Not fucking cool, TFU2. I don't care what Elseworlds-type nonsense the DLC is supposed to be, but Han Solo and Chewbacca do not die, ever, and they certainly don't die like bitches.
I can't believe how scandalized I was when I saw this. I know Luke was in the DLC for the first game; did he die? It made me realize I have bizarrely different standards for these characters, even in non-canon. I can handle Luke dying, but Han Solo and Chewie? I'm appalled at the thought. Weird. Thanks to Spaceboy for the tip.
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***SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THE READERS OF SW BOOKS!!!*** actually, Chewbacca does die. and it is part of the continuity of the Star Wars univers. it happens in the book Vector Prime. Chewie gives his life to save Han's son, Anakin. requiescat in pace, Chewie. requiescat in pace.
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This isn't any more messed up than the rest of the EU has been since about halfway through the New Jedi Order series, and maybe even earlier. It's now official policy that the story isn't any good unless major characters die pointlessly to advance the plot. For the record, it'd be way more pathetic if they just surrendered and begged for mercy, slinking off into the forest and hoping to get their revenge later. At least they went out fighting. And there should still be an Ewok inside that AT-ST...
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Umm... you do realize the DLC is based on the assumption Starkiller killed Vader and replaced him, right?
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It's an alternate "what if" story, it's not canon, and it's not part of the main TFU story. - Some of you make me embarrassed to be a Star Wars fan.
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The guy who kills Han looks like he escaped from the "Assassin's Creed" series.
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That settles it: The Force Unleashed games are nothing but bad. non-canon Fanfics written by Darth Vader fanboys.
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What the hell? Thanks for the spoiler warning... I know you're upset but some of us haven't played the DLC yet...
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I do have to say, it seems extremely lazy to reduce such iconic characters as Han and Chewbacca into quick-time events. You'd think they'd make a point of making them somewhat more difficult to defeat just for the sake of gameplay satisfaction.
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Since he and his two Ewok buddies Tarzan-ed their way into one in Return Of The Jedi. The proper question to ask is where the hell are those Ewoks when Starkiller is strangling Chewbacca.
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For what its worth,I didnt enjoy the killing of Yogi Bear either.
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"Less rape, more Star Wars" sounds like something we'd say after a typical FFF.
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Sorry to hijack this reply, but I wanted to let people know that for some reason this is available as DLC for the 360 for only 80 pts. Given that they charge 800 pts just for some costumes, I suspect it is a mistake, so if you are thinking of getting this get it now. Also, while the Chewie/Han fight is lame, I found the final battle quite good if almost frustratingly difficult on the first go-through.
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Well, technically Chewie died in the expanded universe novels... but it took and entire moon thrown at him to kill him. And Chewie was all like "BRING IT ON!!!" when it came crashing into the atmosphere.
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oh hell i couldnt kill bobafett or obiwan in the first ones dlc..... ok well i did but i didnt like it....
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Someone showed me all the flaws in every Star Wars movie a while ago, and I realized that I have a choice: I can acknowledge that they are bad movies and hate absolutely everything Star Wars (Because let's face it, the movies are corny pulp AT BEST) Or I can acknowledge that they aren't "good," but they are a lot of fun. So much fun, in fact, that I'd love to watch Star Wars again and again. I chose the second.
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Since when does Chewie man a AT-AT walker?
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Yeah, the problem is that the footage consists of "See how awesome Starkiller is? He can kill HAN SOLO! WOOOOHOOOOO! That's why we're better than you!" This is also what the entire ad campaign for the game was about. "Look! He beat up Darth Vader without breaking a sweat! See how AWESOME he is? And he can rap, too!"
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You know, I feel like lightening the air a little with a picture of George Lucas wearing a 'Han Shot First' T-Shirt. http://latimes.image2.trb.com/lanews/media/photo/2008-05/39347923.jpg It's things like this that make me wonder if the MPAA wanted him shooting second, and threatened with a PG-13 rating.
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I think the only problem here is how lamely they went out, I think most people would agree that if han and chewie went out not looking like such pussies it would be fine. I can think of a lot of ways for it to work so that they die fighting a good fight and starkiller still defeats them easily. The problem here is that they died in such a way that if they were stormtroopers no one would think they were characters of any significance.
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After reading all these whiny posts about "this or that being raped", this actually made me chuckle. It was a much needed gem! Very funny!
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So Topless Roboteers, Murdering Yogi Bear was cool, killing Chewbacca = not cool? YOU PEEPS GOT WARPED PRIORITIES.
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A real Sith Lord absorbs laser bolts with his hand.
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This DLC was awesome! Only $1 and it's a great level. As if Ewoks falling by the dozens wasn't enough, killing Chewie and Han is a great alternate universe bonus. Plus bitch-slapping Jedi Leia before killing her? Worth the price of admission by itself.
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Agreed. When it comes to videogames and inherent infinities content, I just try and have some fun. Not too interested in this as the Force Unleashed II was such a huge dissapointment. Four real levels...ugh, it makes me want to cry thinking about it.
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LOL
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I concur with Emerson. I am not an angry or hateful person, but I have short patience with people who take facesious things seriously or kill a lighthearted mood thinking they have the right to be the word police. This is one of those pet peeves of mine. You are with a group of people and everyone is having a great time, someone makes a joke of off the cuff comment and someone gets all serious and says "My (insert relation here) was/is (insert reference here)." The room becomes silent and the fun atmosphere is KILLED. I fucking hate people that think their experiences give them the right to kill everyone elses good time, especially when it is said in the abstract and is not in reference to them. It applies to me as well, whenever I hear people crack jokes about issues I care about, I cringe internally, but I keep my trap shut because it is not all about me.
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Typos lead to suffering.
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Well, at least Han shot first this time.
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This is all to set up Starkiller's defeat at the hands of the greatest heroes of the Republic. Tag Greenley and Bink Otauna.
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http://www.yourfunnystuff.com/2009/11/18/golden-girls-action-figures/
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well, according to the button sequence when he takes out the at-st at the end, i would say that you're right.
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Scene Begins: Fancy restaurant, three people sitting at a table, one person in a business suit while the other two are dressed in jeans, one with a faded "Revenge Of The Jedi" shirt, the other with a "Han Shot First" shirt Businessman: Look, when we said that killing Han Solo and Chewbacca in Force Unleashed 2 was so easy, a Star Wars Nerd could do it, we didn't realize any of you guys still existed. SW Nerd 1: (sarcastically) Well maybe next time you should do a little research, hmm? Waiter: Can I take your order sir? SW Nerd 2: I'll have the roast duck, with the mango salsa. SW Nerd 1: I don't have much of an appetite tonite, thank you. (looks at businessman angrily) End Scene
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I think im angry about this. The best Star Wars novels I ever read were the han solo trilogy where it went into his past. I would probably throw a controller, or whatever i was using, against a wall if i had to actually play this.
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I too think that "rape" is used too casually, especially when it comes to a sci-fi franchise. Every time it's used so casually, it lessens the impact of the word even if it doesn't have to do with physical abuse. It's the same way epic has been seriously watered down. However, I still find dead baby jokes funny.
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Well, you didn't give two shits. But that still leaves the question of whether a single shit was given today about the game.
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Eh, it's a right of passage. Seeing what's cool to you suddenly become old fashioned and something you find somewhat abhorrent take its place. Youth defines cool. And the nature of youth is to rebel against the authority of the previous generations ideals. Not for any reason, or values, but because it's just the nature of being young. If anything, I'm just incredibly bemused to realize that greek mythology has to some small extent become ever so slightly cool.
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We seriously need some star wars holiday special merch. I have never bought an action figure in my adult life. But I swear, I'd be rushing for the order button if an officially licensed bea arthur star wars figure was released.
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I refuse to accept that anyone, anyone, is powerful enough to get past the force field of pure cool that hovers around Billy D.
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It does rather put things in perspective when the voice of reason is the guy who introduced most of us to the concept of optimus prime having a piss fetish. Then again, its a site with content like that where we all come back for more. I think it's rather impressive that any conversation winds up something other than gibbering madness.
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I'm pretty sure that in star wars discussions the shift to serious issues of suffering, death, torture and such is to try distracting our brains lest we remember episode 1 too clearly.
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Cheney'd?
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This is what I love about Topless Robot. We get to take silly spats about innane things and turn them into serious debates.
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I totally disagree. One of the things I hate about star wars is that with so much of the material you know what's going to happen before even picking it up. The whole reason I like science fiction and fantasy is that the fantastic setting makes it less predictable since it doesn't have to obey normal rules of the world. Shackling it to the status of prequel winds up destroying much of the point for me. This though. Seeing this video a couple days back actually got me to buy the first game. I like the idea that it's willing to mess with continuity like that.
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And I was literally crippled some years back. I went through a brief period where use of the word in different contexts annoyed me. "Your character in this game is crippled, oh fuck nooooooo. You don't understand the pain and nightmares and memories of shattering bones and flame and terror. That's my word, you can't have it!" Then I realized that if every single person who had unusual circumstances demanded society adapt itself around their inability to cope with and ultimately overcome their problems than we'd be a planet of, well, cripples.
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ugghhh TFU DLC timeline Starkiller kills Boba Fett and Obi-wan at Mos Eisly and not just his body his actual force ghost too. So who knows where Luke, Han, Chewy, and the droids go. Probably Not Alderaan but rather the closest Rebel Alliance recruiter.Where the Death star plans are recovered from R2 Death Star #1 still destroyed by Luke as he is still force sensitive, and makes him #1 target for the empire. Hoth base attacked and Starkiller accepts Luke as his apprentice. Everyone else, Han Leia, Chewy, the droids get away. So Luke is captures/turned so there would be no reason to hire bounty hunters, nor any reason to set up a trap on Bespin to capture Luke. Therefore there would be no reason to rescue Han from Jabba's Palace. Remember frozen Han was just Fett's delivery tip Fast forward to the attack on Death Star 2. Han and Chewy still leads the ground raid with Leia. And you get StarKiller killing everything, lamely. Alternate Timeline, What If's, and what not. I am of the opinion the cut scene is lame, especially since AT-ST's are basically the Abbobbos of TFU. Hell the fight against Boba Fett, was more challenging. I guess DLC for $0.99 you get what you pay for. But I don't think that this bit of speculative fiction hurts the product as a whole. Non-discerning Idiots who buy everything with "Star Wars" on its label does. <Sips Iced Tea out of Jar Jar's Head and goes back to work>
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Why did Han cry while eating steak? Because it was Chewie.
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Ain't nobody takin' Chewie out that easy. I call BS.
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Keep on going you guys. I am very much amused.
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Wow that video actually made me bored
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I'll stop now. Try not to take thing so personally. I don't mean to be rude. It just happens. Have a good day. Sorry for being offensive. My bad. :-)
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Chewie was killed off for one simple reason, the writers found it hard to write Wookie dialogue. All Chewie was in the EU was an oversized baby sitter. He was ignored in novel after novel. I guess the fact that he couldn't speak basic made him useless to most of the EU writers. He was more scenery than character in the EU and it was a damn shame. So when it came time to kill someone off they chose the one main character that they used the least; Chewie. He had a great death, but his death was still a gimmick.
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Thanks. It was non-fiction.
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Actually in one of the EU books-- several jedi worked together and sent an entire fleet of star destroyers to the "OTHER SIDE OF THE GALAXY" as in sent them faster than warp speed- as the captain discovered it would take them over a month a maximum hyperspace to get back there (despite the journey being less than a minute)-- And that was just one of the moments cementing JEDI POWERS as a crutch for every EU writer who couldnt come up with a decent ending..
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Actually- he wanted to kill off Luke- and Lucasfilm told him no way.. pick a different main character..
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I like Starkiller. He's a cool and powerful character. I wouldn't expect anything less to be Vader's replacement in an alternate universe. That said, that was indeed a pitiful way for two of the most loved characters to go. They really could've done something better and consistent to the story, seeing as Luke did become Starkiller's apprentice in this alternate universe (then it would've been Han and Chewie who end up getting digested in the bowls of the sarlaac).
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Reasons why Chewbacca gets no respect at all (1) His homeworld is the subject of the worst thing Star Wars ever made --When George Lucas whores out every goddamn thing in the Star Wars universe ad-infinitum EXCEPT the Christmas Special, what does that say about it? I guarantee we'll see action figures of those stupid sisters in the bar before the Christmas Special ever gets an official video release. The fact that it centers on Chewbacca and his family on his homeworld means that he's even dissed by his own creator. (2) His job can be done by a moron --When a gibbering Cheech Marin look-a-like alien can co-pilot the Millenium Falcon full speed through the inside of the fuckin' Death Star, that makes your ability to fly through an asteroid field or doing the Kessel run look pretty pathetic. (3) His choice of fire-arms is stupid --One-handed blasters can shoot the shit out of everything but Chewbacca insistes on using a two-handed laser crossbow whose only advantage is that no one else can shoot with it because they would be too busy laughing their ass off to aim the unweildly thing. Light-saber nunchucks are more practical than Chewie's piece of shit gun. (4) Wears no clothes --He has a satchel.....that's it folks. He's the only naked character in the Star Wars universe. Slave bikinis cover more than Chewacca does. Goddamn Ewoks cover more furry parts than this burning man reject from a galaxy far-far away.
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So, I was watching a review for <i>The Force Unleashed II</i>, and the gameplay footage made it look like it was supposed to be <i>God of [Star] War[s]</i>. Am I correct in this assessment, or was the limited footage just misleading?
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You win the internet for the day. -- I'm kind of one the fence with this whole rape issue. On the one hand I don't want to diminish the impact real rape has on people or make it any less shocking. But then again, this is Topless Robot, which has used rape as a form of gross-out humor every Friday for the past two years. Is it really any worse than saying , "oh you're killing me," or "I'm gonna shoot myself if I read another rape fic."
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The only things worse than seeing that: 1)Parents having sex. 2)Greedo shooting first. 3)all 3 prequels.
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You flew too close to the sun, Icarus. It happens.
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Yojimbo is still cool, brothaman.
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I want people to stop using the phrase Shit-in-the-mouth so casually. Some people very close to me, have actually had Shit-in-their-mouths, thank you. People need to find a better metaphor.
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Just to clear it up for all of you, in the Hoth level in the first TFU, you actually make Luke your apprentice, you don't kill him. Also, Starkiller is very much a Gary Stu (or, if you prefer, Mary Sue) character, so these what-if scenarios exist to show how much better he is in every way than all the other Star Wars characters. At least, that's my perception. That said, I loved the first game and am waiting on Gamefly for the second.
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Well, you have to tack on VI for the sake of completeness, and there's enough awesome scenes in VI to make up for the Ewoks. If you only accept IV and V, the story is incomplete. And that would drive me freakin' nuts.
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Honestly folks, what do you expect when you PLAY THE VILLIAN!? Starkiller's not going to shit ice cream and flowers and give them to Chewie and Han. I think this shows how being an adult nerd fucks with the brain. If you were 14 and ROTJ just came out and this game wandered in our scopes, you wouldn't go, "I can't believe they killed Chewbacca and Han!!". Instead you'd go, "I can't believe I can't make Starkiller shred up Han Solo like string cheese and then gut Chewbacca to make a rug out of him."
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No, those don't feel strong enough. We need a word that triggers revulsion and anger at the same time without offending anyone. -- I was thinking along the lines of defiled, peverted,murdered, mutilated, ravaged, violated, or twisted. -- Aaaaaand now all I can think about is Gardevoirs.
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Meh. I feel nothing about this. TFU2 was so short that I used up all my feeling burned by LucasArts long ago.
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Shit-in-the-mouth
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Desecration? heresy and or blasphemy? necrophilia? Destruction of childhood love? And sorry ladies and gents, I sympathise, but they are using the word technically correctly. Its like 'niggardly'- an actual word that the meaning-and more importantly, the emotion and social forces behind it- drifts over time.
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The more I read these responses the more I am lead to think about how it isn't really as annoying to me how they die, but rather the implausibility of this occurring at all. Considering if you take into account that in the Infinity timeline Starkiller kills Luke at Hoth, which means Luke is unable to save Han and Leia from Jabba on Tatooine. Which would essentially mean that Han, Chewie, and Leia would not be present at the attack on Endor, unless we are lead to believe that Lando alone sprung them and that is just preposterous... I actually find the lack of continuity within the possibilities of the Infinity universe to be far more frustrating than the events they actually depict.
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Though his death, in a sense, was in vain :/ GOD DAMNIT, GEORGE, STAR WARS FANS WOULD NEVER CONFUSE ANAKIN SKYWALKER AND ANAKIN SOLO. THEY READ EU NOVELS FOR CHRIST SAKES!
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But it's so much more fun to be bitter and rant.
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That is sad, but funny. I'll allow it.
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Dead babies are hilarious.
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Yeah. I'm sad Chewie died, but at least it took an entire planet to take him down. This is just sad.
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It's a sad day when Rob has to step in as the voice of reason. Less rape, more Star Wars. Original, prequel, whatever. It's about sweet space battles, not debates on the morality of certain language to describe said space battles. Love the old? Stick with it. Hate the new? Avoid it. Not that hard, folks.
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Who cares? Its not Canon and its just a game.
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Now we know why his name is Starkiller
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It's part of the DLC, not the main game. So you'll never have to see this part because, really, who buys DLC for games they rent?
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Why is Zartan on Endor? Is Cobra considering a timeshare there?
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What about FFF? Alot of this site is "in the gutter."
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Ill stop now. Try not to take thing so personally. I don't mean to be rude. It just happens. Have a good day. Sorry for being offensive. My bad.
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Whats funnier than a dead baby? A dead baby in a clown suit.
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Cool story bro.
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The article title pretty much summed it up for me. Any curiosity or desire I might have had to try this game just died.
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I'm more pissed that it was to fucking Starkiller. Really? The franchise's resident geek fucking chiq fratboy-appealing "badarse"? Please. My Monkey Island love will not save you this time, Lucasarts.
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BTW, yes, you got to kill Luke in a "reimagined" Hoth level, much like this. Actually, if I remember it right, you turn him to the dark side and then kill him anyway.
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Can we all settle down, please?
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Stop trying to trivialize a word just because it has meanings that are not all horrible acts of violence on a person that are both emotionally and physically damaging. Or are you some jackoff that thinks that it is funny to talk about rape and make dead baby jokes?
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Can anyone think of a stronger word? I got nothin'.
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despoliation:plunder or pillage;an act of robbery on a large scale. Rape doesn't just mean the physical act commited against a man or woman. Get your mind out of the gutter. this is a fun website.
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We've seen the Ewoks, the prequels, the damn SGI cartoon, the crappy games and now we're watching this STARKILLER dipshit killing Star Wars. At this point we need a stronger word than "rape".
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No it doesn't. There is no way to side step around it, find a different way to voice your displeasure on how Lucusarts has twisted the franchise. @David Garrett perverted works just fine for me, I'm not against the complaints just against using the word rape for things that are trivial in the big picture
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Maybe this is the devs venting steam over that fact that Lucasarts is canning the franchise. Still... fucked up.
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Really?!? People complain about the game and now this? Seriously? It is just a game and non-canon so just get over it. BTW-growing up I was the biggest Han Solo fan and wanted to grow up to fly the Falcon and I have no problem with this. I have played both games and the second plays much better, looks better but it is too short.
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All educated men agree that the only way to kill Chewy is to throw a moon at him. We also concur that he catches it and holds it for just a few seconds before his doom.
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So your tattoo makes you an expert on star wars? You probably think Lucas is a fucking genius, too. I'm sure you ran out after episode 1 and got the tattoo. I bet the tat is Jar Jar Binks. Me thinks your tattoos is fuckingz lamez. Also, you're stupid. Consider yourself troll'd!
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Rape: an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation despoliation applies here
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So Han Solo just sat on top of the building doing nothing while Chewie fought "Super Powerful Guy"? He had a blaster... maybe he should have like fired on the bad guy or something. Oh yeah, then "Super Powerful Guy" would have had to kill Han first, and they couldn't have had Han shoot Chewie then. Okay, got it.
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