Damn. Damn. FX company Amalgamated Dynamics just released this video of a concept for the Green Goblin from Sam Raimi's first Spider-Man movie from 2002, and holy shit it is awesome. Like, heart-breakingly so -- because while I didn't mind the armor that much, this would have been infinitely cooler. I don't know why Raimi chose not to use it -- maybe he couldn't figure out how Willem Dafoe would transform into this, or may Dafoe himself shot it down -- but damn. That would have been awesome. Thanks to Esahn for the tip.
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Sure, it's patterned on the Hobgoblin, who was patterned on the Green Goblin. Funny how it just all comes full circle like that.
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This reminds me of the Alex Ross Marvels version (see cover #0 of Marvels ). I always thought Dafoe's face was elastic enough in his expressions that minimal makeup would pull it off quite nicely. I am for this version big time.
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Whoa... Fishing with Jon reference... bravo. BRAVO!
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Er, no. While Gobby might be the best choice for Spidey's main villain on his first outing, this one makes him feel too "cartoony" and I just can't help imagine he might spout lines like "I'll get you, my pretty! And your little dog, too!" Giving Gobby a Dafoe face makes for another great analog: the mask WAS his real face, and Dafoe was just his disguise. A monster that is entirely human. To me, THAT is what makes Green Goblin an interesting villain.
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hard to believe we could have had that instead of the power ranger version
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Now if they could only do something about Kirsten Dunst.........
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What the hell? This looks like the Wicked Witch of the fucking West. If Green Goblin had looked like THAT onscreen, I would never have been able to stop laughing. Sometimes (in fact, often, possibly most of the time) what looks good in comics does not translate best to live-action. Just saying. This here is a case in point.
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I like drunk.
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He looks like the lovechild of Willem Dafoe and Rutger Hauer. A horrible, horrible lovechild. I love it.
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um... Goblin's always had a mask. And this would work as a really advanced mask. Plus it just plays into Gobby being insane and needing a mask. (Utimate Comics don't count for shit)
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I preferred the realism of the armor. It fit better with the rest of the tone. Rami's movies despite some of the more unreal parts had a more real world tone.
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Dude, you got a man with 4 robot arms with an AI capable of controlling him and another one who turns into living sand... You coudn't have Dafoe mutating into this alla Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde?
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God I wish! That is really the only thing that holds this movie back from being my all time favorite superhero movie. Anything other than that horrible armor mask.
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Dear Marc Webb, If you get to direct the next film after the Amazing Spider-man, and you decide to make goblin the villain, please,please,please,PLEASE make him look like this. sincerely, a spider-man fan
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I think that, like the post said, it looks good, but doesn't really make sense from a story perspective.
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Are his eyes supposed to look like orange pool balls? Because that's weirding me out. Otherwise it looks cool, and if that's an authentic detail then okay (I'm not the biggest Spider-Man fan so I don't know). But otherwise, I think more normal eyes would fit better with the rest of the face.
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Wow, that's awesome and LOOKS like the comic book. Too bad this didn't happen, but honestly, it probably got shot down for being too scary. When his mouth started moving it got really really creepy.
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Yup. A great actor in a bad costume is better than a lesser actor in mediocre armor.
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They could have had his company developing a "Mission Impossible" type mask, but show the engineers screwing around with Halloween versions.
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See, I think it would have worked just fine as a mask due to the suspension of disbelief involved in Spidey's mask. It was obvious when they would cut from the sown suit version complete with shell to the "mask". Seams on Spider-Man's web had to line up perfectly, but no one really questioned it. What's the real difference between having a make-up shot before a reaction insert and then cutting to the "rubber mask" being pulled off? I don't think people would have cared really considering how thick it looks. My only problem would have been to mix the themes of practical and techno in the suit without masking the techno underneath, but it's not perfectly clear if that's what was going to happen. That and make the hat tail longer and droopy. That said, I actually don't hate the movie version as much as everyone else, but, especially after this, I would have liked to seen a version closer to the comics and cartoons. Though, this video isn't nowhere near as big as seeing the make-up test for I Am Legend and getting depressed with what could have been.
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I had no problem with the Spidey 1 Goblin, but I really like this.
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The EYES! They look just like Gil Kane drew them. THEY PEER INTO MY SOUL!
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You should've pulled a joke and said this was the test make-up for Spock in JJ Abrams' Star Trek reboot.
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1. Awesome as it is, it looks more like it was patterned on the Hobgoblin. 2. The previews would have scared the shit out of children across the world, thereby impacting ticket sales, Burger King tie-ins, lunch boxes, t-shirts, etc. It probably would have earned them a PG-13 for "Violence, language, and a villain whose face scares children and THEN puts on a mask to make it worse." 3. The projected drain on the budget was probably the other reason. Jim Henson grads don't come cheap.
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*"sort of", not "short of"! Unless we're talking about Power Rangers: Midget morphers! Oh wait, that never existed, never mind never mind...
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I don't understand where all this Power Ranger talk comes from. The Power Rangers wore spandex, leather glovers and boots and a helmet, hardly anything similar to the Green Goblin at all. Unless we're talking about the bad American P.R. movie, which short of mixed it up with leather armor.
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I enjoyed the over acting, it put a lot more into the character. I don't usually like it when people play villains as really straight and stiff. He was supposed to be crazy and over the top, so it worked, showing hints of the goblin just under the surface.
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They used the armour because Hollywood research has shown children love Power Rangers. Power Rangers wear armour. Therefore so should The Green Goblin. Hollywood Logic 101!
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I dunno. Looks more like a Skrull than the Goblin. ... GET JOSS WHEDON ON THE PHONE! STAT!
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I would have preferred if we just weren't told where he got the Goblin face from. Is it makeup, is it a mask, does he just look like that when he's evil? It's so much scarier if we don't know.
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Meh, I thought he over acted in this role. I liked him better in Fishing with Jon
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It's a goblin wizard! Run! And my, what big ears he has. Awesome footage, but I wouldn't want to spend the time in the makeup chair to see that. For the most part, I didn't mind the armor . . . but if they would've conceptualized it out of that face, it would've been creepier.
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That shit is pretty terrifyingbut in a good way which probably why they chose not to do in fear of scaring the kids. Although in reality they should have just put green makeup on Defoe since he looks like a goblin anyway.
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No way, I'm happy to trade the makeup for armor if it means getting an awesome actor like Dafoe to be such a major villain. Although getting the best of both worlds would have been nice.
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Might have worked better maybe if he adopted the costume less from an armor perspective, and more for a "terrorizing people" one.
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I've still got my making of guide to the first Spider-Man movie, and they went through a ton of awesome Goblin designs before settling on Power Rangers Gobby. Apparently the reason was that Raimi wanted a more rubber mask looking face, exactly like the comics. The snag was that they couldn't find a way to explain why a weapons manafacturer like Oscorp would produce life-like synthetic skin, let alone in green demon face varieties. They went the safe route by having the Goblin's equipment all being Oscorp standard that Norman stole, and the mask was just something he had lying around his apartment. Because hey, Norman Osborn fucking loves creepy masks, sign of a healthy mind and everything. I really wish they went the extra mile and made a comics accurate Goblin mask. That combined with DaFoe's unsettling performance could have created a truly iconic monster of the silver screen.
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Fuck yes!
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LOL . . . I mentally read the headline, before the image of the video had loaded, like Yoda for some reason, as in "The Green Goblin, that might have been". Then the picture loaded and I realized I'm kind of an idiot. Just wanted to share that with you all.
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Oh my, that's fucking great. I really enjoyed the first Spiderman, not that much years passing by, and even when I was a fanboy I had two reluctances : - the over-long exposition of the drama, which is not fun at all when you see the movie for the sixth time. Ok, P.Parker got bitten, blah blah blah, get on with it. - A fucking robot costume for the Green Goblin ? That character terrorized my childhood, for I couldn't tell if it was a costume or real, for that villain. That and Cyclop killing his wife at his wedding : two of my genuine terrors as a child reader. So yeah, that Goblin would have been a really cool thing to see. (Sorry if I'm not clear : I'm french, and drunk.)
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Hell yeah!!! This is closer to what Steve Ditko and Stan Lee intended the Goblin to look like than that dorky-looking Power Rangers-wannabe costume that Willem DaFoe was forced to wear, ruining an otherwise effective performance. If this is genuine, then it's possible that DaFoe himself may have personally put the kibosh on it, I'll never forgive him for saying that he thought the original Green Goblin costume design looked like "a demented brownie".
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Maybe innocent, maybe sweet. Ain't half as nice, as rotting meat.
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That's perfect! That IS the Green Goblin. It looks like a Halloween mask come to life. Two questions about this video: Why the fuck didn't they go with this, and why is Bill Corbett narrating it?
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I read that William just didn't want to spend 6 hours in the make up chair every day. :( They should have just got someone else.
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Fake!!!!
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