Nope, too little, too late. Heroes is off the DVR for me. Godspeed to you, Rob, for sticking with it for the live blogs. Godspeed.

I'm far too invested in the show to walk away, though I'll whole-heartedly admit to them flirting with shark jumping numerous times over last season. Sylar actually trying to be a decent person? That was cool; Heroes has always done morally gray very well, and antiheroes are awesome. Some of the incredibly bone-headed choices that the characters made? Not so much.

Here's hoping they deliver.

Rob, I learned on Happy Days that if you drink buttermilk before you sit down for a two=hour booze session for the premiere, the milk will coat your stomach and keep you from getting drunk....too fast.

I learned everything from television.

unless they can turn it around in the first few weeks I predict this will be the last season. it's a shame but it goes to show network TV that isn't mindless 'reality' dreck either isn't given a chance or devolves into a shell of its former glory.

Has any other show gone from simply fantastic to worst show on TV so fast?

The liveblog is the sole reason I would have any interest in this show anymore... and I just don't think I can do it, I'm just not masochist enough these days.

I can't think of any other show that has fallen so far so quickly (well unless you consider the original Battlestar Galactica turning into Galactica 1980).

As far as I am concerned this has one chance to keep me watching, if the 2 hour spectacular sucks then its off my list and I will forget about heroes. If its decent then I will watch the next episode and if it sucks....

The 1st season was some of the best scifi tv going, the 2nd started well but due to complaints of it being 'too slow' it went off a cliff... Who would have thought that putting a tv show on crack was a bad idea.... Haven't they seen the adverts with the egg frying...

Rob you are insane. There is no amount of scotch that will make the show good.

Heroes:
Season 1 - Jumped the shark when the cheerleader was saved.

I know lots of people pretty much gave up on the show after that point. Some gave up after the dumbass ending.

Season 2 - Jumped the shark when Nathan lived. Maybe Hiro in feudal Japan? I DVRed the whole season because after season 1 I could stand watching it. But after watching it in a marathon format it wasn't that bad of a season.

Season 3 - This was a complete fucking mess from beginning to end. What a piece of shit.

Season 4 - Good lord I'll only watch it because I'm invested in this mess by now. Not really looking forward to it.

I don't think I can bring myself to watch this season. I was pumped on the first two seasons, and even bought the dvds. But last season was so ridiculous that I decided I'd skip season 4 until it was done, and only watch it if the nerdmunity said it had redeemed itself. But at this point, I'm almost ashamed and regretting owning the first two seasons. Just knowing how badly the show turned out, makes it hard to go back and even think about watching the earlier episodes.

Smallville is the only live action superhero show I'll be watching this season. At least they show their climactic end of the season battles.

If they figure out a way to retcon Hobolossus back into the storyline, I'm sold.

Oh, live blogs.
=)

Didn't they say exactly this before last season? Not. Buying. It.

Other NBC Ads...

Hey it's free to watch so shut the hell up!

OK, it sucks, but so does almost everything else.

Look, it's the perfect show for doing chores while half watching.

Quit complaining or we will bring back SuperTrain.

I missed out on the original broadcast of Heroes so I had to watch it on Netflix. Season 1 was so awesome I watched the whole thing in one weekend. I'd heard that season 2 was bad but I didn't think it was THAT bad.

Then season 3 happened and it made me think season 2 wasn't just "not bad" but totally fuckin' awesome by comparison. So many tired ideas and the constant death/rebirth of Nikki/Jessica or whoever the fuck that dumb bitch actress plays nowadays. And Little Nicky Patrelli...ugh, I hate what this show's become.

I own the first season on dvd and that's it. I really liked the first season even though the ending was a bit bland for my tastes, but at least it left people wanting more. The second season was alright at times, but for the most part sucked. So in my opinion Heroes hasn't been good for a really, REALLY, long time.

Don't watch Heroes, but something wrong with Ali Larter? Seriously, haven't you SEEN her whipped cream nude scene from Varsity Blues? It's one of the greatest scenes committed to film!

I feel bad for all you guys who really liked the show. While I haven't seen it myself, I have a good few friends who do who, after seeing last season, felt like they just had one of their favourite pass times get beaten into the ground.

It's kind of a rule of television: once you hit the low, you either get new writers or you sink into oblivion. To date, I can't think of a single show that managed to rebound drastically enough from a major slump to make it worthwhile watching after that.

So which Heroes drinking game is the official TR one?

Lou-bert: Ali Larter is damn hot but her acting is pretty shitty, and with each successive season her characters only get worse and worse, and worse than anyone else on the show.

Unfortunately, I don't think that NBC is openly admitting that the show has turned to suck.

I'll give this season a try, but if it loses my interest, I'm just plain done. Loved season 1, was pissed at season 2 but still had enough good will from season 1 to defend the show, season 3 had a few characters I really liked but really started to lose me, and now... yeah. They'd better fucking redeem themselves.

The first season was all about discovery. Discovery of the characters and discovery of each of their abilities. In the end, everyone except for Hiro is pushed into heroics, and that is what made everything great. I don't need to Quote Ben Parker, but the bottom line is "some people don't want responsibility."

To use a nautical analogy, Heroes needs one captain. Tim Kring christened this boat (with Santana DVX) but the creative forces behind in have moved from Bryan Fuller, to Loeb and Alexander, to who knows. They need to pick their strongest writers and work out a solid game-plan. People like Aron Eli Coleite and Joe Pokaski, especially. They've written some of the strongest episodes each season. They can do what Lost did and start with the series ender and work backwards. Or they can start over.

What I don't want to see is storylines that I've already seen in comic books. If hey have to look to comics for inspiration, they should be looking to "Gravity," "Powers," "The Boys," or the novel "Superfolks." Or they could just hire Sean McKeever, BVK, BMB, JMS, Warren Ellis, Garth Ennis, and Neil Gaiman for a brainstorming session.

if they announce a change of writers, or i somehow find it out without looking too hard into it, i'll try it again.

otherwise, i'm that hag in Princess Bride who deftly raises riot when the princess marries the toad prince. booo! Booooo! BOOOOOOOOOO!

If only to see how they $hit on themselves finding a way to work the Sylar is really Nathan storyline I'll have to watch...But it's with a loose eye...This and Smallville have ensured no more superhero attempts for network TV in a while methinks....

Have you driven a Ford lately? (TM)

ok i'm gonna try to say this without sounding mean, i freakin' love heroes and for me this show is sooo ausome and im not losing any interest so forgive me if i feel a little offended by your remarks. and if you really hate it that much you can just stop watching it! its that simple!!!! just shut off your tv and let us heroes freaks enjoy our show in peace!!!!!!

I got my wife hooked on sci-fi: TREK, BSG, Marvel movies and Terminator. Now that was fine; a 5'7" nerd converting a 6' cheerleading/track running,B-ball playing/ex-model into sci-fi fan is awesome! Why did I have to show her Heroes? Now that it sucks, she insists I keep watching it with her. How can I justify avoiding it?

Seriously, it feels like they have high schoolers writing for the show now. I think the reason we still watch is that the storylines are so strange and non congruent that we expect some sort of big reveal to explain why everything has been so jumbled. It reminds me of watching LOST. The writers seemed to throw a bunch of nonsense out there and then eventually find a way to make it all make sense. Like spend 30 minutes writing 4 episodes, then spend the next few weeks trying to pull it all back together with some grand revelation. Like dumping a pile of legos on the floor and saying wait, wait, wait as you process to construct the death star.