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I didn't read through all these comments, so if no one else mentioned it, Bendis dropped a pretty strong hint in a recent USM letter column that this is the Ultimate Universe Peter Parker back to life, and not the 616 Petey.Of course, Bendis would say anything, so who knows.
I've got an idea that I'm sure no one has EVER thought about. How about a little consolidation of books (titles). Let the best writers and artists vie for one X-title or one Spidey, etc.. That would eliminate the sludge and fans will be rewarded with quality work.
Yeah... They called that "DC New 52" and it sucks.
Oh, wait... You said BEST artists and writers.
In other news, Rob Brickens, owner of the popular semi-retro website, "Topless Robot", who a few months ago put up a post about the hack Steve Job's death, hasn't even bothered to mention the passing of Commodore founder Jack Tramiel, a man whose Commodore computers were a far more important part of the website's visitors' childhood and who was far more responsible for popularizing the home computer, than over-rated Jobs ever was.
Moving on....
How dare you, Dar! ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and Fox all told me that Steve Jobs was the greatest man of the millenium, therefore he is!
You know what'd be awesome, just to have fans' heads explode? Have 616 Peter die in the miniseries and leave Miles as the sole Spidey.
Better yet, have Miles kill him. That'll make Glen Beck's head explode.
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I hope for one thing.
That this crossover happens exclusively in a limited series, ala Ultimate Six, Ultimate War, Ultimate Galactus Trilogy, Doomsday trilogy, Ultimate Fallout, etcetc and not the standard "read this issue of that, then this issue of this" crossovers you see outside of the Ultimate universe. (But recently seen in the Universe, with the single page crossover of USM and Avengers vs New Ultimates)
I like spider-man, I used to love Ultimate Spider-man but this just them grabbing at straws to re-brand the new Ultimate Spider-man since the sales have dropped every month since it's debut. Not to mention they have a new Ultimate Spider-man Cartoon that has nothing to do with Ultimate Spider-man Comic, nothing in that is canon.
I think sales are dropping because nothing is happening. So far he has had a couple fights, plenty of goofing around with Ganke, and very little progression as a character. Nothing truly amazing has happened yet, and comics these days are so small/short that we're being dragged through his origin story over the course of a year, rather than a couple issues.
That said, I do like Miles, and I'd like to see him develop as a character. I just think they need to step it up a bit and do something exciting. Maybe this will be the kickstart the book needs.
I think it'd be greatly improved if Miles were smiling/laughing while Peter had the grave look on his face. Miles is just enjoying web slinging for the first time, while Peter's concerned about who this kid really is.
This is probably the only time I'll be excited by two young men in skin tight clothes with their legs spread wide. Probably.
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You're right. I'd better be wearing loose trousers when they announce the next Batman/Wolverine crossover.
I am not touching anything Ultimate Spider-Man until the true Ultimate Spider-Man comes back. Peter was Spider-Man. It's why I read the book. I liked the way Peter interacted with his world and made decisions based on his experiences. I don't care about Miles at all. It just pisses me off even more than this huge event is going to come by and Peter won't be there to see an older version of himself. I have no problems with Miles because he is black, hispanic, blue, red, whatever. I have a problem because he is calling himself Spider-Man. I would feel the same way if someone else called themselves Power Man. There is only one character associated with that mantle. And as much as people talk about how "it could be anyone under that suit because it covers his whole body," that doesn't mean that I'm going to give a damn about new person under the suit. I've given Miles his fair shake. I've read his stuff. Bring back Peter.
The Ultimate Universe has failed it's "dead is dead" policy several times.
Bringing back Ultimate Peter would be pissing on the policy and setting it on fire with their flammable demon urine that we all know executives contain within their devil bladders.
If it makes you feel better I heard that Miles was originally going to call himself "Black Spider," but then he heard that DC might sue.
DC suing over Black Spider would be hilarious.
Hmm... I wonder if Marvel Studios could buy the film rights to Black Spider from WB/DC, so they could make a live-action movie to get a Spider-Man type of character into the Marvel Movie Universe..?
There are multiple Green Lanterns, Flashes, Hawkeyes, Visions, etc. Ultimate Peter was a good Spidey, but he died. If you're uninterested in Miles, that's fine, but it's a little silly to go around talking about the "true" version of a fictional character who was a version spun off from the original character. If Miles' book isn't great (I haven't read it), we should be encouraging them to make it better, not resurrect characters because we're more comfortable with them.
Yeah, although this is the first time (discounting Ben Reilly, Miguel O'Hara, Gerry Drew, Mack Gargan, and that one time Kraven went insane) that ANYONE has ever taken up the name Spider-Man!
Well Charles , there are actually 2 rules I follow when it comes to comics What's great about comics is that you can make your own continuity with 2 basic rules -If it's too awful or distateful, IT DIDN't HAPPEN!- If it's an unbearable status quo, make your own canon !And you know what ? It's actually fun ! You can mix the best of all worlds & be glad with that . It's fiction & entertainment ! Why bother with the comics that piss you off ?
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Exactly. And I understand... it hurts to lose a character. BUT IT HAPPENS. It sucked when Superman died. It sucked when Batman died. It sucks when ANY CHARACTER WE LOVE DIES. But it's happened, it's done, and we HAVE to finish mourning at some point. If you keep grumbling about how the old Spider-Man's the only Spider-Man, YOU ARE GOING TO BE PROGRESSIVELY MORE MISERABLE UNTIL YOU DIE HOPING THAT THE ROLE OF THE DOCTOR DIED WITH HARTNELL, okay? Move. On.
Also, Peter was the Ultimate Spidey for 10 years? That's a lot of comics! Thankfully, we can still read them if we want to read about Ultimate Petey!
If you like Ultimate Peter so much, isn't his female clone still running around? There, problem solved.
Those are all 616 examples. Peter was Spider-Man in the Ultimate Universe for over ten years. That never changed.
Shit like this is why i often hate Doctor Who fans. There is no "true" Spider-man. Spider-man, like The Doctor, or Bats is all about what whoever is taking the mantle at the moment and how they continue to carry on what that hero stands for.
The could have Peter give Miles advice on how to hate his life more... or how to have a nearly immortal aunt perpetually on the edge of death (I think Aunt May's a mutant with chronic illness powers).
Well we're one step closer to my dream of seeing 616 Captain America (Steve Rogers) meeting Ultimate Captain America (Steve Rogers), having 616 Cap tell Ultimate Cap that he isn't fit to wear the uniform and then punching his lights out.
(If you haven't guessed, I HATE ULTIMATE CAP!)
Except he isn't an asshole, except when he's horrendously miswritten. He's definitely a different character: more quick to act, more of a soldier, and a great, great deal more lonely. But in The Ultimates and its first sequel? I don't see the asshole thug that everybody else does. Yeah, he has one or two moments where he isn't NICE, but there are a whooole lot of very tender scenes that counteract those nicely. Ultimate Cap, when written well, is a pretty complex guy. And yet, all it took was one or two instances of character misinterpretation to have pretty much every 616 fan dismissing him as a thug. It kinda makes me sad, and I really hope that a writer can rescue him from this stigma someday.
I agree with everything you said, but it was more than just the 616 fans writing him off as a thug. The writers did too. Did you read his recent solo series? The writer just goes out of his way to make him a huge dick. I agree that Ultimate Cap can be nuanced and interesting, but this is no longer just fanboys raging against Ultimate Cap. Marvel itself clearly holds the same view.
I agree with this dude ^
616 Cap is cool, and if I wanted one of the two to be my buddy and/or defender of my country, it'd be him.
Ultimate Cap is an asshole and I don't like him BECAUSE he's an asshole, but because he's remarkably different from 616 and helps showcase the differences between 616 Avengers and The Ultimates.
I like Ultimate Cap because he's different from 616 Steve Rogers. I like 616 Steve Rogers better, and if one of them were real I'd prefer it to be the 616 version, but from the perspective of having two pretty similar characters in somewhat similar stories, I like there being some marked distinctions between them.
