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Yesterday I bitched about the continually baffling assortment of characters in Mattel's DC Universe Classics line. I thought their insanity was limited to just that line, but now I think that someone high up at Mattel has lost all his fucking marbles. Because you see that Ken doll above? That Ken doll is PALM BEACH SUGAR DADDY KEN.
Never mind his silly clothes or enragingly tiny dog. He is called PALM BEACH SUGAR DADDY KEN. BY MATTEL. THIS IS HIS OFFICIAL NAME. Seriously, look at his Entertainment Earth page. This is like one of those joke Barbies art students do in college to criticize gender roles forced on children by their toys, like Hobo Barbie and Pregnant Trailer Trash Barbie. Except this time Mattel made it. It's official. My world is rocked. (Via Geek Girl Diva)
Comments
tasakeru828 said:
Just you watch. This is gonna be this decade's "Earring Magic Ken".
Posted 10/28/2009 at 10:58:54 AM
VerbalGurl said:
No. Definitely NOT interested in Barbie. I am rather fond of his heavy-lidded, bedroom eyes, though ;)
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:01:50 AM
Jenova said:
I'm a fan of his hilariously small dog. I bet her name is Precious.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:12:09 AM
Captain Draino said:
OK. The DC Heroes figures were cool to tell us about. But I don't care about Barbie and what they do to her line of toys. I'm a geek, and that is the furthest thing from my mind. Geek-speak does not include the words "Barbie" and "Ken" in the vocabulary. Why would I want to know about this?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:16:01 AM
Hypersapien said:
@Jenova
I bet it's a male dog and it's still named Precious.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:21:37 AM
BorgQueen said:
I see this doll being pretty popular around June.... Pride Month. Although if this truly IS "Palm Beach Sugar Daddy Ken" he would go well with pregnant trailer-trash Barbie, if such a thing existed.
I feel an art project coming on
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:21:46 AM
bookfisher said:
I just trow up a little, does he come with his own compensating vintage red sportscar? Or with silver bracelets massproduced by the local jeweller ?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:25:49 AM
rosewater said:
more like "dandy fop" ken. where's the mint julep and the silk kerchief for wiping his brow when he gets a case of the horribles?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:27:26 AM
Merle said:
@tasakeru828
I completely agree and I kind of want to buy it for that exact reason.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:29:46 AM
Captain Draino said:
I have a question.
Why is it ok for everyone to pick on this doll for it's "gayness", but nobody could make remarks about the two girls who married on yesterday's post? I was watching insensitive remarks get yanked left and right. But today it's ok? How is that? I sense a double standard. In fact, I half expect my comment here to get yanked for speaking out.
Doesn't make sense to me.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:30:07 AM
Jenova said:
@rosewater
"I say, I do declare that I may be getting a case of the vapors!"
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:37:12 AM
Rob said:
Draino — Re the comments, this is a toy, which isn't getting married. I didn't want anyone dissing two real people or their decision to spend their life together on a post which should be purely celebratory. Meanwhile, I'm not at all worried about Ken getting his feelings hurt.
Second, re: Barbie coverage, it was more a post about Mattel going insane, Mattel being a company that makes many nerd toys. Additionally, it's a toy. Nerds are often toy collectors. Indeed, some nerd girls collect Barbies specifically. And last but not least, this toy is totally fucking ridiculous. That always has a place on TR.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:39:17 AM
cocacolaoso said:
Wow Pansexual Ken at last!
He looks like a cross between Jay Manuel & a young George Hamilton. But Sugar Daddy? Palm Beach? Ken has finally reach the middle ages and he's afraid of getting old? Is that a dye job? How Barbie palm beach looks like? Like Joan Rivers? Janice Dickinson?
This is so hilariously kitschy! John Waters will aprobe.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:40:20 AM
Hypersapien said:
@Captain Draino
There's a difference between just being homosexual an looking THAT stereotypically gay.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:48:31 AM
Captain Draino said:
Tell that to Mattel if they ever saw this article. They are very sensitive about the Barbie branding and any negative exposure it gets. They are one sue happy company. That is in no way to reference that I'm a whistle blower. Just saying I wouldn't screw with that company.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:57:33 AM
sal said:
the really eff-ed thing about this Ken doll, its the emasculating image it gives little girls who play with this doll...
Posted 10/28/2009 at 12:10:31 PM
jeffers3000 said:
The look on Ken's face seems to say that he intends to kill anyone who brings this up in the future.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 12:42:05 PM
King Psyz is rocking with Eddie Riggs said:
This hit FARK, trust me Mattel would be stupid to sue Rob here since it would further escalate the coming shitstorm once this thing starts getting around.
You just don't name a little girls toy sugar daddy anything unless it's a caramel candy in a yellow and red wrapper.
Mattel will pull/rename this product by week's end. Watch...
Posted 10/28/2009 at 12:46:21 PM
Mike said:
Well... to be fair.. it days say:
" For the adult collector. Order yours today! "
So it's not EXACTLY a children's toy...
Posted 10/28/2009 at 12:48:35 PM
MN said:
As Mike pointed out, this is "for the adult collector", so any outrage over this is hugely misplaced. Ridiculous? Sure. Misnamed? Absolutely, as he doesn't have anything remotely resembling "sugar daddy" to him. Funny as hell? Oh yeah. Definitely.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:00:40 PM
rosewater said:
it really doesn't sound like there's any outrage going on. it's just a really weird doll for a big company like mattel to be selling. who are they trying to sell this thing to anyway? i agree with rob that this does make mattel look a little nuts.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:08:00 PM
Art Student said:
Dear god --
How are we supposed to deconstruct *that*?!?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:11:49 PM
Jeff Barea said:
I have an ex-boyfriend that would totally love this doll.
Imma looking at u Josh!
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:12:54 PM
Fuzzy Nerfherder said:
I think that after that whole Bratz debacle and winning the lawsuit against that company who made them, they are trying to maybe make their dolls in a similar fashion?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:14:13 PM
Dave said:
So we went from "math is hard" Barbie to unambiguously gay Ken in, what, 15 years?
If this is what toys in a progressive society look like, then...I got nothing...I'm just dumbfounded.
Btw, Captain Draino is spot on about your censorship. You've proven your not interested in free speech, so be a man a censor everything remotely anti-gay. And even though this post is about a toy without feelings, the sentiments in a lot of the comments are anti-gay.
This post will be deleted in...5...4...3..2...
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:18:27 PM
Paul W from Santa Clara said:
I'm still waiting for Hasbro to come out with the Transformer's 'Ken Barbie'
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:20:57 PM
Amanduh said:
I'm confused as to why pointing out that something is stereotypically gay, is an anti-gay comment. Saying "Mattel is a godless communist company for producing something that might make small children believe that choosing the filthy sinful homosexual lifestyle is good"? That's anti-gay. But I don't see anyone saying that sort of thing here.
I do think, though, that Mattel is potentially opening themselves up a giant can of worms. It doesn't matter if the box for this product says it's aimed at ADULT collectors. The general public sees them as a producer of children's toys. Truly anti-gay groups that think this doll looks stereotypically homosexual could trumpet that Mattel is secretly promoting the "gay lifestyle", and their supporters will mindlessly agree. "Family values" groups could look at the name of this doll and trumpet that Mattel is secretly trying to prime young girls to believe they should be sex toys for older men, and their supporters will mindlessly agree. I can't believe that no one at Mattel saw those as possible reactions. Maybe they've decided that the Barbie brand's slide can't be stopped, and they would be better off morphing it into a collectors' line aimed at Gen Xers?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:31:21 PM
Captain Draino said:
There's an old saying Rob:
"What's good for the goose, is good for the gander."
I still say you have a double standard on this site. And I don't care if you like that comment or not.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:32:03 PM
Matt said:
To those that are upset about the "censorship" of the comments here: I believe that the criticisms people are offering here are more directed toward how a fairly conservative company like Mattel is attempting to pass off a doll that embodies a number of culturally accepted gay stereotypes as being romantically/sexually interested in that little tart, Barbie. The laugh is at their bizarre attempts to pass this off as straight, not at his presumed homosexuality. But to make anti-gay comments about two women getting married is a completely different animal entirely; there, the "laugh" is based on hate/fear as opposed to bizarre marketing decisions.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:32:36 PM
Nelson Kidd said:
If he has a dog called Precious, does he also keep baskets of lotion or aspire to have the perfect mangina?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:37:50 PM
Lenny said:
Who let Captain Draino out of the Aspergers ward?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:48:40 PM
Captain Draino said:
You can say whatever you want about me. I could care less since I don't have to see your face at my dinner table.
But THERE IS a double standard on this site, and Rob and a whole bunch of you are hypocrites! It's ok to say what you want as long as others are in the majority thinking. But point the finger, place the blame and call someone out and you get your comments yanked, you get ridiculed by other people and made the poster child for what that person may believe.
It's not even a case of being thin-skinned. There is no healthy debates on this site. It's just a backed up toilet sitting here on the internet waiting to be plunged.
Now go ahead an delete my comments.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 02:01:16 PM
Rob said:
Draino — You're certainly not the first person to accuse me of being a hypocrite, and you won't be the last. I may well be, but I don't care. It's my site. If this upsets you, feel free to cease reading TR.
That said, I can 100% confirm there is a double standard for toys and people on TR. Still don't care.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 02:09:07 PM
Captain Draino said:
You make that loud and clear everyday. Because you treat your comments section like the Gestapo.
There are better sites to cruise through than this one.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 02:21:07 PM
Merle said:
I really don't want to continue to drag this silly argument out but...
Like the gestapo? Really? Perhaps I just don't follow TR comment threads with as much vigor as you, but I don't recall any other time when there was a comment deletion controversy on this site. I don't even know what was removed yesterday, but this is a a fun/non-serious site; I'm all for comment moderation that keeps the site from devolving into religious/political/etc arguments.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 02:32:01 PM
LAO said:
I would assume the double standard is that two people in love should get some respect while a wildly off-mark marketing ploy should not. The fact that they both happen to involve "the gays" is irrelevant when looking at the different contexts.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 02:40:03 PM
Suki said:
If that doll were a real man, I would think "That guy can give me good tips on giving blowjobs."
Posted 10/28/2009 at 02:40:08 PM
Mike said:
$81 for this bastard. I was going to buy one because it's sure to be yanked from the markets soon... but $81???
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Posted 10/28/2009 at 02:41:21 PM
Bee said:
... It's funny because Ken is "supposed" to be straight, and in a long term relationship with barbie (or did they break up?). If Ken were being sold with his lover Brad, well, I might laugh a bit, but I wouldn't poke fun at how GAY Ken looks.
... it's also funny because there's no way a toy with "Sugar Daddy" on the label isn't going to be hilarious. Mattel has a long history of questionable marketing, and this kinda takes the cake.
... and it's all hilarious because it costs ~$90.
I'm sensing that some people here don't understand what is/isn't homophobic and/or obnoxious. I'm here, I'm queer, and I have a sense of humor. It's a toy. It's funny. Let it be.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 02:49:50 PM
RobP said:
Oh Captain, My Captain... Draino:
I think you're getting way ahead of yourself here. First of all, as far as I could see from the other thread, none of YOUR comments were deleted for being insensitive or homophobic or offensive, or whatever. From what I can gather by reading that thread, specifically people's un-deleted reactions, the comments that Rob removed were clearly hateful and coming from an ideological bent. Your joke early on in that post obviously was not, and thus, why it wasn't removed. From what I can observe here, no comments have been removed from this thread, either. Nor should they be, because, so far, no comments have been insensitive, homophobic, or offensive. That would mean, in spite of Rob's own "admission," there isn't actually a double-standard going on. At least not with comments that get deleted.
Second, as everyone else has already pointed out (and articulately, I might add) toys are not people. Observing that a toy conforms to a stereotype, any stereotype, and then laughing about how absurd that toy is, isn't the same thing has spewing hate at two people, any two people, who are in love and have made a commitment to be together for the rest of their lives. The two do not equate. It is not a 1:1 ratio. Again, there is actually no double-standard at work. To put it simply: If Wookies live on Endor, you must acquit.
Third, this is Rob's website. He can do what he wants with it. Much like some politicians on Twitter learned this week, if you break the contract with the owners of the site, you suffer the consequences. Rob has been consistent that hate borne from prejudice against a group of people (as opposed to hate for Michael Bay borne from prejudice based on multiple negative past experiences) will not be tolerated. Sometimes he warns people in his posts about this, sometimes he doesn't. The fact that he doesn't "warn" us every time he posts something just goes to show how much he respects his readers. So, calm down, take a deep breath, let the red recede from your cheeks, and realize that you aren't Will Smith and aren't being targeted by unseen and secret forces with access to satellites and Seth Green.
Fourth and finally, no, I am not Rob Bricken. There was some confusion the last time comments got deleted...
Posted 10/28/2009 at 03:15:51 PM
Anonymous said:
Matt said, "But to make anti-gay comments about two women getting married is a completely different animal entirely; there, the "laugh" is based on hate/fear as opposed to bizarre marketing decisions." I love that if you disagree with gay marriage or the gay lifestyle you automatically hate/fear gays. It couldn't possibly be because you have a moral objection to their behavior. It's entirely possible to show love for another person and not approve of their actions.
Merle said, "I don't recall any other time when there was a comment deletion controversy on this site." Really? Just make a comment disparaging Barack Obama or saying you have no desire to see Dr. Who kissing another man (or whomever it was) and see if your post doesn't get deleted.
This website may be fun/non-serious 95% of the time, but it does venture into political and cultural topics enough. And I'm guessing Rob knows exactly which of his posts will goad certain people and he looks forward with giddy anticipation to deleting their disagreement.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 03:40:52 PM
RobP said:
Anonymous said: "It's entirely possible to show love for another person and not approve of their actions."
Of course it is. But I believe the comments that we're referring to being deleted contained no sense of "love" in them. If someone wanted to post their disagreement with gay marriae on that thread while still expressing, as you put it, their "love for another person," all that need be said is something like...
'I appreciate that these two women are happy together, but I don't think it's right for them to have a wedding.'
One could even throw in, "For one, it's against the law." Opinions aren't what got deleted-- from what I can see-- hate did.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 03:48:58 PM
Dave said:
RobP, I'm anonymous, btw. I forgot to put my name in.
In my experience, when you disagree with gay marriage or the gay lifestyle the typical reaction from the pro-gay crowd is to label you as a homophobe or a hate-monger. It's pretty similar to disagreeing with the current administrations policies and being labeled a racist...but I digress.
"Opinions aren't what got deleted-- from what I can see-- hate did." I can neither confirm nor deny your claim, because, well, said posts were deleted. My question is this, how can you or the other Rob determine hate? Can you read minds and hearts? If so, impressive.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 03:59:38 PM
Matthew Grayson said:
I'm gay and I don't think this doll comes off as such. However, I do feel that some comments are bordering on saying it's "gay" as in stupid as Society just continues to de-evolve.
I don't think this doll necessarily gives off a stereotype of gay but I do think it then implies something negative about Barbie ... except for her brief "Math is hard" stint, she is about empowerment for women, but unless there's Sugar Mama Barbie (which, I think prolly is the reality when it comes to Ken, lol), it puts the character in an opposite light.
I'm not too surprised outside of that since Mattel and Barbie are huge when it comes to Fashion Designers out there, and the character has its share of the outrageous. Plus, Mattel seems to want to cause controversy. From Growing Up Skipper where you'd lift her arm to see breasts pop out, to "Math is Hard" to Famous Friend Black Canary where family groups viwed it as Too Sexy Biker Chick Barbie, they seem to have a mix of stupidity and "we don't care."
If this doll does prove controversial, I think it will just make it sell even more. Still, I think it was a poor choice of a name. Hmmm ... maybe Rich and Boring Ken would be better.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 04:01:54 PM
Matthew Grayson said:
OK, so I just checked the link. 82 dollars! That's about as wrong as this doll here, lol
Posted 10/28/2009 at 04:05:17 PM
Jrtinker said:
I still have my Earring Magic Ken in it's original packaging from 1993. This one looks like Tim Gunn from Project Runway. Can't you hear him saying "Make it work, people."?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 04:05:32 PM
Rob said:
Dave — Like any good nerd, I roll a 20-side die.
I appreciate those defending me, and again invite those who disagree with my totalitarian commenting regime to go read Hitler McRacist's nerd blog, or at least stop reading TR.
Although I would point out that if you're complaining about how I judge inappropriate comments during a post about an ACTUAL, HONEST-TO-GOD SUGAR DADDY KEN DOLL, you are taking things far more seriously than I am.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 04:09:42 PM
rei said:
Does Mattel not realize that one must NEVER wear white after Labour Day?!?
Mein Gott!!
Posted 10/28/2009 at 04:25:19 PM
Dave said:
Rob, I must not be a good nerd, because I don't understand your dice reference. And I'm perfectly ok with that.
I just went to the actual site where this doll is being sold. I no longer think homosexuals will be the fall of Western society.
"Sporting a dashing jacquard-patterned jacket with a light pink polo shirt and crisp white pants...Fashion designed exclusively for the Silkstone Barbie doll body."
Fashion is a useless endeavor. Fashion exclusively created for a Barbie doll is beyond comprehension. And THAT signifies the fall of Western society.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 04:27:05 PM
RobP said:
Dave,
You're right. I can't read minds, and I'm sure Rob Bricken can't, either. But you don't have to be able to read minds if what you're seeing vitriol explode out of someone's mouth (as it were). You're also right that I didn't get to read the deleted comments in regards to this particular debate. I did, however, read previous comments on another thread that were deleted, and while I would never delete a comment from my site (not that I get very many), I completely understood why the Rob here did. They appeared only to be loud, angry, and not constructive. They seemed designed to foment more anger as opposed to engaging in a reasonable discussion of the issue. Those comments weren't what we're doing now, and you'll note, these aren't being deleted.
As to Barbie Doll Fashion being the downfall of Western Society... haven't they been designing "fashion" for Barbie since the day she was created? I'm fairly sure that bit you quote is referring to the fact that they didn't take a human-sized garment and use Rick Moranis' shrink ray from Honey I Shrunk the Kids to make the garment fit the Ken doll. Obviously, they're going to have to design clothes specifically for "the Silkstone Barbie doll body." And, being a company with its own interests in mind, those clothes are going to be "exclusive" to Mattel's products, making them that much more collectible. But, really, they've been creating Barbie Doll Fashion for over 60 years... Unless that's what you meant?
Or, maybe I'm just taking your joke too seriously. I do that, sometimes.
Oh, and I don't get the 20-sided die reference either. But, then, I've only played D&D once in my life.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 04:44:32 PM
Lori said:
I'm pretty sure when they say "for the adult collector" what they really mean is "Waylon Smithers"
Posted 10/28/2009 at 05:04:10 PM
Dave said:
"But, really, they've been creating Barbie Doll Fashion for over 60 years..."
Okay, so Western Society has been falling for 60 years, then.
Maybe I am misinterpreting that sentence, but when they say "designed exclusively for Barbie" that would imply that you can't buy a human sized version of these clothes. It would imply that instead of taking clothes that already existing and making them in a much smaller size, we paid SOMEBODY to come up with an entirely new design for this DOLL. How do you go home at Thanksgiving and tell your dad that wanted you to be a doctor that not only are you a fashion designer, but you're a fashion designer for a DOLL?!!?
Lori, you're Waylon Smithers comment made me lol.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 05:16:50 PM
The Delphi Lama said:
Holy Cow! This is the first time I've visited TR but,(based on this article and it's responses,) it won't be the last.
I love the bickering about deleted comments, and the ultimately sensible rejoinder that you can always stop reading what you don't like.
Delete the hell out of anything that you find remotely "hateful" pal, I'm with you a hundred per cent. People have feelings, toys (and godless billion dollar corporations) don't.
Although frankly, I think this particular Ken Doll has feelings for me; I can tell because in spite of the misinterpretation of his gaze in earlier comments, it's pretty obvious from that inquisitive stare, that he's cruising me, big time.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 07:36:51 PM
demoncat said:
seeing that just proves how evil Barbie is . and Mattel goal is to have little girls want to be come like barbie and control the world. that plus the barbie execs who okayed that look for ken seem to finaly have proven to have gone insane working on Barbie. her evil has struck again
Posted 10/28/2009 at 07:44:27 PM
Jeff Barea said:
AcK!
Stop all the drama comments!
I think this doll is friggin hilarious!
But then again, I'm "that" guy who bought his boyfriend the movie theater Ken for Christmas because he once worked in one only to have him meltdown in tears before his parents because he wanted a Barbie.
Eh. cue the drama, be like living in Rhinebeck, NY again.
Imma still looking at you Josh. Heh.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 08:24:38 PM
jollybitch said:
To be fair, if ken is supposed to be a sugar daddy...shouldn't he be like 20 years older. Then when you play with him and white trash skipper doll it would look more realistic.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 08:28:11 PM
magallanes said:
Why nobody is saying that :IT IS A THUNDERBIRD. eh?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 08:41:37 PM
Celina said:
I went looking for this on Mattel's website as well as the officaly Barbie collectors' site. It doesn't exist on those places. My guess is that this is some sort of prank.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 08:49:23 PM
Celina said:
I just noticed the pre-order and release date. April 2010. I smell April Fools, anybody else?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 08:52:32 PM
Hagan said:
@Dave-
"How do you go home at Thanksgiving and tell your dad that wanted you to be a doctor that not only are you a fashion designer, but you're a fashion designer for a DOLL?!!?"
Wow, this really bothers me for some reason. Someone has to design fashion. Who cares what your parents wanted you to be. Is the person happy? Do they make a living? Someone gets paid to design all sorts of toys. Should someone be ashamed that they design GI Joes?
Posted 10/28/2009 at 09:09:37 PM
pathfinda said:
i don't have issues with the doll (and yes, it's a doll, NOT AN ACTION FIGURE!!!), or the name, (well, actually, I do, suga daddy??) but..
IT"S NEARLY $100. FOR A KEN DOLL!!!!
Posted 10/28/2009 at 09:39:29 PM
Lucifer said:
My parents totally wanted me to be a lawyer.
I'm a diesel mechanic.
I'm pretty sure if I told them I was going to start getting paid twice (maybe three times) what I make now to design tiny little clothes for dolls, they'd do backflips (bad backs and all) of joy.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 09:42:49 PM
Sugardeluxe said:
Okay -- this is not a "pink box" doll. Meaning this doll is not being marketed to or purchased by girls (boys or children). The pink box dolls are the every day play dolls you find at K-Mart, Wal-Mart, Target and such. This Ken doll is apparently part of Mattel's Silkstone collector's series. That's why it's expensive and will likely be rare. So Dave can rest easy that some poor unfortunate ("moral") youth won't get any crazy ideas about "alternative lifestyles". Ahem.
Speaking of. Why is it that some people who frequent sites like this proudly celebrate bizarre fantasy and sci-fi themes -- BUT the idea that two same gendered humans want to love and marry is just WAAAY too much for their precious brains to absorb and accept. Man flying in red cape? Good. Alien nations warring? Awesome! Two men loving? BAD!!! Pfft.
Also. I'm not sure why there's confusion or disdain about why this doll (or any fashion doll) exists at all. After working in the Barbie Boutique at the now defunct Seattle FAO Schwarz -- I've learned that crazy adult doll collectors are only rivaled by crazy adult action figure collectors. Yeah.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 10:41:08 PM
Charmed said:
If he truly was a Sugar Daddy, wouldn't he have a big ole beer belly and maybe some heavy mustaches? Definitely a droopy dick and saggy balls, for sure!
I'm waiting for Mattel to make the mini sex toys to go with Sugar Daddy Ken and Trailer Trash Babs!
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:10:56 PM
Blufyor said:
@Dave: I think the "designed exclusively for the Silkstone Barbie doll body" might just mean it has a different body size and fit than the normal Ken doll, so it has its own clothing collection. From what I see in a brief web search, the Barbie version of the "Silkstone" body has a permanent kooky pose and isn't even as pose-able as a cheap Barbie. Lame.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:49:05 PM
RocketTits said:
Come on Mattel!!!! Let's not make this so half-hearted! Let's make him more of a queen!!! HELLO?! Sweaters for the dog would be nice, or a designer dog carrier.
Posted 10/29/2009 at 04:15:32 AM
Mika said:
Art students design Hobo Barbies?
When I was little and playing with Barbies, I didn't have the convertible, or the dream house. I just had a bunch of hand me down Barbies with hand me down clothes (rarely did I get a shiny new boxed one), so I took it all out on the lawn and played Bag Lady with my Barbies... layering her clothes for maximum 'warmth' and carry-everything-with-you versatility. I wrapped accessories in tiny Barbie shawls and tied them to her. I even had a little Barbie suitcase I would pack up! Come to think of it, this was a theme. I also rejoiced any time a sizable cardboard box would come into my possession, as I would take it out on the lawn as well and 'move in' with all the blankets and pillows and snacks I could find.
hmmm.. I was a strange child.
Posted 10/29/2009 at 07:01:04 AM
Dex said:
AKA:
"IF I DROP MY WALLET IN FRONT OF KEN I'LL KICK IT ALL THE WAY HOME" Doll
Posted 10/29/2009 at 09:21:11 AM
Israel said:
n Fanny bandit Ken, a sugar daddy is an elderly man who pays a young girl to "hang out" witth him.. A Sugar daddy ken should have a hawaiian shirt , opend up, grey chest hair and a huge herringbone chanin. And the typical slakcs and sandals that all older rich men in florida wear... hey heres a thought, sicne he looks like a pimp, maybe i can buy him to keep my lil ggirls babries in line.. Is KEn gonna have to smack a B....
Posted 10/29/2009 at 10:55:15 AM
RobP said:
Ugh. Dave, you're moving beyond quality debate into prejudiced hysterics. So you're parents wanted something different for you, is there a more universal story than that? We're not supposed to live or lives hoping mommy and daddy agree with every choice we make for ourselves. Parental support is always a good thing, but it shouldn't have to come at the expense of finding our own joy. So some people design clothes for Barbie (not to mention every doll that's ever existed, as well as tons of action figures with costumes and uniforms that don't exist in the real world-- G.I. Joe, for instance). I'm sure there are some people who design clothes, specifically, for Barbie who have found their bliss because of that. Who is anyone to say that's wrong?
Posted 10/29/2009 at 11:55:19 AM
Anonymous said:
RobP, this is one of those instances where you took what someone said too seriously.
Why is it the only people allowed to joke are those left of center? Jokes about Christians or Republicans: funny. Jokes about Barbie fashion designers or a pink haired woman marrying another woman: hateful, homophobic, pejudiced hysterics. Is that the standard?
The group think on this website is staggering.
Posted 10/29/2009 at 12:25:38 PM
Greg Oreo said:
Wow, another must have for my collection. Add this tacky fellow to Earring Magic Ken and Prince Ken and what a menage a trois
Posted 10/29/2009 at 02:33:31 PM
cmh said:
The ignorance of many of those posting on this board of the Barbie collecting community, towards whom this doll is directed, is truly astounding. This doll is not your 9.99 beach party ken hanging in a blister pack at the local Wal-Mart. As someone has already pointed out in fact, this doll and the others in this series aren't available via the major chain stores, so don't worry that little Tammy or Timmy may be corrupted by seeing a doll in a green patterned blazer, pink shirt, with a small dog and start rethinking their sexual identity as a result.
The excitement about Sugar Daddy Ken amongst collectors is at a higher level than I have seen for a doll release in quite some time, so suffice it to say Mattel has been successful in intriguing the target group. It appears they've also done a great job of stirring up the latent homophobia that always seems to be bubbling beneath the surface of our culture. I just hope that Mattel has the sense to not allow ignorance rule the day.
Posted 10/29/2009 at 02:36:18 PM
Travis said:
So does he come with a convertible pink miata with his friend the Perez Hilton,
Posted 10/29/2009 at 03:10:24 PM
RobP said:
@Dave: Who said you weren't allowed to make jokes? The only requisite is that they should be funny. Even after I thought that line might be in jest, I still didn't find it very amusing. I tried. The failure of a joke is rarely ever considered the audience's fault.
Posted 10/29/2009 at 04:41:12 PM
JOE said:
I'm still waiting for "Quiet, Kept to Himself Ken" with the removable hockey mask and bag of severed limbs.
Posted 10/29/2009 at 04:43:02 PM
Lily412 said:
I can assure you that Mattel hasn't lost its mind in regards to the Barbie franchise; they actually have a pretty cunning recent business strategy. I've recently noticed Mattel attempting to turn the "cusp" buyers of Barbies who once loved Barbies but are now "too old" to play with them into collectors. Mattel recently came out with a whole line of throwback dolls that are slightly more pricey than regular Barbie fair, but much less so than collector's dolls: these included some of the most popular Barbies of all time and at least one per decade. Admittedly, it almost worked on me, and if I happen to see a Barbie from Barbie and the Rockers again, I may give in and buy it. >.>
Posted 10/30/2009 at 07:51:37 AM
KayKayB said:
I think Captain Draino religiously (obsessively?) posts comments here with the hopes that someone will actually take Captain Draino comments seriously enough to remove! I don't think you are getting the response you need, Captain Draino! I'm so sorry...:(
Posted 11/01/2009 at 11:12:36 AM
Cookie said:
Mattel pulled this doll from its spring 2010 lineup. So none of us will get the chance to proudly display "Suga' Daddy Ken" on our shelves. Darn.
Posted 11/03/2009 at 07:57:11 AM
Kate said:
Actually, it's Sugar's Daddy. The dog's name is Sugar apparently.
Still, the name is so bad, it's hilarious.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 01:46:44 AM
Steve Casey said:
Looks like he's troolling for a date with Pop Life Ken!!! Toooooooo gay for me.
Posted 11/17/2009 at 04:22:02 PM
FarleyNY said:
I do note Ken's obvious resemblance to Charlie Crist, the Governor of Florida. Am I the only one?
Posted 11/17/2009 at 06:15:01 PM
Kuromi said:
What's hilarious is that he looks like Spencer Pratt from the Hills lol
Posted 12/10/2009 at 01:51:00 PM







