We all know Luke Skywalker as the main protagonist throughout the original Star Wars movies and onward into the novels of questionable quality. We all grew up wanting to be him--learning to use the Force, blowing up the Death Star, saving the galaxy. But the thing is, despite all his badass moments, he actually kind of sucks. Perhaps not as much as his father Anakin, but that could be due to Mark Hamill's acting ability, in that he can act. Sure with the emotional music and all the screen time Luke Skywalker seems to be the hero, but really he's an idiot who makes bad decisions and has a series of terrible ideas, and he's lucky it all kind of works out for him, his friends, and the Rebel Alliance in the end.
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5) Trusting the Force to Help Him Blow Up the Death Star
I have never really figured out what was so special about Luke using the Force in attacking the first Death Star. As far as I could tell, it did nothing but give Darth Vader a slightly higher level of difficulty in blasting his X-Wing, which he seemed to aptly overcome as he blew up R2-D2, and proceeded to almost blow the crap out of Luke's X-Wing had Han Solo not saved his ass with the Millennium Falcon. Some might say his use of the Force involved him turning off his targeting computer and trusting himself to shoot the exhaust port. If that's using the Force then I am using the Force every time I turn off my cruise control in my car. I mean, they make targeting systems for a reason, Luke--and chances are, the Rebel's would prefer to trust your X-Wing's highly sophisticated on-board computer than a mystical power you spent a few hours learning yesterday afternoon.
4) Refusing to Listen to the Only Living Jedi in the Galaxy
Luke gets a vision of his dead mentor Obi-Wan telling him to go to Dagobah to get training from the Jedi Master, Yoda. Luke obeys, goes out to Dagobah, finds Yoda, and then proceeds to ignore him at every important turn. Yoda tells him not to go into the scary cave with weapons, Luke doesn't listen. Yoda gives him a lesson about overcoming great obstacles, and Luke doesn't take it to heart, can't lift his own X-Wing and gets all pissy. Yoda and the Ghost of Obi-Wan both tell him not to go running off to Bespin to save his friends as he's going to endanger everything they fought for. Luke doesn't listen, goes off to Bespin, helps nobody and gets his damn hand chopped off.
Well done, Luke. Why should "Obi-Wan coming back as a ghost to give important instructions" convey any significance to you? Why should you pay attention to the one muppet left in the galaxy who knows how to use the Force? You're just a jerk who nearly turned into a Hoth-sicle--you surely know better than both of 'em!
3) His Insanely Stupid Plan To Rescue Han Solo from Jabba The Hutt
Let us imagine that Luke Skywalker is trying to tell you his plan to rescue Han Solo from Jabba the Hutt.
Luke: "Okay so, first we get Lando Calrissian posing as a guard inside Jabba's Palace."
You: "How do we do that?"
Luke: "We just get him a costume and he--just walks in."
You: "Um, okay, say it's that easy. So then Lando gets Han out of the carbonite and we pick them up and get away?"
Luke: "No. What happens next is that I put my lightsaber in a hidden compartment in R2-D2 and send R2-D2 and C3PO to Jabba the Hutt as gifts."
You: "Wait, why-"
Luke: "Just listen. Next we have Leia pose as a bounty hunter arriving at Jabba's palace with Chewbacca captured. She's going to hand over Chewbacca to Jabba."
You: "Wait, why? Wouldn't that mean we would now have to rescue Han Solo, Chewbacca, R2-D2 and C3PO? That just makes it more difficult, right?"
Luke: "Just go with me here. Next, Leia is going to sneak around at night and get Han Solo out of the carbonite, but get captured."
You: "What? Why would we get everyone captured like that?"
Luke: "Now I'll show up, use my Force powers to get in to Jabba's fortress, get past the guards to an audience before Jabba and then use my Jedi mind trick to get Jabba to release everyone. If that doesn't work, then I'll get captured."
You: "Okay, if you can just use your Force powers to get in to the palace and all the way to Jabba, then let's just have you go in right now and get Han out."
Luke: "No, that's stupid. I'm going to get myself captured. Because then you see, we'll be taken to the sarlacc pit and then, when we're on the skiff, I'll get sent out first and then R2-D2 will manage to get to the top of Jabba's sail barge and shoot out my lightsaber, and then with Lando's help, we'll just--rescue everyone and then everything will be fine!"
You: "That is the stupidest plan I've ever heard of."
Luke:"I've thought of everything."
You: "Clearly you didn't."
2) Throwing Away His Lightsaber in Front of the Emperor
So Luke decides not to put his lightsaber through Darth Vader's head once he realizes that he's going along the same dark path as his father. So what does he do next? He tosses away his lightsaber and then proclaims to the Emperor that he is a Jedi. Thus, he has no way to defend himself when the Emperor blasts him with lightning and if it wasn't for his Father saving his butt (please note how many times Luke gets saved by someone else) he would have been a charred piece of Tatooine bacon. Okay, yes, tossing away the lightsaber makes a definitive statement of renouncing Father-killing, but what did he think would happen other than the Emperor kicking his ass? Did Luke think that perhaps he would proclaim "I am a Jedi, like my father before me," and the Emperor would suddenly shout "No! You are the purest good! I am nothing in the presence of your light!" and then fling himself backward into the chasm? Why didn't Luke just try to give the Emperor a big hug and kisses and call him a 'snookle bear.' He's a master of the Dark Side, so of course he's going to kick your ass. Luke was warned not to underestimate the Emperor...so of course, he does exactly that.
1) Not Joining the Dark Side
No, seriously! Luke gets dumped on his whole life--his adoptive parents get killed, all his friends get injured or killed, the girl he falls in love with turns out to be his sister, his father turns out to be one of the most evil people in the galaxy, his hand gets cut off. Then he gets a chance to co-rule the galaxy. Who wouldn't take that offer at that point?
What has Luke had to look forward to after the original trilogy? Mostly trying to start up the whole Jedi Order by himself, which is a ton of work, and watching Han have almost constant sex with Leia. Between that and ruling with Vader, it's not unlike a choice between working in your local library and becoming President. Not really much of a choice there. And ou can comment all you want about the Dark Side being a path to pain and suffering and a loss of humanity, but let's face it--the Dark Side is simply cooler. Members of the Sith have neat custom lightsabers, get to slap everyone around, and just plain look cooler. For Halloween, how many Luke costumes do you see people wearing nowadays? Zero. How many Darth Vader costumes do you see? Still too many to count. Bad is good, baby.
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You fucktard. Yoda was never a coward. You muppet, he only fleed when he realised that Palpatine was too powerful and when he realised that reinforcements would soon arrive to fight Yoda. He realised that he had failed, he was never a coward. NEVER INSULT MASTER YODA IN FRONT OF ME.
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*rats
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Plus the fact he used to bulls-eye womp rates in his T-16 back home, and they're not much bigger than two meters.
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Wait, what? Whiny bitches like Star Wars because it features a whiny bitch? Ok man -- keep it real. Shine on you crazy dork.
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You seem to be oblivious to a couple crucial points. To wit: 1. all these supposedly bone-headed moves worked out for the best in the end 2. Star Wars would be infinitely more boring if Luke 'played it safe' or 'made the conventional decision'. What a cretinous article.
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Yeah, Luke Skywalker is a whiney little bitch. Probably why so many people are into Star Wars.
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Hm....apparently, you misinterpreted the films entirely. He didn't fall in love with Leia, he casted off his lightsaber to avoid further temptation, having a bad childhood does not necessarily lead to turning to the Dark Side--that's a very illogical and hasty generalization, just because there are lots of Darth Vader costumes does not infer that most people like the Dark Side of the Force, Luke made the attempt to save Han when he was still learning the ropes--do you honestly expect perfection from a trainee?, he refused to listen to Yoda because he was young and naive (DUH! This factor is also clearly apparent in Anakin's case), and last but not least, Luke trusted the Force because that is the only thing a Jedi must be dependent upon. A Jedi's power, peace, and strength flows directly from the Force; they do not only use it for telekinesis. It is literally like the "god" of Star Wars. It guides every human being, especially Jedi. You're proof of the fact that just because there someone can rant, it does not mean that they know what they are speaking about. Oftentimes, ranters are stuck in their "blissful" ignorance. ^.^
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he's cute he can get away whith it
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Luke Skywalker is not a complete idiot ... I totally disagree. 5) Trusting the Force to Help Him Blow Up the Death Star - Yeah , to stop trusting machines and believe in himself. 4) Refusing to Listen to the Only Living Jedi in the Galaxy - He's just a kid... And he just wanted to leave so he could save his friends. 3) His Insanely Stupid Plan To Rescue Han Solo from Jabba The Hutt - It's a sf movie , rescue plans are made to be insane. And he did it cause he believed in himself. 2) Throwing Away His Lightsaber in Front of the Emperor - This is one of the most awesome scenes , He TRUSTED Darth Vader to be Anakin Skywalker , his father! that's why he did . 1) Not Joining the Dark Side - This is absolutely ... wtf? It's the point of the whole movie . Luke's convincing over Anakin's. :| Not to make the same mistake. Seriously guys, I respect everyone's opinions , but if you are not SCIFI fans and you miss to see the point, don't go here and there judging , it doesn't work that way.
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Ok i got it now!
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Funniest thing: I came to this page since it had a nice picture of luke due to the fact i am going to a halloween party with the tatooine outfit - maybe i am the only one, but doesnt that kind of create a hole in your nr 1 spot?
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Rob, not to be mean here but your article says a lot about your character dude. ;)
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1. Haha, that's true. As ineffective as the targeting computer may be (the other did miss), Luke's force training was hardly anywhere near sufficient to help him here. Yes, he got lucky, and Han saved his ass. 2. That's right on both accounts. Luke's an ass for not listening to Yoda, and he did not help the situation at all in Bespin. 3. Ah... well, the point you're driving at is funny, but that part got a little too long winded. For the most part, it seemed that all the big players in the rebels had their own personal plans on how to save Han. So much for teamwork. 4.
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Actually, the real hero is Wedge. Before Luke even gets to the trench run he is being hounded by TIE's, and his best buddy Biggs is nowhere in sight. Who then comes roaring in to save the day, ending with a spectacular zip through a quickly vaporizing cloud of TIE fighter debris? Wedge Antilles! The only non-central (Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie, R2, 3PO, Lando), non-Jedi (Obi-Wan, Yoda) to survive all three films. He even manages to work his up from a barely named pilot in Ep. IV to becoming the leader of Rogue Squadron by Ep. VI. That makes him, as far as Rebel pilots go, the King of the Bad-Asses! ~
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This might be a shock to you but this whole list...it was a joke. Wanker indeed.
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well said everone. you people should all team up and make movies, as you are all very entertaining. i only wish there was more to read
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all of u sorry its not real
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#5: Its a lesson about trusting in one's self over machinery. #4: Yeah gotta give you that one. But I think its a mistake everyone would make. #3: He designed a plan on the basis that things wouldn't go well. If they take a one off, frontal assault/infilitration into the Palace and Jabba's expecting them... how is that better? #2: This is loosely based on samurai films, in those how often does the hero live and not die in the name of principle? #1: I completely agree.
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As a hard core Star Wars fan this article made me laugh like crazy, especially #3. It did get me thinking though, what was the plan to rescue Han originally? How was that supposed to go down? I see it happening something like this: Leia: Lando will go in and get a job with Jabba and feed us information. I'll bring Chewie in as a prisoner while disguised as a bounty hunter. At night I'll sneak around and free Han and Chewie with Lando's help and then we'll all get the hell out. Luke: Ok, WHEN that fails how about this... I'll send 3PO and R2 in with my light saber hidden in R2 before all this goes down. I'll say they're a gift or something. After you're captured, and you will be, I'll come for a visit asking for Han's release. I have nothing to offer so I'll just hope he's feeling generous. He'll either hand Han over, along with you since you've been captured (gives Leia condescending look) or he'll say no and ask me to leave. If no I'll have to do this the hard way. R2 will have to find a way to stay close to me. If I'm captured I can only hope he doesn't just shoot me in my cell, along with the rest of us. If he does let you and Han go I'll try and make a case for getting Chewie and the droids too but we might have to leave them. Leia: Why are you such a jerk? Luke: Cause I'm a Jedi and you need me.
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I agree totally with Johnson's Johnson; it's just a movie\book! I mean, you try to make such a creative little thing! Luke skywalker and Darth Vader are the real heroes, done and done!
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This might be a shock to you. It is.... fiction. It wasn't real. It was written by some weird little bearded guy (no longer little of course). It was just a swashbuckling piece of entertainment. I'd like to see you write a story that captures the imagination of so many people and make a squidillion dollars. Funny post though except the pro evil thing, you wanker.
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I agree with you but...trusting the force to blow up the death star!? That's insane! I like R2-D2 and Chewbacca better than him. Star wars is about Vader and Luke's life (that is a quote for NicNac). I read that George Lucas himself said that. I think Luke is average brave\noble\jedi and a total I-D-I-O-T.
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I think you are wrong. I am in LOVE with Luke Skywalker. Yes...he is a little bit of an idiot, but give him a BREAK! What would you have done?! Yes he didn't listen to yoda and obi-wan kenobi but he didn't give himself to the dark side because to a true jedi never gives in: to him, it was either get his father to kill the emporer and restore his father's goodness inside of him, or die. He was noble and brave. Again, what would you have done?!
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This is hilarious. You pointed out some things I never noticed before. Personally I think Luke created the worst rescue plan in the galaxy to see Leia in a metal bikini. :P I have always thought that the real hero in the films is R2-D2. Sure he gets in a lot of trouble, but he always gets himself out and gets everyone else out as well. He is definitely the most under appreciated character. I can't count how many times he saved his human charges. And he gets the entire ball rolling when he goes out to look for Obi Wan himself. Since he was around for all it, it's tragic he can't talk. Could have saved a lot of trouble.
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You have spent way too much time thinking about this.
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OHSHI- This article just made me cracked up. How everything here is getting heated up. And having said that, this doesn't mean that I think Luke is a total idiot. But c'mon. Who cares what the author wrote here anyway? Obviously this had been written down for entertainment. There's just no valid justification. Plus, it's a funny article. Just laugh, kiddies.
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Nice read also a WALL of comments!
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Re: Targeting computer. We have a targeting computer that, on a starfighter traveling in a straight line, can't hit a target that is stationary, and actually quite close by. And they use the thing in dogfights...??? The starfighter is maneuvering violently. The target is maneuvering violently. The distances are much greater. The size of the target isn't much greater than the small hole. Given the inaccuracy of the targeting computer, the pilots would be better off turning the damn thing off and firing with their eyes closed...
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I must have read this article 3 times now, and it's funnier every time I read it. What's funniest, however, are the comments that Star Wars fans post in rebuttal. Hilarious. I thought I was a nerd (and rightly so), but there are far, far nerdier out there. Unbelievable.
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The only one I can really disagree with is the first. Luke turned off his targeting computer and listened to the Force instead because of timing. Through the Force he ends up with a better sense of the best time to fire at the exhaust port. As seen with the first person to take a shot, using the targeting computer got him close, but either through the computer being slightly off or the delay between the 0 count and pulling the trigger, the shot only hits the outside of the port. So, with the Force, Luke is supposedly able to better judge when to fire. Though, about being able to dodge Vader better. Vader, also having the Force should have been able to adjust. Though, if I remember correctly, I thought Vader fires at Luke just before Han gets there, meaning Vader probably would have killed Luke. Aside from that, you pretty much nailed it.
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Star Wars is not about Luke. Luke does not bring balance to the force. Star Wars is about Vader. In the end, we realize that Vader brings balance to the force. Luke is just the son of Vader around whom the story of episodes 4-6 can be told.
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I as a SciFi/Fantasy Nerd,I love StarWars And this list was a riot. Suck it up Nerd Nazis other people see things differently.You think the author cares what you think about his article? He bothered to type this for fun and to entertain the bored folks perusing the topless robot what a waste of time to try to repress and correct his opinions!!! Keep Up The Good Work Shaun C You Rep TR Well.
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Didn't fuck Leia.
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LOL.. funny good point ( I do accept this as humour) accept the resscue Han from Jabba.. That I think a lot of you are missing the point on both sides.. Lukes idea was never to get everyone caught... Duh! He had a plans and and he had back up plans, just as any good commander would have. I think that Lando infiltrates was part of plan A in which Liea as a bounty Hunter simply walks in and rescues Han. The Droids were part of Plan B. Unfortunatly it was Liea that screwed that up by going all lovey dovey and not just trying to get his butt out of there.. so we go with Plan B. Enter the Jedi.. Well we all know Luke in still not a Jedi Master and his self proclaimed Jedi Knight status may have beena little pre emtive, but then again who was going to argue with him? This is where you can call Luke an idiot.. He didn't quite do all his home work. Like why did he not know Hutts were quite immune to the Jedi mind trick. but if you really want to blam someone for bad intel... try Lando.. (I'm not rracist) but come on how long has he been there and why would he not tell Luke about the Rancor/ Rancor trap...it's pretty obvoius Jabba has used it before since even 3PO tried to warn him he was standing on it. Now we get back to Luke being an idiot. As you all know luke can do some pretty awesome jumping (as seen in Empire in his fight with Vader)so why then did he not just jump out of the way of the trap door? This would have also been an great time to use R@ and his secret compartment. With Jedi rreflex's he should have been able to walk right thru most if not allthe criminal scum.. all but Bobba would have been pretty easy even for a self proclaimed Jedi Knight. I think I have made my point and this should wrpa.. thanks for listening..
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Rule of thumb for the Star Wars Universe: Everybody is a jerk or retard, except Han Solo and Chewbacca. As for the Jabba-plan: It might have been stupid, but it did work out. Maybe it was a special learn-to-be-a-Jedi-task of "Come up with the most convoluted and idiotic plan that still might work".
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Ha ha ha! Great post. (But I'll ignore that "library" comment.) ;-) Everyone knows that Darth Vader was the sexiest character in Star Wars.
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In Luke's defense, he DID get Mara Jade, who's totally badass and hot to boot. Whether he's deserving of her or not is debatable.
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@Mike "I just am not an idiot"? I really hope this was sarcasm, otherwise you've just managed to destroy your own arguement.
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Theres a book out there called starwars and philosophy, go and READ THAT before you MAKE ANOTHER BOREDOM SPAWNED ARTICLE FROM THE LACK OF JUDGEMENT.
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Hillarious.... But the nerdery is actually a bit scary! Not joking. Females will probbaly find this freaky. I have now found a perfectly good reason to never date a nerd, I will just laugh at them and read these funny commentary pages. No offence, just trying to protect myself from the madness here^^ Thank you Topless robot! It's alway funny seeing what happens here. By the way, I am one of your silent female readers.
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I think whoever wrote this is a Moron. The 5 reasons that make Luke an idiot don't make any sense in themselves, You clearly know nothing, and you are retarded. don't comment about things you know nothing about and watch the movie more closely. Don't have to be a fanboy to disagree. I just am not an idiot. Takes an idiot to know one, so thanks, for shedding the light on your personal issues.
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I think the problem with the article is that it's not nerdy enough. The examples given are superficially amusing, but only to someone who doesn't really know the movies. It reads like something written by a non-fan, and this is supposedly a site for nerds. Look at the 5 examples of Luke's supposed stupidity: 5) I've never had a problem with this. Not only is it clear that targeting computers weren't working, the fact is that (as a few people have pointed out) using the force results in the destruction of the Death Star, so it's hard to understand why this proves Luke is an idiot. Also, the moment when Obi-Wan says 'use the force, Luke' is one of the most iconic in the original trilogy, and it seems a bit pointless to be pedantic about it. 4) The whole thing about Luke apparently not listening to Yoda is explained in George Lucas' commentary (as any true Star Wars nerd would know). Ultimately, Yoda was wrong and Luke was right - by abandoning his training and going to rescue his friends, Luke learnt the truth about Vader and eventually redeemed him (Yoda had insisted that Luke wasn't ready for the truth). The underlying message isn't particularly complex (listen to your heart, don't trust authority - remember Lucas was a product of the 60's), but it does work. 3) It's not really clear how much of Han's rescue was planned; it seems more a case of Indy-style making-it-up-as-you-go-along. There's no way Luke knew he'd end up walking the plank over Jabba's pet sand monster, so presumably R2-D2 had his light saber 'just in case'. It actually works fairly well as an example of Luke over-estimating his own abilities (he didn't realise that Jabba was immune to Jedi mind control). 2)Again, this makes perfect sense in the context of the films. Luke would rather die than join the Emperor. This is one of the few aspects of the original trilogy that gains resonance from the (inferior) prequel trilogy, as the prequel trilogy shows how Anakin made the opposite decision. 1)Okay, there is a good point here, which is that the bad guys get the best looking stuff. But it's not particularly original or funny. And Jedis get to be immortal while Sith just end up dead, so rejecting the dark side isn't as stupid as it's made to look in this article. So, this article falls down for (a) not being nerdy enough, and (b) missing the point. For a really funny (and truly nerdy) piss-take of Star Wars, nothing beats the Robot Chicken stuff. They go much deeper into the movies' mythology, and manage to extract a lot more humour in the process.
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This was a trilogy of movies to promote a cartoon voice actor as the lead charactor. I also agree with previous posts that Harrison Ford is,was,& will always be the true star of Star Wars,all the Indiana Jones movies,even the one with Transformers lead actor Shia Labeouf that got mixed reviews,all that happens when Mark Hamill goes to fan coventions, i.m.h.o, is people constantly badger him to voice the Joker as that is his favorite voice acting role,George Lucas should use Mark Hamill's Joker voice in all the clone wars cartoons.
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Neil Whistler said: "You Sir are uninformed... You have saw the movies and have not read the rest of the canon. The Emperor did't die. Luke fell to the darkside, like his father and came back. He also started a Jedi Academy. There so many holes i could punch but your blog is just not worth it. You need to do some serious READING. Before you make statement like that." Not trying to be a dick, but the movies are the only true canon. George Lucas saw to that. There was a well established universe in the novels (and yes I have read a lot) That ol Georgie boy has undone with the prequels. C-3P0 was built by a company called Cybot Galactica...nah I'll have Anakin build him to show what a skilled little turd he is. Boba Fett was a Mandalorian Super Commando named Jaster Mereel before becoming a bounty hunter...Nah I'll make him a doofy little clone kid. I could go on and on, but in his mind the expanded universe stuff is basically fan fiction that gives him a paycheck. If it wasn't in the movies, it didn't happen.
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I am amused by the riled-up responses of guys (and gals, maybe) who are outraged and/or claim the writer is an idiot. Let me spell it out for you whiny little retarded pussies: I.T. I.S. A. H.U.M.O.R. A.R.T.I.C.L.E. F.I.R.S.T. A.N.D. A.N. O.P.I.N.I.O.N. P.I.E.C.E. S.E.C.O.N.D. YOU are the morons putting way too much thought into this. While you sputter and rage at my dissing you by proving I have a better understanding of this article and of yourselves than you have (not that hard I assure you), I will be reading Machiavelli and laughing my ass off at your worthlessness as human beings. tl;dr: I'm better than you fanboy whiners, so shut up. XD
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this is f-ing gay, why does everyone have to be a critic these days? just watch the movie and enjoy, or dont enjoy it. who cares? its just a movie. get a life you momma's boys.
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Jangles is right! Robot Jocks RULEZ!!!! (I've been waiting 23 years on the internets to say that)
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Let's start with - Its obvious that you're an idiot. 5) Trusting the Force to Help Him Blow Up the Death Star * The ENTIRE point of this was to use the force. The Jedi order is a religious order and he had to BELIEVE in the force to use it. Only through channeling it would he succeed. (ALSO - remember? It computer WAS used before by the guy who died! Why in the world would you make the same mistake twice!) 4) Refusing to Listen to the Only Living Jedi in the Galaxy * I'll give you this one...although - he's young. Either you're a 12 year old or you haven't grown up. Most people make mistakes. 3) His Insanely Stupid Plan To Rescue Han Solo from Jabba The Hutt. * It's called strategy. In fact this was PROOF of his skill. He probably used the force to foresee possible problems and then planned for it. 2) Throwing Away His Lightsaber in Front of the Emperor * Again proof of his skill as a Jedi. It was Anakin's CHOICE to join the dark side. Therefore it NEEDED to be Darth Vader's CHOICE to come back from it. 1.) Not joining the Dark Side. I guess you really are stupid so I'll give you a hint. (The bad guys lost---they always do)
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First of all, very funny article, well done! Secondly, to everyone who posted an entire essay arguing that this whole article is retarded, and that the author is equally retarded, please GET A LIFE! There are far more important things to do in life than shouting "OMG SOMEONE MADE A JOKE ABOUT MY FAV FILM!" and spending about half an hour turning that statement into a ridiculously long post. It's funny because you try and make it seem as if you're somehow better than anyone who took this article as a joke (as its meant to be), and you end up sounding like a bunch of raving idiots. If you really want to defend star wars that badly then why don't you go and make you're own website, you can call it www.kissing-george-lucas'-ass.com
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Let's argue about starwars. Yaaaaay! My lightsaber is the biggest of them all!
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wow the poster is an idiot.. all i read was the first part, lol but that was good enough for me.
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Star wars isnt real?
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In short, he's the typical teenager.
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I am glad that people brought up the fact that Luke does to the dark side eventually, but the was only dealing with the movies. So, you all are right. Luke has been more of a gray-sider than any particular side in my opinion.
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LOL, love the Discussion, I have one for you all, the funniest thing i've seen in the trilogy is If you watch Return Of the Jedi, when Darth Vader comes into Emperor palpitines chamber and says a small rebel group has penetrated the sheilds and Landed on endor. and then Palpitine says Yes i Know, And vadar says bla bla bla MY Son is with them, then Vadar get s a Ass chewing from Palpatine about his feeling not being clear. and then after that ass chewing he says to Vadar go wait for him and then bla bla bla he will come to you, and then at the end of that Conversation he says I have forseen it, If he's so damb Powerful why did he give Vadar a ass chewing. and then all of a sudden just change his mind, Like what was said Before I think those to took to maney lightsabers to the head and started to go Insane. Luke was a Dips*^& to throw his lightsaber ob-wan didn't throw his when Count Doukoo, Came at him with lighting, i think his father still would have helped him since the emperor was starting to treat Vadar like crap in Episode 6. OHH Last thing whats the Deal with the Lightsaber Duels In the old Trilogy, I can see OBI-WAN in episode 4 because he was OLD. But luke has no excuse he should have been way quicker than Darth vaders mechanical ass. I think they could have planned out the Fighting a little better.
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ur all nerds
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You're just a stupid jerk with nothing better to do than bash the Grand Master. If you ever meet person with multiple personalities, ask to borrow one, because you need some help, you kriffing moron.
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5. The Deathstar can blow up planets. If I blew up the Earth with thermonuclear force yields in a mass roughly 10,000nm diameter, would the moon, 240,000 miles away survive? No. If I blew up a gas giant the size of 90,000nm Jupiter would Io, 450,000 survive? No. If you have a planetoid something like 60 miles across, would there be more than like 5 TIE fighers in it? Yes. More than '30 fighters' could handle? Yes. Stupidity in the Yavin attack starts a long time before Luke reaches the trench and chooses to use a _laydown_ attack on a _vertical_ target shaft. 'Nuf said. 4. Nothing Luke could ever do, as an individual would change the course of a 50,000,000 world galaxy become an interstellar Empire. NOTHING. If Yoda couldn't do it and Obiwan couldn't do it. Both of whom had five times the power at a point when the Empire was just getting started. It _does not matter_ what Luke does. Added to which, failure to remind him of his father's insanity before Luke engaged in his own is akin was an act unworthy of the most base person, let alone an 'enlightened' Jedi. While worse than this was the assumption that Luke /needed/ all this mumbo jumbo BS nonsense when clearly Yoda knew 'something about' Force Lightning. 3. The raid to recover Solo was stupid on it's face for one reason before all others: Han Solo would be dead (and deservedly so) within five minutes of arriving at Jabba's location (and I sure wouldn't live in a desert rat hole if I had the cash to move elsewhere...). Jabba won't take Fett's word for it. Nor can Jabba, wealthy as he is, -afford- to have Solo be anything but a bloodstain on the wall. So that all of Jabba's underlings-in-good-standing 'get the message'. Screw the Hutt and he'll BURY your ass. Beyond this, Tatooine was not the first example of Luke screwing up but rather the first of three 'sequels' whereby he is allowed to do exactly what Daddy (selfish angst queen) did yet, 'because he is the hero' gets away with totally stupid moves. Luke would not have been able to avoid capture for an instant after hypering into the Bespin system. Not with seven Star Destroyers and something like 300 fighter ALL OVER HIM. Nor would he have been able to do squat against upwards of 50,000 Imperial Troops who could meet him as soon as he stepped off his ship. Vader holding Leia on one knee with the other's secured by a hundred guns would also have "Surrender or she dies!" worked. Bespin was stupid and you would think losing his arm would have taught Luke better. Indeed, Bespin was the chance for Luke to prove how DISCIPLINED he was so that Ep.IV could let him rescue Leia from Imperial Center using Ninja type tactics where it would have actually been unexpected. 2. Is George Lucas secretly gay? If not, then why must Jedi males be effeminized while Jedi _females_ (Jaina Solo butchers her brother while he is all but comatose in a delusional state) get all the glory? Is society -so afraid- of the White Male power symbol that they cannot feel empowered as individuals unless, as a herd, they do unto us that which we have -never- done to them? The reality here is that Luke would never have been more than a moment's distraction to Palpatine or Vader who had a MAJOR BATTLE to plan for. And after it was over, his choices would have come down to 'a bullet or a uniform, you choose'. Since Palpatine could clone his corpse just as readily. OTOH, once Luke commits to 'saving his sister' he cannot stop until the threat is dead and if Anger in achieving that end is so terrible, then why do Yoda, Obiwan and Mace all -successfully- employ that emotion, at need? 1. There are better ways to commit suicide. Play Rambo and make them chase you up hill and down dale /wasting time/ on Endor while the attack commences. This is tactically no different (in outcome) than walking into their arms to surrender BEFORE the strike commences. The problem here is one of complete unrealism in other areas which again would have made it unlikely that Luke's presence mattered, one way or the other. Specifically, Han and Leia would have come into the Shield Generator with an armful of suitcase nukes and at the -slightest hint of trouble- (something a Jedi might actually be useful for predicting?) they would have pulled-pin and smiled as the sky turned bright. Thus the idea that they would ever get CLOSE to the installation, once their shuttle deviated from course, is ridiculous, whether Luke is there or not, the Imperials would never be that stupid. Which brings me to my last point. Vader and Palpatine are all hot and horny over 'The Dork Side'. But what does it ever really bring them? I mean, here they are, stuck in what are basically bureaucratic roles, /minding sheep/ whom they clearly despise. Yet neither of them has the 'Unlimited Power' to just take what they want. Surrender to something that weak for the purposes of being another pencil whipped paper chaser trying to manage a 50 MILLION world Empire 'by hand'? Uhhhh, Gee, No. MPl.
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Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks there's something slightly suspect about the whole "Star Wars" thing.. For example.. Han Solo and Chewbacca.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9xibgxMEc8 And whilst we're at it, the Imperial Stormtroopers.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjMK6mtryVY
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Hey I happen to like Luke Skywalker. He's not perfect nobody is. Give the guy a break.
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yea me again. i just wanted to point out that i am not a fanboy nor have i watched any starwars movie in several years. But notice i still managed to tell HOW MUCH OF A DUMB ASS this guy is.
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i was gonna type a list of why you are wrong in so many ways and that you obviously don't get the plot or didn't pay attention to the movies, but apparently many people already did that so instead of reinstating the same point already made, i will just say this: THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS IS A DUMB ASS.
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LOL! Oh man, that list was hilarious and true. Good job! Especially the RotJ rescue 'plan'. Han was right, Luke has delusions of grandeur.
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Tossing the lightsaber in Jedi was dumb. Sorry guys. It just was. I understand and agree with most of the things people have said to try to defend it. Yeah, on some level he had faith that his father would be redeemed and save him. Sure, he was emphasizing his rejection of the dark side by relieving himself of an instrument of violence. Neither of those things make what he did any less stupid. How much sense does it make to trust you defense against a sith master to a some dude whose ass you've just kicked? Vader was on his ass with no weapon holding the stump of his freshly severed hand barely able to stand up. And as far a emphasis was concerned, he could've spoken more forcefully, made some kind of emphatic gesture with his hand, or anything but toss the weapon. Hell, I believed him when he said it. I'm sure the emperor did too. No matter how much try to dress it up to make it seem meaningful sentimental or noble, it was just stupid.
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5. Trusting the force to blow up the Death Star. Two words: "It worked." enough said. How is he a complete idiot for doing that, especially when the targetting systems had ALREADY proven to be unreliable? 4. He is headstrong exactly like Obi-Wan was when he was younger, and he cares more about his friends than himself. Thats admirable. Its a good point but he isn't a COMPLETE IDIOT for doing that. 3. Luke never intended to get taken to the sarlacc pit, he thought his mind trick would be sufficient, did you not notice how after it failed he decided to take Jabba by force? With a gun? Not idiotic. Miscalculation. 4. Throwing away his lightsaber in front of the Emperor. Man, this is blatantly obvious. He was saying, I'll never turn to the darkside, even if I have to die. Hell, he even said to him right b4 he did it, "I'll never turn to the darkside." "You've failed." 5. Not joinin the darkside? Well, Darth Maul is in two bits, posibly three or 4 depending on the height of that pit, Count Dooku is missing both his hands and his head, Vader is 70% robot, and the Emperor, well, he got his face melted by his own lightning and now he looks like his face has been ironed and tie-dyed. The darkside isnt heaps cooler, because s**t happens when your a Sith. Unless, you know, that is your idea of being heaps cooler than normal
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Funny stuff. My buddy and I (both huge SW fanboys) used to love to laugh and come up with things like that. Yes, you can be a big SW geek who delves deeply into the meanings and themes of the movies and still know funny when you see it. But I have to say that the Victoria's Secret box from L.S.Walker comment was by far the funniest thing I've read in a while.
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Oh my god is there anyone here without acne and virginity, anyone whose mother is not even now calling him up from his basement room to supper, anyone over twenty five without a comic book collection?
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I love how all the morons that digged this insanely stupid list try to defend all its inaccuracies by saying, "um, it's a joke!" What are you, 12? No it's not a joke, YOU'RE an idiot. sure, you would say that it's a joke because you got taken in by this idiot list, and now you're trying to defend your idiotic NON-fact-checking sheep mentality. right, here's why it ISN'T funny SHEEP, it's like writing a list called "WHY JAWS IS AN IDIOT" and putting 5. Jaws is an idiot because remember the time in Jaws when he stood up and walked on the beach? that's just stupid. You know why it ISN'T funny? because it isn't true. Just like this list, it's 5 BAD observations. They're not funny because they have nothing to do with Star Wars. If you took 5 seconds to think about any of them, you'd see why they're not true and therefore not even funny. They should set up a section at Digg for MORONS WHO DIGG ARTICLES. We can put all the bogus Obama and McCain diggs in there that are just as stupid, like the 1500 diggs on articles that were also completely false. I will BET that a lot of the diggs on this article came from brain-dread 12 year olds, and that MOST of the diggs came from those FAKE political accounts at digg. You know, the ones that are normally used to digg up their political agenda, only they need to have other diggs in their list, so they don't look so obviously like fakes, and it's those politicos that dugg this article. It's either that, or a lot of people really ARE incredible morons. And humanity is pretty well much doomed if you people breed. This isn't funny, it's STUPID. Yeah, Top 5 reasons why George Lucas's Indiana Jones is Crap. 5. Remember in Indiana Jones when Count Dracula sucked Smurfette dry and he was prescribed medication by Doctor Who for blue balls? George Lucas didn't do his homework!!! because any doctor would have noticed that the rest of Dracula was blue too. Ha Ha, so funny. See it isn't funny, even if it makes you laugh, because it DIDN'T HAPPEN, it has nothing to do with the actual movie. or it's just poorly thought out. Uhg. What a bunch of sheep defending this moronic list. Galactus has spoken.
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One point many people seem to miss is that Anakin/Vader did bring balance to the force. You had what, a couple hundred Jedi and only two Sith. By the time he cleaned out the pre-school, betrayed Mace, and helped out with any additional Jedi killing duties there were only two Jedi (Yoda and Obi Wan) and two Sith. Yin balanced to Yang. The problem was the arrogance of the Jedi who kept thinking that he was going to kill off the Sith for them.
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The whole legacy of the skywalker family was to provide "Balance" in the force. The jedi were too strong, so we get Darth Vader to counter them. Since the dark side is too powerful they need to be defeated, but since they all die while being defeated, they need a idiot to be the only one left. Sure he's a Jedi, but an ineffective one who makes bad plans and must be rescued by his friends. Dark side is gone. Balance achieved.
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Why couldn't he use both the force and the targeting computer? That's what always got me.
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Wow, number 5 is about as stupid as it gets. Did they suddenly forget the targeting computers FAILED on their first run? Yeah, between a targeting computer and the Force that does all sorts of crazy shit? I'll take the Force.
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5) Trusting the Force to Help Him Blow Up the Death Star I have never really figured out what was so special about Luke using the Force in attacking the first Death Star. As far as I could tell, it did nothing but give Darth Vader a slightly higher level of difficulty in blasting his X-Wing, which he seemed to aptly overcome as he blew up R2-D2, and proceeded to almost blow the crap out of Luke's X-Wing had Han Solo not saved his ass with the Millennium Falcon. Some might say his use of the Force involved him turning off his targeting computer and trusting himself to shoot the exhaust port. If that's using the Force then I am using the Force every time I turn off my cruise control in my car. I mean, they make targeting systems for a reason, Luke—and chances are, the Rebel's would prefer to trust your X-Wing's highly sophisticated on-board computer than a mystical power you spent a few hours learning yesterday afternoon. The Red Leader did try once with the targeting computer perfectly locked on, but it just impacted on the surface (Like a Peter North droppin' loads on his co-star's rump). I'm pretty sure the Rebel ships were equipped with Windows based targeting computers, and cannot be trusted because right when you need them, an error comes up saying something about your Norton Anti-Virus being out of date. 4) Refusing to Listen to the Only Living Jedi in the Galaxy Luke gets a vision of his dead mentor Obi-Wan telling him to go to Dagobah to get training from the Jedi Master, Yoda. Luke obeys, goes out to Dagobah, finds Yoda, and then proceeds to ignore him at every important turn. Yoda tells him not to go into the scary cave with weapons, Luke doesn't listen. Yoda gives him a lesson about overcoming great obstacles, and Luke doesn't take it to heart, can't lift his own X-Wing and gets all pissy. Yoda and the Ghost of Obi-Wan both tell him not to go running off to Bespin to save his friends as he's going to endanger everything they fought for. Luke doesn't listen, goes off to Bespin, helps nobody and gets his damn hand chopped off. Well done, Luke. Why should "Obi-Wan coming back as a ghost to give important instructions" convey any significance to you? Why should not pay attention to the one muppet who knows how to use the Force? You're just a jerk who nearly turned into a Hoth-sicle—you surely know better than both of 'em! Actually, Kermit has been known to throw down a Force-Bang once in a while. 3) His Insanely Stupid Plan To Rescue Han Solo from Jabba The Hutt Let us imagine that Luke Skywalker is trying to tell you his plan to rescue Han Solo from Jabba the Hutt. Luke: "Okay so, first we get Lando Calrissian posing as a guard inside Jabba's Palace." You: "How do we do that?" Luke: "We just get him a costume and he—just walks in." You: "Um, okay, say it's that easy. So then Lando gets Han out of the carbonite and we pick them up and get away?" Luke: "No. What happens next is that I put my lightsaber in a hidden compartment in R2-D2 and send R2-D2 and C3PO to Jabba the Hutt as gifts." You: "Wait, why-" Luke: "Just listen. Next we have Leia pose as a bounty hunter arriving at Jabba's palace with Chewbacca captured. She's going to hand over Chewbacca to Jabba." You: "Wait, why? Wouldn't that mean we would now have to rescue Han Solo, Chewbacca, R2-D2 and C3PO? That just makes it more difficult, right?" Luke: "Just go with me here. Next, Leia is going to sneak around at night and get Han Solo out of the carbonite, but get captured." You: "What? Why would we get everyone captured like that?" Luke: "Now I'll show up, use my Force powers to get in to Jabba's fortress, get past the guards to an audience before Jabba and then use my Jedi mind trick to get Jabba to release everyone. If that doesn't work, then I'll get captured." You: "Okay, if you can just use your Force powers to get in to the palace and all the way to Jabba, then let's just have you go in right now and get Han out." Luke: "No, that's stupid. I'm going to get myself captured. Because then you see, we'll be taken to the sarlacc pit and then, when we're on the skiff, I'll get sent out first and then R2-D2 will manage to get to the top of Jabba's sail barge and shoot out my lightsaber, and then with Lando's help, we'll just—rescue everyone and then everything will be fine!" You: "That is the stupidest plan I've ever heard of." Luke:"I've thought of everything." You: "Clearly you didn't." I believe that this was all Luke's elaborate ploy to get Lea into a skimpy S&M bikini. However, he should have used the Force to look into the future to see that Lea would not age well, and would look like a dried up car shammy, with a voice like Barry White. 2) Throwing Away His Lightsaber in Front of the Emperor So Luke decides not to put his lightsaber through Darth Vader's head once he realizes that he's going along the same dark path as his father. So what does he do next? He tosses away his lightsaber and then proclaims to the Emperor that he is a Jedi. Thus, he has no way to defend himself when the Emperor blasts him with lightning and if it wasn't for his Father saving his butt (please note how many times Luke gets saved by someone else) he would have been a charred piece of Tatooine bacon. Okay, yes, tossing away the lightsaber makes a definitive statement of renouncing Father-killing, but what did he think would happen other than the Emperor kicking his ass? Did Luke think that perhaps he would proclaim "I am a Jedi, like my father before me," and the Emperor would suddenly shout "No! You are the purest good! I am nothing in the presence of your light!" and then fling himself backward into the chasm? Why didn't Luke just try to give the Emperor a big hug and kisses and call him a 'snookle bear.' He's a master of the Dark Side, so of course he's going to kick your ass. Luke was warned not to underestimate the Emperor...so of course, he does exactly that. Yeah, that was kinda lame. John McLean would have had a spare lightsaber hidden in his back pocket. Or he could have summoned a small army of Jedi squirrels. 1) Not Joining the Dark Side No, seriously! Luke gets dumped on his whole life—his adoptive parents get killed, all his friends get injured or killed, the girl he falls in love with turns out to be his sister, his father turns out to be one of the most evil people in the galaxy, his hand gets cut off. Then he gets a chance to co-rule the galaxy. Who wouldn't take that offer at that point? What has Luke had to look forward to after the original trilogy? Mostly trying to start up the whole Jedi Order by himself, which is a ton of work, and watching Han have almost constant sex with Leia. Between that and ruling with Vader, it's not unlike a choice between working in your local library and becoming President. Not really much of a choice there. And ou can comment all you want about the Dark Side being a path to pain and suffering and a loss of humanity, but let's face it—the Dark Side is simply cooler. Members of the Sith have neat custom lightsabers, get to slap everyone around, and just plain look cooler. For Halloween, how many Luke costumes do you see people wearing nowadays? Zero. How many Darth Vader costumes do you see? Still too many to count. Bad is good, baby. Agreed.
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Haha, Luke is a tool.
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It seems to me that it's George Lucas who's the real idiot for foisting this bozo on a impressionable public. If Lucas was a better writer, Luke would have been a more believable hero!
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2) Throwing Away His Lightsaber in Front of the Emperor "Soon, I'll be dead. And you with me." Unlike everyone else, I don't believe Luke's only plan was for Vader to save him. He HOPED he would, certainly, but his backup "plan" was that his friends would destroy the Death Star, thus killing the Emperor. As far as he was concerned, he was dead either way. That said, he's still an idiot: http://starwrongs.ytmnd.com/
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I luv how much the diehard starwars fans flip out in the comments. seriously, u guys sound like republicans. Dark Side forever. peace.
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Shaun, hilarious article! I think it's funnier after reading all the comments with hard core fans shitting bricks!! Keep them coming... Maybe the next one can be "5 reasons C3-PO is a total fag".
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Luke Skywalker First and foremost, i do all of this, 'cause it's in the contract, i should do or go to jail ...and for point 2) The fu%$%ing batteries runout, if you can read lips you can see me whispering verybadwords about it, then have to trick the mummy (also know as the emperor) to use the lightning to recharge mi lintern, for this i throw it, after this i was planning to use it again, once recharged by the lightning, and i have to 'scream' "fatheerrr" in hopes of distract the attention of paltatine to vader, then i can easily get my green lintern (no the hero) to terminate him.
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<i>...and watching Han have almost constant sex with Leia.</I> What?!?!? Han Solo didn't have no sex with Princess Leia in The Star War! (Can't believe no one's said that yet)
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A) How hilarious you are, obviously a bit of a sceptic though and also just for all you guys getting annoyed and the original author... IT'S JUST A DAMN FILM GET OVER IT!!!!!!! genuinely entertaining hearing the debate though some people seem to have all the time in the world, when I'm bored I watch porn ;) !!!
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FYI Typo: Last paragraph, "And ou can comment all you want about the Dark Side being a path to pain and suffering and a loss of humanity..." Thanks for the laugh :D
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Forget Luke. Anyone else think that green chick who dance for Jabba was a hottie? Visit my blog: lordwhatsmymotivation.wordpress.com
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Forget Luke. Anyone else think that green chick who dance for Jabba was a hottie?
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Someone above wrote, <i>"Obviously the original trilogy was made without much thought with regards to the prequel trilogy, so I can excuse a bit of this thought in that regard. Why does Vader keep referring to Obi-Wan when talking to Luke? He says "Obi-Wan has taught you well". Obi-Wan was in direct contact with Luke for what, 2 days, tops? ....Don't you think Vader would at least do some investigating into Luke's life, given he's his son and all?"</i> But the movies made it clear that Luke (and Leia) were hidden from Vader, which would explain why Vader didn't know about Luke's past. From Vader's perspective, he'd have no idea how long Luke trained with Obi-Wan. Same person wrote, <i>"Luke had a spaceship ride and a week in the swamp for training, yet Vader keeps talking like Obi-Wan raised him as his own and trained him in the Jedi ways."</i> As stated in some magazine articles at the time the films were released (1970s, early '80s), Lucas wanted the audience to assume that time had elapsed between films, esp. between Empire and Jedi, if I recall correctly. We were to assume that Luke resumed his Jedi training during those times. I think Luke even promised Yoda during 'Empire' that he would return to resume his Jedi training after he finished his trip to Bespin. To 'The Mayor of Awesometown:' I understand this article was meant in jest, but it doesn't mean people can't use it as a jumping off point to have a more serious discussion. The Shadow wrote: <i>Luke's refusal to kill Vader when he had the chance was by far the dumbest thing he's ever done. Why spare him? Because he's your father? Your "father" ordered the killing of your aunt and uncle, tortured your sister, tried to kill you, mutilated you, skull-raped you, and tried to turn you into the same kind of monster he is. Filial piety only goes so far.</i> I suspect it has something to do with Lucas wanting to inject the concept of forgivness into the storyline. Lucas borrowed heavily from various ancient mythologies, including Christianity, which is, of course, quite strong on the forgiveness aspect. As Jesus was hanging from the cross, He prayed to God the Father regarding the very men who had tortured Him, nailed Him to the cross, and who insulted Him: "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." Jesus did this out of love and because He wanted to reconcile a sinful humanity to a Holy God. The Shadow wrote: <i>"Or maybe Luke spared Vader because Jedi don't kill indiscriminately. That argument would carry more weight if it weren't coming from the guy who blew up the Death Star AND EVERYONE ON IT. Are we supposed to believe everyone on the Death Star was irredeemably evil?"</i> If they were stationed aboard something called 'The Death Star,' do you really think they were warm and fuzzy lugs who collected 'My Little Ponies?' You honestly don't see the difference? This is like liberals who try to equate America's (justified) war on terror to evil acts by actual terrorists (the fundamentalist Muslims). There is no moral equivalence between Americans, the American goverment, the American military and the extremist Muslims who use violence to overthrow the world for Allah. In the same way, there's no moral equivalence between the Rebel Alliance (which includes Luke) and the Empire, and so there's nothing immoral about them trying to put the Death Star out of operation, by whatever means they must. And how else do you expect the Rebel Alliance to accomplish that, may I ask? I would guess the rebels were out-numbered (both in man power and space ships), so if they tried to get aboard the Death Star, they would not have stood a chance. Didn't the Death Star have defensive shields, etc, so that they couldn't just fly up alongside it with their biggest attack ships? How were the rebels to board the Death Star (so that they could more "discriminantly" kill) without being slaughtered first? If they could get aboard the Death Star, how were they to tell the "really" evil guys apart from the "not so evil" guys? Hold trials for them all? (Movie-wise, that would've been impractical, and it would've taken 100+ movies for Lucas to get through all the court cases and defendants - talk about boring entertainment.) Do you seriously think the Death Star crowd would've accepted a "dialog," that is, peaceful talks with the rebels, that they would've had the leaders of the Rebels come aboard to talk out their differences with the Emperor and Vader? If so, you're just as naive as John Kerry and Barack Hussein Obama supporters who think violent, nutty thugs such as Chavez or Ahmadinejad can be reasoned with, appeased, or trusted. You are living in La-La Fantasy Land. Peace is good and is to be strived for, but sometimes you have to use force and war to bring about peace. There are (and were) idiots in the real world, such as Ahmadinejad, fanatical Muslims, and Hitler who do not or did not respect peace and negotiations, and who respond only to force, and who only *respect* force. A group who thinks it's acceptable to murder small children (kids in Jedi training), little Jaws and Ewoks, and humans (Luke's aunt/uncle) would probably fall under the umbrella of 'group that can only be dealth with via violence.'
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If you're looking for plausible reasons for some of Luke's actions from within the story (as opposed to Lucas needing to move the plot forward somehow and offer us drama/excitement): One of the reasons Luke made so many stupid choices is that he was young and therefore was also immature and inexperienced (and impatient). Many people do make stupid, illogical and rash decisions when they're in their teens and 20s. I think in some situations, Luke was thinking with his heart, not his head, as when he defied Yoda (or was it Ben?) and went to Bespin despite their warnings. He was worried about his friends and didn't care if he wasn't quite ready yet to face Vader or other dangers (emotion trumps logic or the wisdom of what adults have to say). As far as not joining the Dark Side, that boils down to ethics and character. Ideally, people will choose to be and do good, which involves hard work: sacrifice (including putting the needs and desires of others before your own), showing mercy, empathy and compassion, and being more concerned with how others are treated, than in being wealthy, famous, or powerful. I think it was a matter of principle that Luke rejected the Dark Side. Sometimes evil and bad can be lame: witness "Chad Vader," Satanists, Neo Nazis, the original Nazis, and Marilyn Manson: all lame! I think Luke actually deserves credit in one instance: before he entered the cave on the Swamp planet, Yoda told him, "You won't need your weapons." However, when Luke ventured into the cave, he was confronted by Darth Vader. I don't know about you, but if I'm going to have to face Vader in any sort of guise or circumstance, I'd want to be equipped with some sort of weapon. By the last film, true, Luke did toss his light sabre aside while he was with the Emperor, which does seem at first glance to be an unwise thing to do, but by this stage, he was trying to win his father over from the Dark Side, which could be done through love / words (propaganda), and not butt-kicking. I think when Luke refused to fight his father any further, that it made an impact, it caused Vader to stop and re-evaluate everything he thought he knew. And hey, it worked: Vader saved his son from the Emperor; his son's love changed him. Love won over power and hate.
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I'd have to say this is a funny list and this is coming from a fanboy of all the movies. I have another one to throw up here into the mix as well. How about in ESB when they're attacking the ATAT's and Luke comes up with this GREAT plan about grappling the legs to bring em down cause the armor is to tough for blasters. He then gives out the order to move into "Attack Pattern Delta" which is essentially fly DIRECTLY AT THEM!!! So what Luke, Plans Alpha, Bravo, and Charlie have already been tried, and this really is the 4th Best Plan we've got? Um, if i'm flying shotgun, I'd suggest to red leader we go around them and hit them from behind cause they CANT fire at us from that direction. That being said, so the plan eventually works, but once these behemoths are on the ground what happens to that armor, does it miraculously turn into paper, cause they fly right over and hit it with a couple of blaster shots and B O O M !!!!! the whole thing blows up. And we can pick apart almost every seen in Return of the Jedi that has look in it, since by then he is a skilled jedi master, he should have used the force at every turn, like on the speeder bike chase, why didnt he just use the force to stop the bikerscouts. Or My 2 cents!!
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I <b>love</b> it! My favorite part of this article is, of course, all the Star Wars fanatics who feel the need to argue against what is obvious internet sarcasm with severe anger and, finally, name-calling. Almost as good as the actual article! Thanks for the entertainment.
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Solo lost out by marrying Princess Leia, Luke dodged a bullet there. Let me tell you, being married to a princess only makes a royal servant of a man. Lets face it: Luke was a little too white bread to make it on the Dark Side. He's heard things: they are inherently violent, uneducated, better at sports than he is, and they have rhythm. He just wouldn't fit in. Look: Luke can't dance, its true, but at least he's not having to run across town every night to pick up some gourmet take-out for Princess Leia only to get harangued upon arrival when the meal is rejected as too spicy or not hot enough... and then resorting to chasing 20-somethings on Facebook for solace. Not that such a thing could happen in real life.
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Not to pick on this particular poster, but this is a preeminent example of dumb humor. It relies on superficial "Who does that? Am I right?" points that actually have ANSWERS for anyone who bothers to think past the scenarios for more than two seconds. People who laugh at these points are stupid. If you laugh and two seconds later you feel guilty, you're on the path to self-improvement.
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Very lame article by someone who didnt pay attention to the movie... 5) he was using the force to 'see' the exhaust port 4) didn't yoda say that luke was restless? he was still a kid who was still learning about the force 3) i think luke assumed rescuing han would be easier than it turned out and that lando, leia, and the droids were 'backups'... so actually he was pretty smart 2) the dark side requires hate to gain power... obviously luke was showing that he would not kill in hate 1) ughh... just like the rest of the article, you're reaching for a joke and never quite reach it
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The true queation is: After discovering that Vader was his biological father; why did Luke not sue for back child support? You know that's what would have really happend. Come to the Dark Side....we have cookies.
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"the Top 5 reasons why the point flies completely over the author's head"
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Luke does not fall in love with Leah. He only plays to like her so Hans Solo will be jealous. In truth, he just sees her as a sister. Be strong. Never give into the dark side.
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I am amazed and amused at how many people think that Luke's throwing away his lightsaber in the Emperor's throne room had anything to do with influencing Darth Vader to rescue him. If you really think that then you totally missed the point of the films. Luke refuses to FIGHT the Emperor BY ANY MEANS, because it's just flat wrong. The mistake the original Jedi made comes from ancient Greek and its called hubris, and it basically means having the damn arrogance to think that anything YOU do can overrule Fate. First off, this is why Yoda doesn't fight anymore. Second, it's why Obi-Wan says "There are alternatives to fighting" and then lets Vader strike him down. And finally, when Luke tosses his saber, he REDEEMS Vader (and the entire Jedi order) by inviting the Emperor to kill them both. This is pure Gandhi: You can kill me, but you can't coerce me. The paradox of Vader's intervention is that he finally realizes that Luke must be saved because Luke just made the heroic choice, and yet that intervention requires that someone take down the Emperor. For Luke to do it would invalidate his redemptive choice, and so Vader steps in and shoulders the burden because, as he told Luke earlier, "It is too late for me" anyway. You can't apply consequentialism to Luke's action. He doesn't do X to bring about Y, he does X because it's right, regardless of the consequences. (Funny post btw, totally sarcastic, I assume.)
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did not read all the comments---but the reason Luke did dumbass things is because he is a TEENAGER who think he knows everything and the world is all about him...same as Anakin....besides R2D2 is the true hero of the movies..almost every time lives are at stake..the R2 unit comes through
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Hilarious, both the article and the comments. I'm not a fangirl, but my husband has repeatedly pointed out that the entire existence of Tatooine is a case of idiocy. As he notes, once you become dark lord of the galaxy, why not just blow up the s**t-hole planet that is a complete dump and that gives you nothing but bad memories? It's not like the universe NEEDS a planet like Tatooine anyway. And why on earth did anyone, much less Jedis, think "We have totally got to hide this kid from his dad at all costs. We have all the known universe at our disposal....eh, let's just drop the rug rat off on dad's home world and forget about it. He'll never look there."? Really, how stupid ARE Jedis?
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Well done! oh I needed that laugh...
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Star Wars is not all about Luke Skywalker and how he saved the galaxy. The movies revolve around Anakin/Darth Vader. Anakin is the only main character who has a large part in every movie. The movies follow Anakin from his childhood, to his becoming a jedi, to his fall from grace, to his redemption and eventual death. It is not Luke who brings balance to the force and saves the galaxy, it is Anakin, just as the prophecy foretold. Who was it that killed the Emperor, and brought balance to the force. Anakin.
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@JVance: VICTORIA'S SECRET TATOOINE!!! Funniest Thing I have read in some time, mah man!!!
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