizing i spent money to watch it. I should have seen Hang Over instead.

To:HiMom

You're calling people retards, yet you don't even know how to spell or string a sentence together in your post.

EPIC FAILURE.

BTW, this movie sucked!

Omg this movie was the epidomy of STUPID!!
Save your money. Its clearly made for stupid people, the equivalent of those who are easily entertained by the thumb trick or the jingles of keys on a ring.

Sooooooooo many dumb fucks out there take funny shit personally. Why is it that a "black" movie, or show can poke fun at "whites", and there is nothing said, yet, one movie uses stereo types for comical purposes, and damn near everybody shits themselves???? Seriously, grow up!! It's fucking funny, anyone dumb enough to bitch and mon about this should just kill themselves...quickly. Add on the fact that in the first movie, it was established that they learned of earth language and culture from the internet...can anyone say billions of "comical" stereotypes that may have been misunderstood by alien robots? Or, perhaps, they just connected with that type of "stereo type"? There are ,sadly enough, that do fall into that type of behavior. Oh, and they didn't say that they couldn't read, just they " don't read so much"...And to top it off, it was ancient cybertronian...But it couldnt be any of those things, no, because if it were, that would mean that you fuckers spending all your time whining about all of this bullshit, weren't smart enough to figure that all out on your own...that can't be...!!!???As for the planters can in the garage, did anyone eat from it? Are you certain it was supposed to be full of nuts??? Could it have been in the garage because Sams dad, like many other men in the world, reused it to house...nails, screws, or some other shit he didn't want to leave out to puncture tires, or stab through someones feet...no, that couldn't be it...that would make the set designers smarter than you overly critical sack wipes....Give me a fucking break...

I found this site doing an internet search to settle a bet
friend of mine emails me and says "Did you hear the shit about Transformers being racist?" long story short i took my kid to see it yesterday, and bet him lunch that someone made that up, and to prove it i'll google it and....... here you all are........
Wow, How sad is it that stupid shit like this even forms a mob around it
I mean anyone that is so out of touch with reality to read racism into a fucking robot movie and to write something as fucking goofy as "a river of feces and vomit...yada yada"
and then have a gang of follows behind it in support blows my fucking mind, didn't they make a silent bob and jay movie abut you people, lol fucking pathetic....... Racism survives because of people like you, Even Al Sharpton would think you're retarded

As I recall from the first movie, the Allspark does not make inherently evil machines, the machines are simply immature machines. Thus, they act as any other young do, which translates to firing cool weapons at others with no regard to the harm that they do.

I thought the movie was good but not great. And that quote about the twins not being able to read lol. Who ever believes in that is really dumb and didnt even listen to what the charaters were saying. Sam asked one of the twins if he could read the symbol . He replied nah nah he looked at his brother he said we hardly read . Also told Sam it was some kind of old school language. How many of you can read any ancient language? yeah just what i thought fucking idiots. Again when they were in agent Simms basebent he asked Sam if he showed it to his autobot friends . Sam said somthing along these lines of they cannt read it either it predates them lol. Omg fucking critics are hilarious and stupid . Another thing you idiots claim the twins is some kind of sign of racist umm you do know one is played by a black guy and the other is played by a white guy right? ohh dont you feel stupid . And most stupid thing of all is complaining about 2 ROBOTS THAT ARENT EVEN HUMAN.

Alot of you saying it couldve been better . I do agree but it was still a good movie. Lets face it just because its Bay's movie you already criticised it for any small stupid reason. The peanut can in the garage lol ? you gattah be fucking kidding its obviously in the garage prabably filled with nuts and bolts.Yes people do use empty containers for such things . Like the previous poster said "Racism survives beause of PEOPLE LIKE YOU ". Also if you didnt like the first one and watch transformers 2 and your on here crying about it . Guess what your more of idiot you didnt like the first one what makes you think your ganna like the second dumbasses.

Lastly for you idiots that think the twins could not read please explain why i dare you fucking idiots. here refresh your little mines cause well you cant listen to whats going on in the movies so ill type out for you again it may not be exactly as the movie but it is somwhere along the lines .

Sam- ask twins can you read these symbols
first twin - thats old school thats cybertonian
Sam - can you read this shows the other twin
second twin- nah WE REALLY DONT DO MUCH READYING

Please remember none of the autobots could read the symbols that were in Sams head so i guess all autobots cannt read? So please fucking explain to me how the twins cannt read?