• Jabba's Palace's ridiculous new door:
• R2-D2's rock covering (still image here)
• A bunch of TIE Fighters added for the final ROTJ battle (wait until end of video):
• Wicket blinking:
Please note not all of these changes are 100% confirmed; however, the extra TIE Fighters is an official video released by Lucasfilm, and I don't who the fuck would think to add extra rocks in front of R2 other than George Lucas. Much thanks to Ghostfighter for helping me find these. Also: AAAAAAAAA EWOK EYELIDS AAAAAA
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http://fanedit.org/517/ See the Special Edition Lucas SHOULD HAVE MADE!
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Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AAvAnI9Bwg
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I don't see any more fighters than before.
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Maybe to house his Giant Sail Barge...
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Ewoks are so innocent that even dust will not fall on their eyeballs, so they have no need for eyelids
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Lucas' changes should be flagged for review. Maybe Lucas should be flogged, too. Now, if he were to go back and release cleaned up, but otherwise unaltered theatrical versions, that would be worthy of my hard-earned dollar. It may be his work of art, but it's my beloved memory he's soiling.
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PORTAL 2 REFERENCE!!! :D :D :D
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I dont know how they never fixed the jawas selling the droids in ep 4. After R5D4 rolls away and blows up you still see him in the background during the side shot of R2 when C3PO is suggesting him to Luke as a good purchase. A BIG error in my oppinion, WTF. And is the big door on Jabba's palace and ewok eyelids really neccessary?? Why didnt they add Luke constructing his light saber in the cave back into the movie?? Fans would have appreciated that much more. Dissapointing....
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That's Blue screen. Green screen wasn't used much then except for video and until digital compositing came along.
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The only change I actually like was the digital yoda in The Phantom Menace instead of a puppet, fits in better with II and III
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Just watched Empire and in the scene where Han and Leia are arguing about him leaving and she says "I'd Rather Kiss A Wookie" and Han says "I can arrange that, he could use a good kiss" the last part "he could use a good kiss" has gone!
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Actually the palace is a monastery that Jabba is using as a palace. Those giant robot spider things inside are the monks so ask them.
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The Tie fighters are the same. As far as them just popping up, its actually a flip scene where Lando notices them before the viewer does as the camera is on him, then switches to them. Not exactly a blooper if you watch it. I don't think any of these extra's are really a big difference since the first SE. The only one Im curious about is rumored Qui Gon Jinn's ghost appearing with the others at the end of ROTJ. Which I hate how Hayden was put in considering Anakin actually died old like the others and they should have kept the original.
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actually that's the same amount of ties as before. they just digitally made them more defined.
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I heard, that the rocks were only added to the shots of R2 in the cave and not the shot of him rolling out of it, which makes it so that the rocks seemingly disappear. If this is the case, this is sloppy and inconsistent.
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I have altered the scenes of the original trilogy, pray I do not alter them further....
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OMG, who gives a flying f**k, George Lucas has made millions out of these films and he will make miilions more out of the losers that buy the blu-ray versions, and yes that includes all you f**ckers who are complaining on this site!!!
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My childhood's anus. It is bleeding.
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Don't feel bad lol, I got the reference. It was from the musical episode "Once More With Feeling", one of the best T.V. episodes I have ever seen (of any show).
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As an RABID watcher of these movies, I can not tell that there are added TIE fighters... What I can tell you is at 2:04, 8 TIE fighters pop out of nowhere at the back of the pack. Those have been there since the original release of RotJ in 1983. I swear those have been there forever, they aren't new and they haven't fixed the fact that they APPEAR OUT OF NOWHERE in ANY rendition of Star Wars. HOW can they overlook that forever? Fix stuff like that! They need to stop mutilating the good stuff!
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Ewww! With or without tongue? Ewww!!!
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I love ewoks too (*looks shiftily at the plushie pile in her bed*), but I prefer them blinking to not-blinking.
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Yup - I find non-blinking much creepier than blinking!
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I do plan to rent them and see for myself if it is tolerable. I would love them on Bluray... He ruined my expectations with his last edits.
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I hope they fixed that scene. That one pissed me off to no end...
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I remember thinking Lucas lost his mind when he made Greedo shoot first. The change was ridiculously implausible and changes Han's character completely. The added scenes of Jabba in the A New Hope also got to me. It didn't look like the Jabba from Jedi. I know the back-story was that the ROJ Jabba was sick from assassination attempts and poisoning...but come on. The beauty of the first trilogy was the absence of CG, which is only now beginning to be mastered. Maybe if he fixed those special effects I'd forgive him for altering dialogue. And there was nothing wrong with the Ewoks... Nobody had a conversation with them where they noticed they weren't blinking. They were basically just extras...in teddy bear suits.
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what the hell... I can't stop laughing at how retarded this comment is and how your story and puns have nothing to do with the conversation. For some reason this is the funniest comment on here. Lackluster Pavilion, that's rich, good sir. You deserve a pickle.
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I'm a big fan from childhood and I seriously don't care about Wicket's eyelids, Darth Vader's no no, Jabba's new door or the extra CGI tie-fighters. However, what proves Lucas has completely, utterly and undoubtedly lost the plot is this: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9888/r2newshots.jpg ... seriously why would anyone, on Earth, spend any time, money or anything whatsoever changing this shot???!!!! What does putting half a rock in front of R2 achieve?? I really don't understand why he would do that.
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Someone needs to kill George Lucas so these idiotic changes stop.
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Man the only thing that gets me is that all these changes are shoddy as hell. An After Effects designer right out of high school could do better. Just makes me sad this garbage is considered acceptable...
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"What are you, a frakking park ranger now?"
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What compels people to declare everyone else wrong about an easily-checked fact, without bothering to check it themselves first? You can see the original version on youtube <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb9BOd5J9QE">here</a>, he doesn't blink.
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I'm actually not against the extra TIE fighters. That was one of the things I expected them to address in the special editions: the effects makers talked about how they worked for seven weeks on that one shot-and then when they saw the final footage it was, like, six TIE fighters buzz the Falcon and they were underwhelmed. I don't mind them tweaking something like that (or the horrible looking explosion when the super Star Destroyer crashes into the Death Star). But having Vader say 'Noooo!' at the end of Jedi now? That is just plain awful. Like: grounds to maybe have Lucas committed for not being of sound mind anymore. If he has any kids of the backstabbing mindset: he may have just given them the key to their inheritance a little early. Take notice, young Lucases.
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To me, that Tie Fighter shot looks exactly the same as it ever has, with the exception of the matte lines having been removed... That shot looks damn good in 1080p :)
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Everyone get back to coding and stop wasting your day (and my money) on Ewok eyelids and R2-D2's rocks or whatever other BS you turds are obsessing on this week. - your boss
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Y'know.... if all the disgruntled fans REALLY wanted to mess with George, they should start a petition declaring that none of 'em will ever buy another Star Wars disk again, unless he finally releases the Holiday Special.... not neccessarily as a way to get the special released, but just to yank his chain for making everyone repurchase everything for blinking Ewoks, a bigger rock, and a "NNNNOOOOO!!!!!!" that every oldster fan could (and probably HAS) supplied themselves to the new films. Don C.
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How the hell did RD-D2 got in there? Did he use the Force?
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The video above is not from the Blu-ray. Just the SOUND is from the Blu-ray. They guy who posted it put the BD sound on the DVD video.
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The video above is NOT from the Blu-ray. The guy who posted it just used the audio from the Blu-ray (which was "leaked") and pasted it onto the most recent DVD version, so that explains your rock question. But the sound is there, and it is changed. It's not a hoax after all. I really thought it might be because of the nature of the above video, but I've confirmed it myself. They changed it.
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Greedo doesn't shoot first in the Blu-ray (and most recent DVD) versions of the Special Edition. Greedo still shoots, but Han shoots a split second earlier, and Greedo's aim is for shit. They cleaned it up a LOT the last time they went in and tweaked it.
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The next Special Special Edition will make R2D2 fly. First on mini rockets, then like the frikin' Daleks.
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It's official: I've decided not to buy these movies. I had preordered them but I'm cancelling the order. LUCAS: LEAVE THOSE POOR MOVIES ALONE!!!
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Why didn't Lucas fix the biggest problem with Ewoks: they still don't butcher their meat before cooking it!
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egads! it's lucas spaming us to buy his dreaded blurays!
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At least the scream is better than what sounded like a siren in the last version. I saw the last version as the sand people going "Oh shit, it's the fuzz!"
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Agreed. But it's a couple seconds of time in an otherwise cool movie. Deal with it.
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I think it is. The YouTube page says it's not actually from the Blu-ray.
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These look like winning entries to the TR contest Come up with the most Ridculous Additions to the new blu-rays.
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Un-fuckin'-believable.
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The video's description on youtube says that it is leaked audio synced to the dvd video.
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A Wangdoodle would eat ten of them for breakfast and think nothing of it.
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Shut your whore mouth when men are talking about Snorks.
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NOOOOOOOOOOO
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The amount of TIEs is still the same. This is from a 1986 VHS trailer, skip to 1:23. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5RBpJrnU8U&feature=related
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It is unavoidable...
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Well that makes me sad, because that scary roar sounded completely ridiculous.
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BUNNIES, BUNNIES. IT MUST BE BUNNIES. Or maybe midgets. :-)
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at last we shall reveal our blue ray versions to the jedi, at last we shall have revenge!
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Oh, no, my friend. This is a mistake, a terrible mistake. This is madness. They've gone too far. What if I told you that the Lucasfilm was now under the control of a dark lord of the Sith?
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Ewoks are very close to spiders and snakes in design, I'm sure.
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Is his name Dig Dug?
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I'd say not blinking is more in the Uncanny Valley than blinking. At this point, I'm convinced George Lucas will never stop toying with his movies. He's become <godwin>like Leni Riefenstahl, an obsessive editor</godwin>.
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That's...nice.
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I like snakes, too! :D And Jawas FTW. Seriously, anything wins over Ewoks. Including Jar-Jar Binks. *pause* *chuckles* Nope. Couldn't keep a straight face.
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How the fuck did R2 even get in there?! That change doesn't even make sense and opens up a new crop of questions! See? THIS is why I stick to fan edits, because at least most fan edits take away stupid shit like this and don't add anything more than just deleted scenes and doing the basic technical clean-up work Lucasfilm should have done in 2004. This is some needlessly comprehensive bullshit right here.
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So, apparently Sandpeople HATE Frank "yeeAAAEeeesss" Nelson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q0AAvx8ppoI'd love to see some mocking dubs. Luke should totally let out a Wilhelm scream when falling.
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Honestly, I'm thinking the Vader yelling is a hoax, a very funny elaborate hoax. If not, well, it's not a change I relish, nor enjoy. I honestly don't like the Jabba's Palace shot because it just feels too, "My first camera pan", it just doesn't look natural at all. A dug being added in RoTJ makes sense, as long as it's just subtle. The R2 shot confuses me, but it's not much of a big deal for me. Obi Wan's yell just, sounds off. The ties, meh. The Ewok blinking? Adywan's edits had more in A New Hope (A Battle Droid head is subtly added in the Sandcrawler), and nobody gave him grief over it, heck, look at what he's been working on with Yoda in the Empire Strikes Back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p44pcTXpPOsNotice the mouth and eyes, the mouth is more subtlety moving more, the eyes blink, and small eye correction.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWizFjDq2Vg&feature=relatedThis link above is two years old, he's probably tweaked it better or redone it....I'll wait until these movies are officially released before I can really make a clear opinion. I have no doubt Lucas has tweaked these movies again but I don't think he'll have touched Empire as much, mainly because that's the most "treasured" of the films. But, I guess we'll see. My question though, is did they fix that now terrible CG work when Luke, 3PO, R2, and Obi Wan go to Moss Eisley?
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Yeah, I always wanted to see a few Rebel fighters unable to pull up in time and smash into the shield.
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"It's like poetry, you know? They rhyme."
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I know this will not be popular here... but I want to know if he's done anything to the first couple of shots of the cantina scene. I've always found it odd how the aliens here grunted or spoke, but their mouths never opened or closed.
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Hopefully, Luke's horrible scream when he falls away from Vader in Empire will be absent in this version. It was in the 1997 Special Editions, and removed for the 2004 DVD.
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Yes, I'm looking at the same things you are. What I'm not sure of is that there are any extra TIEs in that one scene. Observing that they pop in out of nowhere means nothing because that's what they always did. It's a well-known blooper, even to those of you who haven't gone through the Battle of Endor frame-by-frame cause you are a Star Wars nerd of the ships-and-tech school.
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Actually I was watching RotJ the other day and I noticed the non-blinking thing. It was the first time it had ever occurred to me, but after I did I found it very creepy.
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seriously, that door was already fucking huge. making it goddamn gigundous doesn't make me like the movie any more than i already did. what a waste. and did he really think R2 wasn't quite hidden enough. how much did he spend on this bullshit?
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I see the problem. For years we've been assuming that Obiwan was using the call of a dragon to scare the sandpeople away, when in reality Lucas really just wanted them to flee the buggo old man. It makes sense if you think about it this way. And what the hell, the space battle in ROTJ is begging for additional scenes (the picture of the B-wings flying away from the exploding Star Destroyer comes to mind) and they just put in a few more TIE's, badly. Come on.
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They've also placed a Dug in Jabba's palace. Same character model as that red-jacketed one in Attack of the Clones.
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Sadly, you are very wrong! http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9888/r2newshots.jpg
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Weaker chemicals no longer suffice...?
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The leaks have been watched by many. Its typical LFL procedure to add something and forget continuity. http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9888/r2newshots.jpg
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Looks like the special edition to me... unless there is one wave added at the end. Still stupid and unnecessary. George Lucas is too rich and too bored.
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While it's entirely possible that these are hoaxes (and a quick denial by Lucasfilm would put definitive nails in that), the post from Bleeding Cool has already been partially refuted by the confirmation that digital Yoda is indeed in Ep1. So there are definitely changes more comprehensive than color correction, sound tweaking, and so forth. On the other hand, the provenance and details of the supposed changes are suspicious. So, while it's fun to make fun of them--especially because they are in no way outside the boundary of what George might be expected to do--I agree it's better not to get too seriously worked up about their reality yet.
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George Lucas is like Steve Jobs. He is God and to disagree with him is to risk your neck. Steve Jobs, however, is not an absolute fruitcake.
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Thanks. And I LIKE snakes. I do hate Ewoks, though, so it evens out. The only "cute" aliens Star Wars needs are Jawas. UTINNI!
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Not ignoring that this might backfire in a big way, if there's one thing about the original tirology that they could completely replace with CGI in my opinion is the Ewoks..
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Why are you keeping a venomous arachnid so close to your junk?
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Ewoks' eyelids Gainax?
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That was supposed to be a reference to Anya, the reformed vengeance demon from Buffy, being suspicious of rabbits. In line with Sango's humorous observation. An observation, by the way, backed up by plot in the actual movie <i>where they are fully prepared to cook and eat the humans.</i> In conclusion, science proves that Ewoks are vorpal bunnies.
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I WANT THIS CONTEST. I WANT CATHARSIS.
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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/23/actually-ilm-told-me-the-star-wars-films-on-blu-ray-havent-been-altered/ Me thinks a lot of people getting punked on these "changes"
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I cannot imagine. I literally cannot imagine. I didn't wake up this morning expecting an scene in Star Wars where a guy goes Woooooooooooooo! THe only thing I can predict is that this changes will be extremes of baffling and unnecessary.
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That dragon call seems way fake, like a dude just going "wrawrrrrrrrrr". I doubt it's real. And I didn't notice any new TIEs in that scene with the death star.
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I can't believe that Wicket has eyelids. I guess Return of the Jedi wasn't complete because Wicket didn't blink.
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actually, if I remember correctly, Vader shouting 'no' at the end is something that happened at the radio broadcast version of ROTJ
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Oh, but with his level of obsession it will take him 10,000 years to watch every single frame and paste in subliminals of Jake Lloyd kissing Jar Jar
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...Okay. You just won with that refrence.
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Obi-wan's new scream sounds like a crazy old lady that was edited with some crazy fx. Also, I say No to having Darth Vader say "No" and "Nooo!" to RotJ. The rest doesn't bother me too much.
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I swear they clicked. In one split second, Ewoks went from being cute to creepy.
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Do spiders blink? snakes? I have one in my pocket, I should ask it...
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The video with the call is the new audio synced with the old footage.
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So this will be like the 3rd time around they replaced the Krayt Dragon call, pretty obsessive considering the creature never actually appears in ANY of the films. (The skeleton in ANH doesn't count.) I'm curious why he hasn't replaced the stop motion Tauntauns in ESB, even as a child in the 80's I found those to be completely wonky looking. Seems weird to fixate on something as minor as Wicket's eyelids. Seriously, just remake the damn films already. You're never going to be 100% satisfied otherwise, George.
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