• Until I saw your picture, I didn't know that the gun was Nerf. Frankly, who cares. Sometimes cheap props detract from good shows. However, the gun didn't look cheap on TV.

• Okay, so...Bob: You question the premise of the show but can't be bothered to follow through with your concern. Then, you're dismayed by a repainted toy gun in a sci-fi show when every sci-fi show does something similar, if not identical. If this is a troll job, good job. You got me. Otherwise, you've got some serious issues with your lack of common-sense.

• Well, without going into details. I'm pretty sure I've done that too. Suffice it to say, from my personal experience, there is no goddamn light or any other BS that is associated with "what happens when/after you die". It went black and that was it. Then next thing I know I'm hearing voices (in a far off manner) shouting at me. They meant nothing to me though, major haze. Next thing I know, I'm on the receiving end of a hard slap, which broke through the haze enough for me to mutter very groggily, "F*ck off or I'll kick your a$$". Wow. I'm like Jesus and ET. I feel so hollow and worthless inside now. Lol.

• Does "Nerf" mean anything?

• INFUCKINGSANE!!!

• Sounds like someone needs a hug. I give good hugs. Often. And if I was faced with a dinosaur that wanted to eat me, and had a small child/loved one with me, you can be damned sure I'd be hugging them - for my own comfort as much as for theirs. Poor hug-starved person. C'mere. *hugs*

• *sigh* stupid Disqus

• well there is that whole bit about dying and coming back. but how hard could it be? et did it.

• So you're saying I'm like Jesus? [Looks at his hands in wonderment and then cackles madly.] I HAVE THE POWER!

• Oh thank god. You're not a lone dissenter. All the dissenters are just scared to say anything unless they're branded "uncool" by the "cool" (read: cynical with unrealistically high expectations) geeks out there. I have high expectations. Whedon is my master. Farscape was brilliant, yada yada. But at the same time, given how small - albeit vocal - a minority we geeks are, we should be grateful that quality shows are being made for us at all. In fact, I feel like my entire TV licence goes towards making Dr Who and a single season of Outcasts (which I mourn for) and I count myself grateful that it's not spent on another Eastenders look-alike. If they can make a show using tropes and make it family friendly for the non-geeks out there - which means that it might stand a chance of staying on the air for longer than 14 episodes (I miss you so much, Firefly) - then I shall watch and be grateful. Also? I'm also enjoying the show. I like the characters. I like tight family unit. I like the smart daughter and the very formal "courting" process soldier boy is going through - it's really cute! OK, so angry teenage boy is a bit annoying, but he's about the only one. In fact, I could totally do without the whole Sixer drama - the show doesn't need a villain, it just needs good old colonial storylines. I for one am going to stick it out. And hope that Fox doesn't just jump ship like it does for other shows.

• this is TR, man, since when have we let anything stop our judging? :judges:

• Really? Huh. The more you know.

• Trailers told me the Phantom Menace would be awesome! (they lied)

• $20,000,000 seems more than reasonable. Cause, the dinosaurs? Real.

• "I mean, the whole premise -- humanity flees shitty future earth for non-shitty prehistoric earth -- is so rife with paradox I've not bothered to watch an episode to see if they actually explain it." Because god forbid you actually judge an idea on its actual merits, and not just on what the trailer tells you.  After all, trailers are our friends; they would -never- lie to us!

• Not a future tech, but I always LVOE'd the "magical pills that saves lives" in "Robin Hood: Men In Tights". Cracks me up every time. XD

• "Horatio, he's got darts all over him, but his ammo is still intact." "Well, it looks like he..." -puts on glasses- "Didn't have the nerf to pull the trigger" YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

• There's enough wrecthedness in that one that I have to physically remove myself from the screen, and sit under a running cold shower while sobbing profusely. Then, I remembered that Fox would probably picked it up and make it into an actual show, because that's just how they and their shitty policies roll.  And I wept some more.

• somebody had to suffer for the rest of us. you have my sympathies.

• oh here's a "time hole" let me just zip right into it. that's how fff's are made btw. 

• It does not justify the twenty million per episode price tag, though, in this case.

• I think the hugging actually makes their meat more delicious to the dinosaurs or something. "The most important ingredient is love," and all that crap. Oh and I think "Bulletproof Dinosaurs" makes an AWESOME Metal band name. XD

• I "Liked" your comment because your rant and reasoning are just hilarious. Oh, and by the way, who died and made you the nerd authority to take away someone's nerd cred? Until you show me proper documentations, you're not taking anything from anybody, capiche?

• It's still a shitty show, though.

• Could be they couldn't get the license for Primeval and just made a bunch of shit up all by themselves. Fox Network, everybody!

• I know, right? And yet they still managed to make a more long-lasting, more compelling series run than Terra Nova. When questioned about this, all Fox studio executives could say was "More crack!!" before passing out onto the nearest passed-out whore's Triple D boobs.

• Well, more like a 20 pound budget. Two of those Nerf Guns would pretty much wipe out half a season's prop budget (and probably wind up doing double duty on Blake's 7 to boot)

• This news actually makes me like this show more. CGI dinos eating guys with spray painted Nerf weapons on prime time network television. oh, the times we live in.

• Not with a twenty million dollars budget, they didn't.

• Hey, Doctor Who got by for DECADES making monsters out of Bubble Pop Paper and off the shelf Dalek toys for Dalek armies.

• My biggest issue with this show isn't the plot, or the script, of the CG, its that they invented their own fucking dinosaurs.  Slashers? Come on.

• I remember getting and building a model of the cylon fighter back in the day...the detail molded into the skin consisted of a cannon barrel half, some bogeys from some tank kit as well as some obvious tread sections...I think i was already jaded then.

• So, uh... mysterious time holes and dinosaurs? Is anyone else reminded of Primeval?

• Yeah, but it's "high concept" shitty...meaning at least it's not Warehouse 13 or Sanctuary.

• As did a Power Rangers series.

• The Terra Nova producers used the singularity to travel back in time to 2001 to get Kay-Bee "bargains".

• It's a Brannon Braga show.  Of course it's going to be shitty.  ie the guy that brought you Star Trek Enterprise and a slew of shitty Voyager ideas.

• Assuming that you believe in the many worlds postulate, traveling back in time and altering the past does not create a paradox; instead it creates a new dimension we will call the beta dimension, where the dimension you traveled from we will call alpha dimension. Now any occurrences that take place in the beta dimension will not effect the alpha dimension; but if you are only able to travel through time if you were to travel forward from the beta dimension you would see it's effected future rather than traveling back to your own time line. The concepts behind the many worlds postulate and Schrodinger's cat have effectively made time paradox's within science fiction null, and their use is more as a plot device than scientific notion.

•  Blar. yeah, I remembered that just after posting... Still, nerf guns are pretty sweet.

• I wondered about the time travel... 'future fucked! Maybe if we send them to the time of dinosaurs, they can find some way to avoid giant meteors that killed all the dinosaurs!"

• Honestly, the hugging happens. A LOT. And while it is a family show, you'd think that the characters would have better sense than to do their family bonding while some large, carnivorous reptile is out to get them. Also, the dinosaurs are bulletproof.

• You knows that's a fairly authentic thing to do. Good long history to coin buttons.

• Yeah when I saw the future city bits I said "Fuck, get ready for lots of Lost style flashbacks, these sets look too expensive for a one off"

• Not that I want to defend the show but the earth they go to (the new time stream) was created by the act of time travelling. So in a sense they created a new Earth. It's a fairly well established  theory on how time travel would have to work to avoid paradox and causality. Anyway that's the model I think the show is working on. But hell, its got that gobshite who did all the time travel Star trek episodes on board, so I expect them to totally balls it up.

• Garo is the best show ever made it's as if someone decided to make Kamen Rider on HBO... HYPER MIDNIGHT ACTION DRAMA!

• I'd like to know where there is a Kay-Bee toys still open in the USA. And are they still overcharging to try and be competitive to FAO Schwarz, which also only has one store in NYC?

• I agree that it's a throwback, but in all the wrong ways. I watched the first two episodes.  The first was decent, though that's mainly because it was fast-paced and the future was genuinely interesting enough to make me overlook the bits that were too convenient or questionable.  I cared, and despite initially not wanting to watch it because of Braga's involvement, I was actually optimistic. The second, though.  Let's steal a shuttlecraft!  Let's put the stupid kids in danger that they should already know about!  Let's introduce an intriguing mystery and then demystify it by the end of the episode!  (No, no.  Build *up* the suspense!)  We went in with an open mind and walked out with MST3K, because it's one silly, overblown, contrived thing after another. I don't mind simple family drama.  I do mind watching a bunch of simpletons do stupid things.  It doesn't have to have a labyrinthine plot but it does need to have a brain.  It didn't feel real for a second, and I could see it would be SuperCop and WonderDoc save the day over and over again.  It felt like a Voyager or Deep Space Nine for Dummies, and you know it's bad when you're rooting for the dinosaurs to eat most of the main characters because that would be vastly more entertaining.

• In the last episode I'll ever watch, Colonel Trope mentioned communication with high command back on Earth.

• I'm pretty sure he nearly did that in one episode. He just got off one of those little rv type rides they have and started shooting at a dinosaur and acting real hardcore. Taunting it or whatnot. I was thinking "if ever there was a way to go out in a truly badass manner, taunting a seriously pissed off dinosaur while you're on foot is surely it". (Spoiler: He gets picked up right before it eats him. Then acts real nonchalant about what he just did.)

• That were showing that on Cinemax yesterday. Coincidentally enough, "For me, it was Tuesday." ; )

• Not if you get enough fiber in your diet, the lipid will keep it pliable long after the theiols turn your stomach with a bout projectile vomiting.

• And lest we forget, given that Halloween is coming up, Michael Myer's mask was actually just a William Shatner mask painted white.

• I really wanted to like this show I'm trying but it just sucks. It has the same problem Falling Skies suffered from, too much family bullshit. Oh and bad acting and looking cheap, that too. Nerf guns, wow.

•  River Song's gun that she used to slay the Silence is a repainted Nerf pistol too,soooo...

• ...I didn't think I would actually get an explanation. That actually makes it a little better, since changes it from them deciding to escape to dinosaur times for some reason to that's just where they ended up. I mean the reasoning for knowing it's a parallel universe seems a little shaky, but it's the sort of Hollywood logic I can at least go along with.

• The way it's explained is that when the rip in time was found, they sent a proble of some sort through with the intention of finding it in the future.  WHen they didn't find it, they figured out that it was a divergent timeline. Apparently their probe had reeeeeeally long battery life or some such shit.

• It's the usual rule - they fire whatever is needed by the plot at the moment the trigger is pulled.  Ditto for whether they jam or not.

• I hate to admit this, but I've seen the show and can answer your questions. [hangs head in shame] In my defense, you ghouls, I like bad tv (except for reality tv). I get drunk and have a blast watching SyFy Originals on the weekend, so a bad "scifi" show (and I put that in quotes because if that's scifi than I'm a goddamn model, and I am not) was just too much for me to easily pass up. So here goes: "Cause if they knew in advance that it was a parallel universe, then why go back to an era that they know is full giant predators?" They didn't actually know it was full of giant predators, nor that it was a parallel universe. They originally sent through a probe when they discovered this hole in time (or whatever it is they called it, I forget). The probe sent back no data, nor was it ever rediscovered. So they reasoned that they must've created a split time line (ala Back To The Future II), thus making it okay to go into this thing to save themselves from the Earth as it has become. (Yep, no idea when/where they're going, but they just went in anyway.) First person through was the Colonel. Followed by others, however due to some kind of whatnot, he made it through one sec, the others who went through literally seconds after him, showed up (according to him) about half a year later. [Shrugs. It's Fox, wtf are you looking at me like I'm crazy for? I didn't write it. Lol.] "Why not go to an era where things were closer to modern Earth?" As I said above, they discovered this thing. Had no control over where it led to or when. But Earth is beyond fucked in the future. So they pretty much said "fuck it" and just went through. Sending their brightest (and families). In a very, "let's hope for the best" attitude. Apparently, thus far, this is working out. Mostly. (We'll ignore some of the fucking ridiculous dinosaurs shown in the series thus far. And as a dinosaur nut, they are indeed ridiculous. And I've read some out there theories in my life, none of which were even remotely in the league of what whoever wrote this came up with.) "Actually, why didn't they do that anyway?" See what I wrote in response to your previous question. Please, whoever responds to this, be gentle with me. Or not, i can keep you all relatively informed, just send me some beer money. Cause no, I do not, NOR WILL I EVER, watch that show even remotely sober. And the scary thing is, despite the haze I put myself in, all that I wrote above is accurate. Yeah, I know. Scary.

• shitchiclets? why don't you leave that kind of stuff to me, brick

• Seriously. What kind of TV show doesn't contact Smith & Wesson and purchase custom made, fully functioning automatic weapons for the whole cast?! The suits behind this show really need to get their priorities straight. 

• hello, SMASHY

• But that's the great thing about the show. That future is still there and can be explored. Certainly it will be. They've given every indication that there are forces at work in that future that which take over. I predict we will see lots more of the future too.

• I just wonder if the producers of this show have to pay NERF a royalty.

• Don't forget the SW stormtroopers using repurposed British STEN guns as blasters.

• Well, shitchiclets. Guess I'll go start a finance blog.

• Except he could act in Avatar.  His acting was so bad in Terra Nova that I didn't think it was the same guy.  It seems that everything about the show when it got sent back through time also got sent through a suck filter.

• Heroes had an amazing 1st season. 'Nuff said.

• Hey! Tropes are not bad!

• When they got the memory loss episode I was done. Awful writing, awful effects, awful acting... cool Nerf guns.

• He wasn't complaining, people! He just said it was funny, and it is!

• I stand with our "lone dissenter" up there.  I like that Terra Nova is a great throw-back show.  It feels like something that could've been made a couple decades ago rather than today, and does what it sets out to do well.  Lost was a terrific show, but it's created this mentality that unless a show is a pretentious mind-screw, it's terrible.  Excuse me if I enjoy simple family drama, straight-forward characterization, and happy endings every once in a while.  It's the same reason I love Jurassic Park, Edgar Rice Burroughs novels, and Indiana Jones. I know it's in the Geek Creed to "Hate All Things, for they are inferior to Other Older Hated Things," but c'mon, guys. It's a good, solid show, and whether or not you enjoy, it certainly isn't even in the vicinity of terrible. Besides, it's a goddamned Fox show. It can use all the love it can get right now.

• Hello, BRAXY!

• You hit the nail on the head, though.  "Low-Budget".  When you've got $20,000,000 per episode to spend, I think a little more effort is required.

• I'd watch any of CSI's infinite spinoffs for that. "FREEZE, POLICE!"  *thoonk thoonk thoonk*

• You know whats really annoying? The gun there using is fucking discontinued! Its also one of the best Nerf guns to date, especially if you mod it right. At this point I am only watching this show to see Colonel Quaritch beat the fuck out of a T-Rex with his bare hands.

• Neither.  They're sonic weapons.  Although some of the guns they carry do fire bullets.  It's not exactly clear yet which ones are which.

• Ha! Their pulling a George Lucus.

• I don't think he's complaining about them painting Nerf guns, per se, I think he's complaining that they're *spending a crapload of money* to repaint Nerf guns.

• My girlfriend has been forcing me to watch Terra Nova and I simply cannot get into it.  I think only two episodes in they were already trotting out the "everyone has amnesia" plot.  C'mon, you hold that one off until season two, at the earliest.  I also hate the main character for reasons I cannot quite articulate.  At least Steven Lang is in it, even if he does just seem to be going through the motions most of the time. If they start taming and riding the dinosaurs, I don't know whether I'll be pleased or heartbroken that someone spent $20 million an episode to remake "Dino Riders".

• It doesn't help that the future they run from is way more interesting than the past they end up in. Blade Runner metropolis > Avatar training compound.

• Too bad there's little drama other than "can I court your daughter", and the action consists of Terra Nova guards staring down Mad Max rejects.  Seriously, did anyone else notice that the 6ers have become wild-men in this episode?  

• That means it's had 3 hours (including ads) to hook the audience and failed. I gave up after 3 episodes as well. For me, it was the scene where I realised the Doctor I didn't recognise was the main guy's wife. She was in the previous scene and I didn't recognise her.  The characters made no impact whatsoever so I figured it was time to call it a day.

• Like only having one dinosaur appear in the entire episode of a show about people living in dinosaur times?   

• I must've missed that part.  I remember the whole "there's no way back" bit and that they never found the probe because it was in an alternate timeline.   I figured they could just, you know, run back through the portal but that seemed like a no-no.

• Maybe they took a page from Warhammer 40,000 and will say they're bolters to help explain the large caliber that only a Nerf dart provides.

• I just filled int he blanks myself, but I assumed they sent a probe in that had a tether back to the normal time so they could collect data.

• Thankfully I only watched maybe 10 minutes of the pilot. In that 10 minutes the girl explained to the boy how it was an alternate universe. I saw no cheap CG dinos though, and I wasn't going to wait and see them either.

• That doesn't make sense, how can a show even get to a second or third season if they can't hook people early.  I'm not going to watch boring trope filled TV in the hopes that 2 years from now it will be amazing.    This show has a "The Event" feel to it, it won't get a second or third season.  Shows like Fringe, Lost, Heroes (first season people) all got you interested early on, that's why they got more then one season. 

• Can they make bullets in the future/alternatepast?  Or are these laser guns?  Sorry, but I can't watch this show because I'm sick of the assumption that dinaosaurs know humans are tasty and worth the tremendous effort to kill to eat.

• Gave up? It's only had like 3 episodes. Most shows don't hit their stride until the second or third season, let alone the 3rd episode.

• There's still no explanation of how they knew the probe didn't fall into a black hole or a volcano.  Can they communicate back through the portal

• Actually they hint (pretty much say it) that there is a way back.

• I totally agree with your statement. The ability to use a nerf gun and turn it into an awesome looking real gun good enough to put on a show is the ultimate act of nerdness. I souped up my guns as a kid all the time to make future-weapons out of them. Far from being why this show sucks, it is one more reason it's awesome.

• I might actually watch this piece of crap now if only to laugh at it. 

• Yea, what is the deeeal with that?

• Don't forget the scene where he's eating and acting at the same time.  Y'know, that scene that's in EVERY DAMN JEFF GOLDBLUM MOVIE!!  He is one of he greatest masticating actors ever.

• The show is freaking awesome. On top of that it's a premise you can do just about anything with...drama, action, sci-fi, mystery and stinking dinosaurs...

• Well, the future people of that Earth probably didn't want to exist as bad as the characters in the show did.

• I don't know.  The big plot hole for me was simply that if it was an alternate reality with no way back, as described in the pilot, the culture simply wouldn't exist.  The main characters are selected for the tenth pilgrimage to the new timeline'd Earth. Except, how would anyone know what was on the other side of the portal if they couldn't get back to tell anybody about it?  At best, the old, overpopulated earth would be sending people off into the 'great unknown'.  Which would actually lead to more interesting plots, like government conspiracy, rebellion and / or genocide to do overpopulation. It just threw me out of the show.  Maybe they solve it in future episodes somewhere.

• No wonder the dinosaurs are winning on that show.

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