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When was it ever not cool?
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THAT sounds like a challenge my friend. [and lord know how many challenges I will accept when I'm drunk] I've had this idea in the back of my head since I saw how shitty the first movie was, and this article fires the spark plug, so I'm just going to declare it now. Hopefully I can get a talented enough a team together to pull it off. I want somebody/anybody who's competent enough a CGI artist to make a "Realistic" G1 prime to go back through and put on top of those Bayformer Designs and it might actually be half a decent movie with the "scrap metal" designs. I am convinced that is what ruined the movie for a majority of the movie goers that didn't like it. I'd be less worried about transformations than looking like "Realistc" G1 Transformer designs as in it's actaually in front of you in real life. Kind of like that old Pirus comercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4ckJFNkra8 Kinda like this but but will look more like G1 cartoon than a real toy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM74D1mFjN0 Any one interested in actually getting this started up I'l have to figure a way of contacting me w/o getting spammed.
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You...do realize you've just criticized the plot of a Saturday Morning Cartoon, right?
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I think we're all in agreement that the Bayformers plot are stupid anyways.
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Which begs the question: why hire Weaving in the first place and not just some random guy who can read a script behind a mic really, really well? Man, Hollywood can get so weird sometimes!
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sooo...Megaman on wheels then? XD
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Amen, Master Splinter! I mean, it's not like the Transformers design cannot be modernized and still retain familiarity. "War For Cybertron" is a valid point of this: I can still tell who the hell is who despite of the altered designs. As for the plot thing, I always thought this was just as bad as "Heroes": plot build-up and thread conclusions takes a backseat to frame after frame of a man carrying a turtle in a desert. I mean, I'm all for imagery in cinema, but what the fuck, man?!
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Oh, it's you again. I'm sorry Mario, but your princess is STILL in another castle!
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BZZZZZTT! Wrong-O! You can blame the casual audience and corporate executives for that. That is, people who can't recognize Cover Girl other than "that blonde who got stabbed in that movie about multi-national army and OOOH LOOK EXPLOSIONS!", and their "Does this movie has boobs? Yes? RELEASE IT!" sidekicks. We nerds have discerning taste when it comes to our beloved mediums, as all this ire and ill-contempt can probably tell you. What you're doing is basically telling us that we have no right to get mad when someone comes in to our house, smash up every furniture we own, and left a plate of hot steaming shit in the refrigerator. That, my friend, is lame. Oh, and also, FFF is not proof that there is a God. It's proof that humanity is just not worth His grace. That's all.
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So.... the spirit this movie should have, is being lubricated on by one of the robots, flashing a wimpy man-thong as a source of supposed pride, and "I am directly beneath the enemy's scrotum"?
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No. No, you are not. And I'm not being sarcastic when I say I'd rather watch Jason Statham mug the same face he always does while breaking shit than the Buff just staring at it.
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Well they're recognizable WHEN STANDING STILL. Problem is that Bay cam shakes worse like an old man with Parkinson's on a vibrating bed during an Earthquake WHILE THE ROBOTS ARE MOVING AROUND. The "silly" G1 Designs make them easier to recognize even under Bay Situations. The Bayformer designs are far too busy and far too similar. That makes them harder to recognize. On the Dragon Ball Evolution and SF The Legend of Chun Li remarks. People complained about it... a LOT and those are far worse examples... Dragon Ball lost to Hannah Montana... I repeat, Hannah Montana beat the crap out of Dragon Ball... that's how shitty that movie was.
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Yes that is the worst... Still don't know what side is worse: TF fans who Hate on the movies claiming that G1 is better... (G1 had it's share of WTF moments) or TF fans DEFENDING the movies... I admit that I like the boxy vintage TF designs cause I can quickly ID who is who. My biggest beef with the movies is how the Robots take the back seat on THEIR own movie. That would be like watching a Superman movie in which we follow Jimmy Olsen trying to get laid.
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the only thing i havea problem is, is people goin about saying "i cant recognize any of the robots"....there has been countless games, toy, fanart, trailers and such of the new designs....if you go to google and type in any transformer in the movie...guess what, youll see an image of what he looks like. YOU KNO GOD DAMN WELL WHICH ROBOT IS WHICH STOP THE BULLSHIT. Think about it, if Optimus transformerd like he did in G1, that would not only look awful on the big screen, it couldnt physically work! Yea bay may have gone a lil over board but it is by far no where near as awful as the dragonball z movie or the street fighter movie where NO ONE EVEN RESEMBLES ANYONE FROM THE FRANCHISES! (with excpetion of vega only cause he wore the mask)
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I won't begrudge on anyone's right to hate them (because we're all entitled to our opinions), but I liked both Transformers movies. They were far from perfect, but I still enjoyed them for what they were.
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People still supporting the movie for its action sequences alone √
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Oh I do. I do. Why do you think I hired all those Sith Lords for? >:3
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til your vcr burns out or the tape wears. guard it well.
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you, sir, just won the internetz! XD
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WRONG! I still have the proof in VHS. Nuff said.
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Micheal Bay, Obviously a douche who must be stopped. so why don't we all do something about it?
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If there's anything to be said about the Transformers movies, it is this: the presence of John Turturro is one of their few redeeming qualities. Aside from the fact that he's a talented enough actor that Spike Lee was casting him in movies before studios made him include more white people, he at least seems to be having fun being in these movies. He embodies the spirit that these movies should have, which is quite an accomplishment when you see what he has to work with.
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So is hating on the people who like these movies cool now?
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Han no longer shoots first. Nuff said.
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Bumblebee pissed on people. That alone is reason enough to hate the Bayformers. Forever!
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It was better when we first saw the pics a few months ago and thought they were Stunticons (and I do like Stuntis). But I really, <i>really</i> don't want to see Bay fuck up the Wreckers. Because he will.
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Actually IDW and Dreamwave did a lot of G1 flavored shit. Unfortunately that's exactly what most of it is. SHIT. p.s. Have you actually watched those DVDs? G1 was pretty fucked. You might be having rosy tinted memories. Decepticons find new source of energy to exploit for energon. Autobots roll out to stop them. Decepticons flee vowing vengance. Somewhere along the way humans heavy-handedly teach robots valuable human life lessons. Repeat.
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Hasbro and Bay still make a metric fuckton of money √
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No, actually listening to the FANDOM whine about the movies is worse than most of the uninformed nerd rage that goes on here about them. Honestly.
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the scrap yard sounds good. Price on certain metals is super high right now.
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In most of the toys his arms transform into the cannons and his arms are usually folded up into the car doors. So I guess as long as no one's in the passenger's seat. It fits the canon. Or the canon fits the cannon, if you prefer.
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Remember that huge fuckin cube? Shrunk down and that kid could carry it? Yeah... What promise was that again?
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No. It was just a waste of the huge wad of cash the paid Weaving. There are many professional voice actors, Welker or not, who would've been cheaper and would've loved the work. Hell most of the people I know who AREN'T Transformer fans don't even know it was Weaving. So it's not like he was a big name draw for the film.
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*pout* SAAAAAMMMM!!! *pout* *pout* SAAAAAMMMM!!! *pout* SAAAAAMMMM!!! *pout* SAAAAAMMMM!!! SAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaAAMMMM!!!
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Starwars prequels. Starwars clonewars. Spider-man the musical. Ben Affleck as Daredevil. G I Joe the Movie. Blackest Night. Brightest Day. Wolverine Origins. Halle Berry as Catwoman. I Blame you. For being a nerd and spending any money on these properties and more. They were ruined. I BLAME YOU! see how lame an argument that is? oh...and FFF. That's proof there is a god, and he hates us. very much.
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AM I the only one who wants to see a mash up of this and Death Race? Hell even a movie where they put the actual Bayformers in Death Race would be an improvement! *insert sarcasm* What I want to know is if they had these weapons all along, why did not one get popped out during part one and two movies? I mean for Primes sake there was so much flying scrap metal just because of them transforming back and forth during the fight.
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I just get annoyed that when the Bayformers look or do something, suddenly all other forms of media containing Transformers changes to suit the Bayformer style. It's a shame that the original look, feel, and story of the Transformers is buried under so much rubbish... Thank god for DVDs
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and starwars and tron make complete perfect sense. no gaps. no suspension of disbelief. what. so. ever.
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Did anyone else think of 'Shoop da Whoop' after watching this trailer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFnIvRpH2C8
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Another girl? WHY?!!!!! WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE FUCKING HUMANS!!! We can see that everyday on the news! We want robots fights, we wants to see Transformers, not some teen getting a hardon over yet another girl!
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Well, her problem is, she's not an actress. She's a only a model with no previous acting experience. If she gets way too much screen time, then she's on her way to Razzie award city. I have no idea why she's in this outside of her only qualifications being "fucked Michael Bay".
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Starscream still looks like $hit √ New female lead has Mr. Potato Head Lips √ Helicopters for no reason √ One Black Guy √ Non-understandable action sequences √ Gratuitous slo-mo √ Damn, even a clip has all the Satan that is a Mike bay movie...
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Rob, speaking as your physician, I recommend that you just not report on Dark Side of the Moon. No one will think any less of you for it, and it's the best thing you can do for your blood pressure. And mine, frankly -- the less you talk about Bayformers, the easier it will be for us all to forget about them. Just close your eyes, think about Tron slow dancing with two elf maidens, and let it all just flow away.
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I'll take lapdances over fart jokes any ol' day of the week.
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But isn't it worse finding anything to rip on guys who find anything to rip on Bayformers? You're doing the very same thing you're complaining about. I'm just pointing that out... I already decided to avoid Bayformers 3 since I saw the other two... (On DVD, borrowed from a friend who paid for them...)
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The 3D just might make it beat John Turturro's butt in Transformers 2.
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Fucking Christ. You guys have to find anything to rip on Transformers do you? It's just a movie dudes. Don't like it? Fine don't watch it. That easy, lol! It's just really silly watching a bunch of adults act like a child who is having a tantrum. Ah well, it's going to keep happening no matter how hard you try to enjoy yourself there's always going to be that snake in the grass.
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*phew* For a second there, I thought the film about giant alien robots WASN'T going to heavily feature a pretty girl staring at nothing in particular.
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Well, at least someone finally found a good use for NASCAR cars.
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute
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Hiring Hugo Weaving to voice Megatron,instead of Frank Welker, then distorting the voice so much that it may as well have been some random key grip's mom,was the first of many sins by Bayformers...
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Bumblebee peeing on John Tuturro's ass in slow motion.
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I hate the Transformers Movies (because they were horrific piles of formalistic shit), but I have to say that I like the idea of partial transformations. Sure it does make you wonder where Bumble Bee was actually storing the cannon, but it still looks kind of cool (relatively speaking, of course, to the monumental pile of crap this movie will probably be). I do have to admit, though, that I am kind of looking forward to see what lame-ass, "dramatic" slow-motion sequence will be in this movie. In the first one it was the woman kneeling and screaming in the middle of the street while giant robot legs ran past here, and in the second it was looking up at someone's concerned face while a helicopter flew by overhead.
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I guess it's my own fault. I should really know who every single Transformer is and isn't and what sub-category each one is. My bad...clearly I don't visit as many TF websites as you. I'm gonna have to bone up on my TF lore. Not a problem, I am more than willing to find out what Autobot hides weapons up his ass and pops them out when in vehicle mode. I am seriously curious about this "Stealth Force" you speak of. I might have had a few of the toys. But what I will NOT do is defend those awful awful movies. I find it hard to believe that such a die-hard fan as yourself (no sarcasm intended) enjoys them. You can honestly tell me who's fighting who at the 3rd reel of RoTF?? It's a mess. I thought hard about your point btw and I see it now.... You love Transformers and will defend them in any shape or form, including the movies. So when you go see this new movie and it makes a ton of money, and a 4th one comes out and its even worse. I'll blame you.
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They didn't render decals for the ad any more than they added CG guns to them. That is actually how they appeared on the set.
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You entirely missed the point of my analogy. Think hard. Do you see it now? I go to an actual Transformers website to discuss Transformers. I read Topless Robot for all of the articles on other subjects, but every so often click over and I laugh at the 100% pure bile that is any TF movie material. To paraphrase Casablanca, the blaming of two geeks on a website doesn't amount to a hill of beans when we are discussing what large masses of people are willing to spend their money on. I think the actual reasons why RotF was rubbish are more interesting than injured howling over why slapping some guns on a car means there will be fewer robots. Which is why this is the first confirmation of Stealth Force-type action after two (now three) teasers that were full of robots. Oh wait, but those robots don't count, because they don't stand still.
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Did I count 3 separate "duh" faces by the blonde actress in the trailer? That was pretty funny. They have modern toys that do that gun pop out thing in stores now, I thought they were kind of neat. Maybe they were thrown in to sell them? The best reason I can think of to hope that the movie succeeds is that they make really awesome transformers toys now in the off season when the movie stuff goes away for a while.
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Except the guns in G1 usually had the same effect - shooting the same damn laser pellets. If you want cool, unique weaponry, look at TFA. There's shurikens, magnets, electro-stingers, rocket-powered axes, wrecking ball flails, explosive punches, tritanium swords, double longbows, flamethrowers, laser nunchaku, lightning hammers, force field shields, bleedback blades, devour-and-regurgitate powers, flaming swords, clubs and flails, web shooters, all sorts of stuff.
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Motice how they rendered a couple of the cars with Nascar decals for this ad, which ran during the Daytona 500. I wonder if they will be like that in the movie. Its good marketing, at the least.
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Ugh. He's complaining because he feels that hidden weapons popping out is just an excuse to NOT SHOW ROBOTS. Which is pretty valid, considering the 1st two movies look like a kid banging to trash can lids together whenever a robot moves. They never stand/sit still enough to even figure out who's who. Plenty of screen time to show off sponsored cars on the other hand. I agree with you tho the 1st one has a "take the good with the bad" vibe, but all that good will got tossed out the window with Rotf. I mean holy shit...Optimus Prime jumps out of a plane with a parachute. Not only is that silly, but the damn thing has an AUTOBOT logo on it! Did he make the parachute?? Does the parachute transform into something?? If giant transforming robots are supposed to be a secret why do you THROW ONE OUT OF A PLANE WITH A GIANT LOGO IN THE AIR!
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Get slagged. These Bayformers deserve each and every pico-litre of hatred poured upon them.
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I disagree based off of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfekqFrlZNc Recommended watching.
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Megan Fox wasn't in there? I swear that girl in this trailer had the same expression in the first two movies.
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I think the point is its fine to hate Bayformers. I do. But there is a difference between hating the bad things about the movies, and hating everything about the movies just because of the bad stuff. I doubt the movie will be any good, poisoned tree and all, but I am not going to complain the stealth weaponry stuff simply because of the movie its in.
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Sorry, but that chick is fugly
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This isn't transformers...this is Twisted Metal!
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+1 I think that if bayformers had a good or at least decent story nobody would´ve complained of the designs. I´m still not watching, but yeah I also think that cars + guns is something that totally would´ve happened in the G1 if it didn´t.
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that's apples and oranges. Download whatever you want, its not the point. This guy bemoans the fact the Rob hates on the Transformers movies right? I think Rob has a right to hate them, they are pretty fuckin horrible. Please tell me what jerk-off jokes, pot brownies and piles of junk farting and pissing have to do with Transformers? But honestly...go see TF3 Bark at the Moon, I'm sure it's gonna be awesome. When it makes another bazillon dollars, I'll blame you too.
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They're cool enough when they're standing still and you're looking at pictures of them. On screen, moving and running and fighting you can't tell one from another. They look like fast-moving trash heaps throwing lasers at each other.
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Its funny to see how much further away from his original promise to keep the physics of size between the robots and their disguise Bay can get. Where the fuck did that cannon come from in the yellow car??? thank christ nobody was sitting in the passenger seat....
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I don't really see why people get so pissy about the designs of the robots. There are PLENTY of reasons to dislike these movies, but imo the robots themselves look pretty cool.
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Who?
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Transformers cars with guns goes back to the Autobot Tracks in 1985, so that's nothing new. I won't go see anymore Transformers movies until such time that I can recognize the Transformers.
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Given that the title of the video states that it was shown during Nascar, it makes sense that it'd be more vehicle-centric than robot-centric.
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I like this trailer because it shows just how replaceable Megan Fox is. (Answer: very)
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It's about time the Transformers had guns. I was tired of the whole "hands turn into guns" with generic "pulse blasts." One of the cool things about Transformers were the specialized weapons i.e Starscream's null ray, Megatron's fusion cannon, Cliffjumper's glass gun, etc and Bay tossed it to the side. Personally, I can't wait to see The Wreckers.
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Ding ding
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Horny Red Guy: @Topless_Bricken MOO HOO HA HA HA HA HA HAAA!
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Might your title be a take-off on the old Ring of Terror episode, which featured (if I remember correctly) no ring and even less terror?
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That's like blaming some college kid for the existence of music piracy. (Don't forget to blame me, too.) I don't really understand why of all things the Stealth Force stuff upsets you, Rob, but I accepted long ago that we are doomed to disagree. I don't think Bay is trying to tell us there aren't robots, though, since there are more robots than frames in these trailers. Transformers sprouting guns in car mode is at least as old as Targetmasters. IDW did it in their G1 comics, before the movie. Every Transformers video game gives every vehicle mode absurd weaponry, even if they are the size of a Smartcar they somehow have a machine gun and unlimited ammo. I guess it's stupid cause it's in DOTM, not the other way around. Shrug.
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I actually like the weapons in vehicle mode, if for no other reason than it breaks up the monotony of watching a bunch of cars drive around doing nothing. The chase scenes were cool at first, but got boring quickly. Let's see some pop-out guns!
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Why wouldn't they have cannons and shit popping out of the vehicle modes? There are reasons to be dreading this movie, but that one's a stretch to be complaining about.
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Those movies are hugely successful blockbuster films. and I blame you.
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Pathetic. Rob tries even harder to hate Bayformers for the sake of hating.
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maybe we'll get to see Sam's father wearing a thong in glorious 3D!
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Every second of this movie I see just makes the pain worse. Why hasn't anybody killed this jackass yet? I mean it's not like they couldn't disguise it as an accident on set.
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hate most of this trailer but i gotta admit i love the spinning prime while shooting those machine guns and choppin decepticons in half.
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