The 10 Most Annoying Post-Apocalyptic Worlds

Posted at 5:05 AM Sep 09, 2008

By Alicia Ashby

Hey! Who here loves the apocalypse?!

Yeah, I know: exactly nobody. Creating a believable, functional world like ours in fiction is hard enough. Most attempts to write about worlds destroyed by varying forms of human stupidity are marred themselves by… well, human stupidity. Designing a world where nothing works but there’s still enough action to drive a plot along involves pulling off some serious authorial sleight-of-hand. It’s frankly amazing that any really great post-apocalyptic fiction exists at all.

Ah, but great fiction isn’t what we’re about here at Topless Robot. (That’s covered by our sister site, Robot in Petticoats.) No, we’re about the awful, the stupid, the insultingly bad, and in this case, what’s just plain annoying. Here’s a list of the most irritatingly wrong-headed post-apocalyptic settings we’re ever run across. Note that we aren’t necessarily dogging the stories here (although a lot of these stories are pretty shit). This is about their insultingly stupid status quos.

10) The Matrix
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While the original Matrix flick is a viable post-apocalyptic setting in a lot of ways, it has one super-critical flaw that makes it kind of hard to watch once you notice it. Actually, this flaw makes it hard to watch any apocalyptic story that’s stumbled into the same trap. Basically, the titular Matrix is a post-apocalyptic world where people are treated to illusions of day-to-day 20th century life while their bodies are actually atrophied blobs of flesh trapped in mechanical pods that harvest their bio-electric impulses and body heat to run vast networks of artificially intelligent machines that are hostile to the human race. The machines use humans for power plants because human resistance movements blotted out the sun to cut off their solar power (in the process making all life on earth unsustainable, but whatever).

Now, here’s the problem: humans, even inactive humans, don’t actually produce excess body heat or electricity. We’re an energy-losing system, that’s why we eventually up and die. A whole bunch of humans in pods aren’t going to generate enough power to run, well, any goddamn thing you see the machines doing in the Matrix. It’s especially dodgy that weak, out-of-shape humans are somehow powering their own life support systems, the Matrix itself, AND whatever bullshit the evil machine empire is supposed to be up to. The machines would get way more benefit out of just using whatever power sources the human resistance was, killing off the flesh-bags in the Matrix to save energy, and then settling in to making Earth an environment where humans couldn’t synthesize enough oxygen out of the environment to survive. Granted, this approach would force a massive decrease in the number of sweet-awesome kung-fu fights and power suit battles, so it probably wouldn’t fit in with the Warshowskis’s vision.

9) Wizards

Did you watch Ralph Bakshi’s 1977 cartoon flick Wizards in high school? Congratulations, you’re either a stoner or hung around with the stoners as their one hilarious non-stoned buddy. This is a film that was richly marinated in the patchouli oil of decrepit 70’s counter-culture, and boy does it show. From the insane live-action opening in which a bored female narrator reads to us from a goofy kid’s picture book about how the current world ended when it nuked itself to death, to her equally bored information about worldwide nuclear death leading to magic, elves, and fairies with rockin’ tits returning to the world, this is really the cinematic equivalent of a van with a wizard riding a unicorn in front of a rainbow painted on it.
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There are actually quite a lot of post-apocalyptic settings that build themselves around the idea of our world getting a’sploded and a new, more interesting world that just coincidentally resembles a Western or Buck Rogers or D&D rising up in its place. About the best this kind of story can aspire to is the goofy fun of a Thundarr the Barbarian, as it’s otherwise a completely stupid fictional conceit. Nuclear bombs can accomplish a lot of things, but exploding so hard that magic exists isn’t one of them.

Wizards makes especially poor use of this central idea, as the rise of magic is no real net gain or change for the world other than an increase in the overall percentage of fairies with rockin’ tits in the population. The actual “secret power” the main villain is using is a ridiculously antiquated notion, and the way his noble wizard brother kills him is so ironic that implodes into a ball of its own stupidity. I don’t actually want to reveal this big twist, because the way it appears in the film is so abrupt that it becomes stupidly hilarious.

8) Battlefield Earth
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This is a crime committed to some degree by Wizards, but not to the same absolute brain-boggling fuck-up of a way that the Battlefield Earth movie commits it. Battlefield Earth is a sort of standard “aliens invade, world ends” apocalypse of the sort that was classy when War of the Worlds did it and is usually stupid as hell elsewhere. Battlefield Earth is stupid in so many ways that are covered in excruciating detail elsewhere, but its crimes as an apocalyptic story are twofold.

The first is the Psychlos, who have managed to rule Earth for 1,000 years, using human slaves all the while, without grasping even the most basic of facts about human society. Even slave traders in the 1600s managed to rather quickly get a grasp of the basics of how Africans lived, or at least as good a grasp as was required to buy slaves off of warring tribes. In Battlefield Earth, John Travolta is sincerely confused by the idea of humans having pets, leading to the infamous and fucking idiotic scene where he proclaims dogs the true master race of Earth. (Which begs the question of whether or not dogs still exist after this apocalypse—come on, they have to, Fallout wouldn’t lie to me!)

The second is a particular event of the ending, where the human slaves (lead by Jonnie Goodboy “Git ‘R Done” Tyler) break into Fort Knox, give the Psychlos gold bars they “mined”, and then teach themselves to successfully pilot thousand-year-old F-14s in glorious victory against the Psychlo invaders. Even accepting that men from pre-literate societies could, you know, train themselves to pilot jet fighters from reading manuals written in a dead fucking language, there’s the issue of how operable thousand-year-old fighter jets, possibly with fuel rotting away at the tanks, are going to be. A scene where someone powered one up and it promptly exploded would’ve been fantastic, if admittedly a downbeat ending to the film.

7) Crisis on Infinite Earths
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Not many people consider DC Comics’ Crisis on Infinite Earths an apocalyptic story, but you really should. The story basically entailed the anti-matter devil coming and making every setting used by the comics at the time fucking explode. The made them explode so hard that all the debris and shit fused together into a wildly inconsistent new world, much of it drawn by John Byrne and George Perez, much of it obsessed with trying to be interesting despite not being able to use a lot of the fans’ favorite characters and situations.

This type of apocalypse—the “apocalypse of housecleaning”—has become an alarmingly frequent story device used by writers of ongoing serial fictions, like comics, tabletop roleplaying games, MMOs, pretty much anything where starting over may mean arbitrarily making what came before explode into an edgy new art style. The main problem with this sort of device is that once you introduce it into a setting, there’s no backsies. If all creation exploded into a different all creation once, then why not do it again? Some editors may get it into their head that, really, nothing else you can do is going to seem threatening after a multiversal death storm. Maybe they’re right. God knows the past four years of DC’s comics output has had “omg the world a’splode ‘gain” as its driving multi-title plot thread.

I’m in the camp that thinks Crisis isn’t a bad story – a silly one, sure – but even then, when it first destroyed the DC Universe, it set a horrible long-running apocalyptic juggernaut in place. It made mediocrities like Zero Hour an inevitability, and allowed bugnuts stupid shit like Superboy creating and fixing continuity errors by punching the walls of the universe to even be considered publishable. Maybe there are some places where serial fiction shouldn’t go, and maybe the retcon apocalypse is one of them. Once you start, can you ever really stop?

6) Age of Apocalypse
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Initially I was going to call out Days of Future Past for this, but a friend (rightfully) pointed out that Age of Apocalypse used pretty much the same type of apocalyptic story with essentially the same characters while telling it infinitely more poorly. After all, while someone from the future begs the X-Men of the past (or now) to avert a horrible post-apocalyptic future by preventing a given event from happening, Age of Apocalypse doesn’t even that tenuous tie to something a reader might actually give a shit about. Age of Apocalypse is quite literally an apocalypse that never happened, starring people who don’t exist and, aside from fucking up '90s X-Men continuity even more, don’t fucking matter at all.

In the case of Age of Apocalypse, time travel is used to incite the apocalypse instead of being reserved as a method for resolving it (which forces them to do bullshit with the M’Kraan crystal to get us back into the usual status quo when it’s time for this story to end). Legion goes back in time to kill Magneto but actually kills his father, Professor X. He ceases to exist and this somehow makes the entire world turn into a festering hellpit in the course of about forty years. The actual setting itself makes no fucking sense, with lots of psychodrama about mutant slave camps and eugenics and oh god the people delivering soliloquies as they punch each other. It’s all tremendously stupid and forgettable, and even more forgettable since any long-term way of affecting the core stories with this mess is going to be painfully contrived at best.

This general type of story has a certain obvious appeal, and shows up a lot in fanfic since creators rarely have the audacity to try and make someone spend money on it. What would your favorite characters do if everything around them went to shit? Who would they become, what would the new conflict be? The problem with this kind of story is that the “new” apocalyptic conflict is usually pretty unsolvable, so most authors weasel out by making the world not exist anymore rather than write themselves out of the corner they’re in. Maybe this involves time-travel or a magic foo-foo crystal or, if you’re the ending of the anime RahXephon, you get really ambitious and have the protagonist change the status quo by thinking really hard about what he’d rather have instead.

5) Kingdom Come
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Kingdom Come is not, strictly speaking, a post-apocalyptic story. Instead it’s an apocalyptic story where the apocalypse occurs at the climax, and the denouement shows us the post-apocalyptic status quo. I still feel comfortable calling it out, because Kingdom Come has the audacity to use the apocalypse as a way of wresting a happy ending out of the story’s depressing and difficult main conflicts.

Kingdom Come is one of those “what if the superheroes GOT OLD?!!” stories that Dark Knight Returns made entirely fashionable. It also adds in devious villains, amoral n00b heroes who just like the fightin’, and a bunch of weird Earth-2 references to characters nobody but Mark Waid cares about. Superman comes back after a long retirement, tries to put all the crappy heroes in a super-prison, there’s some damn subplot involving a bunch of super-villains and Batman making like a third faction of characters who just kind of hang around in splash panels, and it all builds up to this big ridiculous mass-melee involving all of the superheroes at the end. The U.N. gets annoyed with this and sends the Blackhawks out to drop a nuclear bomb on the battling heroes.

Anyway, the beauty part of all this: conveniently, the nuke wipes out all of the characters who were inclined to do problematic things. There’s a handful of survivors getting rehabilitated or whatever on Paradise Island, but basically the magic nuclear fairy just took away most of the setting’s problem—an excess of functionless superheroes. There is briefly some half-assed tension with Superman turning against the government, but there’s another deus ex machina (no, really) to avert even that much consequence. Instead, you get a happy ending where everything’s gonna be okay and we’re gonna read about Superman forever, and that’s a pretty tasteless Point B to reach by launching a nuclear bomb from Point A.

4) Waterworld
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Waterworld is another movie emblematic of a “typical” apocalypse trigger. Humans did something stupid, or wouldn’t stop doing something stupid, and now Earth is all fucked up. In a good movie, like say Wall-E, the damage feels reasonable and you see evidence of humans trying to correct the damage at the last minute. It probably doesn’t work, something terrible happens to humanity (in Wall-E’s case, they abandon Earth), and that’s roughly where your movie begins.

The problem with Waterworld is that the environmental apocalypse, despite having the fairly realistic trigger of global warming, has Earth covered by more water than actually exists on it now. In the flick (spoiler alert!) the only dry land on Earth is what was once the tip of Mount Everest, which is basically impossible. If it was possible, what would actually happen in this situation is that the entire human race would die, either of water-borne ailments or because the water level had gotten so high we couldn’t fucking breathe without assistance. Instead, the human race is surviving okay on boats and artificial islands (where the fuck do they build them?), and Kevin Costner has mutated gills and webbing for underwater travel (but not scales, that would be icky).

A post-apocalyptic story demands that the world-setting feel like a reasonable consequence of whatever triggering event took place. If your world is going to be destroyed by something very real, like global warming, then the results must at least feel realistic. If you’ve created a situation in which human society is basically impossible, then your setting needs to be rethought or you have a fucking hopelessly stupid story on your hands. I’m inclined to think Waterworld is the latter, since the entire situation was so impossible as to be completely irrelevant to the audience’s imagination.

3) Resident Evil: Extinction
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One of the most interesting apocalypse triggers spawned by modern horror fiction is the “zombie apocalypse”, typified by John Romero’s worth with Night of the Living Dead. Some event, often something left intentionally unexplained, begins turning people into zombies, who then begin biting and eating other people who also become zombies. There’s only really two possible resolutions to this situation: effective armed intervention of the sort seen in Shaun of the Dead, or the zombies multiplying more rapidly than survivors can possibly kill them off, as seen in Dawn of the Dead.

Resident Evil: Extinction begins with a pretty basic Dawn of the Dead scenario. Most of the living things on Earth are zombies, because it’s not really Resident Evil until you’re fighting a fucking zombie giraffe, and the survivors are living in underground paramilitary facilities where… well, honestly, I have no idea what the hell they’re eating, but if they’ve made it this long I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. Where Resident Evil: Extinction critically fails the zombie apocalypse scenario is by assuming that a) the surviving researchers would be totally willing to make new types of super-zombies!, and b) that “by the way there’s this chick with superpowers who can set crap on fire” is an acceptable way to avoid the logical end of a zombie apocalypse scenario, which is despair and extinction of the human race.

Not that Resident Evil: Extinction has any sort of satisfactory resolution, since hey they can always make more sequels, but even the resolutions hinted at are beyond ridiculous. The entire point of a zombie apocalypse is to point at humans being fragile and kind of hopeless creatures. It’s not a good setting for the sexy blood-on-tits action scenes that Extinction was really interested in.

2) After War Gundam X
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I’m not even going to try to explain the long-running Gundam franchise to all you general media fans out there. Its inbred, incomprehensible glory is second only to how thoroughly DC’s managed to fuck up Legion of Super-Heroes. Suffice to say it’s a bit in the vein of Final Fantasy, where you have lots of extremely similar characters, designs, and situations recurring in sequential stories that usually don’t have anything to do with what came before but also kind of do. It’s also part of Japan’s family of TV franchises that serve the same stupid action delivery function that superheroes do in the US, and tend to sell poorly over here in the US since we’ve got plenty of our own home-grown stupid shit.

After War Gundam X, as the name implies, is the series that takes place after a massive war in space has destroyed Earth. You see, all the colonists in the space colonies orbiting the planet? When it looked like they wouldn’t win, they had a fit of congenital stupid and decided to fling their artificial homes down at the Earth. At one point the story tells us that this kills 90% of the Earth’s population, and devastates the environment with a mild nuclear winter. In the show itself, you see precious little that isn’t sand-blasted desert, empty generic fields, or bombed-out towns. ]

Now, you’d think this sort of thing would set human civilization back a thousand years or so, right? Plenty of horrible starvation, total loss of infrastructure, and a definite loss of knowledge. Yet, when we pick up with what passes for the story itself fifteen years after the fact… well, everything’s mostly fine. People look pretty well-fed,, you’ve got a functioning barter system up, some decent-sized cities in the rubble, and some-fucking-how there’s enough skilled labor, energy, and resources to keep the goddamn hundreds of twenty-meter giant robots we see over the course of the series up and running. Hell, we even see unemployed pilots scraping for jobs, instead of just quietly starving to death the way intellectual specialists should in these sorts of situations. At the very least we should’ve seen people cannibalizing the damn robots’ power sources.

This is a drastically stupid thing a lot of Western post-apocalyptic stories do, too, wanting to have bombed out horrible non-industrial wastelands, but also wanting xyber-awesome dudes in power-armor and nuclear tanks and god knows what else fighting in it. It’s a terrible way to lie to the audience, by asking them to believe that the world’s been destroyed, but… hey, only the parts we weren’t going to need. It also betrays authors who’ve put not the slightest bit of thought into how their setting is going to work, too.

1) Zardoz
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The basic type of apocalyptic story the 1974 film Zardoz is telling is a familiar one, and frankly one that’s been handled much better in other stories. You have a world where there’s a class of Haves, who live exalted lives of magic and wonder (and, perhaps, boredom and misery), and then some Have-Nots who live in whatever conditions happen to be the most wretched thing the creators can imagine.

Zardoz is special because it has two classes of Have-Nots: the Brutals, who… um, fuck a lot and are cavemen or something, and Exterminators, who run around in nuclear orange diapers trying to shoot Brutals down at a rate which exceeds the rate of Brutal pregnancies. Given that Brutals appear to do nothing but fuck, this would seem like a losing proposition to me. Then again, Exterminators worship guns and abhor the penis because a flying disembodied stone head (the titular Zardoz) tells them to, so what do I know?
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The Haves in Zardoz are the Eternals, who live in Vortexes which largely resemble 60’s hippie love-in communes. Everyone sits around stoned and well-fed all day, indulging in catty psychic gossip and bullshit philosophy. Think of it as a perpetual college you can never graduate from. The Vortexes are supposedly supplied with food grown by the Exterminators, an activity we never see them engage in, and the whole status quo’s origin is vague at best. It has something to do with the Tabernacle, a magic bullshit computer, and eugenics experiments that make Sean Connery’s character the mightiest diaper-man of all.

A good apocalyptic story needs to clearly come from and go to somewhere, and even fans of Zardoz still engage in a certain amount of debate as to what the hell is going on it to this day. There’s no really good idea of where the Eternals came from, how they got there, or what any of this is supposed to mean to anyone. The ending is a triumph of… what, nature or something? Sean Connery and this no-longer-immortal Eternal chick spend the rest of their lives in a cave, having a kid and then sitting in exactly one position until their skeletons fall apart. Having just watched Zardoz, I sympathized with their plight.

Comments

HelloMyNameIsKen said:

I wasn't aware annoying was another word for gay.

ArtF said:

I'm sure when speaking of zombies you meant George Romero, not John Romero.

And thank you for burning my frontal lobe with that Sean Connery picture. I will never forgive you.

OhMars said:

The first ten minutes of Zardoz will never leave you after one viewing.

Hudson said:

Wow I have never seen Zardoz how did I miss that, and I am old too.

Gonna have to bump that one on Netflix

badNflu3nce said:

Would like to add Tank Girl to this list.

What annoyed me about the Matrix wasn't the whole humans as batteries thing, because that wasn't the Warshowskis’s original vision anyway, they wanted humans to be used for computing power as a part of the machine's neural network, but executives thought that that would be too hard for audiences to understand, so it got changed to raw energy. What annoyed me was Zion, where everyone lives in complete comfort with their own apartment and a rave hall in the bottom; I think the existence eked out by people in the Terminator flicks is a lot more realistic.

Hmm, Japan really does love post-apocalyptic settings in their anime. Usually explained in episode one with "We lost X percent of the world population, 30 years ago, after the war/disaster/whatever" and yet society has managed to pull back to normal after 30 years and has the disposable income to blow on whatever sci-fi tech the show is about. This is without a doubt inspired by the destruction of Japan during WWII, and the subsequent postwar economic miracle.

There should be another top ten list of the Best done post-apocalyptic worlds. I would heartily suggest the books The Postman and World War Z, the anime Ergo Proxy and Wolf's Rain, and the movies The Terminator, The Road Warrior, Twelve Monkeys, and Children of Men.

Gibson said:

Wizards. Thank you, sir, for reminding me what this movie was (and is about). I have it listed on my myspace page as one of the cartoons I enjoyed (no doubt because of the Rockin' Tits de Fairies), but I couldn't remember why the hell I put it on there, or what it even was. Now, if I can only remember why the hell I watched it in the first place...

Jon said:

You know, I've always believed that the robots from the Matrix were the stupidest artificial intelligences imaginable. They decide to create a system where they run off of body heat, yet have to create a vivid and realistic virtual reality in order to keep the living batteries from losing their minds, correct? And every once in a while, one of the human minds finds some sort of flaw in the programming, and realizes that the entire world is an elaborate ruse, thus causing the cyclical process of THE ONE.

They should have used cows.

Cows produce massive amounts of body heat, far more pound for pound, than humans, and the only Matrix necessary to keep the cows from going mad would be a field of highly realistic grass. Should a cow realize that the grass isn't real, it's also a fair bet that The One Cow won't be leading a crusade to free the minds of the rest of the herd. It's can't really do much of anything except keep chewing cud... hooves are not conducive to using a keyboard or firing a gun.

-Jon.

Gibson said:

Wizards. Thank you, sir, for reminding me what this movie was (and is about). I have it listed on my myspace page as one of the cartoons I enjoyed (no doubt because of the Rockin' Tits de Fairies), but I couldn't remember why the hell I put it on there, or what it even was. Now, if I can only remember why the hell I watched it in the first place...

Alex Nobles said:

It is George A. Romero... not John

Bunche said:

Thank, you, thank you, THANK YOU for explaining ZARDOZ in the most concise — and gut-bustingly hilarious — manner ever. I've been a huge fan of that colossal fucking mess since it came out and I managed to con my parents into taking me to see it (I was nine) so I could scope out some titties, and I've tried unsuccessfully to make sense out of it for others, usually summing it up as "007 smokes a shitload of hash and wakes up in a dystopian future where he's forced to dress in such a way that he'd get his ass kicked even on Christopher Street. He meets a bucnh of fucking weirdos and a lot of completely nonsensical shit happens." It's just about the most ludicrous post-apocalyptic flick ever made, and whatever you do, don't forget about the section in the land of the Eternals where all the forcibly-aged and kinda retarded ones are sent. That's where Connery manages to outdo his orange diaper and briefly rocks a dress (if I remember correctly) and an asinine outfit featuring leather schoolboy shorts that Angus Young would kill for.

Jay said:

Hating on post apocalypse? Really?

Who the fuck are the 'Warshowskis'? You mean the 'Wachowski' brothers, right?

Oh, and The Age of Apocalypse was probably one of the best arcs in X-Men lore. The only people who seem to hate the AoA are of this newer, 'watered down' school of X-Men fans.

Hey, Alicia... maybe you should try writing a top 10 where you're not shitting all over something?

Tom Selleck said:

I hope "Warshowski" is just a butchered reference to a bad Kathleen Turner movie.

And screw you, Kingdom Come is good. Also, what the fuck is a Gundam? That shit looks like it's for retarded babies.

BlueMako said:

"Hmm, Japan really does love post-apocalyptic settings in their anime"
Well, they were nuked twice...

Also, I think the Day of the Triffids belongs on the list, if only because the titular plants aren't even much of a threat (and are only a threat *at all* because most of the world's population suddenly went blind and couldn't avoid them)

aznsong50 said:

"Who the fuck are the 'Warshowskis'? You mean the 'Wachowski' brothers, right?

Oh, and The Age of Apocalypse was probably one of the best arcs in X-Men lore. The only people who seem to hate the AoA are of this newer, 'watered down' school of X-Men fans.

Hey, Alicia... maybe you should try writing a top 10 where you're not shitting all over something?"

I couldn't have said it better. I could NOT believe that you even THOUGHT to include AoA on here, much less actually putting it as highly on the list as you did, and am similarly offended that you considered putting Days of Future Past here. Can I ask what you consider to be "good" post-apocalyptic worlds?

Oh, and PLEASE proofread your articles before posting next time...Or at least hit spell-check...

GannMan said:

I second Tank Girl. I was going to suggest it until i saw someone already did

Peter said:

There's a slight problem with the analysis of waterworld. The air wouldn't be unbreathably thin at the 'top of everest' after the sea rose. The atmosphere has to go somewhere as the water rises - in this case it rises with the water. If sea level was just below top of everest, then the air density would still be pretty close to sea level density today.

Close, but not exactly, because the surface area of the planet would be slightly larger due to the slightly larger radius. For all intents and purposes though, it would be the same.

Of course, this doesn't stop Waterworld from sucking.

Joenonymous said:

Thank you for pointing out how awful Gundam X was, but you didn't go far enough. It was by far the most boring Gundam series ever (garnering the award for least viewed Gundam series in Japan until it was finally knocked off its throne in 2004.) and it had the benefit of having the best opening song of any Gundam series. It was only half an hour long, and yet it'd STILL put me to sleep in the span of an episode.

dannkato said:

GEORGE A. ROMERO. I'm sure there's a John Romero out there, but he's no George. Liked your article, though.

jonimous said:

The reason that humans were used as "batteries" (like another poster said, originally as a neural network) was because the physical matrix was another element of control. The real reason the matrix was built was to work on the final fundamental robot problem, emotions. This was seen in the original scripts and vision specifically, but can also be seen in the meeting between neo and the architect in reloaded.

The architect says "there are levels of survival that we are willing to accept" to neos question of power needs with an exterminated human race. An answer that made no sense, until you realized that power was not the reason the matrix was built. This is why Neo was the aberration that was ultimately needed, as his experience with the most powerful emotion, love, was (from the same scene) "experienced in a much more specific way" than it was by his predecessors.

That specific sacrificial experience by an aberrant "one", coupled with the non-physical presence of neo afterwards (his physical body dies, but his consciousness becomes part of the matrix) was the catalyst needed for a man/machine truce and a true ambassador and teacher.

boy said:

What did anyone think of "Big-O" from Japan?? Second season was paid for by Cartoon Network

dab said:

Regardless of whatever the original purpose of humans in The Matrix were supposed to be, their use as batteries is still legitimate. I remember Morpheus saying "combined with the process of fusion..." before going on about humans as batteries. If the machines had the ability to harness fusion power, they would have some need to store that energy. One possible method could have been humans, though from an a thermodynamic perspective it would have been quite inefficient. They could have possibly utilized that body heat by operating Stirling engines, considering the surface of Earth would be very cold and would be a sufficient temperature gradient.

An advantage of humans as batteries is that humans could be reproduced easily, and the machines probably had a bunch of humans to use as crappy batteries originally, so why build something new when what you have works? If they were already using human minds as neural networks, this would have been an added benefit that Morpheus might have overemphasized.

m4df1r3fly said:

You know those are Harriers in Battlefield Earth. Please don't mistake something as kick-ass as F-14's for some VTOL trash that has a horrible service record for killing it's pilots. Besides that, solid idea of "retarded futures."

drr said:

@das,

Oh, so its combined with a form of *fusion*, so it must work? Thats the sci-fi equivalent of "a wizard did it". Humans can never be a source of energy, EVEN IF you managed to harness 100 percent of the heat generated. Unlike plants, we can't generate any form of energy for ourselves, so we need to consume it from an outside source, otherwise known as eating. Unless there's a bizzare surplus of hamburgers in the Matrix, its a losing proposition.

Free Playstation 3 said:

Great article. I agree on the Waterworld and the Matrix comments.

Mr.Dandy said:

Ah, Zardoz, you had to go there... I'd agree that it would be one of the worst futures to live in. The story is definitely confusing, but I wouldn't say it's hopelessly so, especially not compared to other sci-fi of its time. The end sequence in the cave was a metaphor for them living out their lives the "natural" way, Consuela having given up her immortality, and Zed hanging up his gun, literally on the cave wall. The precise origin of the Immortals and the Vortex aren't explained fully by design, that was the point of the entire movie. The people who became the immortals (a scientist and a cult of rich spoiled kids) created a utopian nightmare that nobody could escape from, even by dying, since the tabernacle would just rebuild them. In a sense, it's the reverse of Logan's Run, where utopia was meant to be achieved through premature death.

Sure, it's bizarre, pretentious, and confusing, but it's also kind of thought provoking and lots of weird stuff to laugh at along the way. And Zed was just way badass.

nowayjose said:

jonimous just blew my mind

intelligent design my ass. no matter how intelligent you are you still end up toying with something you dont understand just to understand it.

science owns

treddy said:

Lets not even get started on where all the cigarettes the Smokers consume come from in Waterworld.

treddy said:

Lets not even get started on where all the cigarettes the Smokers consume come from in Waterworld.

Computer Nerd said:

Here is my take on the Matrix.

1) The Oracle says what it wants to get the rebels to accomplish it's goals. Not the truth, but things calculated to have a certain effect. This means that most of what the rebels tell Neo could easy be a repeated lie that the Oracle told them. Take every statement with careful consideration of this possibly.

2) The Architect is in the same position. Except possibly even more adversarial. Figure just about 99% of the things hey says are lies designed to manipulate Neo. It's threats of mass death and destruction to Neo are very likely total fabrications.

3) If you are familiar with computers and the silly decisions people tend to make you should realize that there is a a simple explanation for why the machines keep humans around and try to hurt as few as possible. Once again humans /did it to themselves/. The machines are following some list of goals that humans gave them, according to the ranking that humans assigned to these goals, but with machine logic to twist the results. If you tell an AI that keeping you alive and happy is more important than telling you the truth, expect it to begin lying to you constantly.

ama said:

Like the this post very much

Jeff said:

[i]What annoyed me about the Matrix wasn't the whole humans as batteries thing, because that wasn't the Warshowskis’s original vision anyway [/i]
Except it wasn't their vision. They stole the script for the first movie from someone else. They wrote the second two which is why they were so different from the first one. Also, they were sued by the guy and settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.

[i] Oh, and The Age of Apocalypse was probably one of the best arcs in X-Men lore. The only people who seem to hate the AoA are of this newer, 'watered down' school of X-Men fans [/i]

Actually I hated that arc. I'd hardly consider myself a newer 'watered down' school of X-Men fans. My preferred arc was the mutant massacre in the 80s.

Shaftoe said:

Wizards...Hah yeah I was a stoner and Yeah that is why I enjoyed it. But I distinctly remember going with a buddy to see wizards at the theater and we saw for the first time the trailer for Star Wars coming out the following summer.
I was all Hey that looks really cool. He was all no way man that looks stupid. What a twit

landon murray said:

it's not John Romero who created The Dead franchise.. it's George Romero. get your facts straight noob.

gsc42 said:

Actually in the official continuation of the Matrix story (The Brothers handed off the story to Paul Chadwick in the Matrix Online, that subject was brought up and it was stated that there's another power source but it's never been cleared up). But yeah, I pretty much agree with all the others.

erichansa said:

My eyes...my eyes...can't get the image of 007 in a red diaper out of my mind!

i<3 wizards said:

how can you knock wizards? "rockin tits" are rockin no matter what. good thing you didnt add She or Barbarella, or i'd go there and kick your ass myself.

PS.

Add the Postman or Desertworld or whatever the hell that Kevin Costner movie was and make Battlefield Earth number 1...that movie sucked mighty balls. and you shouldnt count comic books...they should be exempt

gumbyfist said:

Wow, I can't believe you put Crisis on Infinite Earths and Kingdom Come on your list. You're a retard. Why don't you put a few more critically acclaimed works of art on your b-movie list? It's funny that you're a (supposed) writer and you can't appriciate either of those comic series. It looks to me that you're either a comic fan with extremely bad taste, or you're just a dumbass that wants to bash comics. I noticed that you didn't include any novels in your list; is that because they are too hard for you to read and understand?

candy blackmail said:

"It's funny that you're a (supposed) writer and you can't appriciate either of those comic series."

It's funny that you're responding with a criticism of writing and you can't spell the word "appreciate"...epic fail. :)

Aside from a few incorrect references, this was a pretty good list. However, I would've included "Western World" and "Cherry 2000" - both massive stinkers.

john said:

the people in the matrix weren't really being used for heat, that is just what the guys on the outside thought. If you watched the cartoon that came out at the time, you see it was really about how the robots were programmed from the beginning not to kill humans and so they had put them in this state after they won the war that the humans waged against them.

FLU-BIRD said:

WATERWORLD must have been one of the biggist most expensive bombs ever made i mean KEVIN KOSNER swimming around looking like a complete dork and SEAN CONNERY wearing what looks like a diapar just what were the directors of these two turkeys smoking when they made them?

Thedick said:

If I recall correctly, in the matrix world, the sunlight was blocked due to the nukes. As in nuclear winter, but an everlasting one.

Also, in battlefield earth, the cavemen were flying Harrier jump jets, not F-14s.

While its true that these worlds are stupid (the 3 I read about certainly were), if youre gonna write an article pointing out other peoples stupid misstakes, it helps to not make so many yourself.

At least if you want people to read more than 3 outta 10.

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