I'd like to apologize to you guys. When I saw the trailer for Tony Jaa's Ong-Bak 2: The Bakkening, I thought it was pretty cool. I mean, Jaa did a flip kick off an elephant. That would seem to cool to anybody, right?
But then CarolinaHaze commented with a link to a trailer for Raging Phoenix, another Thai martial arts movie which features:
• The girl from Chocolate, that kung fu movie about the special need martial arts genius
• Guys with ridiculous bladed shinguards or something
• Martial arts breakdancing
• Drunken Muay Thai
• TEENAGE GIRLS PERFORMING DRUNKEN MUAY THAI
• What looks like some seriously real injuries
And I have revised my version of "cool" accordingly. Raging Phoenix is cool. End of line.
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alright !! this movie seems so great ,, i think i must watch this movie and brag it to my friends,and im sure i can get some ideas here about martial arts ..
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Jeeja Yanin is a 3rd Dan level Tae Kwon Do instructor even before she joined the Baa-Ram-Ewe stunt team to train for Chocolate. You should watch this youtube clip of her interview on Thai TV where they show her training. Jeeja is a top notch martial artist. The movie Raging Phoenix is NOT meant to be a "Martial Arts" movie. It is an action flick and romance which includes martial arts fights. If you want only Matial arts, watch Bloodsport or Quest. I didn't like this one as much as Chocolate either, but you shouldn't denounce Jeeja until you've found out more about her. Start at 4:20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXqQEnhyD0w&feature=related
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i've hated muay thai since tekken...stupid eddie...
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This is a Tony Jaa film. He owns the production company.
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Baa Ram Ewe is producer Prachya Pinkaew's production house. They produced Ong-Bak, Tom Yum Goong, Dynamite Warrior, Chocolate, Mercury Man, 13 Beloved, etc. And yes, the name is taken from Babe. Prachya loved that movie.
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they call them "Martial Arts" movies, because the main focus is on dramatic acting,and deep story development. Just like how we have Dramas for laughs and slapstick. Really, think about it. Martial Arts movies are even sometimes titled after the main type of style (be it real or 100% made up) that the movie revolves around. "Snake in Eagle's Shadow", "Drunken Fist Boxing", "Mystery of Chess Boxing" ect ect. I didn't watch Drunken Master to see the blossoming relationship between Jackie Chan and his master or Chan and his father. That 50 seconds of plot they lay out is all you fucking need. Cute chicks are getting kidnapped. Another chick wants to get to the bottom of it. She finds a dude who (in this movie) is a badass. He trains the shit outta her. She goes on a rampage. People get their asses beaten off the side of their faces in a pretty flashy manner. Roll credits.
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Go watch Fearless... maybe that will make you feel better.
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That's been my point and that's the problem. Thanks, Enigma2099!!! To simply state it, martial arts films get no respect as is and neither do the performers that break themselves in two to produce them. If people keep making excuses like "It's a martial arts film, so why're you looking for depth?" then these people will continue to be largely ignored and underpaid for their talent and hard work. Making excuses is not the way to show appreciation.
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... who the hell watches martial arts MOVIES fo depth?!?!?
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The ridiculousness is what makes it cool. It's over-the-top and cheesy and it works. I have to be honest, the choreography is interesting. However, I had never realized fights shouldn't be "pre-determined" in a movie. I thought it was given that anything in a movie would be pre-determined because it has a script and story to follow. This isn't a martial arts championship, which is what it seems you want. It's a movie. OF COURSE, everything is fake. It's what appears on the screen that counts.
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"Real Injuries! Even Flashier!" I admire their honesty.
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That looks ridiculously awesome, but I really hope no one gets seriously injured in the making of the film
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I still have no idea what it's about, but I'll definitely be seeing it. @Blaine0, good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that.
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As someone who practices both martial arts and break dancing, this is the most ridiculous damn thing i've ever seen
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Already people finding something to bitch about! Ong Bak 2 was awesome action. This looks like it'll be pretty good too. Asking for anything more from Thai movies is too much.
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Pure and total crap. Enough said.
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<i>But can you really blame the creators for pandering to a western audience? Wanting to make a buck for their hard work? Oriental movies don't tend to have a problem with lack of plot, more usually they're blessed with an over-abundance, which then becomes convoluted.</i> The problem is that their hard work is misdirected. Instead of busting their asses for the sake of producing the latest dipshittery, they should be making the kind of movie that Hollywood can't or won't make. If you really wanna make a profit, then give the public something they don't already have other than an Asian hero (don't even get me started on that...).
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They're breakdance fighting!
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The "bladed shinguards" look more like bladed powerizers to me. As for the whole "selling out" thing; the main reason these sorts of films won't see major release is that they're subtitled and most braindead fucks who pay to see movies can't/don't want to read. But can you really blame the creators for pandering to a western audience? Wanting to make a buck for their hard work? Oriental movies don't tend to have a problem with lack of plot, more usually they're blessed with an over-abundance, which then becomes convoluted.
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I'm a little in love with Jija Yanin. So um, yeah, I'll be watching this when I can. I don't care if it's overdone or whatever you want to complain about - it's still awesome. The trailer had three minutes of "we are so awesome!" because they ARE so awesome.
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You had me at Drunken Fist vs. Drunken Muy Thai.
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Ong Bak 2 was excellent. This definitely looks like it has potential.
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WTF Babe reference around 35 seconds? Baa Ram Ewe?
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I fear and loathe the parody ripoff of this. Though... dont those usually feature Wayans? The same people in GI JOE? this + GI JOE = utter awesome.
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I'm starting to get more and more convinced that the Thai martial arts movie industry needs to be smacked up a bit. This and the trailer for Ong Bak 2 just reek of over-hyped douchery. For the first time ever...two martial arts styles will meet in a highly choreographed battle where we pre-determined the outcome. (I'd also like to point out that this is FAR from the first time B-Boy moves have been transformed into martial arts. I've seen them used as far back as Sammo Hung movies.) This is why I stopped watching a lot of the HK action movies. Around the time of Gen-X Cops, they just started focusing on flash, names, and hype. No kung-fu skill necessary. We'll make it all up with flashy moves, jump cuts, special effects, and pop singer cameos. This movie here looks like it at least has some substance to its action, but the leg-blades cutting walls, the trailer's focus on how awesome they are (Seriously, that trailer was 50 seconds of barebones plot, and nearly 3 minutes of "We are SO awesome.") and the gimmickry employed have me very worried that these Thai movie producers are going Hollywood WAY too fast. Look, you guys are pretty good. Work on refining your techniques, not upgrading your flash. Otherwise, you're going to end up like the Bollywood action movie industry, where you're just making movies for the sake of showing how clever you are, only nobody else thinks you're clever.
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maachubo hits on the problem I have with this: It's gimmicky bullshit. Martial arts films barely get any respect as is, and shit like this and Tony Jaa's movies don't really help. Neither does the idea that only the stunt-work matters, and there's the major problem. As long as people continue thinking that way then martial arts movies won't be seen as "real movies" and fans will rarely if ever get the chance to see releases on the big screen. Just a thought I had...
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Chocolate was one of the best politically incorrect action fests EVER! That being said, This looks even more incredible. Jija Yanin is just insanely awesome! God forbid they make ANOTHER Rush Hour movie, I think we all know who our boy Brett might try to draft for it...
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Fuck and yes! Goddamn that was sweet. It's cool to see movies start bridging the gap between dancing and martial arts. There's been a couple of times when I've seen a dance routine and thought to myself "That was cool, but it'd have been better with jump kicks." And Chocolate was awesome! I blu-ray'd that one a few weeks ago and while the autism parts could be somewhat annoying, the action had me cackling with delight.
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Does 'martial arts breakdancing' really count as cooler than 'martial arts gymnastics'? "I shall call it Breakkata." stay tuned for Breakkata 2: Drunken boogaloo
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Awesome. I will be watx=ching this.
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