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DC Fan: Bring back Power Girl's old costume!
DC: Why?
DC Fan: ....because I like boobs?
DC: Pervert.
DC Fan: Okay, okay... it's because her new costume sucks.
DC: Then we'll just give her a new costume.
DC Fan: No! I want the old one!
DC: Why?
DC Fan: ...because I like boobs?
DC: Pervert.
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Her old costume was classic! (biased boob loving hetero opinion) This new costume makes her look like a lesbian Kitty Foreman, 15 minutes late for her fondue party
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I don't like your snooty little attitude Mister Bricken!
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Isnt that liek the old Image comics Supreme's costume? D: FAIL go redesign that shit.
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all i have to say is this http://ssusiessays.tumblr.com/post/4328258507/power-girl-and-supergirl-by-adam-hughes
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http://www.comicvine.com/amanda-waller/29-4920/all-images/108-200346/46/105-2052718/ Never? I'd go further, but then I remember what Ed McGuinness did to her...
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Yeah... I heard that the Dark Lord COCK-Thulu was most pleased with him. He also mentioned that he loved it whenever you had to pick up things you dropped around the house.
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Okay, here's the funny part... he's not joking! How do I know? We're on the fucking internet. The real question is, how do YOU NOT know?
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Only in you own warped little mind.
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And if anyone would notice this, YOU would.
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Sometimes, it even wears a hat...
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So, PG's boob window is closed, but Catwoman can rape Batman... ... which by the way, sounds a helluva lot hotter than it's supposed to be. yeah, great priorities there, DC. Now let's talk about Harley/Starfire...
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Why is "women" capitalized? It's not a proper noun, or a proper adjective. Grammar aside, I actually like this change. So far, the main changes in the DCnU have been to sex it up in a way that says "Here you go, fanboys: Starfire naked and offering herself to every Tom, Dick, and Harry in a very unemotional way. (At what point did "emotional" become "looking like a cross between a porn star and a fuckbot"?)
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Seriously, yeah. Here's an Amanda Conner sketch I found from a quick image search: http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=578822&gsub=10781 Technically, it's still PG's boob window costume, but since the flesh-tones aren't colored in on it, you can see kinda what the suit'd look like without the window. And it looks a helluva lot better that this new design they went with.
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The idea is that Power Girl and Huntress (Helena Wayne Huntress, not Helena Bertinelli) are originally from Earth-2 but are somehow stranded on New Earth.
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Is the only remembering the Crises a recent development of the new 52? I havent read any of them, but im also unfamiliar with Power Girl in general.
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I dont understand the big reflection/portal thing behind them. I haven't read any of the New 52 stuff, at all, so I'm totally clueless. Is there some weird Earth 2 mojo going on? I thought the whole point was to stop that crap
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You know what, I can live without the boob window. If I want to, I can find naked pics of her or draw them myself. The problem I have is that the new costume... sucks. Why not use the old boob window costume... and close the boob window?
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I said that it was. I said there wasn't a good reason to be upset other than that the new one sucks. Some people seem to be upset for other reasons.
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Now Power Girl's teets can take the whooping they deserve! No more bruised breastola's! Costume is ugly but I'll take PG in any form... she's been sorely missed in the DCnU... now if DC would just bring back Cass & Steph my semi for DC would be ROCK HARD!
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How is 'that it sucks' not a good reason to be upset?
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You get the character traits from reading the book not from looking at the cover. Besides having hair-horns what is Wolverine's main character trait? Power girl is a loner who yearns not to be, Cursed to be the only hero who remembers the Crises, trapped in what to her is a poor-facsimile of her own world peopled by well meaning doppelgängers who can never be "Hers". This disconnect had made her struggle to create/maintain a human alter ego or team allegiance through the years. Despite all this she still has the powers and senses of duty and justice shared by her "cousin" Superman. Basically she's a more interesting Supergirl But I suppose because they had the affront to draw a woman with a woman's figure that counts for naught.
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So cleavage is worse when your neck is covered? She probably showed a lot less than many of the female characters in comics. The Power Girl solo series that DC had just before the new52 was fantastic. a great, funny, comic book adventure (comics can struggle to keep lighter tone books interesting at times, but not in that case.) it's the one thing I really missed after the change. A lot of people moaning here but, as a whole the new52 is wonderful. If you read it, it's mostly NOT a re-boot. It's a starting point. Very little history is erased. Geoff John's great skill is mixing new and old. satisfying continuity just enough while moving forward. That's what he's done with nearly every book he's been on and now he's doing it with the whole universe. OK, some of the new costumes I don't like (Jim Lee's a great comic book artist, but his design work is stuck in the early 90s) but there isn't a DC book I'm getting now I don't thoroughly enjoy. Even things I wrote off as a "bad idea" (like Barbara Gordon walking again) have turned out to be my favourite books.
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The average superheroine is ALWAYS dressed in one of two ways... Either in a skintight outfit spray-painted over a drop dead gorgeous body, or a skimpy outfit showing off her legs, figure, or cleavage. The Justice League Unlimited cartoon is typical in this respect... In this cartoon, for example, Huntress is in a bikini-like outfit and Hawkgirl is a gorgeous blonde in a midriff-baring outfit showing off a figure worthy of a bikini model. The comics are the same... So Powergirls' cleavage is gone? Yes, in THIS comic book series. But like the many incarnations of Batman, Superman, and the like, there will be more than one Powergirl comic book series, and in one of them, she'll still be falling out of her top.
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What's the point of making superhero comics more sensitive? No one's asking the Dallas Cowboys' cheerleaders to put on business suits and act professional. Superhero comics are male nerd escapist fantasies. I was lucky enough to date a few nerdy women that like comics and their favorites are always things like Persepolis. I like Persepolis too, but I know that when I read X-Men I want Rogue in a skintight leotard. Let me put it like Robert Jordan would. You may as well try to explain something modern science has a ton of answers for that weren't available to the Pre-Renaissance time I'm trying to predict than try to explain women.
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I don't know how to feel about this, so I'll just shout "Fuck you, DC!" at no one in particular and run back into the shadows. Fuck you, DC! *runs back into the shadows*
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It's not Power Girl in particular, she's part of the collective treatment of women in comic. And though I'd agree with you that she's not the most influential character I wouldn't go as far as saying no-one out of deep fandom knows about her. Really, it's just setting a good example of designing costumes without fanservice in mind.
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No, but it's a step forward, possibly guaranteeing writing that won't focus on the character's massive breasts.
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The P-shield just doesn't look as good as the S-shield. It just makes me think of Prime. Unlike Prime, this Power Girl isn't buff enough.
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Tastes like sparkles. Bitter, bitter, sparkles. :(
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It is really sad how often words like slut and ho are used to angrily describe women in comics... is the world really taking a more twilight flavor I wonder.
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Yah damn slutty Starfire, next thing you know people will be ok with real women being sluts or something.
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So, whoever designed this knows better than Wally Wood. Fuck him. Or her.
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You say "anally fists" like its a bad thing.
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Isn't the point of The New 52 is to show the female heroes in the least amount of clothing possible (Why, hello Starfire)? Not like I have yet to find any other point in the concept...
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So women showinh skin is bad? Since when has DC started sharia law on womens clothing? Having some.cleavage showing isnt a problem. It is bad writing and art expoiting it that hurts the character and medium. And with a horrible character like Outlaws Starfire, I think we should instead get books like Grey Palmiotti and Connor Powergirl, even with cleavqge showing. At least keep the circle but fill it in with a symbol or just more costume. Even give her a full bodysuit. Just keep the old design. Another decent costume trashed for making DC characters look new for the sake of it even if DC's whole selling point is how timeless and iconic their characters are.
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I really can't imagine power girl influencing anyone's opinion of comics. Because, seriously, who even knows who she is outside of people deep into the fandom. Peoples reactions come from the characters who've been featured in movies, or at least cartoons, because that's their first introduction and the ones they go to for more stories.
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Hey hey HEY! He's MY Dark Lord! And I worshipped the Mighty Penis before it was cool! -hipster glasses- XD
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Is it me or does this cover also imply that the Huntress was the Earth 2 Robin?
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No, but a lot of them are secretly boys!
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Tweet?
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Rogue cosplayers never use her costumes from after the 90s, I don't expect this will change much
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"Cheap Thai whores" aren't "actual people"?
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It releases heat alright... but not hers.
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Right, now we can focus on her vag
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It's a space station!
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Still, a conservative costume is no guarantee for decent writing.
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Is she a copy of Ms. Marvel or is it the other way around?
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When your super power is boobs, you don't need other character traits.
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"Every time I stop looking directly at it, I instantly forget what it looks like..." Her new costume has the same effect as The Silents from Doctor Who?
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No one is saying they're realistic on either side. The difference is that both the extremely built men and the improbably buxom women are designed to appeal to that crucial 18- to 34-year-old male demographic. Trust me, there is no "female gaze" being considered when they make Batman's biceps bigger than his head.
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You know, it's amazing that DC think they can use the Boob Window to prove their convictions that Fanboys don't know what they're talking about. Replacing her costume with a crappier one is just DC sockpuppetting their own point, where when nerds clamor over how sucky the change is, they will revert it back while going, "See? See? You fat asses don't KNOW what you really wanted! Now shut the fuck up and leave us alone!" Frankly, it's childish, immature, and on a nerd superdickery level that I won't put past DC to pull something like that.
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Would be a good excuse for this mess.
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But Penis never left... It's been here all along and like Ketchup it goes with all most everything.
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I know that after I made my post, lots of people are picturing me as this hardened, bitter battleaxe of a woman, probably with a buzz cut and hippie clothing. Little do they know that I actually look like a non-buff non-handsome Gordon Freeman.
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Couldn't have said it better. Even when Sami Basri and Judd Winick took over she Slimed down a bit (yet still) looked more buff than any other Superheroeine on the scene (except for Miss Shulkie but they are both made of pure awesome). The loss of the Boobwindow is no big deal but the ugly 90's Costume redesign is a f*cking Crime. There are tons of Fan redesigns online based on her old Costume that look better than this mess. Combine that with her slimmed down 08/15 figure, the ugly hair cut... This can only be worse if she looses her awesome Personality and the humor that she had over the last few years (they already took Terra/Atlee and Stinky). I'm gonna give this a chance (since this is just a Cover) but reading Power Girl should be fun. Come for the Chesticles, stay for her sass and ability to kick ass.
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Yeah, I guarantee you that there are plenty more males who don't fit the ideal (Wolverine is short, hairy, and gets un-uglied depending on the artist, Punisher looks like his face got used as a skateboard, even the MArvel family has its jokey fat, bald guys) then there are fat or non-pretty females. In fact, we could even extend it ot the villains - but that's another story! You seem to be arguing that it's EXACTLY THE SAME, orthatsomehow men get it worse. This is sad and silly.
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You haven't been reading many comics, have you (or, looking closely enough)? How many male superheroes are overweight, have a beer gut, or exhibit male pattern baldness? How many male superheroes are NOT rippling with muscles, or are NOT built like linebackers? Just because the males don't have their reproductive organs hanging out, doesn't mean you get to assume for a minute that comics present a realistic portrayal of the human body on EITHER side.
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More pathetic than the tit-window were the 'reasons' for its existence given by fanboys. The worst was "it's there to release heat"
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I like boobs, I know a lot of Women who love boobs, a lot of women who love their own boobs and quite happy to flaunt them as an attractive part of their body which they are rightfully proud of. Sexism is much more explicit in how a character acts and is portrayed by the writer. Not by what she is wearing. This is a sad day.....for boobs.
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Meh...that about sums up my feelings on the matter.
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i feel the same way about PENIS
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funny, rob has't worn pants since TRON. between the two of you there's one naked man and one fully clothed man.
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It's just depressing we live in a world where breasts are so profoundly sexualised that you can't have a woman with large breasts and not bring up the spectre of objectification. And now we have Powergirl with a physique indistinguishable from that of the other superheroines, which is hardly more "realistic" than her original form. But hey, it's comics. They'll bring back the classic costume just like they bring everything back after this reboot's failure becomes impossible to avoid.
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I haven't worn a shirt in years. She dresses modestly compared to me.
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Eh, just wait to the sales figures come in. Then see how fast they switch back to her old costume.
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Yeah, no. The female characters are not depicted as paragons of strength, as the men are. And the men aren't drawn like Chippendale dancers -- the dancers don't wear shirts. Compare that to the eensy-weensy costumes of many females in comics, and who exactly looks more like strippers?
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because no one at DC knows what the fuck is going on anymore. would be my guess.
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What I meant by that is that it's probably one of the most intelligent and most well constructed (unlike you're typical comic books are lame, they're for kids etc). Mainstream comic books have been objectifying women in a way so severe even Hollywood wouldn't get away with unless they were adapting a comic book.
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That Superman design would of been much better for the relaunch. The belt works much better with the yellow, plus no stupid sleeves and collar.
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Whe i could be for lady invincible. Well of course it isn't but for a modern character it seems like his costume is one of the better designs. I like how the the mask helps complete the i.
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Oh, good point. Doh!
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For the body change, she looks like an older Supergirl now. But for a body change, it is nothing compared to what the DCnU did to Amanda Waller, turning her from a...well...wall...to a generic forgettable comic book super model design.
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But.... but... you didn't quote anything! :O
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QFT
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Bingo, sister.
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Look, Power Girl, we know you're embarrassed about those good Spock and Evil Mirror Universe Spock tattoos. But this cape with the weird chevron-looking pointy thing is perhaps not the best way to do it. Huntress, you look awesome. Carry on.
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/PowerGirl1st.png Your right that's NOT a boob window
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Oh, wow, you found the one male character drawn in an exploitive fashion! Surely that makes up for the thirty bajillion women drawn in the same way! Look, just because Namor is a token dude-in-speedo doesn't make up for the fact that a reasonably-dressed woman superhero is the absolute exception, not the rule. And "reasonably dressed" for a female hero is, "skin-tight leotard that shows off everything, but doesn't show off as much as boob-window gal." Until the majority of male heroes wear banana hammocks and conveniently placed socks, it's not equal.
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This becomes a double standard, wen you consider that male superhero characters are drawn like Chippendales dancers. The Submariner practically appears in his goddamn speedos and there is not a peep of outrage.
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And that was the PENIS window my dark lord was referring to
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Thirded. And while Amanda Waller was never really sexy, she was awesome because, even though she was a short, overweight woman, she was also one of the few people that the goddamn Batman would try to avoid pissing off.
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Sad sad sad news!
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She now has a buttcrack window - that's why she's facing towards the viewer
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I wholeheartedly agree with you, but rehardless, that last sentence was oh exploitable: "DC gives <strong>handjobs</strong> with one hand and <strike>takes away</strike> <strong>anally fists</strong> with the other."
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I noticed it was a very lame "P" on her costume... but the empty space DOES form a lower case "i"... Must've been intentional, her costume looks like Supreme's...
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Seconded! XD
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Besides power girl's breast, what is her main character trait?
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During her fist appearances she had such an outfit sans the window cleavage. I don't know why they just don't go back to that.
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Uh, all do respect.. I don't think sexism is waaaayyy down on the list of why comic books are still looked down upon by other people.
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Spider-Woman will always be hotter.
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Goddamn DC should be giving us MORE boobs, not taking them away.
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Every small step toward making comic book females look less like cheap Thai whores and more like actual people is a plus in my book. There's nothing "wrong" with scantily-clad women per se, but when 99.99% of them dress like that, and when writers go HUGELY out of their way to justify it as "it's empowering that she shows off her crotch, because it proves that she's vulnerable!", that's stupid. This doesn't make up for turning Starfire into a blow-up doll, but it's at least one good step.
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Cover up the boob-window? Or just relocate it to the David Lee Roth-esque ass-window?
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BRING BACK THE CLEAVAGE WINDOW!! THIS I COMMAND!
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Liking boobs makes you a pervert? Um - on what planet? I think you'd have to be a pervert to NOT like boobs - which means - DC are PERVERTS! I KNEW it!
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Letter or email?
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I'm less pissed off about the costume chance (for the worse...) than I am about her dropping like 40 pounds. One of the things I always respected about DC was that they had 'real' sized girls like Big Barda and Power Girl. Curvy, sexy girls who rocked it.
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"You gonna boycott DC over the poor story-telling?" "Nah." "The slap-dash approach to the realigned continuity?" "Nah." "They're covered up Power Girl's tits." "WHAT?! You mean I can no longer see drawings of cleavage in some comic-books? This is an outrage!"
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I can understand why they would want to eliminate the window, but her old costume was perfect. They could've kept it and simply eliminated the window. No one looks at Shawn Johnson, when she's competing in the Olympics and thinks "slut." No one watches a women's MMA fight and think "slut." They wear sports bras and the shorts they wear make Wonder Woman's shorts seem conservative. No one watches a WWE woman's match and thinks.....um, never mind. But, Kelly Kelly and Eve Torres have exposed legs, show some cleavage, and their midsections are bare. At no time, has anything popped out. The Bella Twins wear full bodysuits and show very little cleavage. With dou though, are "sluttish." It's how a character acts, that determines that. Wanna know why Olympic gymnasts have their legs exposed? Because full tights are restrictive.
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Just to put this in a little perspective, PG is wearing a costume similar to the new Earth-2 Superman. http://wb.cdn.warnerbros.com/dcublog/files/2012/02/EARTH2_Cv1_variant_aksjhdf7696as92666662.jpg For all we know, this is what PG looked like on Earth-2, but might not be what her permanent costume will be.
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