Man, I'd forgotten what a prick early '30s Mickey is. So let's watch the intro to the Epic Mickey game and get this straight -- Mickey breaks into another world and Yen Sid's house, fucks with a mystic artifact he has no idea how to use or what it's capable of, fucks up an entire mystical world in about 30 seconds, creates the Phantom Blot, and, as soon as everything is good and fucked, runs home with his tail between his legs to let someone else clean it up. Christ, what an asshole.
That said, I'm still not sure about Epic Mickey. it might be fine, but it just seems like the whole game is a gigantic missed opportunity from when Disney backed down on making the twisted, dark game that was originally envisioned. That's the game I want to play. This, I'm not so sure. Thanks to Mike T. for the tip.
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i think you have more hope than the ones who have been waiting for the next chrono game
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Yeah man because GTA and Red Faction Guerrilla are totally the same game. So lame, huh? [/sarcasm] Jeez, some people cannot be satisfied. Wait till it comes out before you start telling everyone what the game's like.
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Agreed.
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haters gonna haaaaaaate
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Aaaaand you're one of the reasons I can't bring myself to like Kingdom Hearts.
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This makes me think that someone at Disney was half-asleep while listening to someone describe the plot of Okami.
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So Kingdom Hearts is ripping off Epic Mickey?
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A new Ducktales game!? Can you site where you heard that? I don't want to get my hopes up for nothing.
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well...if mickey wields a keyblade here...nah! i think i'll wait for Kingdom Hearts III, whenever THAT comes out -sigh-.
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as opposed to "Kingdom Hearts III"?
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i would go on a drunken, dual-wielding keyblade rampage if that was true! -sheathes keyblades- another time, perhaps -opens door to darkness and vanishes-
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Gandalf-dude leaves a burning candle on the table next to a bottle of "thinner"? I'm guessing he's not unaccustomed to waking up to a catastrophe.
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It is perfectly acceptable to soil one's undergarments knowing full well that the reality will not live up to the hype. If that joy were not permitted, we would all wind up with a razor in hand, sobbing at the last-minute realization that even death has been over-exaggerated and will surely disappoint us. Now pardon me while I go look at some more pictures of women who look like hell in real life.
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...I wonder what thoughts are in Europe about this game, since the characters that they talk about being "forgotten" have remained somewhat more popular in the European comics, especially the Phantom Blot. ...I can't wait to see the character list, myself. I'm really hopeful that a few of my obscure faves will make the cut! ^_^
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Fun Fact: The day Phantom Blot comes and pulls Mickey into the world is Mickey's Birthday; November 18th
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And thank god for that!
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wouldn't it be cool if at the end of it all, as Mickey's jumping around screaming "whose responsible this?" that the camera zooms out and we that it was just Bugs Bunny screwing with us all along?
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To be fair, this isn't the first time Mickey's kinda screwed over this guy.
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I read somewhere that the darker elements were dropped or reduced because test players felt uncomfortable with them. Sigh. "That's not my Batman!" God, the Bat-Mite was correct.
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I always liked Bugs Bunny more anyways, at least he admits when he's a jerk.
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Mickey is the creation of a money-grubbing racist, of course he's a butthole. Growing up i never got his appeal. He was more corporate slogan than real character. He might as well have been Charlie Tuna, except Charlie Tuna was funnier and perversely advocated the genocide of his own kind. Hmmm...maybe Walt created him, too?
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Here's some game play. Looks fun. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-epic-mickey/101477
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I'm not JUST arguing semantics. Initially sure I can see that. Though the themes are still much different than KH and really that's what I'm arguing for. Just so the uninformed will know the difference
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I agree with what most of you are saying, it's confusing that some people think the game has been changed just from this short clip. I mean you don't even really see Mickey in a gameplay world/environment, so how do you know if it's different or not? I think this looks very consistent with everything else we've seen so far. Unless for some reason you guys interpreted those spooky concept drawings as evidence that Mickey was going to go around slashing peoples throats or something? I'm just really confused about the amount of "dark" you guys were expecting out of a Disney game. Not that I'm saying less dark is bad, I think this looks great; just the fact that they are making a game like this is pretty incredible. My favorite thing about this clip is how Mickey's ears stay facing the camera no matter which way his head turns, just like they would on 2D Mickey.
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People, people. If this was anything like Kingdom Hearts, the dialogue would be mind bendingly terrible and we'd hear Mickey giving huge speeches about HEARTS and OMGFRIENDSHIP. I like the series and all, but the dialogue makes me want to vomit, I wouldn't want it compared to this just yet.
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You're just arguing semantics. Different lands vs different worlds. Different levels. Same things, different names (when it comes to video games anyway). No one is saying it's a Kingdom Hearts rip off, but the theme of Mickey fighting a magical darkness that's corrupting the world is the same. There are definite thematic similarities.
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I'm a little afraid of just getting another Kingdom Hearts, sans-Square. Which on a certain level is okay, because I love Kingdom Hearts. But I too would have dearly loved to see some crazy zombified Disney stuff.
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I'm a Disney nut. And a KH nut. I don't think they've released enough info, even with this trailer to make an accurate judgment on it. I'll rent it when it comes out. If it's cool I'll buy it. Simple.
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The animation itself is good, unfortunately dragged down by the graphics. I saw a video a while ago about how they were trying to imitate the old cartoons' animation, particularly the sort of stretchiness of Mickey. It was admittedly awesome.
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Is this the same game you $hit ur pants to in pre-production when many of us knew it wasn't gonna meet absurd expectations?
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No, I understoond what he meant. The twisted crap is still there. But you don't travel to different world to see it. Here it's one world with different themed lands (think Middle-Earth: Rohan, Mordor, the Shire, etc). If you're talking about the theme, I'd still say it's different because this deals more with abandonment and taking responsibility for one's actions. Something KH never delved in. Sure you've got the scary black thing, but that's about it.
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I think you didn't understand what he meant... Kingdom Hearts: Disney worlds corrupted by an evil, shadowy force. Epic Mickey: Disney worlds corrupted by an evil, shadowy force. Yeah, the game play and such is different, but the underlying (lame) theme is the same.
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The rendering on this cinematic is admittedly very poor--definitely below par for today's standard--but the character animation itself, especially on Mickey, is absolutely beautiful. Kind of the opposite of the super-polished but heavily mocapped and dead animation I've gotten used to seeing from Square Enix. It worked for me. In fact, as a Disneyphile (especially pre-war Disney) the whole thing worked for me. I loved the bit with the calendar. And yeah, 30s Mickey was always an asshole. The Steamboat Willie short is basically an exercise in animal abuse.
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I'm a big animation dorkus so I'm looking forward to this game quite a bit. I love the nod to "Through the Mirror" at the beginning there. From what I understand a lot of the character designs and concepts that people saw that made them assume this was a horrific steampunk Mickey game are still in use. They're just not in the opening scene.
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Specter hopes to follow this up with a new Ducktales game. That guarantees that I'm buying this game for every person on my Christmas list this year, even if they don't have a Wii.
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No. All of the stuff is still there and it's not the same as KH. Don't let the OPENING movie discourage you into thinking that it's the whole game.
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Rob, I understand you have to be all curmudgeony because you read lots of FF for Fridays, but honestly. THIS is just the premise for what starts the game. THIS isn't what you base what the game will be like, other then the plot. ...and it looks like it's going to be dark enough, from the tail end of the video, so I'm not sure what you're wanting. This doesn't look like it's going to back away from the original "twisted" concept of the original art, other then in it Mickey had black paint globbing off him. >.>
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So... mickey being a jackass tries to paint an obvious statue of himself in the beautiful world yen sid was creating, the statue turns into a dark evil shadow filled with corporate greed and turns the pretty world into shit. Then, years later after mickey becomes king of the world the shadow swallows him and throws him kingdom hearts style onto a circular stone tile, which probably has Disney style carvings.. I'm kinda surprised they didn't add the doves. I was literally expecting this to be an almost horror game after looking at all the concept art. I was looking forward to the steam punk style, but I guess it would have scared little kids? I dunno.. I'll probably get the game, but its defiantly not on my priority list.
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I'm still pretty excited for this game, mainly for what I've dubbed Terminator Donald. http://videogamesrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/epic-mickey-robot-donald.jpg Not to mention I like idea that outcomes of parts of the game depend on what you choose to create,with paint, and destroy with the ink thinner. Such as characters may decide to withold information and what not. Or the fact you can wipe out characters entirely. Oh and the fact they're using a lot of old disney park landmarks and characters that have been forgotten/replaced/etc. (ie: Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse, which was replaced by the ultimately lame tarzan treehouse.) That and I'm a sucker for disney crap who goes way too often.
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Well, I still think this looks pretty neat, although I would've indeed liked to see more of that early concept art. All the same, it's unfair to hold very early concept/design art against a game, especially since it wasn't anywhere near final.
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yeppers. Disney even traded one of their ABC sportscasters to get the rights back to him for this game.
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This could be pretty good (even with the poor graphics), but I agree, I wanted 'Steampunk Willie' (as ScrappedAeon put it), not 'Kingdom Hearts'-lite...
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Sooo instead of all that twisted crap we saw in the concept art, we get classic Disney worlds plagued by shadow...So Kingdom hearts right?
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I agree that it should have been Steampunk Willie instead of this crap.
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Isn't Oswald the Lucky Rabbit supposed to be involved in this, in some way?
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It's like I want to play this game, but it is for the Wii only and as much as I like playing with my Wii (yeah I said it) with Metrod and a New Zelda coming out that about all the attention I can give it, I lose intrest in the wii very fast
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Not all. Entirely different franchise
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Is this supposed to be related to Kingdom Hearts?
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Um. I'm not so sure. All I've read about the game sounds great, and just thinking about that concept art gets me all riled up. Rrr. But this just looks kind of lame. And the graphics really aren't very good. It looks like a PS2 game. GAH I can't make up my mind!
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